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DeepThoughts
06-18-2018, 07:11 AM
I cannot get on SM. Anyone else??

Ginnyyy
06-18-2018, 07:17 AM
How is it that "top models" are STILL sending links for videos? Several emails went out about it and they are STILL sending links.

If I were doing it, my ass would get suspended so fucking fast.

I wouldn t worry too much. It s great that you follow the rules so you re 100%safe. I m pretty sure SM will eventually reinforce their rules on everybody at any given moment, so they could cut down the traffic loses with the external links. I want to think it s just a matter of time.

princess_casual
06-18-2018, 07:39 AM
I cannot get on SM. Anyone else??

Got disconnected about an hour ago... tried reconnecting but it keeps showing that it is loading. Restarted my PC and nada. Hopefully uninstalling/reinstalling the broadcaster works

MissCavalli
06-18-2018, 08:01 AM
Can't log in to SM! Using SMBroadcast.

wtf?

DeepThoughts
06-18-2018, 08:41 AM
I cant either. havent been able to for about an hour now. It was working fine before that.

DeepThoughts
06-18-2018, 09:04 AM
This just in. I still cant get on. FML

MissCavalli
06-18-2018, 09:22 AM
Ah, working now!
Although I lost some hours of my schedule...

Girly_Girl
06-18-2018, 10:17 AM
I've been seeing this all morning!!! Seriously tho, I can't tell u how many guys have left the room and I've seen this today! :

checkout has logged off (reason: user connection issue)


Anyone else?

BadBitch
06-18-2018, 05:09 PM
This just in. I still cant get on. FML

Fucking ridiculous.

Glamourmilf
06-19-2018, 07:41 AM
Something is majorly wrong.
I logged on last night, and right away my room fills up.
A good sign, right?
But, only 1 person said something. " Stand up and do a twirl for us"::)
Everyone else would leave.
This went on for 2 hours!
15-25 or so members would pop in and quickly pop out. ( Not even counting potential members)
Lots of guys I had sessions with were doing this too.
Now, normally, if I have even 5 guys in my chat, SOMEBODY'S going to take me for a show.
I changed my lighting. Changed my clothes 3×, lowered my prices, offered free videos.
Nothing worked.
I just had 1 guy take me private, and when his cam froze, he left.
A reg got frustrated, because he kept getting booted out of private.
So, I just sat in free chat, and counted.
After 472 guys popped in and out of my chat, I had to just say fuck it, and log off.

Violet_Z
06-19-2018, 08:48 AM
Yesterday was so bad when I logged on. I'm like always first page again and still i managed to just struggle threw $10 an hour because everyone getting logged off. Somthing was up with the servers, guys kept taking me to shows then getting logged off and yelling me sorry when they came back they thought it was their internet.

Is there a way to sell stuff from streamate share in your chat room?

BadBitch
06-19-2018, 10:29 AM
Something is majorly wrong.
I logged on last night, and right away my room fills up.
A good sign, right?
But, only 1 person said something. " Stand up and do a twirl for us"::)
Everyone else would leave.
This went on for 2 hours!
15-25 or so members would pop in and quickly pop out. ( Not even counting potential members)
Lots of guys I had sessions with were doing this too.
Now, normally, if I have even 5 guys in my chat, SOMEBODY'S going to take me for a show.
I changed my lighting. Changed my clothes 3×, lowered my prices, offered free videos.
Nothing worked.
I just had 1 guy take me private, and when his cam froze, he left.
A reg got frustrated, because he kept getting booted out of private.
So, I just sat in free chat, and counted.
After 472 guys popped in and out of my chat, I had to just say fuck it, and log off.

This is EXACTLY what's been happening with me! I'm not sure what the hell is going on.

seicento
06-19-2018, 12:36 PM
I sent lots of reports for c2c issue yesterday, only 2 guys were able to c2c during my 6 hours shift. One guy left with "reason unknown". He came back saying he tried to tip me and it kicked him out.

Serena113
06-19-2018, 12:41 PM
I sent lots of reports for c2c issue yesterday, only 2 guys were able to c2c during my 6 hours shift. One guy left with "reason unknown". He came back saying he tried to tip me and it kicked him out.

I had to report a ton of c2c issues too. And lost out on a lot of money because they tend to end the show when that happens. Pretty aggravating!

pippapippa
06-19-2018, 08:24 PM
There's a top row girl right now talking about how she'll meet up with you if you come to her city. How the fuck is this allowed on here?

