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Scorpio Girl
06-01-2018, 10:00 PM
my main goal of this competition was to beat the bot account that was top 50 and hell top 25 for the majority of the contest. It appears I have but man that is sad. Just watch some porn bros
I'm curious. How can you tell which ones are the bot accounts?
Juliette25
06-01-2018, 10:35 PM
I asked him, "You sure you didn't click on anything or oversee something?". He got defensive and said, "I'm not retarded."
Ok, then.
I’m super late to the game but this guy in fact retarded. Don’t worry about his stupid ass and his extra charges. He deserved them.
kamiliam
06-02-2018, 01:06 AM
I'm curious. How can you tell which ones are the bot accounts?
They are on a loop, they don't respond to anything verbally, they are often pornstars with lower than 5 stars. You have to watch but it is obvious once you do. This one has remained for awhile which makes me feel there is more to why they are still around while others are pulled...
anonamiss
06-02-2018, 12:41 PM
They are on a loop, they don't respond to anything verbally, they are often pornstars with lower than 5 stars. You have to watch but it is obvious once you do. This one has remained for awhile which makes me feel there is more to why they are still around while others are pulled...
also, in my experience with using my customer account in a bot/loop room, if you try to ask them if they are actually live or accuse them of being a loop, you get instantly blocked. It feels automated somehow, as if their chat has been programmed to ban anyone who mentions the loop/recording. Or maybe there's someone actually there monitoring the chat. Its quite fascinating how those accounts make enough money to actually place in contest rankings...
The messed up part is, I'm not entirely sure they're breaking any rules. I reread our performer agreement and didn't find anywhere explicitly stating that you actually have to be streaming live (despite that literally being the point of the site.) I suppose the loops could be considered "fraudulent activity" though, since that is defined in the contract as "any activity on the site that results in complaints or chargebacks, or is deemed inappropriate by Streamate’s representative."
kamiliam
06-02-2018, 12:54 PM
Oh yeah I was banned by a mass of them for mentioning that they were on a loop. Ran by the same "studio" is my guess
and they place because they can stream 24 hours a day, they don't have to sleep or worry about pleasing their clients. they just suck guilable guys in
euro_princess
06-02-2018, 02:33 PM
Oh yeah I was banned by a mass of them for mentioning that they were on a loop. Ran by the same "studio" is my guess
and they place because they can stream 24 hours a day, they don't have to sleep or worry about pleasing their clients. they just suck guilable guys in
Can't you report them or tell other camgirls to report that account also? SM doesn't agree with this type of practice. And performers can report other performers, you just need a screenshot.
I'm sure enough complains will attract attention.
anonamiss
06-02-2018, 03:45 PM
Can't you report them or tell other camgirls to report that account also? SM doesn't agree with this type of practice. And performers can report other performers, you just need a screenshot.
I'm sure enough complains will attract attention.
I really don't know if SM cares, especially considering these accounts are clearly making them money. I think they'd have to get lots of complaints from customers (not models) for it to possibly have an impact.
euro_princess
06-02-2018, 04:34 PM
Not necessarily, suspending accounts is sometimes a russian roulette with SM. I've seen above average models who got suspended (not banned) for barely anything. One of my friends got her account closed for a few days because she showed her pubic hair, without actually exposing intimate parts, just the upper part. Pretty sure another model reported her. I doubt a customer would complain about that.
At the end of the day, if too many people are being scammed, the website has to refund them. So it's best they get those accounts banned.
BadBitch
06-02-2018, 06:12 PM
Not necessarily, suspending accounts is sometimes a russian roulette with SM. I've seen above average models who got suspended (not banned) for barely anything. One of my friends got her account closed for a few days because she showed her pubic hair, without actually exposing intimate parts, just the upper part. Pretty sure another model reported her. I doubt a customer would complain about that.
At the end of the day, if too many people are being scammed, the website has to refund them. So it's best they get those accounts banned.
That's when SM goes into full-on "Bizarro World". They ban and suspend girls for showing pubic hair or something ridiculous. Meanwhile, there are accounts on their site on loop which is a total scam. I have seen guys complain about the looped rooms SO many times. Yet, SM won't do fucking shit about it. But they'll ban a legit model for a pussy hair showing through her drawers. Fucking ridiculous.
BadBitch
06-02-2018, 06:13 PM
Why is it that when I try to post a pic of myself as my default and used a Snapchat filter, SM tells me that it's not permitted. YET, I just saw a "top model" with a Snapchat filtered pic as her default pic???
Oh, because I'm not a favorite. My bad.
