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Panthera
06-27-2018, 11:01 PM
I dont even care if I am lagging when I only have 1-2 guy...in POTENTIAL MEMBERS!! lmao. Normally I have over 20, on a slow day! This is the slowest Ive ever seen on here, hands down!! I am on the upper part of the first page. Should I just go back to sleep?? lmao.
Oh and by the way, the other day I did have a serious lagging issue, too. So I guess it happens again.
Panthera
06-27-2018, 11:10 PM
Oh I looked now and discovered something even more interesting! The placement is ALL OVER the place! I am now on the 1rst page, now on the 5h, and now...nowhere to be found! I also see other girls that are top of page 1 and then on the 3rd page. wtf?? Am I going crazy or is anyone else seeing that as well?
kamiliam
06-28-2018, 12:47 AM
I have been very kind to SM with their new placement and how little it really matters for earnings, but how the hell am I on the top two rows not logged in with high potential members but not showing up at all in my member account? like really? fml I don't care if random creeps think I am top model and or hot if they can't find me once they sign up. Hoping this is a glitch; been seeing others saying similar things, but this is a shitty glitch
edited to add I am top 3 in my main category? Still not on main page after being logged in for 20 minutes.
euro_princess
06-28-2018, 01:59 AM
SM had issues with frame drops the last hours. If your frames drop, your position does too. Check "My Ranking" all the time to make sure you don't have your placement affected.
I went from first rows of page 1 to last rows of page 2 because of this today. I was wondering why I had barely any people in the chat. It fixed itself at some point.
I use the SMbroadcaster and I could see how my frames were messed up, in the activitaty box. My drop was at 70-80%. Normally should be 0.
kamiliam
06-28-2018, 02:06 AM
SM had issues with frame drops the last hours. If your frames drop, your position does too. Check "My Ranking" all the time to make sure you don't have your placement affected.
I went from first rows of page 1 to last rows of page 2 because of this today. I was wondering why I had barely any people in the chat. It fixed itself at some point.
I use the SMbroadcaster and I could see how my frames were messed up, in the activitaty box. My drop was at 70-80%. Normally should be 0.
I personally have had no frame drop issues. Once again I show up normal in my categories, just nowhere on the main pages I can't even find myself on page 3.
Ms Echo
06-28-2018, 02:00 PM
How did you know that your account was closed due to fraudulent activity?
Man, that sucks. What did Liz say?
They said it in email but it felt like an automated response. As in just a general you violated this rule and now you're banned forever and that was it, no indication of what really was the problem. According to Liz, there was some questioning about my original id/headshot pic. Like MsJess I've had my account for years and barely resemble my original pics.
This happened once to me because i had my account for such a long time and my passport picture was very different becouse i had nose surgery lol so i look a bit different and they thought it was fraud, i freaked out and wrote liz! i almost had a breakdown until liz activated my account again the next day
I'm glad I'm not the only one, like this is exactly my situation. All is well though, Liz fixed it! On some level its validating? I guess SM recognizes how much hrt has changed my face over the years but still that was pretty scary though and why I need to finally make more eggs.
TrifilinCamHo
06-28-2018, 07:44 PM
Holy fuuuuuck I am so done giving Streamate any more of my time, attention and energy for the week. The placement glitch is just beyond wack and so incredibly frustrating to deal with (I'm not even showing up as being online most of the time), C2C is straight up not working, and the lag is real tonight especially. I generally enjoy participating in the "Best 3 out of 7" contest because it really motivates me to push myself and cash out, but I honestly don't think I've ever felt this drained and miserable over a work week since I started camming. I always force myself to hit a baseline minimum goal but I'm stopping like $116 short of that and just saying fuck it until Saturday because I seriously cannot mentally handle another second of this. I legit am averaging like a whole 75-80% less than what I usually clear hourly this week. So awful.
Marina Starr
06-30-2018, 08:00 AM
What the actual fuck is up with placement this week?! I am usually #1 under my niche now I'm down to #12, it's all over the place.
CamgirlsRockTheWeb
06-30-2018, 10:33 PM
Models that had good spots knocked down.
Models never heard of knocked up, noticing the ehum 2.99
There are some that never suffer changes but the rest that provide Streamate employees their pay and benefits don’t really matter to them
List based on reports from current and former employees. It may not be complete.
