View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
DeepThoughts
09-28-2018, 10:10 AM
^^Did you try turning up your main system volume? Go to the search or windows icon on the bottom left of your computer > Control panel > Hardware and Sound > Manage Audio Devices > Recordings tab and from there select your microphone. Choose the Levels tab and set that level up to 100! This always works for me.
anonamiss
09-28-2018, 10:30 AM
But please, as with your friend DeepThoughts, please stop trying to argue in this VENTING & Complaining thread. That's why most of us are here. I don't post often in the main SM thread so I can avoid such lectures.
like DeepThoughts said, I dont care if you vent. I'm not arguing and I'm not "lecturing." But you're "venting" on a public forum. Any post here is basically an open opportunity for discussion, regardless of the topic of the thread. That's how a forum works. If you don't want people responding to/quoting your posts, or starting discussions about your opinions, then don't post.
Funny that you told Deep to "don't be so sensitive" when you're clearly the one taking things personally and getting defensive.
MsJess
09-28-2018, 10:40 AM
My webcam microphone was at 10/100 of the level!!! (i lost a few pvts due to this) - thank you so much D, all this time i thought it was the SM broadcaster and i was cursing it all the time LOL
Gracias amiga besos y abrazos <3
^^Did you try turning up your main system volume? Go to the search or windows icon on the bottom left of your computer > Control panel > Hardware and Sound > Manage Audio Devices > Recordings tab and from there select your microphone. Choose the Levels tab and set that level up to 100! This always works for me.
DeepThoughts
09-28-2018, 11:33 AM
^^ Da Nada!
SuperPookie
09-28-2018, 01:00 PM
I remember fondly the days when SM actually had traffic instead of today where I've been on here for 5 hours without a single show.
I got disgusted and went on Cams instead and there was traffic but they were all jackasses and I just couldn't deal with it.
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
09-28-2018, 07:54 PM
I had a horrific nightmare last night that Streamate was trying their new SMconnect because they were converting to a token-style site. I'm filing this under the "complaint" category of this thread.;D:yikes::x:
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
09-28-2018, 07:57 PM
I remember fondly the days when SM actually had traffic instead of today where I've been on here for 5 hours without a single show.
I got disgusted and went on Cams instead and there was traffic but they were all jackasses and I just couldn't deal with it.
I remember when I started in Aug 2012... I would just sit in my room and not do anything (because I was so shy at the time, quite opposite now), and still get shows and make money. I have since adjusted to making money on social media and other eggs in my basket but I always liked Streamate, I'm really hoping this lull will be over.... one day.
^^^ Yes ladies, horrible shift here as well, for some of u is really this bad :(
Plus this week was terrible tech wise, the numbers got crazily low in OBS and i was not aware of it til my friend told me, the connection bar was red and i was frozen or black screen if anyone was entering my room but here everything looked fine.
Lots of disconnects too so yeah, they 'cook' something i feel, either make some changes on site or prepare a contest.
AcidYellow
09-29-2018, 08:56 AM
^^^ Yes ladies, horrible shift here as well, for some of u is really this bad :(
Plus this week was terrible tech wise, the numbers got crazily low in OBS and i was not aware of it til my friend told me, the connection bar was red and i was frozen or black screen if anyone was entering my room but here everything looked fine.
Lots of disconnects too so yeah, they 'cook' something i feel, either make some changes on site or prepare a contest.
You are right. My OBS is having these similar glitches: the bar kb/s should be in green which shows the actual speed of internet but the past days monday-wednesday was acting crazy, the lil bar was in red, yellow (making my frames/second go very low) so my stream was freezing up etc, I called my internet provider Like four times to ask wtf was going on but they told me that everything was right so i didnt have any other answer from them. Around almost a year, i had to switch from FLME to Obs because was having the same issue, now obs is acting weird..i really dont know anymore if is the software or the website. Is hard to stream like this.
JoyKitten
09-29-2018, 09:53 AM
Hi JoyKitten. You are so right about the fees that Streamate has to do. To be honest those sites being in freechat is annoying and not really my taste. So performers sit there all day and scrap up one token and not getting pad for shows for flashes when they rest of them sit and stroke for free.
