View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
LizzyMe
07-02-2018, 03:16 PM
Ive posted this at least 3 times on here about themes and lack of originality on sm. Ive even sent them suggestions on how to enhance the fetish sections. Make them pop. A different color for the layoyts. Add more fetish events on the calendar and then grow a presence on the fet forums to drive traffic. Create fetish based tools for affiliates. Basically the site just looks too damn vanilla all the way through.
They could change the color themes for each category as well. Add some mystery. A little bit of intrigue as soon as the traffic enters a new section. Do something similar to the way ImLive does it, but more organized. I know you guys are talking about contest themes but I think all year round themes would be badass. These techbros dont seem to go for marketing that only appeals to them.
Yes, I agree, they need to create some fetish categories, besides guys just using tags or our placement to find us. There are tons of guys who are into Fetish. Mix things up and draw more attention to it. Fetish is a big money maker too. I do quite well with it, but myself and others could do even better with more attention on it.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-02-2018, 03:37 PM
Hourly contest would be amazing! Imagine what that would do for moral? Camming can be so up and down. Sometimes you make 100 in the first hour and some days it can take alot longer. So let's say you're in the 2,000 a week group and not too fazed if your room is slow. That model knows to be patient and the money will come. A model who averages $25 hour hits the jackpot and wins a big bonus because for one hour she was the top earner. This does and can happen.
Create a leaderboard showing the top 10 for that hour or two during the quickie contest. Those ten spots will constantly change and now someone who doesnt always place in a contest can get some of the action. Like maybe a $100 cash prize. Give away toys too! Fucking cameras! etc. I'm just running my mouth and throwing some ideas around.
DahliaSimone
07-02-2018, 03:41 PM
That would be awesome....because theres no other way id ever place in a contest, or even come close. Being in such a niche category makes these contests void and null for me, it just takes away what little traffic i already get.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-02-2018, 03:48 PM
That would be awesome....because theres no other way id ever place in a contest, or even come close. Being in such a niche category makes these contests void and null for me, it just takes away what little traffic i already get.
Yes and this fantasy leaderboard should be open for ALL models on the site. :) Contest like that could make things more exciting.
^^^ Yes i used to do fetish a lot but nobody is interested in it anymore cause site culture changed since they introduced Gold shows, GS's dont work with niches and for me group fetish shows dont work cause everyone wants different things.
If i do fetish it has to be individual shows but as i said, fetish guys are gone from SM somehow cause all SM promotes is Vanilla Contests and all GS's are vanilla oriented so there is no audience for my Fetish shows anymore, only if by happening people can find me by tags or keywords.
I talk about my own experience here, other models might experience things differently.
Scorpio Girl
07-02-2018, 04:36 PM
they've done bikini day contests the last two years so I was expecting that one. It's technically on the night of 4th of July for US timezones, and in past years I always have a lot of really drunk guys wanting to spend that night. Hopefully it's a good night.
Oh and btw, the last two years they also had a contest on July 14th celebrating "Nude Day"... Which is absolutely stupid since we're not allowed to be nude in free chat. But I would expect that one to happen this month too.
I was just saying yesterday I can't believe they're not having a contest on the 4th lol
anonymous camgirl
07-02-2018, 04:57 PM
Same here, I have noticed a huge reduction in fetishes on SM.. it's sad.. because I like doing some of them.. keeps things interesting.. and some times I can be a bitch in free chat and get paid.. but these guys are gone!!
^^^ Yes i used to do fetish a lot but nobody is interested in it anymore cause site culture changed since they introduced Gold shows, GS's dont work with niches and for me group fetish shows dont work cause everyone wants different things.
If i do fetish it has to be individual shows but as i said, fetish guys are gone from SM somehow cause all SM promotes is Vanilla Contests and all GS's are vanilla oriented so there is no audience for Fetish, only if by happening people can find me by tags or keywords.
I talk about my own experience here, other models might experience things differently.
anonymous camgirl
07-02-2018, 05:00 PM
Same here , we literally have the same schedule.. 6 days a week 5-6 hours a day.. I cannot even afford 1 day off.. but I kinda need to for my health.