Legend:
Checkmark Employer Verified No Data
Insurance, Health & Wellness
Health InsuranceDental InsuranceFlexible Spending Account (FSA)Vision InsuranceHealth Savings Account (HSA)Life InsuranceSupplemental Life InsuranceDisability InsuranceOccupational Accident InsuranceHealth Care On-SiteMental Health CareRetiree Health & MedicalAccidental Death & Dismemberment Insurance
Financial & Retirement
Pension Plan401K PlanRetirement PlanEmployee Stock Purchase PlanPerformance BonusStock OptionsEquity Incentive PlanSupplemental Workers' CompensationCharitable Gift Matching
Family & Parenting
Maternity & Paternity LeaveCheckmarkWork From Home (1)Fertility AssistanceDependent CareAdoption AssistanceChildcareReduced or Flexible HoursMilitary LeaveFamily Medical LeaveUnpaid Extended Leave
Vacation & Time Off
Vacation & Paid Time OffSick DaysPaid HolidaysVolunteer Time OffSabbaticalBereavement Leave
Perks & Discounts
Employee DiscountFree Lunch or SnacksEmployee Assistance ProgramGym MembershipCommuter Checks & AssistancePet Friendly WorkplaceMobile Phone DiscountCompany CarCompany Social EventsTravel ConciergeLegal Assistance
Professional Support
Diversity ProgramJob TrainingProfessional DevelopmentApprenticeship ProgramTuition Assistance
Fucking goddam ridiculous
Assuming a person has to be salaried employee for professional support.
Btw: YoU gUYZ kNoW mE. , we also know Streamate throws models to the curb when we toot the mothsfuckn horn.
Toot toot bitch
CamgirlsRockTheWeb
06-30-2018, 10:58 PM
Actual Support
Higher %
Must be a lot to ask.
Here’s a vibe! Necklace! Omg a fucking fake gold necklace! I had one in elementary school, so cool.Enjoy! Those TShirts! Worth that 65% I’m going to bust my ass to possibly place and slapped in the face at the same time.
As they laugh to the bank
What the actual fuck is up with placement this week?! I am usually #1 under my niche now I'm down to #12, it's all over the place.
Hi, thanks for your post. How can I see where - on what page - rank am I? I am new in this, thanks.
DeepThoughts
07-01-2018, 05:10 AM
You need to look for yourself by going to streamate.com and scrolling down the pages until you find yourself OR you can search yourself by category that you put as your "attributes" Like milf, cuckhold, fitness etc. Also you need to make sure you are searching your area correct area from the drop down at the top
BUT be warned cause its not a simple design where you can determine your worth from being on the top row of the first page or being on a lower placement because they have an algorithm that will show you models based on what you have looked for or at in the past. So if you always look for BBW then next time you sign in your first page will prominently show BBW models. That being said if you have ever gone to the streamate site and watched other models that are nothing like you then those models and similar ones will show up for you on the first page. If you went there and only ever looked at yourself you would probably find yourself on the first row every time.
Its not really worth watching. If you want to do well on SM then do well with every single customer you get. Ask him to rate you 5 stars, leave you tips, check your videos and leave comments and tags. Those little things do matter! Treat every customer well because they are the ones that put money in your bank at the end of the day.
You can check your rating on your home screen. Its in one of the drop down menus at the top but it just lets you know how fast your system/internet is running, your hours, and stars but really doesnt do much more then that.
DeepThoughts
07-01-2018, 05:29 AM
Models that had good spots knocked down.
Models never heard of knocked up, noticing the ehum 2.99
There are some that never suffer changes but the rest that provide Streamate employees their pay and benefits don’t really matter to them
List based on reports from current and former employees. It may not be complete.
Legend:
Checkmark Employer Verified No Data
Insurance, Health & Wellness
Health InsuranceDental InsuranceFlexible Spending Account (FSA)Vision InsuranceHealth Savings Account (HSA)Life InsuranceSupplemental Life InsuranceDisability InsuranceOccupational Accident InsuranceHealth Care On-SiteMental Health CareRetiree Health & MedicalAccidental Death & Dismemberment Insurance
Financial & Retirement
Pension Plan401K PlanRetirement PlanEmployee Stock Purchase PlanPerformance BonusStock OptionsEquity Incentive PlanSupplemental Workers' CompensationCharitable Gift Matching
Family & Parenting
Maternity & Paternity LeaveCheckmarkWork From Home (1)Fertility AssistanceDependent CareAdoption AssistanceChildcareReduced or Flexible HoursMilitary LeaveFamily Medical LeaveUnpaid Extended Leave
Vacation & Time Off
Vacation & Paid Time OffSick DaysPaid HolidaysVolunteer Time OffSabbaticalBereavement Leave
Perks & Discounts
Employee DiscountFree Lunch or SnacksEmployee Assistance ProgramGym MembershipCommuter Checks & AssistancePet Friendly WorkplaceMobile Phone DiscountCompany CarCompany Social EventsTravel ConciergeLegal Assistance
Professional Support
Diversity ProgramJob TrainingProfessional DevelopmentApprenticeship ProgramTuition Assistance
Fucking goddam ridiculous
Assuming a person has to be salaried employee for professional support.
Btw: YoU gUYZ kNoW mE. , we also know Streamate throws models to the curb when we toot the mothsfuckn horn.
Toot toot bitch
I dont understand why your mad about this. If they are doing well its because we are all doing well and people deserve to have these benefits available to them. Also it allows them to hire people who are at the top of their game (looking at you Liz!) and that is a benefit to us all!
How would you feel if you found out that SM employees were paid just slightly more then minimum wage, had no benefits and were forced to work long hours with no overtime available and forced to work in terrible working conditions?? Would that make you feel better? I hope no! Because then we would all know that the guy at the top was fucking his employees to get more of the cream for himself and you would probably find yourself out of work because companies like that do not last!!!