You said a mouthful and seem to know the business. i been on Streamate since 2004. I also seen the enhancement of the system. I use to log on and be taken to private asap. All day long. Also performers should just keep to themselves about the percentage.. They wouldn't be on here if they wasn't making okay money etc. Streamate pays everyone on time except there was an issue with payment as far as contest in the past. They made up for it. They the only site that really gives out earnings and bonuses not for Costumes and events like other sites that gives no one chances of winning.
I just hate the part of the potential members. I went GEO so I won't be bothered with the asshole stroking and peeking from a hole watching me sit and do nothing.
I like the way you said everything above, so true. Have a good day
Thanks for the positive feedback, LadyLuv. it means a lot to me.
I love researching, so over my nearly 10 yrs of camming I've learned a lot about this biz and enjoy sharing what I've learned to help other models. When I began camming I had no mentor, or someone to show me the ropes (or warn me!).
As for the 'Potential Members', I believe that 'feature' was added because models were complaining that SM had no traffic.... yet all those guys were there watching, but we didn't know about them. They've ALWAYS been there. They're the guys on the white label sites, or even Streamate itself, but they just haven't logged in to their account (or joined.... which is what SM is hoping will happen by the guys watching our entertaining Free chat =)
And the Potential Members guys are worth considering as a part of your active 'room'. They are made-up of your regulars who are checking if you're on, or if there is simply anyone on cam who gives them enough of a chubby to sign-in and take a show with.
And then there is the issue of models who lower the ban-hammer just because a guy is sitting IN your free chat, so now they've been driven to park themselves, viewing from the public home page (as Potential Members) so they don't get banned from our active Free Chat (the practice of banning guys for sitting in my room astonishes me... why ban or kick potential customers for looking? Would the BMW dealership do that if customers were spending too much time in the showroom looking & asking questions?)
I've always had geo-blocking, so it wasn't a big deal for me when the 'feature' of showing us how many guys are actually watching, making note of the model, may even join/sign-in to take a show, now or in the future. I guess Streamate can't win! LOL If they don't show us the number of people being sent to our room via the white labels we say there's no traffic. If they DO show us who's watching, then we freak out at being spied on (but they always have been)
JoyKitten
09-29-2018, 10:09 AM
I don’t mind 35% because for the most part SM offers good traffic.
There are sites that offer 85% but very little or no traffic. 100% of no traffic is still $0, LOL!
Exactly!
The higher the percentage a site offers is in direct proportion to the LACK OF TRAFFIC offered by that site. It's the 'bring your own traffic' plan. Also, with some of them, it's wait (& wait, & wait) for your payment to be processed.
The bigger, busier sites have to PAY WEBMASTERS to send their traffic to us. With any business, porn or not, advertising is a huge expense that the business owner bears. In our case, as independent business owners, we pay for our share of the advertising budget through our revenue share. On the sites that pay 85%, they don't buy traffic, so there's nothing to come out of our pay.
(And I bet the 85% sites aren't covering your charge-backs either. If the guy asks for a refund, the site will give it to him, and YOU will be shorted 100% of it on your next payout check)
BadBitch
09-29-2018, 11:02 AM
I've also had guys coming in, having been told by some other unhappy model how awful it is that we're taken advantage of. Boo-hoo! ..... asking if I'm pissed about how little I receive of the funds customers are paying me.
Maybe I'm a teacher at heart, but I love launching into a tutorial explaining how I'm not pissed but grateful. That really makes the guys head spin! LOL
Instead of whining, I tell him how the company is doing the heavy lifting, providing me an independant place for me to work, no strings attached. I can quit any time I like, or work whatever hours whenever I like. And how we're independant contractors on Streamate which is like the barber shop he goes to (with booth rental & fees) or their local strip bar where the girls have to PAY to work before they've even made a penny.
And if I have time I'll also explain all that stuff I said in that long post (above) about webmaster & payment processor fees SM includes for us, and all the other stuff Streamate provides for us to be able to just sit down & get to work. (and unless you're in a studio, our daily commute is from the kitchen coffee pot to our bed or chair =) Plus, every expense we have, even the room we cam from & our electronic equipment & cell phone, all the way down to my lube & wet wipes used while doing this job is a business expense on our taxes!
I always end on a high note, being positive that as a business owner myself, I'm thrilled that SM makes it so easy for me to work from home AND in 8 yrs my payments arrive like clockwork (peace of mind).
