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Ginnyyy
10-11-2018, 10:18 AM
Streamate, you owe me $39 for a VPN. I bought it to check my feed every so often on a non camming laptop just so I could be aware of any glitches in real time or so. Thought I am not geoblocked, my country is one of the several countries who cannot access SM at all.

LittleSexBunny
10-11-2018, 03:30 PM
Streamate, you owe me $39 for a VPN. I bought it to check my feed every so often on a non camming laptop just so I could be aware of any glitches in real time or so. Thought I am not geoblocked, my country is one of the several countries who cannot access SM at all.

i had to buy one also lol.

for other reasons though... i feel ya

KatM
10-11-2018, 04:06 PM
^^^ Puffin browser for PC or phone is free and does the job pretty well ����

KRV_xo
10-11-2018, 05:42 PM
Anyone notice the geo restriction block not working for them? I used to google my cam name and not see my streamate page and now it’s the second one when i do a google search.

Ginnyyy
10-12-2018, 12:28 AM
^^^ Puffin browser for PC or phone is free and does the job pretty well ����

Got Private Internet Access. An admin from another camming site who fixed some settings on my back then new PC 3years ago recommended to me when he saw I was using the shitty HotspotShield. I like it so far. Already installed it on 5devices :))

naomi_doll
10-12-2018, 07:46 AM
Question about being paid by SM working under a rep: My $$$ is sent to rep(virtual studio), who pays me. Is $$$ sent to them in my name or theirs? Being paid from my performer account it should arrive in my name ? Thx

Why do you ask? Are you having issues with your studio? The only other thing I could think of is that you were trying to tax dodge, but I don't want to accuse you of that.

Glamourmilf
10-12-2018, 04:10 PM
50495
Normally I would block someone who asks me to do this, but I felt his frustration, and I just had to keep telling him no. Look, he even got disconnected and tried AGAIN to convince me to use Facetime. Desperate to show me his cock and to watch him cum.
This goes on every time I'm in a session. I think the site is broken. or at least the c2c option is.
In the 8 solid years I've been on SM, I have never experienced this. ALL the time. Some of the time, yes, but EVERY SINGLE TIME? So sad to see this site, (and my income) go down so dramatically.:'(

AcidYellow
10-12-2018, 04:24 PM
50495
Normally I would block someone who asks me to do this, but I felt his frustration, and I just had to keep telling him no. Look, he even got disconnected and tried AGAIN to convince me to use Facetime. Desperate to show me his cock and to watch him cum.
This goes on every time I'm in a session. I think the site is broken. or at least the c2c option is.
In the 8 solid years I've been on SM, I have never experienced this. ALL the time. Some of the time, yes, but EVERY SINGLE TIME? So sad to see this site, (and my income) go down so dramatically.:'(
Same here. Some cams work some dont, mostly when they try in exclusive, works, is weird. But today im having a lot of tech issues plus zero traffic, aahhh and also a lot of User conections when they leave my room.

anonamiss
10-12-2018, 07:10 PM
50495
Normally I would block someone who asks me to do this, but I felt his frustration, and I just had to keep telling him no. Look, he even got disconnected and tried AGAIN to convince me to use Facetime. Desperate to show me his cock and to watch him cum.
This goes on every time I'm in a session. I think the site is broken. or at least the c2c option is.
In the 8 solid years I've been on SM, I have never experienced this. ALL the time. Some of the time, yes, but EVERY SINGLE TIME? So sad to see this site, (and my income) go down so dramatically.:'(

as much as it sucks, I would personally block in this instance just because I'm overly paranoid of a guy repeating a word like "FaceTime" over and over again. I would worry it could trigger some auto bot/algorithm to think I'm trying to go off site and thus give me an instant suspension. I've had to block a few guys who have good intentions but insist on going off the site so things work better. I'm not going to take the chance of even discussing it on a SM chat.