The fact that their employees do so well means not only that SM is succeeding but that they have a good future outlook!
Stop worrying about what percentage they take. First of all you agree'd to it so if you dont like it leave. Go work else where! Secondly you only think of it because you are seeing the net income and subtracting from that. This is a really dumb mindset. You should break this mindset and realize that EVERY COMPANY IN THE FUCKING WORLD IS TAKING A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE NET INCOME! That is how business is!!! Why do you think you should be entitled to a bigger percentage?? Are you driving traffic to their site? Obviously no because if you were you would be getting 65% not 35%. Are you handling maintenance on the website? Dealing with customer payments? Paying for charge backs? Im going to stop here because Im already ranting and Ive already said my peace.
I have seen like 20 or more models break out on their own and start their own webcam company where the models are paid a higher percentage and I can name ONE that is still around and they dont offer the same services to you that SM does. Most of these models foolishly believed that there is soooooooooooo much money to be had in web camming that they could get by on less and pay the models more. They had the same short sighted outlook as you but the truth of the matter is when you Pay more you offer less. BUT If you want to go work for one of those companies you can. Its your choice!
Marina Starr
07-01-2018, 06:23 AM
You can go on cammodels.com and look for yourself when you are online. You can also see where you are under your category by clicking your category on the left.
I would be under shaved pussy.
Hi, thanks for your post. How can I see where - on what page - rank am I? I am new in this, thanks.
CamgirlsRockTheWeb
07-01-2018, 09:38 AM
I dont understand why your mad about this. If they are doing well its because we are all doing well and people deserve to have these benefits available to them. Also it allows them to hire people who are at the top of their game (looking at you Liz!) and that is a benefit to us all!
How would you feel if you found out that SM employees were paid just slightly more then minimum wage, had no benefits and were forced to work long hours with no overtime available and forced to work in terrible working conditions?? Would that make you feel better? I hope no! Because then we would all know that the guy at the top was fucking his employees to get more of the cream for himself and you would probably find yourself out of work because companies like that do not last!!!
The fact that their employees do so well means not only that SM is succeeding but that they have a good future outlook!
Stop worrying about what percentage they take. First of all you agree'd to it so if you dont like it leave. Go work else where! Secondly you only think of it because you are seeing the net income and subtracting from that. This is a really dumb mindset. You should break this mindset and realize that EVERY COMPANY IN THE FUCKING WORLD IS TAKING A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE NET INCOME! That is how business is!!! Why do you think you should be entitled to a bigger percentage?? Are you driving traffic to their site? Obviously no because if you were you would be getting 65% not 35%. Are you handling maintenance on the website? Dealing with customer payments? Paying for charge backs? Im going to stop here because Im already ranting and Ive already said my peace.
I have seen like 20 or more models break out on their own and start their own webcam company where the models are paid a higher percentage and I can name ONE that is still around and they dont offer the same services to you that SM does. Most of these models foolishly believed that there is soooooooooooo much money to be had in web camming that they could get by on less and pay the models more. They had the same short sighted outlook as you but the truth of the matter is when you Pay more you offer less. BUT If you want to go work for one of those companies you can. Its your choice!
Minimum wage? Let’s hope not, but that’s no concern.
I did not say one word about the % except
Give us model support and if not that a higher %
The average big box site offer 32-50%, higher ends don’t seem to push traffic. Contest drive traffic in, that’s a common business tactic.
For models
FCT: no tech support,
No model support
Models are ignored
48 hours for “support” to return emails.
20-35% is the average for models
I’m independent
I am a contractor
Yes, I do drive traffic. ;)
Models want to know where the money goes? Models bitch that their voices are not heard. Models have zero support.
Models are ignored. Models are independent. It’s a “business relationship”
But
It’s a one way street.
Professional support- meaning they have knowledge. I’m saying they must be paid a good salary but where are they?
It’s cool to get mad I posted benefits of Streamate employees.
Unintentionally pissed you off.
I’m mad about model support
Have you noticed the Indy sites that we give a small % give models more attention, answer questions and listen?
It’s about communication and no support.
the lack of model support trained not to interact with models.
Dumb mindset is to not to be concerned why there is no communication with models. I have asked and was ignored. That’s model support.
We want to be successful. We want support. We want our voices heard.
But
Here’s a necklace ;) it’s shiny
BadBitch
07-01-2018, 10:00 AM
Minimum wage? Let’s hope not, but that’s no concern.
I did not say one word about the % except
Give us model support and if not that a higher %
The average big box site offer 32-50%, higher ends don’t seem to push traffic. Contest drive traffic in, that’s a common business tactic.
For models
FCT: no tech support,
No model support
Models are ignored
48 hours for “support” to return emails.
20-35% is the average for models
I’m independent
I am a contractor
Yes, I do drive traffic. ;)
Models want to know where the money goes? Models bitch that their voices are not heard. Models have zero support.
Models are ignored. Models are independent. It’s a “business relationship”
But
It’s a one way street.
