View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
PennyJ
05-04-2018, 04:40 PM
So I got my money sent to paxum, I added my bank account awhile ago in the UK ready, but when I go into withdraw and then wire and select my bank account that I added, the amount turns to zero and it won't allow me to. Am I using it right? I'm lost, thanks
BadBitch
05-04-2018, 07:12 PM
Goldshows have never been my forte. A "member" last night said that he didnt join bc he didnt see the show happening and that i never have a issue getting gold.
First of all dumb mfr.. if you wouldve tipped, you wouldve helped
second of all dumb mfr... i never hit goal
third off dumb mfr...
This is a psych method to make a model want to log off and cry but not me bc I NEVER GAVE ONE SHIT ABOUT GS.
rant over lol
I fucking HATE when they say that!!!!
BadBitch
05-04-2018, 07:25 PM
The exact same issue with video, it was my hitachi or a fan. two vids rejected
Last month I changed my age from 41 to 36. not a huge spike.
My age never affected my placement that I am aware of.
It was my money tanking and time NOT online that fucked w me.
But, when I scored my whale, I was NEVER on. My hours sucked. I was still first or first row cause I was banking.
Now? I think SM is changing placement putting younger and new girls on top.
I'm working more hours and making almost as much with that whale. My placement now is middle of the first page.
I don't think hours matter.
JackAlexander
05-04-2018, 09:46 PM
I am on the third page now with my new account and its an absolute nightmare. My other acct had some kind of preferred placement and I am too bad at this job to organically earn my placement back.
If it keeps up this way I might activate my old account again. I have NO IDEA how to cam on the third page.
Did you get your favs transferred? I found contacting my good regs and being a tad elusive made them jump all over me quick and thus, increase in earning put me back to the top of page one. I do not know how that works out with the new algorithm though.
Erika_Xstacy
05-04-2018, 10:11 PM
But, when I scored my whale, I was NEVER on. My hours sucked. I was still first or first row cause I was banking.
Now? I think SM is changing placement putting younger and new girls on top.
I'm working more hours and making almost as much with that whale. My placement now is middle of the first page.
I don't think hours matter.
I work 7 days weekly
My favs go up or hover the same and my placement remains or goes up. Not by much and its usually bc a model isn't working.
If I miss a day or two, my favs go down, my pl goes down and its noticable lol
My earnings do not go down
I crunch my earnings into 5 days
but got bumped and the only thing that got bumped was favs and I didnt work. that is what brings up suspicion.
this happens every time I do not cam
ETA I agree abt younger and new girls. A model use to have to work her way up.
SweetJuliaXXX
05-05-2018, 01:36 PM
Ok so I'm coming back to SM next week, has anything dealbreakingly bad happened? Besides the usual glitches and payment issues and genius customers?
StellaPurr
05-05-2018, 07:38 PM
I do notice more often that newer young girls get put in the top but I'm not unsure if they stay there for long? I find placement of ppl jumps around a lot more since the new algorithm
Lovely_charlie
05-06-2018, 02:24 AM
I do notice more often that newer young girls get put in the top but I'm not unsure if they stay there for long? I find placement of ppl jumps around a lot more since the new algorithm
I believe every new model gets a top spot for 24 hours now, thats what liz told me ones
pussyhoe
05-06-2018, 05:23 PM
Goldshows have never been my forte. A "member" last night said that he didnt join bc he didnt see the show happening and that i never have a issue getting gold.
First of all dumb mfr.. if you wouldve tipped, you wouldve helped
second of all dumb mfr... i never hit goal
third off dumb mfr...
This is a psych method to make a model want to log off and cry but not me bc I NEVER GAVE ONE SHIT ABOUT GS.
rant over lol
THIS!!!!! saaaaame!!!!