In my experience the Microsoft Edge browser seems to be the most reliable/stable for c2c.

xxxGothBarbie
10-12-2018, 07:45 PM
Last time I cammed on SM I got an exclusive within 10 mins of being in free chat with a nice guy that seemed to wanna talk about horror movies only to have him kicked of twice & he didn't return after :( I haven't worked on there since. Nobody fucks with my coin.

anonamiss
10-13-2018, 04:54 AM
had a seemingly nice guy go exclusive and play for 10 minutes before he decided to ask if i would meet up. ugh. such a mood killer. i tried to play it off flirty but sternly, and ultimately he logged off and gave me a bad rating. i blocked him and emailed tech support to get the bad rating removed, and to block him from the site in general. lame. :/

throughout the night i was dodging all kinds of dating/meet up questions in free chat. i seriously hate that white labels are apparently still allowed to advertise as if we are part of a dating site, particularly in the age of fosta-sesta. i truly think that kind of false advertising should be forbidden.

tropo
10-13-2018, 06:47 AM
Streamate, you owe me $39 for a VPN. I bought it to check my feed every so often on a non camming laptop just so I could be aware of any glitches in real time or so. Thought I am not geoblocked, my country is one of the several countries who cannot access SM at all.

If you have set the setting that only people with accounts with credit cards can view you, that would also prevent you from seeing yourself. I can't see myself for that reason. Also, try Opera browser. It has a built in VPN with unlimited data use. (You have to turn it on). I used to pay for a VPN service to view certain sites, but it stopped working in my country, now I use Opera and it works like a dream - for free. If that doesn't work, try Tunnelbear. You can have a free account with 500MB data limit per month, which might be enough for your task.

Glamourmilf
10-13-2018, 07:15 AM
as much as it sucks, I would personally block in this instance just because I'm overly paranoid of a guy repeating a word like "FaceTime" over and over again. I would worry it could trigger some auto bot/algorithm to think I'm trying to go off site and thus give me an instant suspension. I've had to block a few guys who have good intentions but insist on going off the site so things work better. I'm not going to take the chance of even discussing it on a SM chat.

In my experience the Microsoft Edge browser seems to be the most reliable/stable for c2c.

Yes, I agree. ^ I'm going to tell guys to use that. Is it available on phones and tablets and iPads too?
That's why I initially screenshot him. I take a screenshot when any guy tries to take me off site, or if he asks for anything against site rules.
Then I have proof, and sm will also have the recording of what I said in return. I said no, and that I've never even heard of that. I never even repeated the word back to him.
If they say anything in free chat about Skype or Kik, etc, that's an immediate block.

innocentindian
10-13-2018, 09:07 AM
Usually guys don't even bother telling me what issues they're having, but this guy is saying Streamate is totally broke >:(

50497

This could also explain all the random ins and outs

christyondemand
10-13-2018, 10:44 AM
Usually guys don't even bother telling me what issues they're having, but this guy is saying Streamate is totally broke >:(

50497

This could also explain all the random ins and outs

Something is going on, that's for sure. Couldn't get a single join into any of my gold shows. I was told from regular customers that they couldn't give gold and that it was glitchy. So, no telling. In this instance I'm thinking some hardcore maintenance is going on. Fingers crossed it gets better so we can all bank!

Ari_star
10-13-2018, 11:30 AM
I really hope so I've managed to get 34 dollars all week and that's adding in an extra 6 hour night shift I usually hit my goal just on my UK day times as I have a fair few usa regs that come on late night for them but this week I lost my biggest whale 3 times he attempted to take me exclusive couldn't even tip me for my room getting emptied each time he tried said sorry this site is killing his mood off he went I pray to cam gods he comes back he alone is like 30% of my monthly income at least sometimes he literally covers my goal alone

DahliaSimone
10-14-2018, 11:09 AM
I wish theyd fucking fix C2C....it costs me SO MANY shows. Seriously, just lost my first excl. of the day because its not working. I just dont understand why SM refuses to fix their broken site.....