Professional support- meaning they have knowledge. I’m saying they must be paid a good salary but where are they?
It’s cool to get mad I posted benefits of Streamate employees.
Unintentionally pissed you off.
I’m mad about model support
Have you noticed the Indy sites that we give a small % give models more attention, answer questions and listen?
It’s about communication and no support.
the lack of model support trained not to interact with models.
Dumb mindset is to not to be concerned why there is no communication with models. I have asked and was ignored. That’s model support.
We want to be successful. We want support. We want our voices heard.
But
Here’s a necklace ;) it’s shiny
I'm with you. Zero support unless you're a "favorite". And by "favorite", I mean the models who don't say anything about the glitches.
It's basically, if you don't call SM out on their bullshit, you get a necklace or tee by mail with a cute lil note.
It's bullshit.
With that info regarding the employee packages, SM should be sending us ALL necklaces. We're fucking working and paying for their employee benefits. They should be treating us ALL like gold, not just some girls.
Instead of contests, give us ALL a higher % during those contest weeks. Then everyone will log in. I've noticed that girls don't log on during regular contest days. Give us incentives that EVERYONE will benefit from.
anonymous camgirl
07-01-2018, 11:08 AM
I wonder if anyone actually likes the contests? Like? does even the top cam girls like them? I want to know? Everyone seems to groan about them .. Wonder if anyone enjoys themselves.. So stressful.
DeepThoughts
07-01-2018, 12:30 PM
^^ I love the contests. I always make more dough and it drives me to work more especially when they offer the bonus for 25 hours. I hate when the contests are for a holiday cause I always take holidays off and I cannot take part. I would consider myself a top model. In the last contest I placed in the top 100 and I only worked for 3 days and in the one before I was in the top 50.
I feel for those who struggle during them. I also go through slow periods during the contests especially during more "American" hours (because Im in Europe) but I counteract them by doing GS. Even when I dont have clients coming into private or exclusive I can make 20 to 100 an hour just by running a GS and it keeps my room active so Im not just sitting there trying to stay awake.
DeepThoughts
07-01-2018, 12:38 PM
Minimum wage? Let’s hope not, but that’s no concern.
I did not say one word about the % except
Give us model support and if not that a higher %
The average big box site offer 32-50%, higher ends don’t seem to push traffic. Contest drive traffic in, that’s a common business tactic.
For models
FCT: no tech support,
No model support
Models are ignored
48 hours for “support” to return emails.
20-35% is the average for models
I’m independent
I am a contractor
Yes, I do drive traffic. ;)
Models want to know where the money goes? Models bitch that their voices are not heard. Models have zero support.
Models are ignored. Models are independent. It’s a “business relationship”
But
It’s a one way street.
Professional support- meaning they have knowledge. I’m saying they must be paid a good salary but where are they?
It’s cool to get mad I posted benefits of Streamate employees.
Unintentionally pissed you off.
I’m mad about model support
Have you noticed the Indy sites that we give a small % give models more attention, answer questions and listen?
It’s about communication and no support.
the lack of model support trained not to interact with models.
Dumb mindset is to not to be concerned why there is no communication with models. I have asked and was ignored. That’s model support.
We want to be successful. We want support. We want our voices heard.
But
Here’s a necklace ;) it’s shiny
Well I do agree with you that we could use a better support system. I dont think the benefits the employees get is relevant but I now understand why you posted it. I also would like to have a more direct line for models and more information coming to us directly at least during business hours.
I also got frustrated with them in the past regarding this very issue and they handled it well but it hasnt changed the support the offer to us. I have never seen these necklaces or heard of them but way back they sent me a bunch of tank tops the say SM. Anyone want one?
euro_princess
07-01-2018, 01:09 PM
I love contests and I consider myself above average.
Competition always thrills me, so I always get excited about it. Even if I had some rough days, below my average, 30% less, I still managed to win a decent prize. It was bad for a lot of girls, even the top ones, I saw them struggling judging by the $$ in the contest. We are all in the same boat. Some make money because they have this luck and a bigger following, that's all.
SM never sent me a thing. I don't do social media. I don't get special treatment.
I think there are always things to improve, but remember this is a big company. They have departments, they have meetings, they have targets and managers. In order for every feedback to be heard, they need to discuss it, approve it, present the project to the technical support, have a deadline and actually work on it without running the entire site. It's not like a dude comes with an idea and the next day we have it on the website.
Things take time. And I think they do a decent job at implementing things. Now we have a button to report errors, we have contests, a new improved inbox and so on. And we know they are working on developing their own way of payment, implementing a tip vibe toy and probably much more.
CamgirlsRockTheWeb
07-01-2018, 01:30 PM
Haha! Tank tops. I want one! Trade you
There are a few things sent out to models and it is a nice gesture on SM part.
One good thing about Streamate support, we rock. We kick ass helping each other. We are support.
The point of posting benefits is that models pay for those benefits. There is no issue with that IF SM gave models the one benefit we ask for which is support, real support.