Erika_Xstacy
06-02-2018, 07:23 PM
Why is it that when I try to post a pic of myself as my default and used a Snapchat filter, SM tells me that it's not permitted. YET, I just saw a "top model" with a Snapchat filtered pic as her default pic???
Oh, because I'm not a favorite. My bad.
same here
The pubic hair matter, I always say no to the guys who ask to see 'just that I have pubic hair' tho I sometimes show on the sides of my panties just so they know I am hairy for real, now I am scared to show even that. No kidding, I often have the feeling I am being tested, not sure by whom but I have this inner feeling because they ask for things in free chat that are forbidden, maybe they other models or studio bosses or who knows, legit customers, I play safe and always say No to what is not allowed, some are surprised why I don't do what others do?! I tell them 'not allowed'.
You never know what Sm consider a rule breaker but I saw many things over the years on site that were blatantly rule breaking tho that accounts remained open.
The loop thing, they state "all streams has to be live, no recordings allowed'. Looks like 'money talk' louder than rules.
Any news on the new vibe toy Sm wanna introduc! Maybe some of u girls know more?
Blovely
06-02-2018, 08:15 PM
I remember a while back someone saying that those looped model accounts are ran by SM themselves and by popular studios. If that's true it makes sense why they don't ban those accounts and why they're "protective" of them.
anonamiss
06-02-2018, 08:47 PM
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The loop thing, they state "all streams has to be live, no recordings allowed'. Looks like 'money talk' louder than rules.
are you certain of this? I've reread our performer agreement multiple times and it does not word it in this way anywhere. The word "recording" is literally not included in the entire document; its easy to do a single word search on the page. The only sentence that mentions "live streams" is this: "Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, Performer/Studio may use this web interface to generate revenue for live performances, and Performer/Studio agrees to provide content to Streamate."
I think this implies it is meant to be used as a live platform, but there's no where I could find that explicitly states you can't stream a recording or that you will be penalized for it... Which is why I think they remain online.
^^^ If they say 'it must be used for live streaming' this automatically excludes all other options like recordings as i understand it.
I'll look up myself cause they updated the agreement recently. xx
Edited to add:
They removed the recordings/ video terms, i signed an old contract where they were stating clearly no video recording.
Oh well...
KatyBoleyn
06-03-2018, 07:53 AM
You're not allowed to loop video. If you see it, report it.
Feel free to send me a PM with the screen name(s) and I'll make the case to SM.
Panthera
06-04-2018, 11:12 AM
Anyone else kept having members disconnecting from private since 2-3 days ago? Cam 2 cam doesn't work (member's cam gets disconnected after a minute), members get kicked out of private with the message : ...has logged off (reason: user connection issue). Also, since I changed my browser from Edge to Chrome, my member notes are taking forever to load. Anyone tried Mozilla? They recommend Chrome and Mozilla but I only had Chrome installed.
I don't think it's an issue on my end, I did not change anything and my connection is fine..
breadandbutter
06-04-2018, 12:07 PM
c2c has been either lagging a lot or freezing all together, for a couple months now for me :/ pretty annoying
Girly_Girl
06-05-2018, 05:37 AM
holy fuck! sm broadcaster is driving me fucking crazy this morning!!!! Posted this in the sm tread earlier too:
anyone else having problems logging into sm this morning? I'm using sm broadcaster, it will act connect for a few seconds and then disconnect and then I get a error message:
streamate limited error:
you have lost streaming connection, please try again
Ive tried like 10 times already ;(((((
FINALLY got it to connect and stay connect a little longer after 20 times and then it start dropping video quality to 320 x 180 and just disconnecting all together!!!!!!!!!! And when I say it's disconnecting all together I mean, now I am getting a pop up error and then sm broadcaster is closing all together???
Anyone else dealing with this stupid crap or is it something on my end? I don't see how it could be my internet tho cause I am on several other websites on another laptop and I am staying connected with them just fine? So wtf is going on?
SoloDesire
06-05-2018, 05:56 AM
holy fuck! sm broadcaster is driving me fucking crazy this morning!!!! Posted this in the sm tread earlier too:
anyone else having problems logging into sm this morning? I'm using sm broadcaster, it will act connect for a few seconds and then disconnect and then I get a error message:
streamate limited error:
you have lost streaming connection, please try again
Ive tried like 10 times already ;(((((
FINALLY got it to connect and stay connect a little longer after 20 times and then it start dropping video quality to 320 x 180 and just disconnecting all together!!!!!!!!!! And when I say it's disconnecting all together I mean, now I am getting a pop up error and then sm broadcaster is closing all together???
