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DeepThoughts
06-22-2018, 03:51 AM
Rarely do I get this kind of stuff but when I do I put my rates up for that particular person. A flash now costs double and if you take me private or exclusive I require a 50$ tip before I start anything :D They are just broke ass and bitching cause they cant afford you.

If a client ever comes in and questions another clients tip to me that is amazing cause it always makes the other guys rush to my defense and they all tip me MORE! Im untrollable! Trolls just equal better pay days to me.

Glamourmilf
06-22-2018, 07:08 AM
I thought this is the complain thread lol.

It just amazes me that when these "glitches" happen- potentials who are not logged in can creepily stare all day, but logged in members can't stay connected. Makes no sense.

Exactly, a million times.
I now blame it on the aliens, to save my sanity.:alien::alien:
Because if I thought SM was doing it purposely,.......
I would lose my shit.

DeepThoughts
06-22-2018, 08:36 AM
^^ Its definitely Aliens. Greylians to be specific. They had a deal with the government to only do it to a few cam models but they broke it and now they do it to us all. The Government tries to distract us from the truth using things like fosta and sesta but thats just so you wont see that its aliens messing with our streams and kicking people out of our rooms. Its also why we never hear from SM on these issues. They are powerless and have been threatened to keep quiet. I heard someone spotted a man in black visiting SM HQ just last week!

Erika_Xstacy
06-22-2018, 10:58 AM
^^ Its definitely Aliens. Greylians to be specific. They had a deal with the government to only do it to a few cam models but they broke it and now they do it to us all. The Government tries to distract us from the truth using things like fosta and sesta but thats just so you wont see that its aliens messing with our streams and kicking people out of our rooms. Its also why we never hear from SM on these issues. They are powerless and have been threatened to keep quiet. I heard someone spotted a man in black visiting SM HQ just last week!

Lmfao I can see this being true and it being a joke.
Which one?
I just woke up

DeepThoughts
06-22-2018, 01:58 PM
:D .....................

BadBitch
06-22-2018, 04:24 PM
I'm seriously thinking that everyone fucking hates me on this fucking site. I'm sitting here with a smile on my face, but I'm hurting so bad on the inside. Guys just coming and going.

Erika_Xstacy
06-22-2018, 05:06 PM
It’s comforting when sites just say “it’s june, vacations, blah blah”

It’s not you

It’s the customer base right now.
I believe
Men that can buy shows can buy a life aka vacation
In the meantime “show ass” “you fucking ass bitch!”
So yeah- summer sucks ass it’s not any of us

StellaPurr
06-22-2018, 09:29 PM
The summer is shitty for me too. If i put the time in I usually do consistently decent but the last few shifts have been nothing but freeloaders /time wasters. My regs are nowhere to be found! I know they aren't gone forever and they'll come back but I guess I'll have to work other eggies in the meantime and step the hell up.

Serena113
06-23-2018, 02:25 AM
I rarely have to get out the banhammer, but I had to do it twice today and raise my rates as an asshole deterrent. And C2C kept glitching on the polite, generous ones. Fun times. I had to keep reminding myself that it's not me, it's just summer. And that contest time is coming up.

None of us should be taking any of this bs personally, but we're humans, so sometimes that's easier said than done. Log off and do something nice for yourself if it starts to wear on you too much. Remember: you are not the problem, and this too shall pass!

Glamourmilf
06-23-2018, 06:05 AM
^^ Its definitely Aliens. Greylians to be specific. They had a deal with the government to only do it to a few cam models but they broke it and now they do it to us all. The Government tries to distract us from the truth using things like fosta and sesta but thats just so you wont see that its aliens messing with our streams and kicking people out of our rooms. Its also why we never hear from SM on these issues. They are powerless and have been threatened to keep quiet. I heard someone spotted a man in black visiting SM HQ just last week!

Yes. I just met the new owner of Streamate.
50050
Handsome isn't he?

And the new customer50051

And my new persona on cam, with my new decor.

What do you ladies think?50052
50053

BadBitch
06-23-2018, 06:56 AM
It’s comforting when sites just say “it’s june, vacations, blah blah”

It’s not you

It’s the customer base right now.
I believe
Men that can buy shows can buy a life aka vacation
In the meantime “show ass” “you fucking ass bitch!”
So yeah- summer sucks ass it’s not any of us

Ugh. I'm PMSing, so I'm emotional and taking everything personally.