BadBitch
10-14-2018, 11:17 AM
50495
Normally I would block someone who asks me to do this, but I felt his frustration, and I just had to keep telling him no. Look, he even got disconnected and tried AGAIN to convince me to use Facetime. Desperate to show me his cock and to watch him cum.
This goes on every time I'm in a session. I think the site is broken. or at least the c2c option is.
In the 8 solid years I've been on SM, I have never experienced this. ALL the time. Some of the time, yes, but EVERY SINGLE TIME? So sad to see this site, (and my income) go down so dramatically.:'(

I had someone REALLY wanting for me to rate his dick. He couldn't connect C2C. So, I had him email me his pics and vids to my email. Fuck that. I don't care about goddamn rules if SM's shitty-ass site may prevent me from making money.

Fuck you, SM.

BadBitch
10-14-2018, 11:18 AM
I wish theyd fucking fix C2C....it costs me SO MANY shows. Seriously, just lost my first excl. of the day because its not working. I just dont understand why SM refuses to fix their broken site.....

Because they suck and could give two shits about us.

KatM
10-16-2018, 04:01 AM
Totally waste of time, i sat here for 2 hrs making nothing, just in and outs til this guy came in to let me know he cant tip.
Of course he came back & he could not tip or pvt me :'(:'(:'(
Is anyone making money on SM this week??!!

50511

pussyhoe
10-16-2018, 06:14 AM
Totally waste of time, i sat here for 2 hrs making nothing, just in and outs til this guy came in to let me know he cant tip.
Of course he came back & he could not tip or pvt me :'(:'(:'(
Is anyone making money on SM this week??!!

50511

as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

Glamourmilf
10-16-2018, 06:50 AM
Totally waste of time, i sat here for 2 hrs making nothing, just in and outs til this guy came in to let me know he cant tip.
Of course he came back & he could not tip or pvt me :'(:'(:'(
Is anyone making money on SM this week??!!

50511


as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

It was around year 3 of my time on Streamate, when I realized this.
I even posted it in the sm thread at the time.
They definitely have 'controllers' for sure.

KatM
10-16-2018, 08:59 AM
^^^ I tried more, i swear, i asked guys if they see the gold button, some said yes some not, i got a nice tip and some small tips but no shows.
This is not me i tell u, we are being played, i make no money here.
Ok, whatever, logging off now knowing this week is being compromised.
I am not important on site so many guys cant tip or pvt me during this contest.
I dont care about placing but at least to make some money...
If i had a member account to look up myself how it looks like on the other side... but i dont have so yeah... whatever :(

anonymous camgirl
10-16-2018, 09:15 AM
as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

I have always KNOWN this.. I used to work on IMLIVE and one of the guys who works on the website itself.. I forgot what his job was but it was tech.. I went to the INTERNEXT convention with IMLIVE and one of the guys admitted to one of the other girls I was with that they can and do divert traffic to certain camgirls.. All cam sites can do this.. I mentioned this to a customer and I ended up getting blacklisted now for 9 yrs. I tried applying about 3 times since then and they never will let me work on there again.. I have gotten terminated from cam sites before and re apply in a year or 2 but this one.. NOPE they black listed me because I know their secrets.

kiki399
10-16-2018, 11:39 AM
Is it only me or what? I am having some stupid serious glitches, c2c not working, phone not working in exclusive and now I go straight into limbo too and my rankings are all excellent. Then earlier my page would not even load, I am so frustrated. I am like freaking invisible and when I come back onto the site, shit doesn't work for any of the guys in private and exclusive

DahliaSimone
10-16-2018, 02:17 PM
I messaged support because im fucking tired of C2C not working....their response? Tell the customer to file a report with them. Excuse me? Has ANYONE here had a dude stay after he sees C2C not working? At least long enough to tell them to file a report, when all they want to do is jack off? Instead of fixing the goddamn problem, just file reports, ya'll. They truly give zero fucks.