I don't like contests. My traffic drops a lot during contests and I barely see any of my regs. Still, I 'll spend my usual hours on cam and make half of what I am usually making.
I am always tempted to take off during contests but this is a job and I'll follow my schedule which is 6 days out of 7 and at least 5 hours a day on. Otherwise I get lazy and take more than a day off. I am not making enough to afford more than a day off. If I was a first page model maybe I could cam 3 days a week but nowadays I had to adapt and work as much as possible if I want to make a living.
Same here, I have noticed a huge reduction in fetishes on SM.. it's sad.. because I like doing some of them.. keeps things interesting.. and some times I can be a bitch in free chat and get paid.. but these guys are gone!!
I know right? And this because what they find on 1st page is mainly models doing generic shows and Gold Shows, the categories are not helping much either, there is just Feet Fetish (my speciality) but a lot of models tick that box just to be ticked while they do vanilla stuff.
Not judging just telling how site changed in the last years. I used to get a lot of fetish guys in my room, now i am 'amazed' if anyone asks for specific fetishes while before was normal to get mostly fetish guys in my room. Go figure.
euro_princess
07-02-2018, 07:15 PM
I'm definetly not a fetish girl, but some of my best customers are fetish guys. I don't see a reduction in them, even if I mostly do vanilla shows. I'm still amazed I get those people, even if I don't have specific tags, nor portray myself in a specific way. But I do get on average 3-4 good people/day that want SPH, domination, cuckold, weird fantasies (gigantism, sexual eating, blasphemy - this is my fav one). It might be just luck.
If I wanted to promote myself as a domme, I would definitely invest time in clips (fetish, non nudes ones) and tag them with the specific key words. I'm not sure how it works for them, if they can search by key words or press it and see more similar clips, but I imagine there is a connection. Sometimes I get offline sales from people who never visited me, so they must find the clips somehow. I doubt they are just lurking on my profile while I'm not online.
Second, I would post pictures on my profile to show exactly what I'm into. Pics of me with a strap on, pics of me holding a limp dick, pics of my shoes, pics of my domme outfits..Basically anything that would scream, fetish.
Visual contest is the easiest way to attract. It catches the eye. Compared to having a discuseion "do you do that"'
seicento
07-02-2018, 09:12 PM
they've done bikini day contests the last two years so I was expecting that one. It's technically on the night of 4th of July for US timezones, and in past years I always have a lot of really drunk guys wanting to spend that night. Hopefully it's a good night.
Oh and btw, the last two years they also had a contest on July 14th celebrating "Nude Day"... Which is absolutely stupid since we're not allowed to be nude in free chat. But I would expect that one to happen this month too.
I remember.
Well, it happens that I have to take off Wednesday and Thursday so I'll avoid this contest without even trying.
kamiliam
07-02-2018, 09:58 PM
anyone else's c2c completely turned off?
nvm seems to be back on, I just had two guys in a hour who have done c2c with me before who both said it was "crossed out"
Hourly contest would be amazing! Imagine what that would do for moral? Camming can be so up and down. Sometimes you make 100 in the first hour and some days it can take alot longer. So let's say you're in the 2,000 a week group and not too fazed if your room is slow. That model knows to be patient and the money will come. A model who averages $25 hour hits the jackpot and wins a big bonus because for one hour she was the top earner. This does and can happen.
Create a leaderboard showing the top 10 for that hour or two during the quickie contest. Those ten spots will constantly change and now someone who doesnt always place in a contest can get some of the action. Like maybe a $100 cash prize. Give away toys too! Fucking cameras! etc. I'm just running my mouth and throwing some ideas around.
I like this idea. I am in!
Please, can you tell me how and especially when do you ask for a review? Before the private, at the end? And what exactly do you tell them?
Thanks. A lot.
Hugs.
Ginnyyy
07-03-2018, 02:23 AM
You can tell them at the end of the show to rate you with stars if they enjoyed the time together and to comment on profile by leaving you a review. You can also ask the guys in freechat to leave you some tags on your profile since you're new.