Anyone else dealing with this stupid crap or is it something on my end? I don't see how it could be my internet tho cause I am on several other websites on another laptop and I am staying connected with them just fine? So wtf is going on?
No problems with SMB for me. The only time I ever have issues is when my internet is acting up. Any bit of instability with my internet connection and SMB turns into Satan.
Girly_Girl
06-05-2018, 06:04 AM
No problems with SMB for me. The only time I ever have issues is when my internet is acting up. Any bit of instability with my internet connection and SMB turns into Satan.
My other sites that I am on thru a different laptop are staying connected fine tho? If I swith to obs, would it stay connected better?
Girly_Girl
06-05-2018, 06:37 AM
I just checked my internet speed and I am getting 65 download and 5,75 upload (fastest I can get in my area right now) so I dont think its my internet...idk but I tried logging into sm on my other laptop and I was staying connected but my stream wasnt loading from mobile side but I checked my stream from my laptop and it was working? Whats up with that?
BadBitch
06-05-2018, 06:50 AM
Can't post videos to this fucking site.
Dahlia Fallon
06-05-2018, 06:57 AM
Is this one too big? It happened to one of mine with a large file size. I downgraded the quality and it went through fine.
BadBitch
06-05-2018, 08:16 PM
Is this one too big? It happened to one of mine with a large file size. I downgraded the quality and it went through fine.
It's a little bit over 10 minutes.
So fucking frustrating.
kamiliam
06-05-2018, 09:56 PM
I just had 10 minutes of no new members coming into chat, no one in chat talking and the potential members count not changing. I think I was in a vortex, all my specs were fine. these past couple days have been a challenge
^^^ Same here, extremely slow this week ...
Lola4u
06-06-2018, 07:33 AM
For more then 8 months , i can not upload new pictures into my pics gallery . I click on the "browse for photos " button , i add the wanted pictures and there is an endless pending . What could be done about this ? I tried to open my Streamate page into all of the possible browsers, Microsoft edge, Chrome, Mozilla and is the same thing. Im trying to add pictures made with my Logitech C920 cam, as before ,and for so many months i just simply cant . Is there anybody that can help me with an idea how to fix this ?
And the second question that is driving me crazy... into the last two weeks , my traffic is VERY slow , ok , im on the second page , ok . But WHERE ARE MY REGULARS ? Im having over 5500 guys that have me into their fave list , where are they ???? Im having shows with new guys mostly ,or , extremely weird , guys that have had shows with me in 2015-2016 ?!? Where are these 5500+ guys that have me into their fave list ???
SarahFable
06-06-2018, 10:34 AM
I don't really see anyone else having an issue with this. but i am fairly new with only 7 - 5 star ratings, they said it would show as 5 star after the first 5 votes, but it's still showing as 4. UGH
NOT to mention of the two tags I have so far one is BIG TUSHEE, who exactly calls it a freaking tushee, one, and thanks so much for that searchable tag anon >.>
Dahlia Fallon
06-06-2018, 10:50 AM
you can block it from your profile, but yes i think it is still searchable. With the ratings it usually takes around 48 hours to catch up. were the last 3 ratings pretty recent? It will sort itself out soon 8)
euro_princess
06-06-2018, 10:53 AM
I don't really see anyone else having an issue with this. but i am fairly new with only 7 - 5 star ratings, they said it would show as 5 star after the first 5 votes, but it's still showing as 4. UGH
NOT to mention of the two tags I have so far one is BIG TUSHEE, who exactly calls it a freaking tushee, one, and thanks so much for that searchable tag anon >.>
Takes 24h (sometimes more) for the system to update the general rating. You should see it tomorrow.
SarahFable
06-06-2018, 12:11 PM
Hmm my last one was a week ago, if i don't see any changes in another rating or two i'll worry about it
hope this is okay to show, but these are my little list of ratings, maybe it needs more than 5 DAYS of ratings.
bleh - if it doesn't change with new ratings i'll bug them then. I just didn't want to be like a crazy ex girlfriend and blow up their tech support
2018-05-10 2 0 0 0 0 2 5.00
2018-05-15 2 0 0 0 0 2 5.00
2018-05-21 1 0 0 0 0 1 5.00
2018-05-24 1 0 0 0 0 1 5.00
2018-05-27 1 0 0 0 0 1 5.00
my impatience is showing so thank you for answering my newbie questions girls <3 and have a successful month
Dahlia Fallon
06-06-2018, 12:24 PM
The only other thing I can think of is that some of your ratings were left by the same person after different shows, they will only count the most recent rating in your average and so you might not have hit 5 from 5 different people. You can check by running through your payment history and seeing who left what in their profile.