Since next week is a week-long fucking contest, I won't be logging into SM. I need to protect my sanity.

DahliaSimone
06-23-2018, 11:28 AM
Last summer I took off from Streamate until fall hit again, and it was glorious....but this was also before the big meltdown on CMD and my traffic was enough there to get me through, in combination with a few more indie sites. This summer I'm gonna trudge through it as my traffic elsewhere is significantly lower than it was a year ago, but im def. making about 1/4 of what I make weekly on SM during peak seasons...and its SO much harder for me to stay the fuck on. I find myself taking frequent, huge breaks during my shift because the quiet drives me nuts and I get tired of greeting 100 dudes in a row who dont say shit back. Def. not looking forward to contest week next week.....

minniesoporno
06-23-2018, 01:10 PM
People tell me all the time on streamate I shouldn’t have the money I make on there. Your goal shouldn’t be that high, your rates shouldn’t be that high.

I remember I got tipped 100$ and someone in the chat was likd really dude why did you do that

I find that since there are more online community about camming the insecurities of everyone is the loudest.

like damn, log on make your money and live a life, but for some reason that is the hardest for people to do. I guess people want to make thins more difficult and miserable for themselves worrying about things they can not control. when things are SUPER fucking simple. of log on make your money log off, live your life.

I raised my rates yes at first it was a big mindset shift of doing it, but the only way to get it was to know i am worth it and stick with it. the whole stick and stay and get your pay.

Henry Ford if you think you can't , or if you think you can. you are right.

new potential regular cam in my room had a username I original thought was bogus hit tipped $50 and left then end of that week the dude got me in a pre-block 1 hour session. I was floored and it shut up a lot of my BS non sense beliefs that were clearly fuel but negative chatter.

The honestly if just log on make my money log off, and live my life I wouldn't hear it at all.

sometimes I wonder if these online community are causing more damage then good.

Marina Starr
06-23-2018, 01:14 PM
ORDERED. Just in time for whole week contest.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2mfiyrc.jpg

anonamiss
06-23-2018, 08:01 PM
ORDERED. Just in time for whole week contest.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2mfiyrc.jpg

ha, I want this on a pair of panties...

Marina Starr
06-23-2018, 08:10 PM
Get it girl! Message the seller and ask if they'd custom made the panties for you!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-I-REALLY-DONT-CARE-DO-YOU-Trump-XS-3XL-T-shirts-Women-V-neck/223028980850?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=521837941795&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

ha, I want this on a pair of panties...

JoyKitten
06-23-2018, 11:37 PM
so are you saying that just because someone is part of this industry we should automatically have their backs? I totally disagree. Particularly in the wake of fosta/sesta. I'm paranoid as shit that our site could be shut down at any moment, and it's certainly not helping the chances of the site staying active if there are front page girls getting away with soliciting meetups. If enough of that happens the site could be seen as promoting prostitution and get shut down. I'm not going to support a girl for pulling that shit and potentially putting all of our jobs/incomes on the line. I don't care about girls breaking other rules anymore, but I do care about them breaking this particular one.

Thank you!
Yes, we're working for a US based company in Seattle, so the fucked-up US government can do a smack down, force the company to close (while the issue winds it's way through court & appeals)

If you're paying attention you'll observe that Streamate is SERIOUS about the models AND THE CUSTOMERS not arranging hook-ups, meeting up or sharing contact information. At the bottom of the customer chat feed it now tells customers, "Please do not share contact information with the performers".

It really couldn't be clearer. We now have to agree every time we sign-in that we will not discuss contacting customers. Streamate is attempting to comply with the goverments requirements, but unfortunately from what I'm reading here, that models aren't complying. Our livelihood could be at stake.

Report, or not report?
While I personally haven't stumbled upon any models who are breaking the rules, if I did, IMHO this issue is FAR more important than just pussy on cam or some other annoying infraction. They're jeopardizing an income & workspace I can't replace. (Streamate is the only TOP site that allows us to be blocked from the public page & available to members only)

So I beg you all, please just follow the fucking rules you'e agreed to. No joking around (what purpose does it serve to fuck with guys heads & possibly take the site down?) I liken it to the airport TSA. You'll regret joking that you have an explosive in your carry-on.

JoyKitten
06-24-2018, 12:07 AM
Yep. Summer biz is always down.