AuroraJade
06-20-2018, 03:24 AM
Because she is a top girl and that gets you to do everything you want.

Only when you kiss their asses on social media tho. Unless they see you as a bottom feeder, like they see the rest of us. If you kiss their asses you get tacky gold necklaces, thank you cards and special rules.

euro_princess
06-20-2018, 03:32 AM
Maybe she was joking. When people ask me if I want to meet them, I just say they don't have enough to pay me. Some people might think that's a way of trying to get a good offer, but I'm playing around.
As long as she doesn't give personal info, her address, neighborhood, phone no etc, I don't see any issues. Maybe she is even lying about her city, a lot of girls do to protect themselves.
I do understand some girls might get away with breaking the rules (not just top models, let's remember how many do shows in free chat). But sometimes I feel like girls try to find reasons to hate on other workers. Chill out. I'm sure she's not talking seriously and she's not a top model because of that specific reason. Plus, as a top earning model, you don't need to meet people, you're already banking.
Just my two cents.

BadBitch
06-20-2018, 08:21 AM
Maybe she was joking. When people ask me if I want to meet them, I just say they don't have enough to pay me. Some people might think that's a way of trying to get a good offer, but I'm playing around.
As long as she doesn't give personal info, her address, neighborhood, phone no etc, I don't see any issues. Maybe she is even lying about her city, a lot of girls do to protect themselves.
I do understand some girls might get away with breaking the rules (not just top models, let's remember how many do shows in free chat). But sometimes I feel like girls try to find reasons to hate on other workers. Chill out. I'm sure she's not talking seriously and she's not a top model because of that specific reason. Plus, as a top earning model, you don't need to meet people, you're already banking.
Just my two cents.

I wouldn't tell someone to "chill out" about this. This is a serious topic. By a model telling customers that they'll meet is against the site. That then leads guys to think that we ALL will meet. Prior to logging on, we check a box off saying that we won't meet for a reason. Also, just because she's top row does not mean that she's "banking". Some studios push models ahead of other models.

BadBitch
06-20-2018, 09:30 AM
The other thing that annoys me is that some models take off for weeks at a time. But, when they return, they are still top row or first. There was even a model who took off for an entire year, came back and had the same placement. It was so much higher than mine and I work 6-7 days a week for about 8 hours each day.

How the fuck is that fair???

I just took off for 2 days and my placement dropped 2 fucking rows.

Glamourmilf
06-20-2018, 09:36 AM
Something is majorly wrong.
I logged on last night, and right away my room fills up.
A good sign, right?
But, only 1 person said something. " Stand up and do a twirl for us"::)
Everyone else would leave.
This went on for 2 hours!
15-25 or so members would pop in and quickly pop out. ( Not even counting potential members)
Lots of guys I had sessions with were doing this too.
Now, normally, if I have even 5 guys in my chat, SOMEBODY'S going to take me for a show.
I changed my lighting. Changed my clothes 3×, lowered my prices, offered free videos.
Nothing worked.
I just had 1 guy take me private, and when his cam froze, he left.
A reg got frustrated, because he kept getting booted out of private.
So, I just sat in free chat, and counted.
After 472 guys popped in and out of my chat, I had to just say fuck it, and log off.


This is EXACTLY what's been happening with me! I'm not sure what the hell is going on.
Reporting. Yesterday this didn't happen, and I had back to back shows.
How in the bloody hell!
If I didn't know any better, I'd think SM manipulated traffic.:wizard:
But, they would NEVER do that, would they? {Cough cough}
:thinking:

Violet_Z
06-20-2018, 10:20 AM
The c2c thing is still happening! Grrr... Like some of my customers tried to open there cam like 15 time and it doesn't work.. I hope they fix this soon. It's losing so much money.

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 11:12 AM
I really get uncomfortable when the cam models start policing the other models out there. I feel like your all tattle tales or rats. If this was prison you'd of had your asses handed to you by now.

Is there no comraderie among us?

MsJess
06-20-2018, 11:23 AM
It's so slow i'm gonna cry

DahliaSimone
06-20-2018, 11:33 AM
I really get uncomfortable when the cam models start policing the other models out there. I feel like your all tattle tales or rats. If this was prison you'd of had your asses handed to you by now.