I personally don't bother anymore with all of these above. Surprisingly, the guys who seem too demanding in a show, happen to amaze me with 5stars.
DeepThoughts
07-03-2018, 05:48 AM
Welp, I didn't work last week cause of the shitty-ass contest. I was contemplating logging on this week. Just saw the email about the "Bikini Contest".
Nope. See ya next week.
Its only one day!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2018, 06:45 AM
I like this idea. I am in!
Please, can you tell me how and especially when do you ask for a review? Before the private, at the end? And what exactly do you tell them?
Thanks. A lot.
Hugs.
Use a presaved message intermittently throughout the show. Have at least two different kind that caters to different crowds.
"Mmm baby you got me so hot right now. Make sure you hook me up with 5 STARS. It gets me wet".
"Show Goddess how much you adore her. 5 STARS & A GENEROUS TIP is all the proof I need. "
It also helps to say this out loud at the same time while nodding your head. Make it sexy...whatever that means to you. :)
Dont spam them with the messages of course. You'll have to work on your timing. Its easy when they're engaging and type in chat. Many will post things telling you when they're about to pop. Thats a great moment to remind them.
anonymous camgirl
07-03-2018, 08:54 AM
Here's my quick text in pvt... and I give it to them when I start taking my clothes off...
Will you do me a favor and rate me 5 stars hon? Thanks xoxoxoxo
I like this idea. I am in!
Please, can you tell me how and especially when do you ask for a review? Before the private, at the end? And what exactly do you tell them?
Thanks. A lot.
Hugs.
Thanks so so much to all beautiful and kind ladies for this help. I did not ask and I can see they do not bother to leave any stars and any review. Mmmmm. Men.
If you do not ask, they do not do.
Thanks again so much, you are of a great help to me. Only one month in camming.
anonymous camgirl
07-03-2018, 11:18 AM
Men are not programmed to give of their own free will.. this is just innate inherent nature unfortunately... They are programmed to take and conquer.. So yea.. as women we have to keep asking for what we want! And we don't get them because we are programmed to nurture and give.
Thanks so so much to all beautiful and kind ladies for this help. I did not ask and I can see they do not bother to leave any stars and any review. Mmmmm. Men.
If you do not ask, they do not do.
Thanks again so much, you are of a great help to me. Only one month in camming.
DahliaSimone
07-03-2018, 02:20 PM
My ONLY pvt of the day, and from a semi-reg who always gets long pvts, and of course SM boots me off in the middle of it, because....why tf not? I'm sure another girl is getting the pvt I fuckin needed now. Thanks again for nothing SM, you can suck my ass.
Serena113
07-04-2018, 01:53 AM
I like this idea. I am in!
Please, can you tell me how and especially when do you ask for a review? Before the private, at the end? And what exactly do you tell them?
Thanks. A lot.
Hugs.
I can't be bothered to type or even use presaved messages, so I just ask right at the end because I don't expect them to remember such a request made before or while they're wanking. It works pretty well.
StellaPurr
07-04-2018, 01:54 AM
I have noticed a downturn of fetish/kink shows for sure. Usually I have enough of those shows peppered throughout my shift that it keeps it interesting/rations out the pussy. My camathon on Saturday to place in the contest was ALL vanilla and hoooo boy by the end of it I had some tender jennies!
JoyKitten
07-04-2018, 04:00 AM
^^^ Yes i used to do fetish a lot but nobody is interested in it anymore cause site culture changed since they introduced Gold shows, GS's dont work with niches and for me group fetish shows dont work cause everyone wants different things.
If i do fetish it has to be individual shows but as i said, fetish guys are gone from SM somehow cause all SM promotes is Vanilla Contests and all GS's are vanilla oriented so there is no audience for my Fetish shows anymore, only if by happening people can find me by tags or keywords.
I talk about my own experience here, other models might experience things differently.
I agree, I don't get nearly as many fetish guys as I use to. Though I'm not so sure it's the site culture that has changed, but that the clip sites have been booming, taking away business from us on live cam. A guy can download a LOT of fetishish specific vids for the price of one show with us. And I think the videos can get even more creative than an exclusive block session with a single model.