And for Tropo, " At least they have made some improvements for their 65 - 70% cut", you're forgetting to take out the webmaster 'finders fee' for sending the site traffic from the hundreds of white pages & porn sites that drive horny guys to our rooms (it's difficult to do, so SM has to pay the webmasters 30% portion of our pay). That leaves SM receiving 35-40% for business expenses (listed in my prior post) and profits (which all business owners/creators are entitled to)
I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on this.
If the site were working properly, then fine. However, the site is completely glitchy. Guys are in and out because they cannot connect. What is the point of having a site for us to work on if it does not work properly.
SM also plays favorites and sends gifts to their favorite models. A company needs to show appreciate to EVERY girl who works on the site. WE are the ones doing all of the hard work and earning the site money.
C2C has not been working. A majority of the guys like to show off - but how could they when the feature does not work?
Customer service sucks. I had a few REALLY high-paying regulars who were double-charged. When they called to inquire about it, they were blocked from the site.
So, no - I am going to have to disagree with you.
DahliaSimone
09-29-2018, 11:30 AM
I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on this.
If the site were working properly, then fine. However, the site is completely glitchy. Guys are in and out because they cannot connect. What is the point of having a site for us to work on if it does not work properly.
SM also plays favorites and sends gifts to their favorite models. A company needs to show appreciate to EVERY girl who works on the site. WE are the ones doing all of the hard work and earning the site money.
C2C has not been working. A majority of the guys like to show off - but how could they when the feature does not work?
Customer service sucks. I had a few REALLY high-paying regulars who were double-charged. When they called to inquire about it, they were blocked from the site.
So, no - I am going to have to disagree with you.
This. ALL OF THIS.
XSelinex
09-29-2018, 11:31 AM
Yes,when c2c doesn't working sph,joi and cei also sissy guys just go out while they were a huge piece of my income.
SM should take a pay for c2c as on LJ, maybe then it would be finally fixed.
audritwo
09-29-2018, 11:36 AM
SM also plays favorites and sends gifts to their favorite models. A company needs to show appreciate to EVERY girl who works on the site. WE are the ones doing all of the hard work and earning the site money.
i really don't see sm playing favorites. do they promote their top earners more? sure. because they are more likely statistically to make a sale which makes the site money. i don't believe it's personal, just business. with the gifts to models. if you see sm giving out items, ask how you can get some goodies to vanessa or madison. when they were giving out shirts to models, i asked if i can have a few and they sent me some a week later. i told several models about this, and they did the same. everyone had different placement.
Customer service sucks. I had a few REALLY high-paying regulars who were double-charged. When they called to inquire about it, they were blocked from the site.
if you have issues with customer support being unfair to your customers, contact liz. i have only done this twice and she solved the issue with no problem they need to be alerted when they are costing us and the site money.
BadBitch
09-29-2018, 11:45 AM
i really don't see sm playing favorites. do they promote their top earners more? sure. because they are more likely statistically to make a sale which makes the site money. i don't believe it's personal, just business. with the gifts to models. if you see sm giving out items, ask how you can get some goodies to vanessa or madison. when they were giving out shirts to models, i asked if i can have a few and they sent me some a week later. i told several models about this, and they did the same. everyone had different placement.
if you have issues with customer support being unfair to your customers, contact liz. i have only done this twice and she solved the issue with no problem they need to be alerted when they are costing us and the site money.
Thank you. It's not so much placement. I'm high up on the page. I'm one of the top earners. It's the gold necklaces, the tees, the swag, etc. being sent to models.
Thank you. I would have definitely reached out to Liz when this happened. The customers and I now Skype. Had SM's customer service not sucked, they would not have lost high-paying customers. Their loss is my gain.
audritwo
09-29-2018, 11:57 AM
Thank you. It's not so much placement. I'm high up on the page. I'm one of the top earners. It's the gold necklaces, the tees, the swag, etc. being sent to models.
Thank you. I would have definitely reached out to Liz when this happened. The customers and I now Skype. Had SM's customer service not sucked, they would not have lost high-paying customers. Their loss is my gain.
i'm telling you have to ask for them. all the swag i've gotten from sm, i had to ask for it. most of that stuff models get from conventions too. like xbiz, cammingcon, avn, and what not. im a high up on the page too and a top earner as well and they don't send me random gifts.