Erika_Xstacy
05-06-2018, 06:58 PM
didnt work 2 days and dropped over 40 favorites.
it must be just me that notices this fuckery
*Being online lets you be seen, pick up more favorites, get rated more often, and build up a crowd, all of which can have an effect on your placement!*
I read between the lines
JackAlexander
05-06-2018, 07:56 PM
didnt work 2 days and dropped over 40 favorites.
it must be just me that notices this fuckery
*Being online lets you be seen, pick up more favorites, get rated more often, and build up a crowd, all of which can have an effect on your placement!*
I read between the lines
Your first post on this had me thinking the exact same thing....!!!!
oCURIOUSo
05-07-2018, 09:45 AM
didnt work 2 days and dropped over 40 favorites.
it must be just me that notices this fuckery
*Being online lets you be seen, pick up more favorites, get rated more often, and build up a crowd, all of which can have an effect on your placement!*
I read between the lines
It's definitely not just you. I track my numbers really closely on SM, and over the past year or so, I've seen favorites drop, and it's almost always related to hours online, for me anyway. My placement always takes a nasty hit when I don't work full time too.
euro_princess
05-07-2018, 10:09 AM
I wouldn't say we lose favorites because of placement or other related things, but more because people delete/inactivate accounts or SM bans some of them. I had to report some regulars for pushing me with escorting, so those will definitely be blocked by the website and not show up in my favs anymore. When you look at favorites it says "active members". We don't notice it when we stream, because we gain others and it's still on plus for that day.
Erika_Xstacy
05-07-2018, 08:33 PM
we lose favs for not working.
I dropped over 40
last night I gained 20 working
When I cam regular, i get a few new favs here and there.
loss when camming? its never more than 2.
I was given the excuse about wl or custi accounts closing and I would believe it if it did not happen only on the days I do not work.
I can almost tell you when the system updates daily.
ETA its the amount that annoys me. This never happened before
euro_princess
05-07-2018, 11:10 PM
For me it's definitely not an excuse, because most of the time I wonder why I get so little favs, even if I am online some good hours and spam them to favorite me. I mean, there is no way I get only 40-50 new people per day, considering I run a lot of gold shows and I lose around 70-100 when I'm not online. So probably, I gain 150 and lose another 100, and there is the difference I notice.
I was gone for 3 months. I lost 4K of favorites.
Erika_Xstacy
05-07-2018, 11:39 PM
running gold shows quickly ups the fav count.
GS are my go to when it’s slow and the favorite count goes up
I don’t see the spike up or down when logging on and doing privates.
Asking is pointless, I can have 10 guys say they favorited me BUT on my end I don’t see it.
I feel like the”hearts” are equivalent to MFC scores. Just my thought.
Lol holding strong at 300 on mfc :D
SuperPookie
05-08-2018, 07:23 AM
I definitely lose favorites even if I only take a day off. The more days off, the more favorites I lose. I'm going to be gone most of next month and I'm scared that I'll come back with like 500 and on page 30
Erika_Xstacy
05-08-2018, 08:10 PM
Im glad that you guys see this as well. I never watched my numbers pre fuck the world mode.
last summer when picking back up and aiming to beat every number is when I noticed.i thought it was a "glitch"
Violet_Z
05-09-2018, 08:25 AM
Honestly I think the placement system has some pretty clear errors. However, I'm starting to think it doesn't matter a lot for streamates because the fav system so your guys see you when you are online. I've been constantly on the 3rd page but am still getting good traffic.
Hopefully today when I get online there is more money to be made on streamates. The money was dismal yesterday.
Erika_Xstacy
05-09-2018, 12:36 PM
im never giving you money ever . thats the last time you get my money and run . i do not care if its 3 dollars or 50 dollars . when you say 3.00 for seven mins in your show i want my seven mins . not model will be back or shows over before i even see you live . by by BARTMAN
This dude spent 3.00 and missed the show or maybe he was in the show and got booted.
I understand 3.00 is a huge thing to guys that are blue collar workers. I get upset when I have lost 3.00.
By the look of his email, he was so mad abt 3.00 that he couldn't spell and left a open door for a spellcheck from me of all people.
My grammar and punctuation sucks coming from a English and political family. My grandmother would spank our hands with a paddle if we used the word "ain't":P AFTER she passed in the 80s, the word "aint" was finally added to webster's. ;D
Generally I would not correct someone bc I suck too but it's fun when I do. ::)
Besides the favs getting on my nerves I am having issues online.
not showing online when I am online but it eventually will fix itself.
I notice when I am offline, I am still online.
I check different browsers and it says model is offline but still has me on the page with online models.
I was guided to the new support tool on the site. I have done this twice. I have not received a reply.
What would be helpful is to send a confirmation email to the model saying the report is in que and will be answered within 24 hours or 3 months lol :P
Has anyone used this tool with success?
