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Marina Starr
05-21-2018, 02:40 PM
I wish Streamate would for once and for all fix these fucking 'dick errors' so my shows would last long.

DahliaSimone
05-21-2018, 03:33 PM
God for-fucknig-bid that I actually be able to stream a smooth broadcast. So many regs came and went today because my broadcast was shit. So, the usual. Guess I'm gonna start the week off not making my goal, thanks SM, you fucking suck.

kamiliam
05-21-2018, 04:23 PM
Has anyone noticed a BIG increase in ''will u meet me bb'' guys since the whole fosta/sesta thing? I swear I get them significantly more now.

yes which I think for some can be attributed to being cut off from bp/cl but I think a lot of them are other models trying to "catch" you

BadBitch
05-21-2018, 04:36 PM
I wish Streamate would for once and for all fix these fucking 'dick errors' so my shows would last long.

Had a few people try and take me excl for it to say "User Connection Issue" in the show. FML.

Marina Starr
05-21-2018, 05:11 PM
By 'dick errors' I mean cam to cam. Guys would take me private for a few minutes then leave if cam doesn't work. I know they would have stayed longer if it was working. I also want to see the dick. Shorter shows and no dick? Fuck ya, I'm annoyed!


Had a few people try and take me excl for it to say "User Connection Issue" in the show. FML.

Bananabunny
05-21-2018, 07:31 PM
I now applied for a check via regular mail on Streamate. I have never done a check!! So I'm very stressed out. I also heard they can go lost?? I still applied for one cuz my bills are due and idk how to get my money anymore...My parents start to question me like Where's your money at?? well that's a good question, since FCP shut down for SWs it's been hard for many of us anyways.

Does someone know how to get the money out of the check?? At the local bank or...? Cuz I have 0 ideas how this works!!

Erika_Xstacy
05-21-2018, 07:53 PM
I now applied for a check via regular mail on Streamate. I have never done a check!! So I'm very stressed out. I also heard they can go lost?? I still applied for one cuz my bills are due and idk how to get my money anymore...My parents start to question me like Where's your money at?? well that's a good question, since FCP shut down for SWs it's been hard for many of us anyways.

Does someone know how to get the money out of the check?? At the local bank or...? Cuz I have 0 ideas how this works!!

The checks are from a wellsfargo account.
you can cash them there. i think there is a 5.00 fee if you're not a member

I deposit mine the same day of receiving it and instant credit, never had a issue with one lost. I had them show up 1-2 days late bc of holidays but never lost in the mail.

I have received checks from sm since day 1, I never switched my WL to transfer to my bank and they have been on time. When I move, i have sm hold it.

it sucks we had switch back but then again I always thought in the back of my head that once it leaves streamate they are no longer responsible unless it is a check. We can get new ones by waiting 30days or paying a reissue fee
luckily some of us dodged that bullet from FC closing by one day.

SoloDesire
05-22-2018, 06:36 AM
I now applied for a check via regular mail on Streamate. I have never done a check!! So I'm very stressed out. I also heard they can go lost?? I still applied for one cuz my bills are due and idk how to get my money anymore...My parents start to question me like Where's your money at?? well that's a good question, since FCP shut down for SWs it's been hard for many of us anyways.

Does someone know how to get the money out of the check?? At the local bank or...? Cuz I have 0 ideas how this works!!

I got checks when I first started and am now getting them again since First Choice shut down. I've never had any problems with receiving my checks. I have an account at my local bank and just deposit them there.

Marina Starr
05-22-2018, 06:48 AM
I love checks. I deposit checks on my phone, no problems.

I got checks when I first started and am now getting them again since First Choice shut down. I've never had any problems with receiving my checks. I have an account at my local bank and just deposit them there.

KatM
05-22-2018, 07:43 AM
I now applied for a check via regular mail on Streamate. I have never done a check!! So I'm very stressed out. I also heard they can go lost?? I still applied for one cuz my bills are due and idk how to get my money anymore...My parents start to question me like Where's your money at?? well that's a good question, since FCP shut down for SWs it's been hard for many of us anyways.

Does someone know how to get the money out of the check?? At the local bank or...? Cuz I have 0 ideas how this works!!