The biggest problem, kids are out of school, hangin' around home.
Kids (or wives/girlfriends/parents/roommates/work colleagues) loitering about make joining us for a good wanking nearly impossible. My logic says, guys who have people lingering around them can only peep on us, not actually take shows. So I try to be relaxed, don't fret about lots of guys but few shows. When my free chat is full of guys I announce, "Please use the heart button to add me to your favorites, so when you CAN play you can find your way back to me." Or, something along those lines. But then, my background is sales & customer service, so I'm use to selling my spiel & not closing the deal today. I go with, be nice & there's a good chance that when they can buy what I'm offering, they will.

PS:
I think cell phones have been a huge blessing to our biz. Now guys can escape to a locked bathroom, phone in hand, and can rub out a quickie with us, when it use to be they'd have to lug their laptop in there. Errr..... no, that wouldn't seem at all suspicious, now would it? ROFL

JoyKitten
06-24-2018, 01:09 AM
OK time for me to vent.

10-25 guys are in my free chat typing away, then all of them mysteriously disappear- at the same time. But then I look up at my potentials and it consistently stays at around 50 or more people.

I wait for a while, people trickle back into my free chat and disappear. But that potential number just keeps rising or stays consistent.

Can anyone tell me how this is possible?

It makes no sense that viewers with no accounts can stare at all day, issue free- but logged in members who want to spend can't.

If a "connection" issue is happening, wouldn't the potentials number drop also?

This does not happen every day, but I have had this issue occasionally for months now, and it is starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

I'm curious to know if any of you are having the same thing happen?

Here are several reasons why members in our free chat area pop in & out but the potential members stay consistant.

I've found it a disturbing trend that many models bounce, or even block guys, for simply being in their free chat. I think it's created an SM customer culture of popping in to see what we've got going on, but if they're not 'feeling it' with us pop right back out again lest they be bounced or blocked perminently from our room.

The 'potential customer' can watch us all day in our public free chat with no chance of being bounced. So they just park there, enjoying the relaxed atmospher of watching, deciding if they like what they see & hear, whether they'd like to sign-in and take us for a paid session. Back in the day, that's what they use to do while IN our free chat. Now they've been trained not to sit there too long or they'll be kicked out if they do.

I don't bounce anyone from my room for lingering, hanging out with me. I view them all as future customers. I ask them to add me to their favorites list.

And I'd never bounce them for not responding. Sheesh! The VAST MAJORITY of guys are now watching us from their phones, rather than a PC, and not necessarily with a headset on. Between the trouble hearing us barking commands "Talk to me guys or I'll boot you from my room!", and trying to type a reply on the tiny screen SM gives them to work with, it's a wonder any of them reply at all!

Have you done your homework, taken a show using your phone, so you know what the customers are dealing with? I not only sample the site from my phone, but when I'm with someone who has a different phone or tablet I ask if I can look at Streamate on it, so I can see how it looks & operates for our customers. It's been an eye opener, and given me compassion for what my customers user experience is. I know it's made me a better, more successful model.

And one more insight. The profile you see on your work PC, if a guy is on his phone, for the most part NONE of your profile shows up. So if a guys does manage to type out, "How big are your tits" or "Anal?" Rather than answering him with, "It's in my profile, read it". Instead, just answer his question! If he's on a phone, more than likely there is no profile. He has nothing to read, you just seem incredibly unfriendly or even rude. If telling the entire room your bra size is too much trouble, or pleasantly saying you don't do anal is too much for you, then your business is going to suffer and you'll be wondering why.

And for guys who have the luxury of watching us from an actual PC, they will have our profile to read, photos to look at, free videos to watch and pages of comments to read. Doing any of those things closes their browser window & take them out of our room. They may be popping in & out of our room as they click back & forth on all the different things we have posted on our profile to entice them into a show......... but then we bounce or block them before they can actual spend money with us! Bouncing someone who's interested in taking a session with us is a bad business practice.

Those are my insights into what we all deal with, and possibly why.

Marina Starr
06-24-2018, 06:37 AM
These SAME scavengers popping in and out all the time, every time you're on, so excessive to the point that you memorized their names are not having technical issues. They're doing so hoping to catch you show something for free. To me that's loitering, it's harassment.
Some of these habitual scavengers have been popping in and out for weeks, months and years are STILL having technical issues? LOL.