Is there no comraderie among us?

I wouldnt say 'you're all'. Not by a long shot. I never look at other models, I never look at placement, as far as im concerned whatever a model does in her room I give zero fucks about, as long as it doesnt put my own job at jeopardy.

Violet_Z
06-20-2018, 11:36 AM
I really get uncomfortable when the cam models start policing the other models out there. I feel like your all tattle tales or rats. If this was prison you'd of had your asses handed to you by now.

Is there no comraderie among us?

I feel like this too. I love watching other cam girls. I've been at this job for too many years to be bitter about what some girl does.
I joke all the time about meeting men. They don't even know what state I'm in. I am a complete lier on cam about my area. It really bothers me to know that there are girls out there hanging out in my room waiting to report me over my nonsense.

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 11:37 AM
^^ When I say "your all" its in reference to the other models that feel they have to police the rest of us. I acknowledge that not all models do this. It was just a follow up from the first sentence. I never look in other girls rooms. I dont care and I dont have time cause Im too busy making $$

pippapippa
06-20-2018, 12:17 PM
I’m just going to say you can look in my history and tell I rarely complain about other models. Now that FOSTA/SESTA is a thing, it’s extremely important that models aren’t promoting their escorting on Streamate. She wasn’t joking.

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 12:28 PM
^^ but thats on her!

euro_princess
06-20-2018, 01:35 PM
I wouldn't tell someone to "chill out" about this. This is a serious topic. By a model telling customers that they'll meet is against the site. That then leads guys to think that we ALL will meet. Prior to logging on, we check a box off saying that we won't meet for a reason. Also, just because she's top row does not mean that she's "banking". Some studios push models ahead of other models.

This doesn't affect you personally. If she's breaking the rules and actually exchanging info with people, then she will get banned at some point. I know girls who got banned for talking about Western Union or giving phone numbers. Just because we don't see girls getting suspended, doesn't mean they are not. And again, you can't say for sure you know what she's doing. Maybe she's messing around. You legitimately saw her saying: let's meet at Walmart on Street 123, at 8:30 PM? I assume not.

Some girls do extreme things, some girls don't even get naked, that doesn't mean ALL customers think we are all the same, copy pasted. It's in your power to educate your clients, regardless of other camgirls do.

And SM position varies on multiple reasons, but no 1 it's money. Some girls just had some good years on the website and they are still high.

pippapippa
06-20-2018, 01:48 PM
She literally said “we can arrange me sucking your cock by you coming to [her city here].” I get what you all are saying about it not affecting me and all that, but she was being blatantly obvious. She was a fairly new model, so it’s possible she either doesn’t know she can’t meet up with people or simply hasn’t been caught yet.

MILFYfun
06-20-2018, 02:29 PM
I really get uncomfortable when the cam models start policing the other models out there. I feel like your all tattle tales or rats. If this was prison you'd of had your asses handed to you by now.

Is there no comraderie among us?

There is a definite creepy factor there. I get what the other girls are saying, and it is annoying when guys assume that I will meet up with them, because some other dumb ass has been saying that...but it is also SUPER creepy thinking other chicks could be coming in my room and hanging out in free chat, wasting my time and testing me/ creeping. I see both sides, but yeah...let the SM staff do that.

I had an account briefly, that I used to put 3 tags on myself, and popped into front page rooms to see prices...for one afternoon. I never stayed long enough to know what anyone was saying, and I closed the account. For those of us that aren't breaking the rules, it's pretty infuriating to think we are getting watched and tested... not just by staff, but other models. But I won't lie...it's also infuriating to think girls are out there in free chat making the rest of us look like Escorts. I have no problem with Escorts, and have a few friends who are Escorts...but I DO have a huge problem with guys automatically assuming that because some other camgirl is an escort, I am too, and then rating me bad, or being a fucking vindictive donkey cock sucker, because he feels entitled to meet up with me irl. and I have said No. So I wish chicks that were doing that would knock it off, and at least have the class to keep it to paid chat only, if they are going to fuck with these guys. That's my 5 cents (I ramble, but I do feel strongly about both of these issues).

Overall I also hope none of these girls are actually meeting up with any of these guys, because most importantly, that's a really quick way to get hurt emotionally, financially and physically. It also attracts more asshole types to the site, and less nerds, and I want more nerds ….less asshole narcissists!