There are clever models who record their live fetish shows and upload them to the clip sites. I imagine the clips from a live show are satisfying in a way, like joining a group private (rather than an exclusive session).
Men are not programmed to give of their own free will.. this is just innate inherent nature unfortunately... They are programmed to take and conquer.. So yea.. as women we have to keep asking for what we want! And we don't get them because we are programmed to nurture and give.
Yes, very smart you said it. THX.
Halo88
07-04-2018, 04:42 AM
Hourly contest would be amazing! Imagine what that would do for moral? Camming can be so up and down. Sometimes you make 100 in the first hour and some days it can take alot longer. So let's say you're in the 2,000 a week group and not too fazed if your room is slow. That model knows to be patient and the money will come. A model who averages $25 hour hits the jackpot and wins a big bonus because for one hour she was the top earner. This does and can happen.
Create a leaderboard showing the top 10 for that hour or two during the quickie contest. Those ten spots will constantly change and now someone who doesnt always place in a contest can get some of the action. Like maybe a $100 cash prize. Give away toys too! Fucking cameras! etc. I'm just running my mouth and throwing some ideas around.
I love you PGD, but here is my opinion:
First off, I cam to make my money --- I give no Fs what other girls make. So this whole thing would be uncomfortable to me. Girls watching my income. eek.
Wouldn't an hourly contest further enable what most of us SM girls are against? Freebies, catering to cheap useless fucks, etc.
I have placed well in many SM contests, but I can see how they are bullshit, and not beneficial to most models.
Hourly contests are just a gateway to girls destroying a great platform.
Models and guys who want to give/receive freebies should go to chaturbate or mfc
I'm kinda tired of girls trying to "evolve" SM when there is nothing wrong with our platform to begin with.
Girls are lowering the bar, instead of raising it.
IDK what is so wrong with letting us work on our own time, and pace, tbh.
Why are these contests and leaderboards so necessary?
We did just fine years ago before this. #oldSM
I agree, I don't get nearly as many fetish guys as I use to. Though I'm not so sure it's the site culture that has changed, but that the clip sites have been booming, taking away business from us on live cam. A guy can download a LOT of fetishish specific vids for the price of one show with us. And I think the videos can get even more creative than an exclusive block session with a single model.
There are clever models who record their live fetish shows and upload them to the clip sites. I imagine the clips from a live show are satisfying in a way, like joining a group private (rather than an exclusive session).
Wow yes, it makes sense, did not come to my mind to think of clip sites honestly cause i dont sell content but yes, these guys have the type of show they want on these sites and is cheaper than a live show where the model have to improvise and come up with a show that meet his expectations where on a clip site the material is produced and sold 'ready made', the guys just pick what they need.
Of course there are models who get the fetish guys still, i too get them time to time but not as often as before.
When u have a good placement and u there at the half top of page one u get all the good traffic, fetish or vanilla, unfortunately i lost on my ranking a lot due to not camming much in the last years cause of health issues.
Ty for enlightening me Joy xx
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-04-2018, 05:59 AM
I love you PGD, but here is my opinion:
First off, I cam to make my money --- I give no Fs what other girls make. So this whole thing would be uncomfortable to me. Girls watching my income. eek.
Wouldn't an hourly contest further enable what most of us SM girls are against? Freebies, catering to cheap useless fucks, etc.
I have placed well in many SM contests, but I can see how they are bullshit, and not beneficial to most models.
Hourly contests are just a gateway to girls destroying a great platform.
Models and guys who want to give/receive freebies should go to chaturbate or mfc
I'm kinda tired of girls trying to "evolve" SM when there is nothing wrong with our platform to begin with.
Girls are lowering the bar, instead of raising it.
IDK what is so wrong with letting us work on our own time, and pace, tbh.
Why are these contests and leaderboards so necessary?
We did just fine years ago before this. #oldSM
What do my ideas have to do with freebies and lowering the bar? I never said anything about freebies? Or suggested models should give things away to make money, although lots of people do this regardless of contest and leaderboards. I have nothing to do with those hustles.