waogtrain
06-06-2018, 05:37 PM
I'm having the worst week so far. I went from okay-ish traffic to zero traffic. Last week was great but this week I'm at 2% paid chat. I keep trying to tell myself to stick it out because sometimes its worth it, but no one is talking and its driving me nuts. I've got to be done for the day and considering taking tomorrow off just to avoid burnout. :/
DahliaSimone
06-06-2018, 05:50 PM
i'm having the worst week so far. I went from okay-ish traffic to zero traffic. Last week was great but this week i'm at 2% paid chat. I keep trying to tell myself to stick it out because sometimes its worth it, but no one is talking and its driving me nuts. I've got to be done for the day and considering taking tomorrow off just to avoid burnout. :/
All. Of. This.
kamiliam
06-06-2018, 07:39 PM
I just wanted to add that a trusted reg who works in tech said the mobile site wasn't working from his phone (iphone specifically), 5 others last night said they couldn't tip from mobile, lots of connections lost, etc. I don't access the site from mobile as it always seems to give me issues but it sounds like there was a mobile update lately.
I did the "mini" report to support and am debating contacting support for a response but I am not sure if it is worth their runaround. If I have more things occur tonight I will. I rarely have these issues but I seem to be getting blasted by them. When I asked another person who was in my room about the 10 minute freeze on my stream that I mentioned earlier he said I was offline. I do not jump on the SM is broken wagon but it is a little funky right now.
BadBitch
06-06-2018, 08:34 PM
I had a regular come in. He said I was laggy, plus it kept telling him that I was going into private.
Awesome.
MILFYfun
06-06-2018, 10:26 PM
Having worst night on SM that I have had in ages. TONS of trolls and complainers. Not just the usual trolling, the vindictive, bitchy type. Not sure where SM are advertising tonight, but the clientele totally suck right now. Even the guys taking shows are way more rude than usual...not sure if the site is glitching and everyone is grumpy or what. But I am talking verbally abusive trolling tonight. Oh wells....we are richer, smarter and hotter than them hehe, so who gives a fuck :) It also seems like I am getting a lot of completely stupid guys tonight...and I mean REALLY stupid. I hope they are not advertising on some inbreed, age play site or anything.
MILFYfun
06-06-2018, 11:37 PM
holy fuck! sm broadcaster is driving me fucking crazy this morning!!!! Posted this in the sm tread earlier too:
anyone else having problems logging into sm this morning? I'm using sm broadcaster, it will act connect for a few seconds and then disconnect and then I get a error message:
streamate limited error:
you have lost streaming connection, please try again
Ive tried like 10 times already ;(((((
FINALLY got it to connect and stay connect a little longer after 20 times and then it start dropping video quality to 320 x 180 and just disconnecting all together!!!!!!!!!! And when I say it's disconnecting all together I mean, now I am getting a pop up error and then sm broadcaster is closing all together???
Anyone else dealing with this stupid crap or is it something on my end? I don't see how it could be my internet tho cause I am on several other websites on another laptop and I am staying connected with them just fine? So wtf is going on?
Kinda late here, but I have random days when it does this too, and it's not my internet. I always uninstall it, then reinstall it. Sometimes this can take 20-30 mins (optimizing time included) but it has always fixed the problem for me. I can't be bothered waiting it out, so I don't know if it would have just gone back to normal on it's own.
DeepThoughts
06-07-2018, 05:56 AM
Having worst night on SM that I have had in ages. TONS of trolls and complainers. Not just the usual trolling, the vindictive, bitchy type. Not sure where SM are advertising tonight, but the clientele totally suck right now. Even the guys taking shows are way more rude than usual...not sure if the site is glitching and everyone is grumpy or what. But I am talking verbally abusive trolling tonight. Oh wells....we are richer, smarter and hotter than them hehe, so who gives a fuck :) It also seems like I am getting a lot of completely stupid guys tonight...and I mean REALLY stupid. I hope they are not advertising on some inbreed, age play site or anything.
Yeah I had a slew of these this week as well. Not really abusive but trying to troll me. One guy yesterday asked my age and when I told him to guess he said 50 :D Im not in my 20's but Im also not 50. The other guys in my room were like "holy shit your 50??". Le Sigh.