Violet_Z
05-09-2018, 05:33 PM
I have used the support tool only to get emails that only tell me things I have already read on the F.A.Q...
I tend to keep emailing them screen shots and stuff.
I hope they fix your issue soon.
tropo
05-10-2018, 01:31 AM
I have used the support tool only to get emails that only tell me things I have already read on the F.A.Q...
I tend to keep emailing them screen shots and stuff.
I hope they fix your issue soon.
Yes.. it's like a computer generated reply that hasn't actually been read. Even then you may have to wait days for the useless reply. Their customer service is the pits... and they're taking 70%!
It's going to happen. SM will have to start being more model-friendly as models get up and leave. They've had a good run, but it's definitely going downhill fast.
IvyRose
05-10-2018, 01:55 AM
glitchhell this thursday, hope that sm will be back to awesome soon!
Horny
05-10-2018, 03:15 AM
One hour 0 across four sites come on pervs
BiancaNorwood
05-10-2018, 02:38 PM
im never giving you money ever . thats the last time you get my money and run . i do not care if its 3 dollars or 50 dollars . when you say 3.00 for seven mins in your show i want my seven mins . not model will be back or shows over before i even see you live . by by BARTMAN
This dude spent 3.00 and missed the show or maybe he was in the show and got booted.
I understand 3.00 is a huge thing to guys that are blue collar workers. I get upset when I have lost 3.00.
By the look of his email, he was so mad abt 3.00 that he couldn't spell and left a open door for a spellcheck from me of all people.
My grammar and punctuation sucks coming from a English and political family. My grandmother would spank our hands with a paddle if we used the word "ain't":P AFTER she passed in the 80s, the word "aint" was finally added to webster's. ;D
Generally I would not correct someone bc I suck too but it's fun when I do. ::)
Besides the favs getting on my nerves I am having issues online.
not showing online when I am online but it eventually will fix itself.
I notice when I am offline, I am still online.
I check different browsers and it says model is offline but still has me on the page with online models.
I was guided to the new support tool on the site. I have done this twice. I have not received a reply.
What would be helpful is to send a confirmation email to the model saying the report is in que and will be answered within 24 hours or 3 months lol :P
Has anyone used this tool with success?
I am the worst when it comes to checking people's grammar! Hahahaha! I SO get it, lady!
Violet_Z
05-10-2018, 06:54 PM
What is up with the streamates encoder? It doesn't matter how low I turn the settings the sound and video keep getting out of sync. I've never had this happen before but its like all day yesterday...
xoprincessremy
05-14-2018, 09:44 AM
What is going on today? I can't find myself at all.
I also see men on the first page? wtf.
It wasn't like this a few hours ago!
anonamiss
05-14-2018, 10:01 AM
I blocked a guy yesterday who almost immediately returned with a new account under the same name. I didn't wanna give him attention so I just blocked him again. He came back yet again super fast under a new name saying "hey its X, why you blocking me? I thought we were friends?" And I told him to fuck off and blocked his third account. He didn't seem to return after that. But I reported it to tech support with a bunch of his info (his three usernames and user ID #s) because it's ridiculous that guys are apparently able to make new accounts so fast. Hopefully that's not typical. The whole point of blocking someone is so they won't return... Not just come back and harass me under a new account. Ugh.
BlueBunny
05-14-2018, 12:02 PM
He probably had that many different credit cards to sign up with. SM member account requires a credit card number upon creation.
euro_princess
05-14-2018, 02:42 PM
He was probably a hacker. Had same issue with a dude yesterday. Blocked 4 accounts and reported him to SM. Two of them were something with "delta".
Violet_Z
05-14-2018, 02:47 PM
Yeah the dudes just sign up with all their credit cards and harras models.
JasmineLove
05-14-2018, 07:15 PM
Anyone else having issues with a broadcast tonight ?
xoprincessremy
05-15-2018, 03:36 AM
is anyone else STILL having placement issues? I'm anxious. I can't find myself anywhere on the site.
h0ttie
05-15-2018, 07:03 PM
^ my placement is all over the place. i think if you cant find yourself u are probably jumping around pages as u go thru them. try searching for a tag you have and see if you can find yourself that way, and then you will be able to keep checking if ur placement is moving all over
Marina Starr
05-16-2018, 10:31 AM
If your placement is all over the place, message support and ask them to look into it.