DahliaSimone
10-16-2018, 02:21 PM
Im livid. Its like these stupid fucks who are our 'support' (using that term as loosely as possible) have absolutely no idea how a camshow works. Nothing. And the even stupider fucks who run the technical side of the site, just genuinly dont care that their site is broken and driving customers away in droves. I just dont get it....who doesnt care about their moneymaker? Seriously? Fuck Im pissed.

tropo
10-16-2018, 02:40 PM
Im livid. Its like these stupid fucks who are our 'support' (using that term as loosely as possible) have absolutely no idea how a camshow works. Nothing. And the even stupider fucks who run the technical side of the site, just genuinly dont care that their site is broken and driving customers away in droves. I just dont get it....who doesnt care about their moneymaker? Seriously? Fuck Im pissed.

The truth is that any one of us are only 1/1000 of their active model count, so they stupidly don't realise their problem is bigger than they think it is. Not many models are career models that work years on end, so casual models just go away and are constantly replaced by new ones. This helps keep lots of fresh faces around, so they don't mind model turnover. Apart from AW, I've never come across worse customer service. It's a waste of time contacting them. They don't even use names when replying. The last time I contacted them was 3 years ago.

sovereignv
10-16-2018, 03:47 PM
as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

Dude I'm sorry but I hope nobody takes this conspiracy bullshit to heart. For every dollar you make Streamate makes money too, they have every incentive in the world to make it as easy as possible for as many girls as possible to make money. Why would they purposefully turn off your ability to make money? They still have to pay for your stream to be hosted on their servers and shit, if you're not earning money that's a net negative for them.

I know working on Streamate can suck ass sometimes and I'm not a top girl by any means but getting into this paranoid obsessive mindstate isn't going to help you guys at all.

Blaize
10-16-2018, 04:10 PM
I just got my first show, but the dang person didn't even say anything, even when I asked, so I wasn't sure what to do...

Erika_Xstacy
10-16-2018, 04:13 PM
There is one site glitch i am sure about.

guys complain they cant go private. I assumed and I assume Im being trolled.
Regulars complained

I took myself private, it kicked me out and I would see this performer is in show. My instant thought was I hope Im not being charged and then am i being double charged if I go back in?

I wasnt double charged.

Going prv and kicked out is bad

kamiliam
10-16-2018, 04:20 PM
I just got my first show, but the dang person didn't even say anything, even when I asked, so I wasn't sure what to do...

yeah you will get quite a few of those. Even worse when they turn their cam on and just stare at you. I just do a general order of acts and hope it works lol

shysara79
10-16-2018, 04:29 PM
Hey Guys .. By any chance does anyone have any ideas as to what would cause constant adjusting of bitrate using the FMLE encoder.. well actually any encoder including sm bc? It started about a week ago and I can not for the life of me figure it out.

I know its not the internet.
I also know its not the computer
I use a C920 cam but really have not had issues with it
I played with lighting and that is not the issue either. as I have tried it a million different ways Any help is much appreciated.

Have not been able to work in a week over this. Had internet head up here to make sure it was not internet causing it and it is not..

I tried to use SM Broadcast and it optimized me at 864/480 due to fluctuating bitrate issue....

50517

JoyKitten
10-16-2018, 04:52 PM
^^^ I dont geoblock cause i dont have a member account to check on my placement and feed, i often found myself on page 6 then i looked up ranking page and i saw it said NO HD, NO Sound, NO Wide screen!!! so i had to reset session and get back to my usual spot.
Even now when typing i checked up my placement and i am way behind for no apparent reason as my parameters are all Excellent in Ranking page, i stream with a little over 2000kb/sec, fps are 30 and no dropped frames.
I hope it'll fix itself at a point cause i reset the session and still the same, way behind on page 5-6 as this morning was on page 2!!