When I take charge of my room and regulate how it how I see fit, that means blocking and kicking when it's justified, my income rise. WHY? Because guys enjoy themselves more when they are respecting me and my boundaries = more spending. Blocking doesn't mean less money, it simply means I don't want to do shows for those guys anyway. Not all money is good money.

I'm also bipolar so I have to set a healthy, fun working environment that's enjoyable for me and my spenders.

KatM
06-24-2018, 07:13 AM
You both right Joy & Marina, we just don't know what they actually doing there, it could be they try to find their way to my paid chat but can also be they freeload me and that I don't like, if they don't answer me I kick them out simply as I can't know if they wank there over me for free or what else. I don't see the potentials number cause I have to resize the window and the area where is listed is hidden to me.
I expect them to talk to me if they in my room otherwise I become nervous and paranoid lol thinking they record me or so.
I saw on Facebook a video with a popular Sm model that became viral, it was a compilation of extreme deepthroat scenes (probably recorded in her pvt shows) then edited with guys in shock faces watching, I was shocked myself to see that on FB and since then I am even more paranoid.

BadBitch
06-24-2018, 07:42 AM
I find that since there are more online community about camming the insecurities of everyone is the loudest.

like damn, log on make your money and live a life, but for some reason that is the hardest for people to do. I guess people want to make thins more difficult and miserable for themselves worrying about things they can not control. when things are SUPER fucking simple. of log on make your money log off, live your life.

I raised my rates yes at first it was a big mindset shift of doing it, but the only way to get it was to know i am worth it and stick with it. the whole stick and stay and get your pay.

Henry Ford if you think you can't , or if you think you can. you are right.

new potential regular cam in my room had a username I original thought was bogus hit tipped $50 and left then end of that week the dude got me in a pre-block 1 hour session. I was floored and it shut up a lot of my BS non sense beliefs that were clearly fuel but negative chatter.

The honestly if just log on make my money log off, and live my life I wouldn't hear it at all.

sometimes I wonder if these online community are causing more damage then good.

Well, this advice may be easy for you. But, not easy for a lot of these girls. And if this "online community" is causing "more harm than good", then why are you here? Seems like you have it all together and all figured it out, right?

This forum is extremely helpful. A lot of these women are very supportive.

BadBitch
06-24-2018, 07:46 AM
The SAME guys popping in and out all the time, every time you're on, so excessive to the point that you memorized their names are not having technical issues. They're doing so hoping to catch you show something for free. To me that's loitering, it's harassment.
Some of these habitual peepers have been popping in and out for weeks, months and years are STILL having technical issues? LOL.

When I take charge of my room and regulate how it how I see fit, that means blocking and kicking when it's justified, my income rise. WHY? Because guys enjoy themselves more when they are respecting me and my boundaries = more spending. Blocking doesn't mean less money, it simply means I don't want to do shows for those guys anyway. Not all money is good money.

I'm also bipolar so I have to set a healthy, fun working environment that's enjoyable for me and my spenders.

I do the same exact thing. If I start seeing the same name pop into my room five times in two or three hours, they get banned.

I'm sorry, but popping in and out excessively really bothers me and I don't have time for it. To me, that is showing that this person is just going from room to room looking for a free titty.

I also don't let guys just sit in my room and not respond to me. I want people to engage with me. When I say hello to someone and they don't answer me, I eject them. I usually say hello to them a few times and then I type it in case they don't have sound. If I get no response, they get the boot.

Marina Starr
06-24-2018, 08:37 AM
I've only blocked 811 guys so far since 2012. That's only 135 guys a year. That's very LOW. I wonder how many have other girls have blocked, LOL.

TheBrownFox
06-24-2018, 08:44 AM
@Marina @BadBitch: YES. That, and coming in my chat talking about "Stand up, pls." (I tell them "Tip 5 GOLD, please," and they leave...lmao). Saying please is not gonna change anything. You tipping me will. And they won't say hi, but they'll say "Your premium rate is 9.99??" Wow, a man who actually reads. Why, yes, my premium rate is 9.99. It's higher than exclusive, because I prefer exclusive. But if you're the type of member who just room hops looking for models who are the cheapest, and you act like you were raised by wolves where you can't even say hello, then you're probably not the customer I want anyway.