" First off, I cam to make my money --- I give no Fs what other girls make "
I feel ya...but Yikes! Its okay that you dont like my ideas but please dont turn my noble attempt at brainstorming into something else. I just figured I'd add a few thoughts to break up the sky is falling vibes and all the finger pointing that goes on. Y'all may not like those contest but I seriously doubt they're going to stop. I just thought it would be a good idea to evolve the contest by changing them up from time to time with fresh ideas.
Glamourmilf
07-04-2018, 06:56 AM
Men are not programmed to give of their own free will.. this is just innate inherent nature unfortunately... They are programmed to take and conquer.. So yea.. as women we have to keep asking for what we want! And we don't get them because we are programmed to nurture and give.
Yes, very smart you said it. THX.
This is right on the money Anon.
I find that reverse psychology works on them too.
Probably why I'm single after 2 marriages.
After camming, who wants to go out and deal with a man's bullshit?
Not this girl.
Too exhausting.
^^^ Same here just one marriage and a couple relationships, i tried dating in the last year and it was a waste of time and a nonsense, i lost time and money dealing with men that were not worth my time which means money for me.
No ty, i gave up on dating, i need my safety, sanity & own time to deal with my own needs like making a living and taking care of my health.
I think camming is changing us a lot when it comes to dealing with men, some professions are hard to integrate into relationships or better said, relationships are hard to integrate into some professions and adult work is one of them.
Panthera
07-04-2018, 11:54 AM
^^^ I dont have the patience and energy or health to stay that many hrs on cam, my average on a normal shift is 4 hrs on cam, if after 2 hrs i make no money or very little i log off, i cant keep a smiley face on cam anymore, i get pissed and frustrated and it shows.
I made money on last Sunday when the contest started but then the next 3 days i made peanuts so that's why i snapped.
I have back & tail bone pain together with other health issues and cant stay on cam long hrs, for me is important to log on, make some decent money and log off that's why contests are not good for me cause i cant make the money fast enough. Yeah, after soo many years on cam i just got rusty lol
ETA: "Sm has become about effort and the waiting game." -> that's difficult for me to swallow cause it used to be soo much different, sitting on cam w.o making money is torture for me, physically & mentally, i start to think "and now members and models are watching me with this pissed off face & think i am of no value cause i have no tips or shows", yeah that's what pisses me off the most.
Plus these guys, in's and out's, i think "what they looking for, Gold shows, incentives, performance in free chat for nothing, teasing?" I dont offer GS's cause they dont work for me, i dont offer incentives (i dont sell content, this is out of question for me cause i dont want the exposure - live cam is enough).
I dont tease unless i am tipped. This is my cam style, if they dont buy i dont perform.
Yeah, i feel contests bring a specific work environment, girls are offering more during contests and guys expect more and i just dont fit that profile.
I stopped to look or judge what others do but i know from before when i was looking ..... and judging.
Exactly the same here, minus the thinking about what others think of me if I just sit in free chat with no members. I gave up caring about other people's opinions about me a while ago and I've been so much happier and successful ever since :))) People will think whatever they wish to think anyways, because they think of me as they are, not as I am.
So I stay my 3-4 hours online no matter what, watching YouTube, reading this forum, reading articles on the net... so I keep a relaxed face and a smile too. I get up and do some yoga at times (awesome for backaches!)... for the lucky ones that happen to see me... I look at this like a job that requires me to be there for 4 hours (or as many hours as I can, but usually not even 4), and not think about the earnings as a measure of my self worth for that day. I praise myself for resilience and punctuality lol. To be honest, the earnings follow much easier than before, when I would just kick my head against the desk when I wouldn't be making anything for 30 mins or an hour lol. Contests do annoy me a bit, too, because usually I have to stay online more to make the same money but oh well. Not worth getting wrinkles over that :) What is, is. It's not gonna change with me worrying. It's gonna change towards the better tho, with me accepting it, in case I cannot change it (which I cannot). Remind me this next time I 'm freaking out, haha (as this is my sole income)
JoyKitten
07-04-2018, 02:12 PM
^^ I love the contests. I always make more dough and it drives me to work more especially when they offer the bonus for 25 hours. I hate when the contests are for a holiday cause I always take holidays off and I cannot take part. I would consider myself a top model. In the last contest I placed in the top 100 and I only worked for 3 days and in the one before I was in the top 50.