BadBitch
09-29-2018, 12:20 PM
i'm telling you have to ask for them. all the swag i've gotten from sm, i had to ask for it. most of that stuff models get from conventions too. like xbiz, cammingcon, avn, and what not. im a high up on the page too and a top earner as well and they don't send me random gifts.
Right. I understand that. But, I have friends who received swag (the necklaces) and never asked, along with adorable little notes thanking the model and telling her how much they appreciate her.
When I asked for a necklace, I was told they were "all out". Yet, another model friend of mine asked for one AFTER I did and received it.
Same for tee shirts. I asked for a tee and was told that they did not have them in my size. Perhaps a coincidence? That's definitely not the case with the necklace.
Thank you for your response :)
audritwo
09-29-2018, 01:59 PM
Right. I understand that. But, I have friends who received swag (the necklaces) and never asked, along with adorable little notes thanking the model and telling her how much they appreciate her.
When I asked for a necklace, I was told they were "all out". Yet, another model friend of mine asked for one AFTER I did and received it.
Same for tee shirts. I asked for a tee and was told that they did not have them in my size. Perhaps a coincidence? That's definitely not the case with the necklace.
Thank you for your response :)
i had no idea there was necklace, so that's news to me. it could be possible they were out and got more after you asked. i agree it does come across as favorites, but i don't think it is intentional. they can do a hellava a lot better communicating on how to get items or making everyone feel included. i think it could be a coincidence and mismanaged relations. i did get a note with all my swag that seemed like a generic print out that someone signed to make it seem special.
no problem bb! maybe could you get a larger size and dyi it into a cute cut up shirt? i have been having the same issue with their tank tops. >_<
Genoveve
09-30-2018, 02:15 PM
I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on this.
If the site were working properly, then fine. However, the site is completely glitchy. Guys are in and out because they cannot connect. What is the point of having a site for us to work on if it does not work properly.
I've been on SM for years and it is very rare for me to have glitches.
SuperPookie
09-30-2018, 02:38 PM
I'm sorry to have to disagree with you on this.
If the site were working properly, then fine. However, the site is completely glitchy. Guys are in and out because they cannot connect. What is the point of having a site for us to work on if it does not work properly.
SM also plays favorites and sends gifts to their favorite models. A company needs to show appreciate to EVERY girl who works on the site. WE are the ones doing all of the hard work and earning the site money.
C2C has not been working. A majority of the guys like to show off - but how could they when the feature does not work?
Customer service sucks. I had a few REALLY high-paying regulars who were double-charged. When they called to inquire about it, they were blocked from the site.
So, no - I am going to have to disagree with you.
So much this! I don't mind paying a high percentage in exchange for traffic and a working site but when there are multiple problems all day every day and I might sit in my room 15minutes plus without anyone coming in and support is nonexistent I do mind.
anonymous camgirl
09-30-2018, 05:33 PM
OMG!.. I was thinking the same thing yesterday!.. Praying to god that SM NEVER turns into a token site.. they are one of the last remaining sites that is not that I know of.. Most are shitty token sites.. this would totally be my worst nitemare..
I had a horrific nightmare last night that Streamate was trying their new SMconnect because they were converting to a token-style site. I'm filing this under the "complaint" category of this thread.;D:yikes::x:
euro_princess
09-30-2018, 06:43 PM
I was online this Sunday after a few days of break and honestly it wasn't bad at all. With all those complaints, I imagined the end of the world.
My frames went nuts a single time in 5 hours and the phone service dropped during a call, but worked perfectly fine after. C2C was alright, a little bit of delay, but that's always the case. Can't say I couldn't make $$$ because of the glitches. Traffic was there and reliable.
IvyRose
10-01-2018, 01:43 AM
I was online this Sunday after a few days of break and honestly it wasn't bad at all. With all those complaints, I imagined the end of the world.
My frames went nuts a single time in 5 hours and the phone service dropped during a call, but worked perfectly fine after. C2C was alright, a little bit of delay, but that's always the case. Can't say I couldn't make $$$ because of the glitches. Traffic was there and reliable.
Same experience, I was online saturday and all worked well and made new custies and had good traffic.
Friday I was in a rush and i made only a fraction of my normal hourly. Was rwady to blame the site but in reality had only myself to blame. Rush, stress3d out and to pushy for sales never did my room any good.