anonamiss
06-24-2018, 11:54 AM
I had a guy last night who kept trying to go into a half hour exclusive block session but didn't say a word to me in free chat. I kept saying "I'd love a show but chat with me first babe!" before rejecting his request. He came back 3 times and kept doing it. Ugh! Its like, why can't these fuckers DISCUSS the show first?! Especially before throwing down hundreds of dollars all at once. I don't get their thought process here. I want that money for sure but I'm not committing to a half hour show with a stranger without knowing what their expectations are. I've made that mistake before and it was always with guys who stay quiet til they get into the show then ask for the most extreme ridiculous taboo shit, so I block them and lose my block session money (not to mention lose whatever crowd I had in free chat.) No thanks.

DahliaSimone
06-24-2018, 01:56 PM
Ummmmm....wtf is going on today? Why have i had to tell dudes repeatedly that i am transgender? I dont understand how they are getting to my damn page without knowing.....and its fucking embarassing. I can only take so many more 'show me your pussy's followed by an eye roll and explaining that they are in the wrong room, meanwhile making me feel crappy. I'm not ashamed to be trans, but it is a brutal reminder of the huge gap between traffic for a cis girl and traffic for a trans girl.....I'm proud of who I am, but I do envy you girls and whatever SM has been pulling today is really bringing my sense of worth plummeting to the ground.

DahliaSimone
06-24-2018, 04:44 PM
Well it seems that that wasnt relegated to just SM....fucker adds me on CMD where i am CLEARLY only in the trans category....then proceeds to tell me i am gross after i tell him i am trans, due to a sneaking suspicion that his stupid ass didnt know......WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? What the fuck are these sites doing to me today?

BadBitch
06-24-2018, 08:21 PM
I've only blocked 811 guys so far since 2012. That's only 135 guys a year. That's very LOW. I wonder how many have other girls have blocked, LOL.

I think I'm at 789! Lol!

BadBitch
06-24-2018, 08:22 PM
Well it seems that that wasnt relegated to just SM....fucker adds me on CMD where i am CLEARLY only in the trans category....then proceeds to tell me i am gross after i tell him i am trans, due to a sneaking suspicion that his stupid ass didnt know......WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? What the fuck are these sites doing to me today?

HE'S gross! Fucking asshole.

Bananabunny
06-24-2018, 08:23 PM
I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...

BadBitch
06-24-2018, 08:26 PM
I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...

That's so terrible! I'm so sorry.

Erika_Xstacy
06-24-2018, 10:44 PM
Are you in the US?

anonamiss
06-25-2018, 12:20 AM
the traffic was awful tonight. the ONE very short show i got was from a guy who popped into private and said "hey you're cute! i'm new to this dating site. how does it work?"

like, are you kidding me? why are whitelabels still allowed to promote us as if we're going to meet up or date? it's totally inconsistent with the "don't meet up/exchange personal info" rule. the whitelabels need to be held accountable too, with all the new sesta/fosta shit. they shouldn't be allowed to advertise like that. why can't we be advertised for what we are: pay-for-play webcam models. not "hot horny babe who wants to fuck 2 miles away! for FREE!!11!1!"

>_<

rest of my traffic was almost all beggars or silent guys staring for several minutes before leaving and not saying a word. quite possibly my worst night on SM ever. barely made minimum wage, and that was only because i desperately accepted a low-goal top spot show that only 2 people joined.

KatM
06-25-2018, 04:09 AM
I feel violated, betrayed and robbed right now. The last payment method I've ever had is check. All banks I went in didn't accept it. The last bank I went in had a cost of 150$ off my 800$ check and 3 months to get it in my bank account. I make so little on SM already, and now my own country robs me off of my little 2k a month salary?! Goodbye Streamate!

Sigh it's time to fine another cam website that accepts wire without to ask me for more than a 50$ fee...Ever since that SESTA/FOSTA bullshit I'm spiralling back into my money problems...

I am soo sorry this happened to you, it was to be expected cause checks are NEVER a good option for non US models, it's just terrible how long it takes to get them over here then deposit them in a bank that accepts them and cash them, here it takes a month to cash out & depending on the bank the fees are high anyway but 3 months for your bank to give u the money?!? Holly Molly, that is crazy plus the huge fees!
That's why i waited for SM to give us an electronic payment option and then when Cosmo had issues i changed to Paxum as my account was still active, i just had to pay an old debt to Paxum.
I dont have a Paxum card yet but i transferred money into my local bank account as an emergency situation then Cosmo released our money from Secondary balance & i changed back to Cosmo the next weeks cause i have their card to cash out the money; now i have two payment options just for the case.
You could use Cosmo or Paxum yourself you know...