C4s- call Neil anytime - problem fixed that day
Cams- call, email, click the live support tab and offer tier %. I do hear the higher a model gets, the less traffic but they have support for models
Bonga- immediate response
Camsoda- immediate
ManyVids- responds to twitter DM and
Imlive- call, email 24/7
Niteflirt- not sure
MFC- email and get a reply with a answer within a reasonable time.
Any Indy site: support instantly
Streamate: constantly checking email, Twitter, instagram. Can someone answer me?!!! :D
Contest are not my thing. I log on, make money and log off. I’m just keeping up with my lifestyle.
Contest bring a lot of models frustration and negative vibes.
I do notice a lot of regular models do not cam during contest.
This week I asked another model where all the models are at? She informed me it’s a week long contest.
IMO- no contest on holidays would be nice. I understand it’s to keep business going.
Incentives for every model working holidays would be nice and the non holiday can be grand prize through top 200.
Support has been requested for years.
We’ve gone through encoders, video uploads, gold shows, tips for tits so it shouldn’t take a million meetings to get legit professional model support.
BadBitch
07-01-2018, 02:38 PM
Well I do agree with you that we could use a better support system. I dont think the benefits the employees get is relevant but I now understand why you posted it. I also would like to have a more direct line for models and more information coming to us directly at least during business hours.
I also got frustrated with them in the past regarding this very issue and they handled it well but it hasnt changed the support the offer to us. I have never seen these necklaces or heard of them but way back they sent me a bunch of tank tops the say SM. Anyone want one?
My biggest issue is that I think it's a HUGE slap in the face that SM won't do anything about fixing their site, yet they have ALL of those employee perks. I just feel that they do not appreciate ALL of their models AT ALL. We ALL deserve shout outs, necklaces, tees, etc. We pay their salaries!
As for the contests, I thought they were real cute in the beginning. But then I started seeing an incredible drop in traffic to my room as well as a huge spike in glitches. I refuse to log on for any contest days anymore. I focus on the other sites that I work on.
IMO, sites shouldn't be running contests. To me, that just says, "Hey, we're suffering with earnings, here's a few thousand dollars. Log on, stay on for as long as you possibly can, see how well/poor other girls are doing. Just make us that money! We don't care if you sleep or eat! Just get that money!"
I think a real supportive site would give us ALL a higher % during these "contest days". Like, "Hey, we'll add 20% on top of what you earn at the end of the week!" That way, EVERYONE wants to take part and EVERYONE gets something. I know SM has done a few of those before. Do away with the regular contests. They drive models away.
Also, what pisses me off during these contests is that girls give everything away for fucking pennies. "Here's 150 of my vids if you contribute to my zero dollar Gold Show." So then guys come into my room during these contests. I'll be running a show and they'll want 150 vids. No.
Serena-Shields
07-01-2018, 03:53 PM
Anyone having an issue where no matter how many times you click block/kick, it won't let you do it? And then once you go private with someone, all of a sudden your stream freezes and all of the 'confirm kick/block' pops come out.
I just had to end my stream and refresh my page because a literal pedophile wouldn't leave and I couldn't block him : )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
BadBitch
07-01-2018, 04:39 PM
Anyone having an issue where no matter how many times you click block/kick, it won't let you do it? And then once you go private with someone, all of a sudden your stream freezes and all of the 'confirm kick/block' pops come out.
I just had to end my stream and refresh my page because a literal pedophile wouldn't leave and I couldn't block him : )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Report him as well.
TheBrownFox
07-01-2018, 08:44 PM
Also, what pisses me off during these contests is that girls give everything away for fucking pennies. "Here's 150 of my vids if you contribute to my zero dollar Gold Show." So then guys come into my room during these contests. I'll be running a show and they'll want 150 vids. No.
I still don’t understand what a $0 Gold show is supposed to mean, or how that even works. Lol.
Redcandy
07-01-2018, 09:36 PM
I wonder if anyone actually likes the contests? Like? does even the top cam girls like them? I want to know? Everyone seems to groan about them .. Wonder if anyone enjoys themselves.. So stressful.
Last year i hated sm contests but that was because i wasnt looking at them as a opportunity. Its free money. I just have to put the effort in. I dont do gold shows or soical media so sometimes my room is dead.But if i put 10 to 12hrs in on sm i always place. Now i love contests! Actually i cant wait til the next one. They make me work more hours which equals a bigger check and bonus $$ in to which i turn around and invest it in the stock market.
anonamiss
07-01-2018, 11:05 PM
I still don’t understand what a $0 Gold show is supposed to mean, or how that even works. Lol.
it's exactly what it sounds like. A model can set a gold show minimum buy in to 0 Gold, effectively making the show free. But she usually provides other incentives to tip, like video packages or a specific extreme show if she hits a high goal.
So it's still funded from high tippers or lots of people throwing in a couple dollars. I just don't like that it allows any guy logged in to watch it for free with no financial participation required.
^^^ Yeah, kind of a MFC style just these guys need a credit card to sign up and log in so u know at least they not minors.