I see u are in europe too, u should mention ur location when asking about paying options cause american girls have it easier with checks.
U'll have to deposit the check to a bank where u need an account in US dollars, it can take up to 45 days for the check to clear so u get ur money and u'll pay a comission as processing fees also plus the taxes for having a bank account; this depends a lot on the country u are from but here in eastern europe in my country that's the procedure.
I cant deal with checks, too much hassle and veeery inconvenient, thanks god SM offers us Cosmo pay, have u looked into Cosmo? It's similar to First Choice.

euro_princess
05-22-2018, 08:38 AM
Checks are a pain in the ass for Eastern Europe. Some banks don't even accept them and if they do, it take a few good weeks to receive the money.
Maybe Cosmo or EFT transfer from Paxum into your local account would be better. Keep in mind that takes around 10 days to receive the Paxum money.

KatM
05-22-2018, 08:51 AM
^^^ Most banks refuse them yes, forgot to mention. I dont even know if they'll accept them at all now a days cause i dont think models in this region opted for checks anymore since electronic payment was introduced on SM (and other sites). Checks are mainly used by american girls from what i know.

Bananabunny
05-22-2018, 02:24 PM
I see u are in europe too, u should mention ur location when asking about paying options cause american girls have it easier with checks.
U'll have to deposit the check to a bank where u need an account in US dollars, it can take up to 45 days for the check to clear so u get ur money and u'll pay a comission as processing fees also plus the taxes for having a bank account; this depends a lot on the country u are from but here in eastern europe in my country that's the procedure.
I cant deal with checks, too much hassle and veeery inconvenient, thanks god SM offers us Cosmo pay, have u looked into Cosmo? It's similar to First Choice.

I'm not sure if Cosmo Pay is available for Switzerland as it isn't available for many countries and I was looking into it but couldn't find my country, not sure if it is or isn't available for my country after all...

DahliaSimone
05-22-2018, 03:43 PM
As if traffic werent bad enough this week, theres a contest coming Sunday-Tuesday.....so glad im gonna be out of town for that one so i have an excuse to not sit online staring at myself for 6 hours a day through that shit.

KatM
05-22-2018, 05:34 PM
I'm not sure if Cosmo Pay is available for Switzerland as it isn't available for many countries and I was looking into it but couldn't find my country, not sure if it is or isn't available for my country after all...

I think i seen ur country on the list but cant see the list anymore as my account is approved already and they dont list the countries anywhere for me to see.
When u try to register with them it says its available for european countries part of the EEA, go ahead and see if they have ur country on the list.

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anonamiss
05-22-2018, 11:15 PM
wow, wherever SM is getting their traffic tonight is douchebag central... just a massive influx of illiterate horny morons. plus new guys who are cheap as fuck. i had multiple dudes questioning why they should spend any money on me; it was like they were dangling a fucking single dollar bill in front of my face and trying to get me to do a trick for it or something.

fuck this. i'm out. making clips instead. >_<

tropo
05-23-2018, 02:33 AM
As if traffic werent bad enough this week, theres a contest coming Sunday-Tuesday.....so glad im gonna be out of town for that one so i have an excuse to not sit online staring at myself for 6 hours a day through that shit.

Incredible. A 3-day contest with prizes totalling $47,500. They seem to have a lot of money to waste.

Glamourmilf
05-23-2018, 07:12 AM
As if traffic werent bad enough this week, theres a contest coming Sunday-Tuesday.....so glad im gonna be out of town for that one so i have an excuse to not sit online staring at myself for 6 hours a day through that shit.

I'm happy that you're going out of town for this shit show of a weekend coming up.
Memorial Day has always been my slowest time in all 7 years of working it.
I have no idea where all the shitty freeloaders come from during this holiday.
The only thing that makes it good, is that it mentally prepares me for the summer slowdown that immediately follows it.
* Speaking for only myself in the above statements, because I'm sure summer is the best time for others to cam.

SuperPookie
05-23-2018, 07:15 AM
Incredible. A 3-day contest with prizes totalling $47,500. They seem to have a lot of money to waste.