Saturday new mindset and earnings where normal and even doubled at a given point.
jigglypuff
10-01-2018, 06:41 AM
I've been waiting for what seems like forever for SM support to get back to me on a really important issue. I wish they had other ways to contact them *sigh*
euro_princess
10-01-2018, 06:52 AM
I've been waiting for what seems like forever for SM support to get back to me on a really important issue. I wish they had other ways to contact them *sigh*
[email protected]
jigglypuff
10-01-2018, 07:11 AM
[email protected]
Thank you so much! I will try her email as well. I've been using the contact support page on their website without much success but I'm sure they're pretty busy.
BadBitch
10-02-2018, 01:42 PM
My first private in 2 hours that i've been sitting here. Guy tries to put on his cam and it boots him out of the show.
Fuck you, sm.
Fuck you.
So i've got the OhMiBod Esca toy and used it for the last 3 days with SMConnect but the toy goes offline on itself now and then (not sure why) plus it has to be recharged after 2-2.5 hrs of use, is this normal or is my toy broken (the battery)??!!
Sunday i had many tips of 1 gold at a time several times (the vibes are very strong by the way) and was thinking that's why it went off power but last nite i had less tips and of more value so it vibrated less but after approx 2.5 hrs it went off power again.
What gives, is this normal? Should i set it w.o light on? Cause when online i can have the light on or off, maybe that will save power?!
If u guys have the toy pls give input, thank you!
By the way, it works great on SMConnect, pity there is no Cam2Cam yet :(
kamiliam
10-02-2018, 02:17 PM
So i've got the OhMiBod Esca toy and used it for the last 3 days with SMConnect but the toy goes offline on itself now and then (not sure why) plus it has to be recharged after 2-2.5 hrs of use, is this normal or is my toy broken (the battery)??!!
Sunday i had many tips of 1 gold at a time several times (the vibes are very strong by the way) and was thinking that's why it went off power but last nite i had less tips and of more value so it vibrated less but after approx 2.5 hrs it went off power again.
What gives, is this normal? Should i set it w.o light on? Cause when online i can have the light on or off, maybe that will save power?!
If u guys have the toy pls give input, thank you!
By the way, it works great on SMConnect, pity there is no Cam2Cam yet :(
The battery life is horrendous on that thing.
The battery life is horrendous on that thing.
You say that because u have it or because of what i posted myself here?!
kamiliam
10-02-2018, 02:48 PM
You say that because u have it or because of what i posted myself here?!
I have it, will probably get a second one for when sm connect fully works
I have it, will probably get a second one for when sm connect fully works
Ty!!! So it's not broken just has a short life time battery, omg!!!
Yeah, to be able to keep it on all the time while on cam if u cam for 4-5 hrs shifts as i do i'll need a 2nd one or to take a break to recharge it. Ugh!!
BadBitch
10-02-2018, 03:36 PM
HOW CAN I FUCKING WORK ON A GODDAMN FUCKING SITE WHEN EVERY FUCKING GUY HAS BEEN TELLING ME THAT MY AUDIO/VIDEO IS NOT IN SYNC. I'VE FUCKING HAD IT WITH THIS FUCKING SITE. STREAMATE, YOU'RE A FUCKING JOKE! YOU KNOW THAT????? A FUCKING JOKE! HOW THE FUCK CAN i MAKE MONEY WHEN NO ONE IS STAYING IN MY ROOM BECAUSE THERE IS A DELAY? HOW CAN I FUCKING MAKE ANY MONEY WITH C2C DOES NOT WORK? YET, YOU FUCKING TAKE THE MAJORITY OF MY FUCKING MONEY? MONEY THAT I HAVE TO FUCKING HUSTLE TO FUCKING MAKE. YOU'RE ALL NEED TO GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND FIX YOUR FUCKING SITE.