JoyKitten
06-26-2018, 07:49 AM
the traffic was awful tonight. the ONE very short show i got was from a guy who popped into private and said "hey you're cute! i'm new to this dating site. how does it work?"

like, are you kidding me? why are whitelabels still allowed to promote us as if we're going to meet up or date? it's totally inconsistent with the "don't meet up/exchange personal info" rule. the whitelabels need to be held accountable too, with all the new sesta/fosta shit. they shouldn't be allowed to advertise like that. why can't we be advertised for what we are: pay-for-play webcam models. not "hot horny babe who wants to fuck 2 miles away! for FREE!!11!1!"

>_<

rest of my traffic was almost all beggars or silent guys staring for several minutes before leaving and not saying a word. quite possibly my worst night on SM ever. barely made minimum wage, and that was only because i desperately accepted a low-goal top spot show that only 2 people joined.

Please, if anyone has guys coming into your room saying he's on a dating site, please screen capture the convo MAKing SURE THE DATE & TIME ARE IN THE PICTURE & upload it to Support. Tell Support to find out what affiliate site the guy signed-up through so they can block the affilate site.

Being proactive, helping to alert SM to the 'dating' sites is important & helps us (and those customers). SM has thousands of affiliate sites who are sending us customers, and there is no way SM can police them all. Sheesh! If they can't afford to give us LIVE HELP they certainly aren't funding an 'affiliate police'. So if we are aware of it we need to take a minute to report it.

anonamiss
06-26-2018, 11:37 AM
Please, if anyone has guys coming into your room saying he's on a dating site, please screen capture the convo MAKing SURE THE DATE & TIME ARE IN THE PICTURE & upload it to Support. Tell Support to find out what affiliate site the guy signed-up through so they can block the affilate site.

Being proactive, helping to alert SM to the 'dating' sites is important & helps us (and those customers). SM has thousands of affiliate sites who are sending us customers, and there is no way SM can police them all. Sheesh! If they can't afford to give us LIVE HELP they certainly aren't funding an 'affiliate police'. So if we are aware of it we need to take a minute to report it.

that's not a bad idea but I'm curious, does anyone here have an affiliate site? I'm just wondering what the terms/contract is like, mainly if there are spelled-out rules that say they can't advertise/promote us in certain ways. I kind of doubt it. And its not like the "click here to meet this babe" pop up ads are going to stop. They're all over tubesites.

Also, how would support even figure out what affiliate site someone came from, just based on their username/timestamp? Support is usually incompetent AF. I suppose next time it happens i can ask the customer what site he's on, then take a screencap of that conversation.

Ginnyyy
06-26-2018, 11:51 AM
I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?

JoyKitten
06-26-2018, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?

My take on this issue...
Our vids being used by affiliates to send traffic to SM is not considered a DMCA is due to our contract we all signed. The legal-ese says that SM can't be held responsible or accountable for our video stream being used around the internet. By signing-up & agreeing to work (on ANY SITE, they ALL have the same info in their contracts), our video feed & pictures can be used for advertising. Read your contract.

The exception to that is models who have always been hidden (using geo-blocking). 'Hidden models' do not appear in SM advertising..... but SM is not responsible if someone screen captures us & posts our free chat or actual shows around the web. SM had nothing to do with random pervs recording us, so they have no way to DMCA them. There's simply no way for anyone to police videos of ANY* kind being broadcast around the web, so it's one of the hazards of choosing to do online sex work.

It is my understanding that we must contact the site ourself, siting to them DMCA.... but if it's an official SM affiliate, & you're a model who has EVER BEEN WITHOUT GEO-BLOCKING then it's possible the advertising clips were produced during that time & shipped to the affiliates. That is the loophole for why SM affiliates have legitimate rights to the use of your video forever. Realizing it or not, we've agreed to it.

So until SM sends the affiliates a fresh selection of model vids for the affiliates to use, your video will be included in affiliate advertising rotation all over the internet..... forever, even after you've left camming.

Does that make sense?
If not, let me know and I'll try & be clearer.