That's effing insane. That much money could go a long ways towards fixing the technical issues. At this point I think they're just letting the site die without even making an effort

euro_princess
05-23-2018, 08:48 AM
Contests are a mask for working at the website. They usually implement and test things during that time, while girls hustle even if it's full of errors. Win win. This weekend is a free day, maybe more customers, maybe more part time vanilla working models.
I'm sure 50K is nothing for them, dust in the wind, probably money customers spend on 5-6 good models in a week. Plus, contest means is going to be more than an average week, so might seem a lot of money for us, but they take 65-70% of what we do.
They are a company, they keep stats, they have a manager for that department (I can bet), employees that check for frauds and analyze the profitability. If contests wouldn't bring profits, they wouldn't run them so often.
I'm at the point where I don't blame SM that much anymore. It's a lot of hard work to bring updates again and again, now they are working on SMConnect, the tip vibe option, mobile version, more payment ideas and God know what's extra. Losing money it's not easy, let's remember again they lose more than us.

DahliaSimone
05-23-2018, 08:53 AM
I wish SM would catch tf up and offer Direct Deposit. Its Wed. and my check hasn't come when its 99% of the time here on Monday, full on stressing me out bc im going out of town for a mini vacay this weekend and that's my vacay money.

KatM
05-23-2018, 08:30 PM
As soon as a contest is announced the traffic disappears, my room is simply dead!
Before, during and after a contest i have no traffic anymore and struggle soo much to make money.
I am tired of this up and down roller coaster SM! :((((

BadBitch
05-24-2018, 06:20 AM
Oh, then SM gives "test tip vibes" to their favorite models to try. I love when SM plays favorites. They can ram their tip vibe and ugly gold chain up their asses.

AuroraJade
05-24-2018, 06:31 AM
They always do this, only top earners and some other models who kiss their asses get this stuff. They also send out hand written thank you cards to their top earners. Like thank you, but no thanks to everybody else who works hard on the site.

pussyhoe
05-24-2018, 09:47 AM
They always do this, only top earners and some other models who kiss their asses get this stuff. They also send out hand written thank you cards to their top earners. Like thank you, but no thanks to everybody else who works hard on the site.

it’ll always be that way because they (as well as all other industries) have to keep their top earners happy. the “average” earner is simply a bottom feeder in their eyes. adult as well as any other industry is more than likely a revolving door so when 1 leaves 10 more newer, younger and bright eyed “girl next doors” sign up in hopes of popularity, riches and diamonds. but the top top, elite, power players will always get the best treatment, including gifts, all the traffic during contest time and goodness knows what else. i’ve been around a very very long time so i’m not speaking out of my ass or trying to be negative but simply sharing what i know. xox

pussyhoe
05-24-2018, 09:51 AM
I wish SM would catch tf up and offer Direct Deposit. Its Wed. and my check hasn't come when its 99% of the time here on Monday, full on stressing me out bc im going out of town for a mini vacay this weekend and that's my vacay money.

i’m honestlt super envious of anyone who never has issues receiving check by mail. i got tired of the mailman losing them , least i guess that’s what was happening. fed ex would’ve been worth the fee but the driver always lied about knocking on the door so it was always a hassle to get my check each friday. it just stinks they already take a huge % per dollar earned and then have the audacity to only offer wire so they can take even more $ from us

tropo
05-24-2018, 11:29 AM
Oh, then SM gives "test tip vibes" to their favorite models to try. I love when SM plays favorites. They can ram their tip vibe and ugly gold chain up their asses.

I'm not interested in them either. Just about every model on CB seems to be using them these days. Do guys really believe the girls are cumming? IMO it's a fad that will soon fade... and SM is just working on it now?

BadBitch
05-24-2018, 11:50 AM
it’ll always be that way because they (as well as all other industries) have to keep their top earners happy. the “average” earner is simply a bottom feeder in their eyes. adult as well as any other industry is more than likely a revolving door so when 1 leaves 10 more newer, younger and bright eyed “girl next doors” sign up in hopes of popularity, riches and diamonds. but the top top, elite, power players will always get the best treatment, including gifts, all the traffic during contest time and goodness knows what else. i’ve been around a very very long time so i’m not speaking out of my ass or trying to be negative but simply sharing what i know. xox

I'm a top earner. I don't get fucking shit. It's because I don't a. kiss their fucking ass and b. keep quiet about their shitty-ass site on Twitter. I find that SM doesn't bother with those of us who complain about their fucking glitchy-ass site.

I refuse to fucking kiss their ass. What are they doing for me? They keep 70%. They're not doing shit about their glitches. They're not doing shit about their non-existent traffic. Fuck them.