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 02:55 PM
I just think we are more powerful when we have one another backs rather then calling one another out. It can be a lonely life working in this industry and I can tell you that I have found a closeness with other pornstars that I dont even have with my own family. We just get one another cause were both there in the trenches sucking dick and being misunderstood by men the world over and Sometime I see that here but I think sometimes the cam environment gets us feeling like we have to compete against one another.

We dont have to compete. The guy who is checking out model A isnt ever going to be into you but equally the guy checking you out is never gonna be into Model A. I know a lot of you dont want to hear this but even if you have every girl breaking the rules banned on SM it isnt gonna increase your earnings or drive more traffic into your room. Only you can increase your earnings.

MILFYfun
06-20-2018, 04:11 PM
Also..last few things I am gonna say on the issue, but just because a person is in a top model spot doesn't mean they are making more than someone else. I am usually always top row, but have never placed once in a contest. I have worked for 4 -5 years loyally to this site for that, not stealing customers, and bringing as many new guys in, as I can. Never live camming anywhere else. I have figured out strategies to work less, make more...and so if I take a week off, but still appear in the top row...it's because I average a HUGE hourly rate. I see girls on here all the time working 10 hours, and complaining they only made $30. I have never in my camming career stayed on when it is that slow, hence my higher average. Make clips, do phone sex, do something else in the meantime if the site is slow, that builds your individual following! I stick to the site rules ANALLY , and I don't know a single person who works for SM. They (support) have given me shit all the time for the slightest thing, to where I watch every word I say in PVT, and in free.

I flat out think these placement conspiracy theories are wrong, I am no ones favorite...I just worked smarter, not harder. And I deserve the placement I get for that, for the risks I have taken with such high visibility in this adult world, as well as the HOURS and HOURS I have put in experimenting, researching, practicing, and learning. And I totally resent the idea that people out there are judging me and not honoring that!

We don't need to compete with each other, there are literally millions of men across time zones jerking off, or wanting to, at any given time. There are probably less than 10 000 girls online camming on all main sites, at any given time. Some guys skip across girls, many don't and only want a certain type.

Now I am taking a break from this site. I am done with this unfair shit.
Peace out!!!

anonamiss
06-20-2018, 04:13 PM
I just think we are more powerful when we have one another backs rather then calling one another out. It can be a lonely life working in this industry and I can tell you that I have found a closeness with other pornstars that I dont even have with my own family. We just get one another cause were both there in the trenches sucking dick and being misunderstood by men the world over and Sometime I see that here but I think sometimes the cam environment gets us feeling like we have to compete against one another.

We dont have to compete. The guy who is checking out model A isnt ever going to be into you but equally the guy checking you out is never gonna be into Model A. I know a lot of you dont want to hear this but even if you have every girl breaking the rules banned on SM it isnt gonna increase your earnings or drive more traffic into your room. Only you can increase your earnings.

so are you saying that just because someone is part of this industry we should automatically have their backs? I totally disagree. Particularly in the wake of fosta/sesta. I'm paranoid as shit that our site could be shut down at any moment, and it's certainly not helping the chances of the site staying active if there are front page girls getting away with soliciting meetups. If enough of that happens the site could be seen as promoting prostitution and get shut down. I'm not going to support a girl for pulling that shit and potentially putting all of our jobs/incomes on the line. I don't care about girls breaking other rules anymore, but I do care about them breaking this particular one.

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 04:23 PM
I stick to the site rules ANALLY , and I don't know a single person who works for SM. They (support) have given me shit all the time for the slightest thing, to where I watch every word I say in PVT, and in free.



Once I got a temp ban cause I had Extreme Throat Fuck in my GS description. I called SM to ask WTF?!?!!?!? Turns out they it was picking out "METH" from ExtreME THroat. and so I got banned :D They dropped the ban it was some silly algorithm that picked it out but yep they are looking for this stuff! It can happen to us all.

BadBitch
06-20-2018, 04:41 PM
I really get uncomfortable when the cam models start policing the other models out there. I feel like your all tattle tales or rats. If this was prison you'd of had your asses handed to you by now.

Is there no comraderie among us?

Unfortunately, it happens. What we do is HIGHLY competitive. Some girls don't like other girls and they don't want those girls succeeding. It's sad.