* Any video, even vanilla feeds from Facebook, Twitter, SnapChat, etc. can be captured & re-posted in whatever way they want by these trolls! The internet is a wild, wild west of lawlessness =(

anonamiss
06-26-2018, 12:42 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw a girl asking for her SM private shows to be taken down from a site with videos who was also sending referrals to SM and the support said that they do not DMCA their affiliates so what gives?

email Liz. Support is useless. I just sent her a couple of links and she said she'd request to have them removed.

Ginnyyy
06-26-2018, 01:03 PM
You have Liz, I have Catalina :) Either way, I had a few glitches on my SM account but she was fast and helpful, which I can't say the same about the support, it's just helpful, not fast at all. They make sure to reply in exactly 48 hs.

JoyKitten
06-26-2018, 01:06 PM
that's not a bad idea but I'm curious, does anyone here have an affiliate site? I'm just wondering what the terms/contract is like, mainly if there are spelled-out rules that say they can't advertise/promote us in certain ways. I kind of doubt it. And its not like the "click here to meet this babe" pop up ads are going to stop. They're all over tubesites.

Also, how would support even figure out what affiliate site someone came from, just based on their username/timestamp? Support is usually incompetent AF. I suppose next time it happens i can ask the customer what site he's on, then take a screencap of that conversation.

I do have an affiliate site (if we have the skills to set it up through Cam Builder, we all can)

There are pages of affilate TOS (terms of service) which webmasters must abide by. But as I said, there's no 'police' going through and looking at what's been created by them. So it's up to us to bring dating sites to SM's attention.

I only work for SM as a model, & I have an affiliate site I use to drive traffic to SM, but I know enough not to screen capture video to post on my affiliate site (I wouldn't want it done to me, so I certainly honor that with my peers). And I'm not knowledgable or 'big' enough to be privy to whatever captured videos SM has available to their affiliates.

But I'm a great researcher, and I've had the balls to talk to the guy who signs our checks, so I have a pretty good understanding of how things work throughout SM.

Because every customer comes through a portal, whether they stumble upon Streamate.com on their own or click on an enticing ad, it's common business sense that EVERY customer has to be tracked & accounted for. All those webmasters have to be paid for every customer they send. Every customer has a unique customer number. So I have to believe that SOMEONE within SM has to be able to find out what portal every customer used to join the site.

You're right to question whether Support is clever enough to grasp the seriousness of the situation & send the problem to the right department. *Sigh* I don't have a lot of faith either. So maybe it's better explain it to Liz & let her forward to the proper SM department?

JoyKitten
06-26-2018, 01:57 PM
I've only blocked 811 guys so far since 2012. That's only 135 guys a year. That's very LOW. I wonder how many have other girls have blocked, LOL.

While I've been on Streamate part-time for the past 8 yrs, I've only blocked 55 people. I've got to give credit to having an extremely patient & an unflappable personality. My 20yr background is in sales & customer service requires both qualities to be successful. Believe me, compared to those jobs, being a cammodel is a breeze & without a doubt, the best gig I've ever had!

Not sure if I know how to load an image here 50060

Blovely
06-26-2018, 02:27 PM
Im using the Logitech Gaming software. 8.96 and it has the control for the over exposure. Which one are you using??

When I plugged my old cam in I was able to get the old settings

Thank you. I have the Logitech Webcam Software (lws280.exe) installed. It has exposure (the old settings) I just hate having to open the whole software and then click webcam controller > advanced settings or double click sources in OBS > configure video any and every time I need to adjust my settings. The separate software....Logitech Camera Settings only gives you the webcam settings window aka no extra steps. I'm impatient and like things to happen as quick as possible, I tend to look for faster solutions even if the tasks is very simple.....it annoys me when I have to take extra steps when in my head I see a faster route like I don't want to go from A to B to C if I can just go from A to C.

Anyways I had LCS pinned to my taskbar so that I didn't have to take any extra steps just to get to the settings. I restored my computer and accidentally deleted the LCS software, when I downloaded it again it was a different version which excludes exposure.... guess that version is for the Brio. I googled but I couldn't find the version I previously had. I had to go back to opening the settings the long way and it was getting on my nerves. I just found the old verson today (http://support.logitech.com/en_us/downloads - https://download01.logi.com/web/ftp/pub/techsupport/cameras/Webcams/LogiCamSettings_1.1.87.0.exe). Before finding it I realized that the webcam controller window as well as the webcam settings window can be pinned (faceplam) so now I don't even need (and technically never needed) the software.