My time is very limited on this site.

BiancaNorwood
05-24-2018, 04:51 PM
I'm a little perturbed. A guy signed up through my link. He comes in today and tells me that he got all of these charges on his credit card - they were charges for a dating site (he said "ExoticMeet").

It's infuriating. I'm embarrassed. I have him sign up for my link then he gets charges. It makes me look like a scammer. Plus, why the hell do we have to click on 2 boxes, one of which says that we won't meet then they charge a customer for a DATING site?

This guy is new and is under the impression that I will meet him. He kept typing to me, "I'm in your city tonight." I had to be up-front with him and explain that I do not meet anyone from the site.

KatM
05-24-2018, 05:51 PM
^^^ It's a paradox, right? You oblige us to promise we will not meet our customers but u promote us on dating sites, how should we deal with this situation SM? I too have this kind of members!

Erika_Xstacy
05-24-2018, 06:16 PM
0__o wow
I have a huge amount of guys asking to give me their contact info.

I dont even entertain them with that answer. Stupid fucks, if they can type, they can read.
Go private.

the men that actually go private dont say a word until we are in private and that gives me anxiety lol especially when they dont talk.

KatM
05-24-2018, 06:40 PM
^^^ You get anxiety cause u dont know what they going to say/ ask from u? This is what i feel here, u never know what the guy is up to.
Recently i had this guy tipping me in free chat in $1 increments, one tip after the other and he typed some messages in between but while i was showing off to him i missed the message where he was asking me to meet him tho i saw the message where he asked me if i like the tips, i said yes but he believed i said yes to meeting. then he said 'Yes u like to meet?' I checked the chat, scrolled up and saw the damn message, told him 'sorry baby i overseen ur message cause of that 'receiving gold' messages filling up my chat window', no i dont meet up. he left right away. i was afraid SM could have been misinterpreted my answers, stressy situation for sure!

BiancaNorwood
05-24-2018, 06:54 PM
^^^ It's a paradox, right? You oblige us to promise we will not meet our customers but u promote us on dating sites, how should we deal with this situation SM? I too have this kind of members!

I felt so bad. I know if I had charges on my credit card, I'd be furious. I just feel like that's a reflection of me, ya know? I just kept thinking, "I hope he doesn't think I was in on that or had anything to do with that."

And it's confusing to the customer - we're being told that we cannot meet members and we relay that to the customers, yet, we are advertised and/or affiliated with dating sites.

pussyhoe
05-24-2018, 09:16 PM
I'm a top earner. I don't get fucking shit. It's because I don't a. kiss their fucking ass and b. keep quiet about their shitty-ass site on Twitter. I find that SM doesn't bother with those of us who complain about their fucking glitchy-ass site.

I refuse to fucking kiss their ass. What are they doing for me? They keep 70%. They're not doing shit about their glitches. They're not doing shit about their non-existent traffic. Fuck them.

My time is very limited on this site.
i don’t doubt that certain top earners are excluded from extras and gifts. regardless, y’all do work hard af!

TheBrownFox
05-24-2018, 09:47 PM
Just about every model on CB seems to be using them these days. Do guys really believe the girls are cumming?


Guys are stupid. Lol. Some of them really do think their $1 tips are making the model go into The Exorcist mode like that. HAHA.

Erika_Xstacy
05-24-2018, 10:11 PM
Oh, then SM gives "test tip vibes" to their favorite models to try. I love when SM plays favorites. They can ram their tip vibe and ugly gold chain up their asses.

Just clocked this... as in a streamate tip vibe?

AuroraJade
05-25-2018, 12:18 AM
Yeah I dont understand what certain models have against the tip vibe. I make really good money from it. Last night I made 80$ from the tip vibe alone. 80$ for putting on an exaggerated show, Id take that every day. Dont even have to talk to them.


I am kind of worried about this new tip vibe. I saw it and its one you have to insert, and with them rolling out this new tip vibe I can imagine they will allow only the new, expensive one in a few months. Wouldn't put it past them. That would be kind of shitty for the struggling models who have to shell out 100$ for a piece of plastic because SM says so.

tropo
05-25-2018, 03:27 AM
Yeah I dont understand what certain models have against the tip vibe. I make really good money from it. Last night I made 80$ from the tip vibe alone. 80$ for putting on an exaggerated show, Id take that every day. Dont even have to talk to them.