For me contests are a burden cause it kills my traffic completely, i dont know where the traffic goes but not in my room, i get no buyers, no regulars, no people i know, just in and outs.
This week contest took me to a nervous breakdown, i snapped at my son for no serious reason :(, i still feel disturbed for how bad it felt.
SM is my main source of income, recently i started to cam on imlive too but that site is a joke now a days. No other site i know to be good to me.
I love SM, is my bread and butted but when they run contests i just cant manage them.
Redcandy
07-01-2018, 11:58 PM
^^^ Yeah, kind of a MFC style just these guys need a credit card to sign up and log in so u know at least they not minors.
For me contests are a burden cause it kills my traffic completely, i dont know where the traffic goes but not in my room, i get no buyers, no regulars, no people i know, just in and outs.
This week contest took me to a nervous breakdown, i snapped at my son for no serious reason :(, i still feel disturbed for how bad it felt.
SM is my main source of income, recently i started to cam on imlive too but that site is a joke now a days. No other site i know to be good to me.
I love SM, is my bread and butted but when they run contests i just cant manage them.
So are you saying that if you work your 20 to 25 hrs per week shift during a contest you make 0 for the week? Every hour on rather its contest or not i have in and out and mins go by with 0 guys in my room. Like per hour i was getting 1... 5 to 7 mins show..then no one in room then next hour picks up and i may get 2 ..10 mins shows..then back to 1 or 4 ppl in room and in and out. But if i do my full 10 hr shift i will get 3 to 4hrs out of 10 that save my work day. Sm has become about effort and the waitng game.
^^^ I dont have the patience and energy or health to stay that many hrs on cam, my average on a normal shift is 4 hrs on cam, if after 2 hrs i make no money or very little i log off, i cant keep a smiley face on cam anymore, i get pissed and frustrated and it shows.
I made money on last Sunday when the contest started but then the next 3 days i made peanuts so that's why i snapped.
I have back & tail bone pain together with other health issues and cant stay on cam long hrs, for me is important to log on, make some decent money and log off that's why contests are not good for me cause i cant make the money fast enough. Yeah, after soo many years on cam i just got rusty lol
ETA: "Sm has become about effort and the waiting game." -> that's difficult for me to swallow cause it used to be soo much different, sitting on cam w.o making money is torture for me, physically & mentally, i start to think "and now members and models are watching me with this pissed off face & think i am of no value cause i have no tips or shows", yeah that's what pisses me off the most.
Plus these guys, in's and out's, i think "what they looking for, Gold shows, incentives, performance in free chat for nothing, teasing?" I dont offer GS's cause they dont work for me, i dont offer incentives (i dont sell content, this is out of question for me cause i dont want the exposure - live cam is enough).
I dont tease unless i am tipped. This is my cam style, if they dont buy i dont perform.
Yeah, i feel contests bring a specific work environment, girls are offering more during contests and guys expect more and i just dont fit that profile.
I stopped to look or judge what others do but i know from before when i was looking ..... and judging.
You need to look for yourself by going to streamate.com and scrolling down the pages until you find yourself OR you can search yourself by category that you put as your "attributes" Like milf, cuckhold, fitness etc. Also you need to make sure you are searching your area correct area from the drop down at the top
BUT be warned cause its not a simple design where you can determine your worth from being on the top row of the first page or being on a lower placement because they have an algorithm that will show you models based on what you have looked for or at in the past. So if you always look for BBW then next time you sign in your first page will prominently show BBW models. That being said if you have ever gone to the streamate site and watched other models that are nothing like you then those models and similar ones will show up for you on the first page. If you went there and only ever looked at yourself you would probably find yourself on the first row every time.
Its not really worth watching. If you want to do well on SM then do well with every single customer you get. Ask him to rate you 5 stars, leave you tips, check your videos and leave comments and tags. Those little things do matter! Treat every customer well because they are the ones that put money in your bank at the end of the day.
You can check your rating on your home screen. Its in one of the drop down menus at the top but it just lets you know how fast your system/internet is running, your hours, and stars but really doesnt do much more then that.
Thanks a lot, hugs and kisses.
DeepThoughts
07-02-2018, 03:06 AM
I love when contests where we make an extra percentage for the week. I wish all the contests were like that so we werent really competing with one another. I assume those contests werent as profitable but they I was just as motivated to work hard at them and I feel like then everyone has an opportunity to get a boost. Sadly I think we have only had two of those and I think it was at Easter which is my fav holiday so I never work Easter.
Still I hope they will bring those contests back. Even just stagger them in a bit.
euro_princess
07-02-2018, 03:21 AM
Honestly, I don't offer more during contests. Not at all. I do my normal shows, but I am more dedicated and put in the hours.
And I don't get weird requests from customers. They are the same. I have freeloaders everyday, don't particularly see more of them during contests. I don't understand why some girls say they get asked for $0 and packs of 150 clips. I'm a gs girl mostly and theoretically, I should attract those guys, but I don't. Don't get me wrong, I still get a bunch of people who don't join, but that's normal, I'm not going to be everybody's cup of tea. What drives me crazy is when people ask me what's my placement in the contest. Fuck off, you have no right to know, none of your business what money I make. I didn't ask you to help me, so you're not entitled to know.