BadBitch
06-20-2018, 04:46 PM
This doesn't affect you personally. If she's breaking the rules and actually exchanging info with people, then she will get banned at some point. I know girls who got banned for talking about Western Union or giving phone numbers. Just because we don't see girls getting suspended, doesn't mean they are not. And again, you can't say for sure you know what she's doing. Maybe she's messing around. You legitimately saw her saying: let's meet at Walmart on Street 123, at 8:30 PM? I assume not.

Some girls do extreme things, some girls don't even get naked, that doesn't mean ALL customers think we are all the same, copy pasted. It's in your power to educate your clients, regardless of other camgirls do.

And SM position varies on multiple reasons, but no 1 it's money. Some girls just had some good years on the website and they are still high.

It actually DOES affect me personally because I am VERY strict about customers talking about meeting in my room. So, when Model A starts saying, "Sure, I'll meet you! Come to Bumblefuck, VA", then guys will think that we are ALL allowed to meet.

I have had guys come in and ask to meet then I tell them that I won't and that the site doesn't permit it, they then say, "Well, Model A meets people".

So, yes, this affects me personally because the men from Model A's room will now come into our rooms and be pushy about meeting.

DeepThoughts
06-20-2018, 04:47 PM
so are you saying that just because someone is part of this industry we should automatically have their backs? I totally disagree. Particularly in the wake of fosta/sesta. I'm paranoid as shit that our site could be shut down at any moment, and it's certainly not helping the chances of the site staying active if there are front page girls getting away with soliciting meetups. If enough of that happens the site could be seen as promoting prostitution and get shut down. I'm not going to support a girl for pulling that shit and potentially putting all of our jobs/incomes on the line. I don't care about girls breaking other rules anymore, but I do care about them breaking this particular one.

Obviously Im not making blanket statements about anything like that. Calling out other cam models here or allowing yourself to get upset about what other cam models are doing in their own room isnt worth the stress and its not going to stop FOSTA/SESTA rules from shutting down the site if that is whats gonna happen. I understand that your paranoid. Any of us who understand this shit coming down on us right now are paranoid about it all cause its serious and they seem hell bent on closing us down but we still need to stand together and try to achieve success rather then tear others down. You dont have to support the behavior BUT this forum is about supporting the individual. That is why we come here, we need to gather with those who understand us best.

euro_princess
06-20-2018, 05:27 PM
It actually DOES affect me personally because I am VERY strict about customers talking about meeting in my room. So, when Model A starts saying, "Sure, I'll meet you! Come to Bumblefuck, VA", then guys will think that we are ALL allowed to meet.

I have had guys come in and ask to meet then I tell them that I won't and that the site doesn't permit it, they then say, "Well, Model A meets people".

So, yes, this affects me personally because the men from Model A's room will now come into our rooms and be pushy about meeting.

I still have my opinion that it's in your hands to educate and pick/filter your audience and show them your way. People ask me all the time to do extreme anal or pissing or fisting and so on. That doesn't mean I have to, that doesn't mean I blame the girls who work that way, even if they break the rules. I don't care what other people do, I have no control, no power, so I let them be. I mind my own business and focus on converting my guests into customers.
I can always say no, that's my choice, that's my style of working. I have other fishes to catch, I'm not interested in convincing somebody why I don't cater to that fantasy. It's cool, I don't want clients who expect girls to meet up, I would rather shove a dildo and put on a show. I expect my customers to have common sense and know why I'm not interested. And it's not even related to laws, rules or other political things, it's about safety!
Those who don't get it, they are free to leave the room, SM has over 1K models at a time.

Being carefree was always better for me. Nothing is fair and honestly, it's not my job to supervise models! If SM ever shuts down, it's their fucking fault, for not properly managing it. Everybody breaks rules in everything, even serious competitions. You, as a player can't control what other players do, so let the staff worry with that. Just focus and play your best game.

BadBitch
06-20-2018, 06:14 PM
I still have my opinion that it's in your hands to educate and pick/filter your audience and show them your way. People ask me all the time to do extreme anal or pissing or fisting and so on. That doesn't mean I have to, that doesn't mean I blame the girls who work that way, even if they break the rules. I don't care what other people do, I have no control, no power, so I let them be. I mind my own business and focus on converting my guests into customers.
I can always say no, that's my choice, that's my style of working. I have other fishes to catch, I'm not interested in convincing somebody why I don't cater to that fantasy. It's cool, I don't want clients who expect girls to meet up, I would rather shove a dildo and put on a show. I expect my customers to have common sense and know why I'm not interested. And it's not even related to laws, rules or other political things, it's about safety!
Those who don't get it, they are free to leave the room, SM has over 1K models at a time.