I'm not against them, I just don't use them as I don't do free shows for tips.

Ginnyyy
05-25-2018, 05:50 AM
I'm a little perturbed. A guy signed up through my link. He comes in today and tells me that he got all of these charges on his credit card - they were charges for a dating site (he said "ExoticMeet").

It's infuriating. I'm embarrassed. I have him sign up for my link then he gets charges. It makes me look like a scammer. Plus, why the hell do we have to click on 2 boxes, one of which says that we won't meet then they charge a customer for a DATING site?

This guy is new and is under the impression that I will meet him. He kept typing to me, "I'm in your city tonight." I had to be up-front with him and explain that I do not meet anyone from the site.

Your customer needs to read well everything on the page before signing up to cammodels, Streamate and it applies to every site in general. Many people do not know how to sign up and just misregard the other pre checked boxes at the bottom of the page. When I created my SM member account, I was given the option to pay for some other 2sites with subscriptions but I unchecked that option. That guy chose to pay for the subscription to that dating site because it is written (or it was when I checked last time) the payment for that service so it s hard to oversee it.
I bet it pays off to take a bit of time to properly read the sign up page, but many fail.

KatM
05-25-2018, 06:10 AM
Yeah I dont understand what certain models have against the tip vibe. I make really good money from it. Last night I made 80$ from the tip vibe alone. 80$ for putting on an exaggerated show, Id take that every day. Dont even have to talk to them.

We all know these guys are gullible as fuck. If they want to pay for a fake show, let them, they are happy and I can pay my bills. :) The majority dont even want (or deserve) a ' real ' show. They want to see what they like.

I am kind of worried about this new tip vibe. I saw it and its one you have to insert, and with them rolling out this new tip vibe I can imagine they will allow only the new, expensive one in a few months. Wouldn't put it past them. That would be kind of shitty because I dont want a vibrating thing up my cooter for 4-6hrs / day. I already turn off my Ohmibod when I use it. Not to mention the struggling models who have to shell out 100$ for a piece of plastic because SM says so.

You mind sharing more info about the toy they'll implement? Where u saw the toy, how much it costs, so on.
I am in the 'struggle league' so i wish to be prepared with some money for this new toy; i am on the waiting list for a MRI and will have to wait for up to 3 months to have my scan done with insurance otherwise the price is too high for me.
Hope the new tool/ toy will bring in some better traffic cause now its very low to us the non top earners.

SoloDesire
05-25-2018, 06:14 AM
Yeah I dont understand what certain models have against the tip vibe. I make really good money from it. Last night I made 80$ from the tip vibe alone. 80$ for putting on an exaggerated show, Id take that every day. Dont even have to talk to them.

We all know these guys are gullible as fuck. If they want to pay for a fake show, let them, they are happy and I can pay my bills. :) The majority dont even want (or deserve) a ' real ' show. They want to see what they like.

I am kind of worried about this new tip vibe. I saw it and its one you have to insert, and with them rolling out this new tip vibe I can imagine they will allow only the new, expensive one in a few months. Wouldn't put it past them. That would be kind of shitty because I dont want a vibrating thing up my cooter for 4-6hrs / day. I already turn off my Ohmibod when I use it. Not to mention the struggling models who have to shell out 100$ for a piece of plastic because SM says so.

Tip vibes just aren't everyone's jive. To me, it's the difference between MFC and Streamate. If I was in to giving public shows I'd just cam on MFC. I don't like the "free chat" show that these tip vibes bring to the site that is Private based. Regardless on how you look at it, guys are getting a free show off of someone else's money...they don't have to necessarily see nudity, a woman moaning and gyrating is enough to get a guy off. So while one guy is tipping, you could be losing money from the guy that just got off for free and doesn't need to spend now. It's just not the way I choose to cam. I don't have anything against the girl's that choose to use them...if they are staying within the site rules then everyone is entitled to work the way they want. I just choose to keep my show exclusively for inside of Private/Exclusive so I will never use a tip vibe in free chat. I don't even accept Gold tips for flashes in free chat...again, that's just how I run my room.

AuroraJade
05-25-2018, 06:18 AM
If I were to cam only waiting for privates and offering nothing in free chat I would not make enough money to live off unfortunately.