BubblyBlonde
10-03-2018, 12:37 AM
HOW CAN I FUCKING WORK ON A GODDAMN FUCKING SITE WHEN EVERY FUCKING GUY HAS BEEN TELLING ME THAT MY AUDIO/VIDEO IS NOT IN SYNC. I'VE FUCKING HAD IT WITH THIS FUCKING SITE. STREAMATE, YOU'RE A FUCKING JOKE! YOU KNOW THAT????? A FUCKING JOKE! HOW THE FUCK CAN i MAKE MONEY WHEN NO ONE IS STAYING IN MY ROOM BECAUSE THERE IS A DELAY? HOW CAN I FUCKING MAKE ANY MONEY WITH C2C DOES NOT WORK? YET, YOU FUCKING TAKE THE MAJORITY OF MY FUCKING MONEY? MONEY THAT I HAVE TO FUCKING HUSTLE TO FUCKING MAKE. YOU'RE ALL NEED TO GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASSES AND FIX YOUR FUCKING SITE.
My audio and video go out of sync after I do a show. Since guys don’t always tell me I am out of sync I just make a habit of ending the stream and restarting it. Sucks when I find out I’m out of sync and I probably lost money because of it.
C2C is another deal breaker for customers. A lot of guys end the show when the cam doesn’t work. It’s such a big deal to them. Personally I can do without the feature, but I guess they really want us to see their dicks. And there is the terrible echoing when they have their audio on. The solution to that though is tell them they need headphones otherwise it makes a terrible sound.
pussyhoe
10-03-2018, 10:57 AM
I really don't think webcam or SM sucks. The more I think about it the more i can't help but think about how low the quality of men are that come on there now adays. It's almost normal to expect a low rating when you refuse to break the rules or do something you're not comfortable with. The worse the quality of spending men get the more I think we feel the burn and the more models start to troll. There's models who openly bash other girls in their camgirl friends rooms. I see it all the time especially on slow days. It never used to be this way. Yes. There's good guys still but they are far outnumbered by the creatures from hell who come onto to these cam sites. Some of these guys get a kick out of going private and demanding a full show in 1 minute and logging out and rating low. I feel like many guys have this planned when they log into sm. I'm not stuck on what am use to be because those days are far gone. It would just be nice if the private based site I signed up to didn't hop on the cheap token site band wagon. No,I'm not hating on those who *doubled their income* with tip vibes (hand claps to you) but a blind man can see how low quality it's all become. How much longer can we keep faking organisms in free chat because someone vibes us with a whopping $1 tip? How long can girls train guys to expect free ass and puss flashes before they go room to room demanding *show pussy now* or *dildo ass now* , oh wait, that's already happening. Good quality girls who actually charge for flashes is becoming more rare by the minute. Girls actually pride themselves in being cheap now. Recently I heard a model say *oh I'm not an expensive rip off like the others, I'll never charge xyz* like ok cool be cheap but dont knock those of us who price ourselves higher. Those doing the most for free or dirt cheap wont be here another 5 years because they will burn out. Sure, you may be winning now and banking but the appeal will become less and less and guys will catch on stop buying into to this *fake orgasm for $1* bs and maybe, just maybe we can get sm back to a private based site. And God for bid I check the main page it's a bunch of vaginas busted wide open in free chat with those God dammed to vibes. Way to go sm . Way. To. Go.
^^^ SM went downhill for many of us including myself since they introduced gold shows back in 2011, then girls got cheaper and cheaper and offered more and more for peanuts.
I flash tits for 5 gold total and up, I don't do gold shows, yes the vibe toy helps because I get to keep my money right away not like with gs's where u need to make a certain amount and get paid after the show.
Only in private I insert the toy, in freechat I keep it in my panties and never fake orgasms but tell the guys it feels great. I invite them in Pvt for more. I wish models would keep a high standard for how they sell their performance but no matter what we say in here some will sell themselves cheap. I got trolls in my room saying I am cheap cause I ask for only 5 gold for a tit flash so I felt she is a model or studio guy or so. Considering some do 0$ or $1 gs's I think $5 is decent for a tit flash. I got tired fighting with what SM became or looking what others do, I wish things would work better but can't help it, SM changed Soo much ...
pussyhoe
10-03-2018, 11:26 AM
^^^ SM went downhill for many of us including myself since they introduced gold shows back in 2011, then girls got cheaper and cheaper and offered more and more for peanuts.