6 months ago (or so) EVERYTHING with our placement changed. SM Models MUST understand that you can't be using the old way of judging your placement, because that no longer exists. If you're looking at what YOU see on the site, and judge that it's also what all the customers see (which was the OLD WAY), then you're simply making yourself crazy & stressed out, which is never good for your business. A tense, stressed cam model can't' perform at her best. So it's important to understand HOW OUR PLACEMENT IS NOW SHOWN TO CUSTOMERS.

It's for the better, for ALL of us. Here's why.

Streamate has totally changed how we appear on the public home page AND on the members only (signed-in) pages. About 6 months ago when our placement was scrambled, so it appears to US that we're no longer on the front pages/lines like we use to be. This is not true! The new way our placement is sent out to each customer is completely customized. The line-up you see will look totally different to each & every member on the site. It's actually a good thing for all models.

It was explained to me that each member will see models who have similar qualities (age, looks, boobs, tags, etc.) that he's recently spent money on. So rather than the old way where it was always the same high ranking girls on page 1, & down the line so-on. NOW customers are shown a choice of top models who are like the ones who he's spent with before.

If a guy is a lookie-Lou member who never actually takes a show (so the system can send him more of that), he will keep being sent a random selection of models.... with the hope that one of these new list of top row models will entice him to finally spend on the site.

What this means for us is that ALL models will appear on some guys top rows at some time. Of course just as before, the busiest models (larger earning models) are on the highest rows. But on slower days with less models, if you're the kind of model a guy usually spends with YOU could be appearing on his first lines. This is a much better system for us models than the old way.

Altho the downside is that we no longer can gauge our 'site placement', which I personally find maddening! (Because it makes me crazy to not know where I stand in placement, I suggested they create a seperate 'Model Ranking' list, but was told that instead of motivating models, some models may feel dejected & unmotivated by such a list.... so I don't think a model ranking list is in the stars for us)

I think the most pro-active thing all of us should do is always asking the guys in our Free Chat to favorite us (using the little heart button) so we'll always appear on his personal top row of available models, even before the random models SM shows him that are within his 'spending category'. Being on a guys Favorites list is a huge benefit to us, and him =) And, altho the site doesn't say so, I suspect being 'favorited' factors into some part of SM's demographics metrics, & ultimately our placement.... directly or in directly because ultimately our placement is decided by how much money we're bringing into the site during our time streaming. So, if you have guys finding you because you're on their favorites, it makes sense that one of these days you'll catch them when they're horny & have funds, & you'll get a show with them.

innocentindian
10-16-2018, 04:52 PM
I just got my first show, but the dang person didn't even say anything, even when I asked, so I wasn't sure what to do...

Those are the worst, haha. Sometimes the guy is on his phone and it's too hard to type, other times they can't hear you talking. I usually sit there and smile and ask out loud (and also type), "What would you like to do? Wanna get me naked?" and just do a clothed tease until they respond with something. If they just say "Yes" and nothing else, just do a general sexy show showing off your body and playing with yourself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Marina Starr
10-16-2018, 04:52 PM
How old is your modem/router? They MAY be bad.


Hey Guys .. By any chance does anyone have any ideas as to what would cause constant adjusting of bitrate using the FMLE encoder.. well actually any encoder including sm bc? It started about a week ago and I can not for the life of me figure it out.

I know its not the internet.
I also know its not the computer
I use a C920 cam but really have not had issues with it
I played with lighting and that is not the issue either. as I have tried it a million different ways Any help is much appreciated.

Have not been able to work in a week over this. Had internet head up here to make sure it was not internet causing it and it is not..

I tried to use SM Broadcast and it optimized me at 864/480 due to fluctuating bitrate issue....

50517

shysara79
10-16-2018, 04:57 PM
Brand new Just got it today. But I think the one before it was brand new as well. I have had the internet people here twice this past week thinking it was an internet issue.. which it isn't.