So as you can see, I still place during contests, even if I am not open about my placement and I don't ask for tips.
Regarding to traffic, I placed pretty high in the contest and I had a slow week, so kinda everybody had a slow week. My previous 3 days contest was during my best week on cam ever and I placed lower than this time. Could it be that some of the girls didn't log in this time? Yeah, definitely, but if you pay attention, you'll spot most of the models who win usually. I have an idea of who's my competition.
I try not to take things personal and I focus on myself, this way I can stay positive. The website doesn't have something against me. Models don't seem to offer free pussy, with some exceptions that usually have that type of hustle (and I'm not in the same category/body type, so I couldn't care less). If girls win prizes, there is money to be made. Maybe not at this hour, maybe not today, but you know what, I'll be online working when is going to be my moment.
That being said, I look forward to win something again. :)
Glamourmilf
07-02-2018, 06:34 AM
^^^ I dont have the patience and energy or health to stay that many hrs on cam, my average on a normal shift is 4 hrs on cam, if after 2 hrs i make no money or very little i log off, i cant keep a smiley face on cam anymore, i get pissed and frustrated and it shows.
I made money on last Sunday when the contest started but then the next 3 days i made peanuts so that's why i snapped.
I have back & tail bone pain together with other health issues and cant stay on cam long hrs, for me is important to log on, make some decent money and log off that's why contests are not good for me cause i cant make the money fast enough. Yeah, after soo many years on cam i just got rusty lol
ETA: "Sm has become about effort and the waiting game." -> that's difficult for me to swallow cause it used to be soo much different, sitting on cam w.o making money is torture for me, physically & mentally, i start to think "and now members and models are watching me with this pissed off face & think i am of no value cause i have no tips or shows", yeah that's what pisses me off the most.
Plus these guys, in's and out's, i think "what they looking for, Gold shows, incentives, performance in free chat for nothing, teasing?" I dont offer GS's cause they dont work for me, i dont offer incentives (i dont sell content, this is out of question for me cause i dont want the exposure - live cam is enough).
I dont tease unless i am tipped. This is my cam style, if they dont buy i dont perform.
Yeah, i feel contests bring a specific work environment, girls are offering more during contests and guys expect more and i just dont fit that profile.
I stopped to look or judge what others do but i know from before when i was looking ..... and judging.
Thanks for posting this.
It's how camming is for me, also.
If I were in my 20's, or 30's and healthy, I'd rock the f..k out of camming!
Only because I did it with stripping.
Shame that it seems to be the only decent stay at home job.
At least one where you can make your own hours.
whirlerz
07-02-2018, 06:40 AM
I love that avatar, exactly how I feel rn^
seicento
07-02-2018, 07:08 AM
I don't like contests. My traffic drops a lot during contests and I barely see any of my regs. Still, I 'll spend my usual hours on cam and make half of what I am usually making.
I am always tempted to take off during contests but this is a job and I'll follow my schedule which is 6 days out of 7 and at least 5 hours a day on. Otherwise I get lazy and take more than a day off. I am not making enough to afford more than a day off. If I was a first page model maybe I could cam 3 days a week but nowadays I had to adapt and work as much as possible if I want to make a living.
BadBitch
07-02-2018, 09:34 AM
I still don’t understand what a $0 Gold show is supposed to mean, or how that even works. Lol.
Guys can contribute whatever. If the model starts the show, everyone in the room can watch - both contributors and non-contributors.
BadBitch
07-02-2018, 09:36 AM
^^^ I dont have the patience and energy or health to stay that many hrs on cam, my average on a normal shift is 4 hrs on cam, if after 2 hrs i make no money or very little i log off, i cant keep a smiley face on cam anymore, i get pissed and frustrated and it shows.
I made money on last Sunday when the contest started but then the next 3 days i made peanuts so that's why i snapped.
I have back & tail bone pain together with other health issues and cant stay on cam long hrs, for me is important to log on, make some decent money and log off that's why contests are not good for me cause i cant make the money fast enough. Yeah, after soo many years on cam i just got rusty lol
ETA: "Sm has become about effort and the waiting game." -> that's difficult for me to swallow cause it used to be soo much different, sitting on cam w.o making money is torture for me, physically & mentally, i start to think "and now members and models are watching me with this pissed off face & think i am of no value cause i have no tips or shows", yeah that's what pisses me off the most.
Plus these guys, in's and out's, i think "what they looking for, Gold shows, incentives, performance in free chat for nothing, teasing?" I dont offer GS's cause they dont work for me, i dont offer incentives (i dont sell content, this is out of question for me cause i dont want the exposure - live cam is enough).
I dont tease unless i am tipped. This is my cam style, if they dont buy i dont perform.
Yeah, i feel contests bring a specific work environment, girls are offering more during contests and guys expect more and i just dont fit that profile.
I stopped to look or judge what others do but i know from before when i was looking ..... and judging.