I dont have Twitter (where they shared it) but the lovense on its own is like 100$. I can imagine this being the same price or even more.

BiancaNorwood
05-25-2018, 06:19 AM
Your customer needs to read well everything on the page before signing up to cammodels, Streamate and it applies to every site in general. Many people do not know how to sign up and just misregard the other pre checked boxes at the bottom of the page. When I created my SM member account, I was given the option to pay for some other 2sites with subscriptions but I unchecked that option. That guy chose to pay for the subscription to that dating site because it is written (or it was when I checked last time) the payment for that service so it s hard to oversee it.
I bet it pays off to take a bit of time to properly read the sign up page, but many fail.

I asked him, "You sure you didn't click on anything or oversee something?". He got defensive and said, "I'm not retarded."

Ok, then.

KatM
05-25-2018, 06:27 AM
If I were to cam only waiting for privates and offering nothing in free chat I would not make enough money to live off unfortunately.

I dont have Twitter (where they shared it) but the lovense on its own is like 100$. I can imagine this being the same price or even more.

Yes, same here, i worked waiting for privates for many years cause that was my style too until my traffic & income dropped to the point where i was not making enough money anymore.
The vibe toy does help and is what these guys like/ want.
I have several outfits fetish oriented for my pvt shows but i have no customers for the things i offer, not anymore so i changed to what they want now. It's sad but that's my reality too.

tropo
05-25-2018, 07:09 AM
Yes, same here, i worked waiting for privates for many years cause that was my style too until my traffic & income dropped to the point where i was not making enough money anymore.
The vibe toy does help and is what these guys like/ want.
I have several outfits fetish oriented for my pvt shows but i have no customers for the things i offer, not anymore so i changed to what they want now. It's sad but that's my reality too.

If too many girls are using them guys will need to find something else to get them off... it has probably already reaching market saturation. Guys can watch hundred of girls with these deviced for free on numerous sites. More and more guys - "oh, there's another silly camgirl with a vibrator stuck up her pussy pretending to cum".

Make as much as you can while it lasts. It's a fad that will pass.

AuroraJade
05-25-2018, 07:12 AM
Yeah, so? Who cares what the customer thinks of us?

I dont understand why you are so hostile. You just do you please and let us tip vibe along. Guys can also watch hundreds of private shows online for free.

I am not going to give up a stream of income because you think its bad for the market.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-25-2018, 07:38 AM
While you ladies argue over tip vibes I just wanted to remind you that its a public forum where men and "researchers" gather information so they can repost it elsewhere. I just read a thesis last night where some chick didn't even bother to interview any actual cammodels. All the info came from forums. So even if you don't like tip vibes try to be mindful and more respectful of the next person's hustle. Openly debating it here kinda ruins it for people who depend on them.

And just to be clear when I say mindful I mean going into explicit detail on the authenticity of the performance with tip vibes.

BiancaNorwood
05-25-2018, 08:17 AM
While you ladies argue over tip vibes I just wanted to remind you that its a public forum where men and "researchers" gather information so they can repost it elsewhere. I just read a thesis last night where some chick didn't even bother to interview any actual cammodels. All the info came from forums. So even if you don't like tip vibes try to be mindful and more respectful of the next person's hustle. Openly debating it here kinda ruins it for people who depend on them.

And just to be clear when I say mindful I mean going into explicit detail on the authenticity of the performance with tip vibes.

This.

KatM
05-25-2018, 08:46 AM
^^^ This! Yes, pls do not give too much info about the show and how we do it.
(Ty Aurora xx)
(edited)

DeepThoughts
05-25-2018, 10:13 AM
While you ladies argue over tip vibes I just wanted to remind you that its a public forum where men and "researchers" gather information so they can repost it elsewhere. I just read a thesis last night where some chick didn't even bother to interview any actual cammodels. All the info came from forums. So even if you don't like tip vibes try to be mindful and more respectful of the next person's hustle. Openly debating it here kinda ruins it for people who depend on them.

And just to be clear when I say mindful I mean going into explicit detail on the authenticity of the performance with tip vibes.

YASSSS!! And as always I will be the devils advocate but I really love the way my tip vibe feels inside me! I never say Im cumming, cause im not, but just cause it doesnt do it for you doesnt mean thats true for everyone! I use my tip vibe almost daily regardless of if Im on cam or not.