Marina Starr
10-16-2018, 05:00 PM
Sorry you're having issues. Same thing happened to me then it finally stopped. I hope your internet is hardwired.

Brand new Just got it today. But I think the one before it was brand new as well. I have had the internet people here twice this past week thinking it was an internet issue.. which it isn't.

shysara79
10-16-2018, 05:21 PM
Sorry you're having issues. Same thing happened to me then it finally stopped. I hope your internet is hardwired.

Yes it Always is.. The reason it is not showing as hard wired on the screenshot is that I was desperately trying everything. I wanted to see if i had the issue whether I was using wifi or hard wired.
Kinda of to eliminate Ethernet port issues, or actually anything that I could think of.
The issues were the same whether wired or wirelessly. crazy jumping bitrate and frame rate issues.
and when streaming the flickering of the stream. yet my rankings for tech all show excellent .... makes no sense. bitrate will immediately drop to 400 as soon as i start streaming. like the very second, and then just fluctuates greatly the entire time of stream. ? I dunno tho.... I just cant find a solution. lol

thanks for your input !!! Appreciate it !

sexy_lindz
10-16-2018, 06:20 PM
Dude I'm sorry but I hope nobody takes this conspiracy bullshit to heart. For every dollar you make Streamate makes money too, they have every incentive in the world to make it as easy as possible for as many girls as possible to make money. Why would they purposefully turn off your ability to make money? They still have to pay for your stream to be hosted on their servers and shit, if you're not earning money that's a net negative for them.

I know working on Streamate can suck ass sometimes and I'm not a top girl by any means but getting into this paranoid obsessive mindstate isn't going to help you guys at all.

Right? I have placed top 20 twice, and sometimes not even top 500. I think placement has a lot to do with your hours metrics. Once I hit about 70 hours, things really turn around in my room. Even more when I break 90 hours.

I was talking to one girl who said that streamate traffic is terrible, but when she told me she was at 29 hours for that metric, I knew why. She only cams an average of an hour a day... and you wont get any traffic that way. You simply aren't on enough for people to stumble on you.

The biggest thing is make sure you are doing everything possible off cam to make your on cam worth working, and STAY ON. Invest in your business. Get the Emart lights from Amazon for 50, get the Logitech c920, Hard wire your internet, have a decent computer that can handle the stress... and the most important thing...

..... CLEAN YOUR ROOM! So many girls that I have seen complaining don't bother to move that plastic bin, or dirty laundry.. no guy wants to pay for a slob, and if he does... make him pay to toss laundry.

anonamiss
10-16-2018, 06:44 PM
as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

this is such utterly baseless BS. there's nothing "interesting" about the same girls winning contests... They're often well established models who work an insane amount of hours, so it just makes sense that they'd successfully maintain high contest ranks. I am usually able to hit top 200 if I put in my usual 25 hours/week, but if I slack I always fall out of the ranks. But there was one holiday contest where I put in way more hours and was really motivated with my hustle, and I ended up in the top 20. If you're only working a few hours here and there (or split camming, therefore not giving your room full attention), there's no point in comparing yourself to top models that are working their ass off and putting in crazy amounts of time and effort during the contests. A lot of the high ranking models have super expensive rates and offer tons of extra incentives like video packages with gold shows, and many are online for over 12 hours each day. Plus, most are very conventionally attractive which is likely to draw in more people than if you are more of a niche model. That's just the way it is. There's nothing conspiratorial about why they're successful.

Its also worth noting that top models experience glitches too. I recently saw one of the top girls having serious lag issues and weird gold show timer glitches. They are not immune to the same problems we complain about here.

As far as "being watched at all times", well yeah. Of course you're being monitored so you don't break any rules. But suggesting that SM selectively disables certain functionality if you say something they dont like is absurd. I talk shit all the time in free chat (including with top spot producers in the room) and I've never experienced guys suddenly not being able to go private or tip.

anonamiss
10-16-2018, 06:53 PM
Right? I have placed top 20 twice, and sometimes not even top 500. I think placement has a lot to do with your hours metrics. Once I hit about 70 hours, things really turn around in my room. Even more when I break 90 hours.