I flash tits for 5 gold total and up, I don't do gold shows, yes the vibe toy helps because I got to keep my money right away not like with gs's where u need to make a certain amount and get paid after the show. Only in private I insert the toy, in freechat I keep it in my panties and never fake orgasms but tell the guys it feels great. I invite them in Pvt for more. I wish models would keep a high standard for how they sell their performance but no matter what we say in here some will sell themselves cheap. I got trolls in my room saying I am cheap cause I ask for only 5 gold for a tit flash so I felt she is a model or studio guy or so. Considering some do 0$ or $1 gs's I think $5 is decent for a tit flash. I got tired fighting with what SM became or looking what others do, I wish things would work better but can't help it, SM changed Soo much ...
Absolutely. I agree with you 100%. My issue is the girls who are turning it into a full out pussy vibe $1 show in free chat. I can see If I was logged into a token site but I am not. And at least you charge for flashes, many do not. The potential member box and the message sm sent us telling us to *entice* them to spend is prob really just them saying *do more for less* and we will give you better placement etc.
xxxluv
10-03-2018, 12:00 PM
I just got back to camming more so on SM then anything in the past I never really gave SM a good try and just focused on content, indy, etc.
So, now I'm trying to get all the coins and decide to give it a go again.
I see what you ladies and so many other people I know go through honestly. Im not worried about the cheapos, the guys who say dumb things, the ones who promise long pvt but can't tip $3 (my price) for me to stand but ask for it repeatedly.
Im so not concern with anyone's prices I use to look at people's prices especially when I used to be on CB/MFC. But nope not my concern because the guys who aren't haggling , who are not comparing me to others prices, who aren't say to expensive, who pay with no hesitation. Just send gold because they sitting in my room are the only thing im concerned about and guess What!!!??!!!
Yesterday and Today Good tippers, ones getting exclusive shows are getting kicked out so of course they may try again a few times but it surely kills the fantasy / mood.
They posted a SMConnect update in the News section on our Dashboard, all good with the sound but i want Cam2cam!! That is a huge one! I sent feedback already including the cam2cam request. I hope they working on it & will launch the thing soon.
Absolutely. I agree with you 100%. My issue is the girls who are turning it into a full out pussy vibe $1 show in free chat. I can see If I was logged into a token site but I am not. And at least you charge for flashes, many do not. The potential member box and the message sm sent us telling us to *entice* them to spend is prob really just them saying *do more for less* and we will give you better placement etc.
Even if we do more for less this will become very quickly counterproductive because there are only soo many good spots placement wise and we are up to 2k online at a time sometimes, they can't offer everyone good placement lol.
I stick to my medium fees per min and $5 minimum for tits flash, under that I would feel undervalued and that is a feeling I don't need after camming for 18 years now.
I'll never understand how some people are ok with selling their performance low but whatever, they must have reasons (personal reasons or studio policy, who knows, I also believe some are pushed by their partner or family to make money).
DeepThoughts
10-04-2018, 08:25 AM
I charge 10 gold for a flash or to stand up. I charge an arm and a leg for private and double that for exclusive and I moan my head off when a guy tips me any amount. I bank everyday and I rarely to never have any guy treat me poorly or try to get me to do a whole show in one min. I also use GS its a great tool especially during certain parts of the months when lots of guys are lower on cash. If guys complain I really take no notice of it for me its a game and I dont play the game so they just kind of fade away. If there are other models on the site doing this different from me I dont care. I dont check them. I dont critique their hustle and most of all I dont even feel threatened by them. Go do you.
I tried to do a token site with my same attitude and I made 6 bucks. And the guy who gave me the 6 bucks for tits then questioned why pussy wasnt included in the price. On those sites Im expected to show it all and do it all in the HOPES that guys will then tip me for it. I dont work like that and the site was not flexible, there was no room for models like me, and yet a site like SM does cater to both the "Tip style" room and the "Pay to play" room. Thats why its great. You can set your own room and live by your own rules on SM. I think the problem is not the "quality" of men or how other models run their rooms or their mouths its that you're watching. It effects you cause you're just there watching instead of doing what you do to make $ in your own room.
I still dont get the cam girl police. Im not going to support it ever even if this is SM venting complaining blah blah blah. We are stronger together. Stop critiquing other Models hustles. Get out of other models rooms. Ironically we all complain about freeloaders or the guys that pop in and out but how many of them are actually other catty models popping in our room to critique us? Let a model do what a model gotta do and let SM police their own damn site.
I wish to tell top models that the way business work for them is a lot different than it works for most models on SM, when u are on page 2, 3, 4 things feel a lot different, u get little to no traffic & is a challenge to make the guys spend on you.