I feel for those who struggle during them. I also go through slow periods during the contests especially during more "American" hours (because Im in Europe) but I counteract them by doing GS. Even when I dont have clients coming into private or exclusive I can make 20 to 100 an hour just by running a GS and it keeps my room active so Im not just sitting there trying to stay awake.
Ms Deep, you're supporting what I've contended all along, SM offers contests when viewership is going to be down. And btw if guys are unable to cam with us because they're on holiday (with family) then the top models aren't usually around either for the same reason.
I've deduced that contests are a way for STREAMATE to drive traffic & increase THEIR earnings. I honestly don't see contests as an arbitrary thing. "Oh, let's just have a contest for no reason!" Nope. I believe it's business decisions that are very calculated.
I also suspect that some contests are offered during times that Streamate is upgrading their software or servers, stuff that may fuck up our stream, causing us to get fed-up and log off. It is a 24 hour business, so there are going to be times that the programmers need to run new software to get the bugs out. Though I have no proof of that site maintainace is a reason for some of our contests. I've just observed a coincidence that sometimes there is a contest & the site is messed up with everyone having similar complaints. Just a thought.
JoyKitten
07-04-2018, 02:24 PM
Well I do agree with you that we could use a better support system. I dont think the benefits the employees get is relevant but I now understand why you posted it. I also would like to have a more direct line for models and more information coming to us directly at least during business hours.
I also got frustrated with them in the past regarding this very issue and they handled it well but it hasnt changed the support the offer to us. I have never seen these necklaces or heard of them but way back they sent me a bunch of tank tops the say SM. Anyone want one?
Possibly the gold STREAMATE necklaces were given at industry events as a 'thank you' for participating. Taking time, money & time off cam to get out to the industry shows, on our own dime, is a commitment. So I could be wrong, but I got that idea somewhere.
Anyone reading this able to confirm how or why you received yours?
JoyKitten
07-04-2018, 02:32 PM
Anyone having an issue where no matter how many times you click block/kick, it won't let you do it? And then once you go private with someone, all of a sudden your stream freezes and all of the 'confirm kick/block' pops come out.
I just had to end my stream and refresh my page because a literal pedophile wouldn't leave and I couldn't block him : )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I know that almost any button we click on Streamate has a lag time while the message travels to the servers in Seattle & the reply travel back to us (I think they've added more around the globe, but Seattle for sure). I'm guessing that if you clicked the buttons several times, the first one might have taken time to process and further clicking caused a delay for your transactions to register on the servers.... which turned out to be in the middle of your paid session =(
BadBitch
07-04-2018, 04:36 PM
I love you PGD, but here is my opinion:
First off, I cam to make my money --- I give no Fs what other girls make. So this whole thing would be uncomfortable to me. Girls watching my income. eek.
Wouldn't an hourly contest further enable what most of us SM girls are against? Freebies, catering to cheap useless fucks, etc.
I have placed well in many SM contests, but I can see how they are bullshit, and not beneficial to most models.
Hourly contests are just a gateway to girls destroying a great platform.
Models and guys who want to give/receive freebies should go to chaturbate or mfc
I'm kinda tired of girls trying to "evolve" SM when there is nothing wrong with our platform to begin with.
Girls are lowering the bar, instead of raising it.
IDK what is so wrong with letting us work on our own time, and pace, tbh.
Why are these contests and leaderboards so necessary?
We did just fine years ago before this. #oldSM
"Why are these contests and leaderboards so necessary?"
Because SM crashed a few years back and has not been right since. The glitches have caused customers to leave. It caused models to leave. Traffic has dwindled. Therefore, SM's income has plummeted.