Ms Echo
06-26-2018, 07:16 PM
I never post and I generally lurk to keep up to date with stuff but today I have to post this somewhere. I was about to get online, did my prep, was feeling great today and come to the horror that my account can't be found in the database. I'm currently freaking the f out. I've been with streamate for years and just had my account closed due to the new rules. Apparently I violated the "fraudulent activity" policy which is bs cause I ban guys the moment they even try getting me to reveal personal details about myself and or "ask to meet up" nonsense since the new policy was enacted. I depend on this income. I've already emailed Liz. I don't know if there's anything she can do. I'm not even allowed to create new accounts now. This all started with a simple request to support, like I should of just emailed Liz from the start. I'm an idiot.

I want to cry, still kinda in shock atm. I need somewhere to vent. I haven't had any warnings or past issues with my account in terms of site policy. This has to be an error on their part. This is the last thing I needed. My life has been turned upside down in recent years. I'm also trans/intersex, struggling with my healthcare and like holy shit, I'm so screwed if this isn't fixed. Fuck fosta...Like I debated on even posting this..I hope no one else gets screwed like this, this isn't right.

seicento
06-26-2018, 08:15 PM
^ I had my old account closed because of a fraudster. It was not my fault that a dude was creating several accounts doing chargebacks. I mean, they should have known, not me. Anyway, they gave it back to me.

Then I woke up to a closed account again, one day. This time was a mistake on their end. LOL.

What I'm trying to say is that they will give it back to you eventually, if you didn't break any rules.

Ms Echo
06-26-2018, 09:15 PM
Thats a massive relief! Thank you!

I hope they do but if not, a new site it is. Its a rebranding opportunity in hindsight. As tough as the next few weeks are going to be, the sooner I'm camming somewhere else the better.

Edit: Cause of the summer slowdown I lowered my premium rate, lowest I've gone in a long time. I'd hate to think that this is why this happened. Maybe I attracted that type of member. The cheapo scum. But I noticed a decent spike in traffic so I kept it at that rate and it did well for me.

BadBitch
06-27-2018, 05:02 PM
Thats a massive relief! Thank you!

I hope they do but if not, a new site it is. Its a rebranding opportunity in hindsight. As tough as the next few weeks are going to be, the sooner I'm camming somewhere else the better.

Edit: Cause of the summer slowdown I lowered my premium rate, lowest I've gone in a long time. I'd hate to think that this is why this happened. Maybe I attracted that type of member. The cheapo scum. But I noticed a decent spike in traffic so I kept it at that rate and it did well for me.

How did you know that your account was closed due to fraudulent activity?

Man, that sucks. What did Liz say?

MsJess
06-27-2018, 05:12 PM
This happened once to me because i had my account for such a long time and my passport picture was very different becouse i had nose surgery lol so i look a bit different and they thought it was fraud, i freaked out and wrote liz! i almost had a breakdown until liz activated my account again the next day


I never post and I generally lurk to keep up to date with stuff but today I have to post this somewhere. I was about to get online, did my prep, was feeling great today and come to the horror that my account can't be found in the database. I'm currently freaking the f out. I've been with streamate for years and just had my account closed due to the new rules. Apparently I violated the "fraudulent activity" policy which is bs cause I ban guys the moment they even try getting me to reveal personal details about myself and or "ask to meet up" nonsense since the new policy was enacted. I depend on this income. I've already emailed Liz. I don't know if there's anything she can do. I'm not even allowed to create new accounts now. This all started with a simple request to support, like I should of just emailed Liz from the start. I'm an idiot.

I want to cry, still kinda in shock atm. I need somewhere to vent. I haven't had any warnings or past issues with my account in terms of site policy. This has to be an error on their part. This is the last thing I needed. My life has been turned upside down in recent years. I'm also trans/intersex, struggling with my healthcare and like holy shit, I'm so screwed if this isn't fixed. Fuck fosta...Like I debated on even posting this..I hope no one else gets screwed like this, this isn't right.

Blovely
06-27-2018, 07:14 PM
Is anyone having issues with lagging today? My stream is usually only like 3-8 seconds behind and today its lagging like crazy and its like 2 minutes behind.