Also lots of guys just flat out admitting they cannot afford me and park it in my chat to talk. I start a gold show and they dont join. I let them sit. I dont care and cant give that kind of attention to my guest list but I also noticed there are more this week then ever. Also Lots of Stupid guys. Like you said, just flat out stupid. trouble spelling words over 4 letters sort of stupid. Maybe its a MILF thing. They are coming for the MILF's :D
MILFYfun
06-07-2018, 01:33 PM
Yeah I had a slew of these this week as well. Not really abusive but trying to troll me. One guy yesterday asked my age and when I told him to guess he said 50 :D Im not in my 20's but Im also not 50. The other guys in my room were like "holy shit your 50??". Le Sigh.
Also lots of guys just flat out admitting they cannot afford me and park it in my chat to talk. I start a gold show and they dont join. I let them sit. I dont care and cant give that kind of attention to my guest list but I also noticed there are more this week then ever. Also Lots of Stupid guys. Like you said, just flat out stupid. trouble spelling words over 4 letters sort of stupid. Maybe its a MILF thing. They are coming for the MILF's :D
Lol, I had to laugh because some guy spelled bitch "beach" hahahaha. beachutrippen...that was his screen name LMFAO!!!
It was prob Rudy Guiliani :-)
BadBitch
06-07-2018, 02:35 PM
Lol, I had to laugh because some guy spelled bitch "beach" hahahaha. beachutrippen...that was his screen name LMFAO!!!
It was prob Rudy Guiliani :-)
Aw, I love beachutrippin! He's sweet and tips!
MILFYfun
06-07-2018, 02:44 PM
Aw, I love beachutrippin! He's sweet and tips!
My bad, I assumed he meant bitch and was gonna be mean. His name did make me laugh really hard though. I had a lot of really mean guys last night, so I was definitely on the defense mode. You know the type that put down your looks, weight etc. etc. Then complain about price and say you're not worth it, when they have never even had a show.
I take back my insult on beachutrippen...by saying he was prob Rudy Guiliani.
BadBitch
06-07-2018, 02:47 PM
My bad, I assumed he meant bitch and was gonna be mean. His name did make me laugh really hard though. I had a lot of really mean guys last night, so I was definitely on the defense mode. You know the type that put down your looks, weight etc. etc. Then complain about price and say you're not worth it, when they have never even had a show.
Aw, no worries. He's really nice. I get what you mean though. I'd probably think the same :)
SuperPookie
06-07-2018, 03:34 PM
Wth I haven't even had anyone in my room in 30 minutes. 0 shows
MILFYfun
06-07-2018, 05:20 PM
OK I'm giving this another shot today, even though I averaged $30 less per hour, than I have for months, all shift yesterday. Will report back later. Trying to keep an open mind...but not super hopeful, based upon yesterday.
Results 4 hours later- Things are back to normal for me, or have been tonight. I kinda get the vibe this is what is happening for everyone else too...hope I am right.
BadBitch
06-08-2018, 04:57 PM
I sound like a goddamn broken record, but what the fuck with this placement???!!!! I'm going lower and lower, yet my hours are going up. Yeah, SM. Keep fucking placing me lower. That's a great way to treat a model who has worked on your site for over 5 years. You REALLY have your priorities in order.
^^^ I really dont worry about placement anymore, they have this new formula they use now, i cant change how they decide to place me so i gave up hurting myself trying to do better and get higher in lists, somehow members still find me, if i make the same money or more i am all happy.
I just had 10 minutes of no new members coming into chat, no one in chat talking and the potential members count not changing. I think I was in a vortex, all my specs were fine. these past couple days have been a challenge
The last two nights have been this way for me and I'm in the top 20. I move around the top 2 to 4 rows (if we're counting by 5) and it's just in/out, silent lurkers and beggars. I think to be honest it's because there's a new crew of models showing pussy in guest chat. I don't usually look to see what other models are doing but when it's slow like this I start to defeat myself with negative thoughts so today I did. One girl had a thong on with her lips sticking out a little and I think SM actually shut her down. I can't imagine a model logging off with 100 in tips on a 120 goal. Kinda made me feel worse. How come I'm not making tips? LOL
Erika_Xstacy
06-09-2018, 12:41 AM
I’m in shock. I’ve asked so many times about the esca, if Sm is integrating it, if they are I want to know, buying this makes more sense than lush for me bc I only cam Streamate.
Communication stops
I just want to know. . I don’t give a shit if it’s a failure, I need to replace my toy. I need a toy bc my lush broke and I don’t want to fucking spend 200 fucking dollars bc Streamate has a toy. Like FUCK.
:D