These contests are SM's way of getting models to work harder for the site. The prizes are the dangling carrot.
I honestly wish that models would stop playing into the contests. I would absolutely LOVE if every model would not log in during the contests as a sort of "fuck you" to SM. But, that isn't going to happen because some girls really like these ridiculous contests.
BadBitch
07-04-2018, 04:38 PM
Possibly the gold STREAMATE necklaces were given at industry events as a 'thank you' for participating. Taking time, money & time off cam to get out to the industry shows, on our own dime, is a commitment. So I could be wrong, but I got that idea somewhere.
Anyone reading this able to confirm how or why you received yours?
They sent the necklaces to model's homes/apts with notes thanking them. I have a HUGE fucking problem with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have worked my fucking ASS off with SM for many years. Every day or night, you will find me on the site. I gave my all to that site. Did I get a necklace? No. Who got a necklace? Girls who barely fucking work. Girls who started way after me.
It fucking blows. SM plays favorites and it fucking hurts. I want to be fucking thanked for my dedication and my fucking hard work on that site. Instead, they fucking treat me like shit by ignoring me when I write them about something.
Halo88
07-04-2018, 11:23 PM
What do my ideas have to do with freebies and lowering the bar? I never said anything about freebies? Or suggested models should give things away to make money, although lots of people do this regardless of contest and leaderboards. I have nothing to do with those hustles.
" First off, I cam to make my money --- I give no Fs what other girls make "
I feel ya...but Yikes! Its okay that you dont like my ideas but please dont turn my noble attempt at brainstorming into something else. I just figured I'd add a few thoughts to break up the sky is falling vibes and all the finger pointing that goes on. Y'all may not like those contest but I seriously doubt they're going to stop. I just thought it would be a good idea to evolve the contest by changing them up from time to time with fresh ideas.
I definitely did not mean to seem like I was directing that at you PGD. I apologize.
It was was actually a rant about how the site does the contests in general, though I did start it with my opinion of an hourly contest.
I think an occasional hourly contest could have potential, and I totally agree with you that changing them up is needed.
But, I'll go more into detail.
(As other posters on here have mentioned) I don't believe the theory that they just want models to be on when they know it is going to be a slower time, or when repairs and upgrades are being done.
It makes no sense.
My theory is that they actually want models to offer incentives, discounts, etc to guys during that time.
The contests started around the time that high gold shows were becoming more difficult to reach goals, and also that was around the time when girls started bumping their rates up to 10+ per minute. *(not that there is anything wrong with higher rates) That's just a thought.
The average contest has prizes for the top 200 models, with the top 20-50 only actually getting a decent prize. That is small considering there are 1500+ models on most of the time. Unless a model is a consistently a high earner with solid regs, the chances of placing drops for most models.
Add in a slow week or glitches, and it's more difficult. Lowering prices and giving more away is the way to go for some at that point. The site knows that. That's what I think irritates most girls about the contests.
Especially the ones not willing to lower the bar, to find out they only get a $25 prize at the end of the week.
If they simply want girls to be on during those slow times, then instead of contests based on earnings, why not offer something based on hours we are online. Maybe even different tiers based on a combo of various earnings with hours online. Then everyone who puts effort in will be happy. They occasionally do something similar, with the 25 hours thing.
I personally enjoy contests when I am motivated to do them, and have no beef with the site at all. I love working there. But, I do see where many girls are coming from when they say they hate contests.
Sorry for the long post. :)
Halo88
07-04-2018, 11:26 PM
They sent the necklaces to model's homes/apts with notes thanking them. I have a HUGE fucking problem with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have always been curious about this. What were they being thanked for?
Erika_Xstacy
07-05-2018, 01:56 PM
I was at the streamate AVN model appreciation party and I snatched like 5 necklaces and more tshirts. lol, they didnt thank me but it was less mess for them to pick up. Streamate had gift bags available.
There was a drawing and I won a Logitech c920 webcam but gave it to another model who had broken hers. Girls won ringlights, shit like that. Camming things are nice.