Being carefree was always better for me. Nothing is fair and honestly, it's not my job to supervise models! If SM ever shuts down, it's their fucking fault, for not properly managing it. Everybody breaks rules in everything, even serious competitions. You, as a player can't control what other players do, so let the staff worry with that. Just focus and play your best game.

And I still have my opinion. When I have to click on a box each and every time prior to logging in about not meeting, I will strictly enforce those rules in my room. EVERY model should do the same. Also, I was actually more annoyed with you telling someone to "chill out". Just like you said in your response - you are entitled to your opinion, the original poster is entitled to hers.

MissCavalli
06-20-2018, 10:30 PM
Problems to log into streamate with smbroadcast... can't start it!!

Halo88
06-21-2018, 04:47 AM
OK time for me to vent.

10-25 guys are in my free chat typing away, then all of them mysteriously disappear- at the same time. But then I look up at my potentials and it consistently stays at around 50 or more people.

I wait for a while, people trickle back into my free chat and disappear. But that potential number just keeps rising or stays consistent.

Can anyone tell me how this is possible?

It makes no sense that viewers with no accounts can stare at all day, issue free- but logged in members who want to spend can't.

If a "connection" issue is happening, wouldn't the potentials number drop also?

This does not happen every day, but I have had this issue occasionally for months now, and it is starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

I'm curious to know if any of you are having the same thing happen?

Glamourmilf
06-21-2018, 07:52 AM
OK time for me to vent.

10-25 guys are in my free chat typing away, then all of them mysteriously disappear- at the same time. But then I look up at my potentials and it consistently stays at around 50 or more people.

I wait for a while, people trickle back into my free chat and disappear. But that potential number just keeps rising or stays consistent.

Can anyone tell me how this is possible?

It makes no sense that viewers with no accounts can stare at all day, issue free- but logged in members who want to spend can't.

If a "connection" issue is happening, wouldn't the potentials number drop also?

This does not happen every day, but I have had this issue occasionally for months now, and it is starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

I'm curious to know if any of you are having the same thing happen?
It's been happening to me.
I wrote about it just the other day in the sm complaining thread.

BadBitch
06-21-2018, 08:06 AM
It's been happening to me.
I wrote about it just the other day in the sm complaining thread.

Yes. I remember when you wrote about this. It happens to me ALL the time. When they leave, they just vanish. Some will say, "User Connection Issue". Some will say, "Unknown".

Fucking glitches.

Marina Starr
06-21-2018, 11:23 AM
Had no idea there was a contest for today and tomorrow.

http://i66.tinypic.com/51wuur.jpg

DahliaSimone
06-21-2018, 12:18 PM
Had no idea there was a contest for today and tomorrow.

http://i66.tinypic.com/51wuur.jpg

I guess that explains why i just went 10 minutes without a dude even coming in my room....Cam Goddess, please let some desperate fucks hit up my Indy sites. I may have to wait til later to deal with SM

Halo88
06-21-2018, 01:15 PM
It's been happening to me.
I wrote about it just the other day in the sm complaining thread.

I thought this is the complain thread lol.

It just amazes me that when these "glitches" happen- potentials who are not logged in can creepily stare all day, but logged in members can't stay connected. Makes no sense.

Violet_Z
06-21-2018, 07:49 PM
Well I guess there is no money on SM to be made tonight. No one will even talk to me...

Off to another site! Yay MFC!

kendallkushxo
06-21-2018, 10:24 PM
I sat through a whole hour in free chat the day before the contest started. Also streamate was doing this weird thing where when I initiated a gold show the whole chat would freeze I’d hear people come into my room, tip me but I couldn’t see who was doing it and the tip counter was frozen.

It was tripping me out.

kendallkushxo
06-21-2018, 10:25 PM
People tell me all the time on streamate I shouldn’t have the money I make on there. Your goal shouldn’t be that high, your rates shouldn’t be that high.

I remember I got tipped 100$ and someone in the chat was likd really dude why did you do that