They can create a ticket and tech team can tell you what the issues are.
BadBitch
05-17-2018, 05:51 AM
Yesterday was one of the absolute worst days on the site. There were glitches and I stayed on for about 10 hours. I walked away with pennies practically.
This site is killing my self-esteem and causing me so much self-doubt. I am starting to think about leaving this industry for my own mental well-being.
tropo
05-17-2018, 06:13 AM
Yesterday was one of the absolute worst days on the site. There were glitches and I stayed on for about 10 hours. I walked away with pennies practically.
This site is killing my self-esteem and causing me so much self-doubt. I am starting to think about leaving this industry for my own mental well-being.
Are you only on one site? I couldn't make a living on just one site, but combined I manage. Any site can be totally dead on any particular day, but there's more change of making it if you have options. I only the 30% on SM, which doesn't help, but my other sites pay 50%.
BadBitch
05-17-2018, 07:12 AM
Are you only on one site? I couldn't make a living on just one site, but combined I manage. Any site can be totally dead on any particular day, but there's more change of making it if you have options. I only the 30% on SM, which doesn't help, but my other sites pay 50%.
Nope. On several sites - other sites where I'm not live on cam (which is refreshing for me). Having guys on SM just come and go in and out all day long is exhausting.
tropo
05-17-2018, 07:30 AM
Nope. On several sites - other sites where I'm not live on cam (which is refreshing for me). Having guys on SM just come and go in and out all day long is exhausting.
I really meant other sites live at the same time. I'm live on 4 at the same time. When you have other sites to focus on, guys coming and going on SM won't concern you as much. SM may be good one day - another site the next. It all evens out over the week. There's another benefit too. If guys on any particular site see you're not constantly on (when you have private on other sites), they could be more likely to grab you for private when you are, rather than take it for granted that you're always there anyway.
BadBitch
05-17-2018, 06:35 PM
I really meant other sites live at the same time. I'm live on 4 at the same time. When you have other sites to focus on, guys coming and going on SM won't concern you as much. SM may be good one day - another site the next. It all evens out over the week. There's another benefit too. If guys on any particular site see you're not constantly on (when you have private on other sites), they could be more likely to grab you for private when you are, rather than take it for granted that you're always there anyway.
Girl, SM's software doesn't allow for us to stream on other sites unless I have 4 different computers running. I used to do 2 live sites together before SM changed.
I was taking breaks here and there from December. I wasn't on as much. They still pop in and leave.
Sigh.
Thank you for your suggestions! :)
xcamillemoonx
05-17-2018, 07:45 PM
I'm not showing up in any of my categories, my tags or even a search for my name on streamate right now. Clearly I'm showing up somehow as guys do keep coming in and out but I don't really know how. Has anyone ever had this happen?
Girl, SM's software doesn't allow for us to stream on other sites unless I have 4 different computers running. I used to do 2 live sites together before SM changed.
I was taking breaks here and there from December. I wasn't on as much. They still pop in and leave.
Sigh.
Thank you for your suggestions! :)
Technically is possible, depends what software u use, SM Broadcast wont let u splitcam but there are other encoders, alot of models splitcam.
SM does not encourage us to splitcam and share the same feed on other sites.
I for myself dont split anymore since many years now, i dont like or find other sites lucrative plus i am working with an I5 desktop pc that is not allowing me to split at best parameters anymore so i work SM only.
Not worth to invest in a last generation I7, i wont make more money with it.
I can see why u dont want to make things complicated, keep them simple as they fit ur needs, i do the same :)
Cheers! xx
ETA: SM is fucking with my mind too but i resist ;)
tropo
05-17-2018, 11:42 PM
Girl, SM's software doesn't allow for us to stream on other sites unless I have 4 different computers running. I used to do 2 live sites together before SM changed.
I was taking breaks here and there from December. I wasn't on as much. They still pop in and leave.
Sigh.
Thank you for your suggestions! :)
I don't use the encoder, just the web interface. I was doing 5 sites live last year on one computer (2 screens), but AW ending up blocking my country, so now it's a more relaxing 4. I did try the SM encoder once with a seperate computer, but with 4 - 5 chat windows open, having 2 webcams positioned differently was too much to handle. I even experimented with a mouse that worked across 2 computers... It's complicated as I have to close 4 sites down when I get privates. You have to be quick, besides, I'm not going to dedicate so much computer resources or bandwidth for a site that only pays me 30%. It's my least favourite site of the ones I stream on. Judging on all the complaints I've seen here about the encoder, I'm happy to have nothing to do with it. I seldom have any problems with the regular browser interface. I treat SM as supplementary income, not the main source.