You sound like me.
TheBrownFox
07-02-2018, 11:33 AM
it's exactly what it sounds like. A model can set a gold show minimum buy in to 0 Gold, effectively making the show free. But she usually provides other incentives to tip, like video packages or a specific extreme show if she hits a high goal.
So it's still funded from high tippers or lots of people throwing in a couple dollars. I just don't like that it allows any guy logged in to watch it for free with no financial participation required.
Yeah, I'm not feelin' that at all. I'm not a fan of giving free sex shows to non-spenders (not knocking those ladies who do it...just ain't my thang). Thanks for explaining.
TheBrownFox
07-02-2018, 11:49 AM
Guys can contribute whatever. If the model starts the show, everyone in the room can watch - both contributors and non-contributors.
Yikes! Lol. Okay, thanks for explaining.
Ginnyyy
07-02-2018, 12:39 PM
Too bad C2C works 1 out of 5 or more. Even lost a show here and there bcs of the glitch.
seicento
07-02-2018, 01:18 PM
Join Us For a Bikini Day Contest!
Lol. No week without a contest, huh?
LizzyMe
07-02-2018, 02:14 PM
It would be interesting if SM came up with something more original sometime soon for their contests. I would like to see a contest geared more towards domination/submission or fetishes. So much what I see on SM is so vanilla. Yes, I get that for a contest it needs to encompass the majority, but once in awhile it is nice to mix it up. Some of the guys do like dom/sub and fetishes and some models do offer it.
anonamiss
07-02-2018, 02:15 PM
Join Us For a Bikini Day Contest!
Lol. No week without a contest, huh?
they've done bikini day contests the last two years so I was expecting that one. It's technically on the night of 4th of July for US timezones, and in past years I always have a lot of really drunk guys wanting to spend that night. Hopefully it's a good night.
Oh and btw, the last two years they also had a contest on July 14th celebrating "Nude Day"... Which is absolutely stupid since we're not allowed to be nude in free chat. But I would expect that one to happen this month too.
anonamiss
07-02-2018, 02:22 PM
It would be interesting if SM came up with something more original. I would like to see a contest geared more towards domination/submission or fetishes. So much what I see on SM is so vanilla. Yes, I get that for a contest it needs to encompass the majority, but once in awhile it is nice to mix it up. Some of the guys do like dom/sub and fetishes and some models do offer it.
the contest themes never actually affect the contest itself, though, which is probably why they're so generic. It's always ultimately about who earns the most regardless of the theme. It wouldn't make sense to do a contest that focused on a kink/fetish that not everyone offers.
LizzyMe
07-02-2018, 02:39 PM
I do understand why they are so generic and it is ALL about how much money is made. I am just saying, the contests are a bit boring. I make the majority of my money doing everything but, vanilla. Hey, it does not even have to be dom/sub or fetishes. I like to make money just as much as the next person, but, I think the models and the customers could have more fun making money, if the site can get a little more original sometimes. That and good model support too! :)
BadBitch
07-02-2018, 02:39 PM
Welp, I didn't work last week cause of the shitty-ass contest. I was contemplating logging on this week. Just saw the email about the "Bikini Contest".
Nope. See ya next week.
Marina Starr
07-02-2018, 02:44 PM
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Welp, I didn't work last week cause of the shitty-ass contest. I was contemplating logging on this week. Just saw the email about the "Bikini Contest".
Nope. See ya next week.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-02-2018, 03:02 PM
I do understand why they are so generic and it is ALL about how much money is made. I am just saying, the contests are a bit boring. I make the majority of my money doing everything but, vanilla. Hey, it does not even have to be dom/sub or fetishes. I like to make money just as much as the next person but, I think the models and the customers could have more fun making it, if the site can get a little more original sometimes. That and good model support too! :)
Ive posted this at least 3 times on here about themes and lack of originality on sm. Ive even sent them suggestions on how to enhance the fetish sections. Make them pop. A different color for the layoyts. Add more fetish events on the calendar and then grow a presence on the fet forums to drive traffic. Create fetish based tools for affiliates. Basically the site just looks too damn vanilla all the way through.
They could change the color themes for each category as well. Add some mystery. A little bit of intrigue as soon as the traffic enters a new section. Do something similar to the way ImLive does it, but more organized. I know you guys are talking about contest themes but I think all year round themes would be badass. These techbros dont seem to go for marketing that only appeals to them.
anonamiss
07-02-2018, 03:12 PM
I do understand why they are so generic and it is ALL about how much money is made. I am just saying, the contests are a bit boring. I make the majority of my money doing everything but, vanilla. Hey, it does not even have to be dom/sub or fetishes. Like I mentioned in my previous post, the contests need to encompass everyone but, I think the models and the customers could have more fun making money, if the site can get a little more original sometimes. That and good model support too! :)
I guess I just don't understand the notion that "the contests are a bit boring" because I don't see contests as anything different than just working a regular shift. I try to have fun in my room regardless of if there's a contest or not. What sorts of themes would you like to see that would make the contests feel less boring to you?