I received something in the mail (twice) was when I did a youtube 2016 interview with streamate MrSkin interview in 2017 not realizing he was part of streamate until this week. he adds a thank you note for the podcast and to do a shout out on twitter with the tshirt for promo.
both tshirts
DeepThoughts
07-05-2018, 02:17 PM
^^ I saw they have pop sockets on Twitter and I want one!!! But Im thinking maybe they only send to USA models.
BadBitch
07-05-2018, 04:23 PM
I have always been curious about this. What were they being thanked for?
My guess? For sucking ass and not complaining about the site issues.
Glamourmilf
07-06-2018, 07:52 AM
I was at the streamate AVN model appreciation party and I snatched like 5 necklaces and more tshirts. lol, they didnt thank me but it was less mess for them to pick up. Streamate had gift bags available.
There was a drawing and I won a Logitech c920 webcam but gave it to another model who had broken hers. Girls won ringlights, shit like that. Camming things are nice.
I received something in the mail (twice) was when I did a youtube 2016 interview with streamate MrSkin interview in 2017 not realizing he was part of streamate until this week. he adds a thank you note for the podcast and to do a shout out on twitter with the tshirt for promo.
both tshirts
Yes. I received a t-shirt in the mail, just last week.
It was a thank you for being a guest on the @MrSkin podcast.
I don't kiss SM ass.
Anyone that knows my placement on the site can confirm that. Lol!
FreakyFranky
07-06-2018, 10:19 AM
Guy can't go cam2cam, lots of dudes getting disconnected with the reason: user must contact support, what does theat mean? UGHHHH STREAMATE THIS IS MY BUSIEST DAY SINCE IVE BEEN BACK, PLEASE WORK
Ginnyyy
07-06-2018, 10:23 AM
Cam2cam is glitching badly most of the times since more than a week, for me too.
DeepThoughts
07-06-2018, 10:28 AM
Guy can't go cam2cam, lots of dudes getting disconnected with the reason: user must contact support, what does theat mean? UGHHHH STREAMATE THIS IS MY BUSIEST DAY SINCE IVE BEEN BACK, PLEASE WORK
That means that they are out of money. They reached their daily limit either with you or someone else and they spent the last few bucks they had on you but Its not a glitch.
anonamiss
07-06-2018, 10:56 AM
Cam2cam is glitching badly most of the times since more than a week, for me too.
mine didn't work at all on the night of the contest. Had a reg that wanted to spend his high daily limit on me and his effing camera wouldn't open. The request popped up and as soon as I clicked accept, it flashed his little cam screen and then disappeared. Same thing after multiple attempts. >_<
Marina Starr
07-06-2018, 12:18 PM
What the fuck is up with cam2cam lately????!!!!
I rarely complain but when you're messing with my money and dicks I want to see, we have a problem!
No love,
One pissed off Hoe
Scorpio Girl
07-06-2018, 07:06 PM
Possibly the gold STREAMATE necklaces were given at industry events as a 'thank you' for participating. Taking time, money & time off cam to get out to the industry shows, on our own dime, is a commitment. So I could be wrong, but I got that idea somewhere.
Anyone reading this able to confirm how or why you received yours?
I went to the model party in Vegas in January this year and got the necklace, tank top, shot glass, and socks. I've never had anything mailed to me.
Panthera
07-06-2018, 11:42 PM
What the fuck is up with cam2cam lately????!!!!
I rarely complain but when you're messing with my money and dicks I want to see, we have a problem!
No love,
One pissed off Hoe
Lots of c2c issues here too, and that really sucks because c2c is a great way of making more money. Some guys really don't even wanna see the model as much as they wanna be seen themselves! lol, Please Streamate fix this shit cause we are all losing big $$!
DeepThoughts
07-07-2018, 02:31 AM
I cannot access my "Recent Earnings" Tab or, even worse, My Client Notes!!! WTF I need those Notes!! Anyone else having issues with this?
Marina Starr
07-07-2018, 03:44 PM
Love when they took you private right away without saying a word (you already know what usually happens) and abruptly left right when they're in private and think they could get away with it. I no longer have the patience for them to come back so I can block.
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