I was talking to one girl who said that streamate traffic is terrible, but when she told me she was at 29 hours for that metric, I knew why. She only cams an average of an hour a day... and you wont get any traffic that way. You simply aren't on enough for people to stumble on you.

YES. I made my last post before I read this one, but I basically elaborated on this point.

I'd be curious to get some stats from the conspiracy theorists, like how many hours they've actually worked on SM in the last month. If its below average, well there ya go. Get up to the 90hours/"excellent" ranking and then come back and report about your traffic/glitches. My guess is your whole outlook on SM will change.

sexy_lindz
10-16-2018, 06:58 PM
YES. I made my last post before I read this one, but I basically elaborated on this point.

I'd be curious to get some stats from the conspiracy theorists, like how many hours they've actually worked on SM in the last month. If its below average, well there ya go. Get up to the 90hours/"excellent" ranking and then come back and report about your traffic/glitches. My guess is your whole outlook on SM will change.

That being said... Im eating shit this week in the contest... apparently going on a two week bender wasn't a great idea... lol

And camming 3 hours a day ISNT hard.. just takes consistency. Consider the money vs. time working.... I would rather do this for 5 hours from home vs. 8-10 hours at an office for less pay.

kamiliam
10-16-2018, 07:03 PM
I had a guy yesterday who couldn't tip. I told him to refresh, he did and tipped then took me to a show. These glitches are happening but like most things tech related a refresh will usually fix. I get that it is annoying, just like when I have to reset my modem for no reason on the internet I pay a lot for. These guys are often tech novices who are used to going to free porno sites and just having something load, all while filling their device with cookies and viruses that slow down sites like sm.

JoyKitten
10-16-2018, 07:48 PM
as i said before. very interesting how the same few win all the top prizes when there is contests. notice how a huge chunk of us all the sudden get no traffic and guys can't give gold or go private and exclusive? pretty sure it's by design. glad more and more are seeing it. they have the power to turn off features when they want. definitely not conspiracy. sure there is prob work being done on the site, but they have to keep their top/faves happy. the rest of us are seen as replaceable. same applies for porn companies, they have a select special few who they give the world to, pay the highest , treat the best and are honest to while the rest are just "fillers" and also deemed as "replaceable" . I notice when i get too preachy or say too many facts while streaming my feature to receive gold is turned off and guys complain about not being able to give gold or private etc. we are chess pieces and until we see that things will always be viewed as just another glitch, when in reality, it's by design. Ever notice when you say something slick on cam lots of functions stop working? guys not being able to give gold or get a show? yeah, me too. we are being watched at all times.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
– Albert Einstein

You're frustrated at the site issues, and I get that. I doubt you're going to appreciate my rationale on why your theory that the SM spies are downgrading your services because of negative things you've said during free chat.

#1 Reason is, SM doesn't even have a staff that monitors our rooms for contractual infractions on the site, like pussy in free chat, or models sharing personal information or doing meet-ups, etc. They're so cheap they ask models report one another for those infractions. And they're too cheap to hire 24/7 Support to help models with tech issues. Why would they pay anyone to monitor our rooms to see if we're talkin' smack about the company? To me it makes no sense. Even if other models are reporting you for that, it seems like a pretty low priority for SM's security/support to pursue. I suspect there is something else going on, with technical glitches that happen to be coincidental.

#2 Why would any company purposely make it so you are not making money for them? If you're having issues with guys taking you into shows, or giving gold, I hope you're taking a screen capture of your chat log (where the guys are saying they can't take a show or give gold) so the problem can be researched & corrected.