SexyKim
05-21-2018, 05:58 AM
I have just done my internet speed check and I am coming from the UK, I have had just a new wireless isp which is supposed to be the best!!
My download speed was 17.04 mbps and upload speed was 5.06 mbps. Pings 283 ms.
Does that mean I can provide HD Quality Webcam shows?
xx
Marina Starr
05-21-2018, 06:19 AM
Yes, you can use Streamate Broadcast for HD. You only need 2.5 upload.
I have just done my internet speed check and I am coming from the UK, I have had just a new wireless isp which is supposed to be the best!!
My download speed was 17.04 mbps and upload speed was 5.06 mbps. Pings 283 ms.
Does that mean I can provide HD Quality Webcam shows?
xx
tropo
05-21-2018, 09:33 AM
I have just done my internet speed check and I am coming from the UK, I have had just a new wireless isp which is supposed to be the best!!
My download speed was 17.04 mbps and upload speed was 5.06 mbps. Pings 283 ms.
Does that mean I can provide HD Quality Webcam shows?
xx
SM have a strang grading system under their "rankings". They grade ping into poor, average, good and excellent. I suppose they don't understand that ping is related to distance from server and cannot be improved beyong a certain number.
KatyBoleyn
05-21-2018, 10:09 AM
SM have a strang grading system under their "rankings". They grade ping into poor, average, good and excellent. I suppose they don't understand that ping is related to distance from server and cannot be improved beyong a certain number.
The biggest thing you can do to improve your ping consistency is to cut out as many "middle men" in your internet connection as possible, most especially anything that goes via radio waves (wifi). You can test and get a good ping, and test 30 seconds later and get a wildly different ping if you have a setup that isn't consistent. A steady flow of data is key to your streaming quality. Usually when they do ping calculations its an average of 4 tests done a few seconds apart. Symptoms of poor connection quality are complete freezes, either when trying to connect to the server or during your stream. In our tech support experience, 99% of the time its due to using wifi.
Wifi is NOT consistent due to the use of radio waves. Anything from running household appliances nearby (microwave, vacuum cleaner, etc) to sun spots to having too much absorbance nearby (walls, doors, blankets, etc) can dilute or mitigate your signal. Normally you don't notice due to buffering functions in your download streaming (like when you watch Youtube or Netflix) or web pages loading in bursts, but if you're broadcasting you need that steady up-stream. Wifi cannot provide that consistency minute to minute or day to day.
This same thing holds for your bandwidth. 2.5mb upload is a good number, but depending on your setup can be very misleading. That 2.5 can be a stream, or it can be in timed bursts or packets. For a good stream, ideally, you want a cushion of 100 to 200%, or around 5 to 7.5mb minimum. This means even in bursts, there's enough bandwidth to deliver a steady stream. Symptoms of laggy bandwidth is when your sound slowly de-syncs or you lose frames and appear choppy.
AuroraJade
05-21-2018, 11:24 AM
SM have a strang grading system under their "rankings". They grade ping into poor, average, good and excellent. I suppose they don't understand that ping is related to distance from server and cannot be improved beyong a certain number.
I live in Western Europe and my RTT is now always excellent. I recently upgraded my internet to 500/500.
tropo
05-21-2018, 12:22 PM
I live in Western Europe and my RTT is now always excellent. I recently upgraded my internet to 500/500.
It should be because you're pretty close to US servers, with huge pipes available across the North Atlantic... but no matter how fast your connection is, RTT is still governed by the distance to the server. All you can do is get as close as possible to your theoretical limit.
The best score I get to SM servers is just above 400ms, because that's from Asia. All my traffic does a loop through Singapore. We can only dream of 500/500mbps here. I pay big money (about $200 a month) for 100/50... which is upper end for my area.
Serena-Shields
05-21-2018, 01:55 PM
Has anyone noticed a BIG increase in ''will u meet me bb'' guys since the whole fosta/sesta thing? I swear I get them significantly more now.