I been on page one and now I am not anymore, I know the difference, when u rely on the traffic SM sends you it's different than when u promote urself heavily and are present everywhere and have a huge following.
That's why there is a big difference of hustle, fees and performance, everyone is doing it's best to make a living on cam & work with what they get as traffic.
I talk in general here with a neutral tone, yes I love SM for the way it works cause trying token sites myself was painful, on MFC they made terrible comments like "But you are fat", I was "yeah, so what?". It felt like I was not supposed to be there u know, same happened on CB or Bonga, only on SM I can make money I see, any other site is not good for me.
No matter what page I am on I get the guys that spend on me still so I'll continue to cam there for as long as I can cam. Cheers!
SoloDesire
10-04-2018, 10:30 AM
The sooner we realize that not all camgirls are created equal and can cam the same way, the sooner we realize that the same thing doesn't work for everyone. Not everyone can charge high prices and still make good money. I, for one am a lazy camgirl...I much prefer to charge a low rate for pvt and do very little, and charge a bit more for exclusive and throw in all the bells and whistles. That way I can draw in a crowd for pretty much anything. Different strokes for different folks.
PixiieGirl
10-04-2018, 10:35 AM
the past two days have been so dead for me :/
AcidYellow
10-04-2018, 11:47 AM
I wish to tell top models that the way business work for them is a lot different than it works for most models on SM, when u are on page 2, 3, 4 things feel a lot different, u get little to no traffic & is a challenge to make the guys spend on you.
I been on page one and now I am not anymore, I know the difference, when u rely on the traffic SM sends you it's different than when u promote urself heavily and are present everywhere and have a huge following.
That's why there is a big difference of hustle, fees and performance, everyone is doing it's best to make a living on cam & work with what they get as traffic.
I talk in general here with a neutral tone, yes I love SM for the way it works cause trying token sites myself was painful, on MFC they made terrible comments like "But you are fat", I was "yeah, so what?". It felt like I was not supposed to be there u know, same happened on CB or Bonga, only on SM I can make money I see, any other site is not good for me.
No matter what page I am on I get the guys that spend on me still so I'll continue to cam there for as long as I can cam. Cheers!
I totally agree with u. Love this.
DahliaSimone
10-04-2018, 01:46 PM
......aaaaaaaaaaaaaand c2c not working costs me yet another show. I lose SO MANY pvts and exclusives due to this....I really dont think SM realizes how vital a feature it is, for some of us at least. For some reason men have this innate urge to show us their cocks, so we can fawn over it (more like yawn over it, amiright?) but as soon as that c2c rears its ugly head and doesnt work, they leave. Fuckin fix it SM. Goddamn. Why do we have to bitch and beg for the site to due their goddamn job? If they would do their job, I could do my job. Hand in hand. Stupid fucks.
XO_Alice
10-04-2018, 11:14 PM
When SM is good, good. But, ffs, you KNOW all is not well when your SM room has been deader than a doornail three days on and fucking IL nets you more traffic! I have faith that SM will fix itself, but fuck is it disappointing rn...Just fired up an account on Many Vids. I'm over sitting around on SM while they get it together.
AcidYellow
10-04-2018, 11:57 PM
When SM is good, good. But, ffs, you KNOW all is not well when your SM room has been deader than a doornail three days on and fucking IL nets you more traffic! I have faith that SM will fix itself, but fuck is it disappointing rn...Just fired up an account on Many Vids. I'm over sitting around on SM while they get it together.
Yes¡ my room today was dead aswell, SM is a nice site but when is to be dead or glitchy, hell, is a complete nightmare. I hope to make up today and tmrw saturday for the past days that were so so.
anonamiss
10-05-2018, 02:37 AM
Lots of "user connection errors" tonight. People told me they would click on my picture but it would just get stuck on the loading screen. Also apparently kept getting the glitch where the customer says the screen saying I'm in a private show pops up randomly, when I'm just hanging out in free chat. That would explain all the times nearly everyone in my room vanished simultaneously.
Seriously... If SM is going to tell guys I'm in a show when I'm not, I should be compensated. The guys think I'm performing and getting paid when I'm really just sitting in free chat in some weird limbo until they refresh. So stupid.