As for all the same models winning contests.... I think some of them work long, long, crazy ass hours, but also do social media blasts, or contact their whales (or friends/boyfriends/husband. or ?) asking them to dump a load of cash for them during the contests to help them win. For huge prizes some models/studios will go to great lengths to win. Again, it just doesn't make logical sense to me that SM has the time or interest to dink around with directing individual traffic to models during contests, or any other time for that matter.

Scorpio Girl
10-16-2018, 09:08 PM
I had a guy yesterday who couldn't tip. I told him to refresh, he did and tipped then took me to a show. These glitches are happening but like most things tech related a refresh will usually fix. I get that it is annoying, just like when I have to reset my modem for no reason on the internet I pay a lot for. These guys are often tech novices who are used to going to free porno sites and just having something load, all while filling their device with cookies and viruses that slow down sites like sm.

Yes! Even though our computers might be good, the guy's might not be. These guys are on a cam site. I'm sure they're also going to porn sites as well. A lot of the guys are even coming into SM from PornHub. Their computers/phones are going to get fucked up from going to those kind of sites. I'm not saying there aren't glitches on SM, but some of these issues could be on the guy's end which is why for some guys everything looks and is working fine and it's fucked up for other guys. I have issues sometimes with C2C not working, but most of the time it actually does work for me. If it was broken on SM, I would think it would never work. And no, I'm not a top model. I've placed in the top 200 in only two contests in the two years I've worked there and I busted my ass just to get in the top 200.

KatM
10-16-2018, 11:19 PM
Everything is OK on my side, see all parameters are Excellent, all to YES down there, yesterday my Worked Hours were 105 now it dropped to 99 as another day passed by; it's not like i dont put in the effort but as soon a contest is announced and then starts my traffic dies, it's always like this no matter how hard i try to hustle my room, in fact there is no 'room' cause it's dead, no people coming by anymore.

I say this for ages, i make money in between contests and these one week long ass contests are killing me.
There is something going on during these contests, i get no regulars, rarely people i know, it feels like traffic gates are shutting off completely.
This is not a conspiracy theory but i feel the traffic is redirected away my room, that's for sure, it's the same me when there is a contest and when not, right?!
Cant be i am doing a good job in between contests and get lazy and ugly during contests, of course i do my best all the time cause i need the money.
I do this for 18 years now, i know my job!!

50518

@ JoyKitten, thank you for taking the time to explain the traffic, i am aware of all the facts u mentioned in ur post, camming on SM only for many years now (8 years) i read and learn everything about this site, it's like u own a car u know very well and u know when something is off.
My post was related to the fact that i am thrown on page 5-6 all of a sudden and the parameters in my ranking page change (the Sound, Wide Screen and Audio turn off there, it shows as NO, all of them or some of them) even all is perfect here tech wise.

Checking my placement as an invisible guest shows me where i am placed on site for non logged in members, let's say page 2 and i am always there unless i go higher or lower depending on how many girls are online and how popular are they.
Then all of a sudden i have no more traffic in my room and i look up and find myself on page 5-6.
That shows me something is wrong and i need to reset my session to get back on my usual page/spot and sometimes its not happening right away but after a while.
That was the whole idea, i know it's a glitch most probably.
Again, ty for taking the time to explain :-*:-*

IvyRose
10-17-2018, 12:01 AM
You're frustrated at the site issues, and I get that. I doubt you're going to appreciate my rationale on why your theory that the SM spies are downgrading your services because of negative things you've said during free chat.

#1 Reason is, SM doesn't even have a staff that monitors our rooms for contractual infractions on the site, like pussy in free chat, or models sharing personal information or doing meet-ups, etc. They're so cheap they ask models report one another for those infractions. And they're too cheap to hire 24/7 Support to help models with tech issues. Why would they pay anyone to monitor our rooms to see if we're talkin' smack about the company? To me it makes no sense. Even if other models are reporting you for that, it seems like a pretty low priority for SM's security/support to pursue. I suspect there is something else going on, with technical glitches that happen to be coincidental.

#2 Why would any company purposely make it so you are not making money for them? If you're having issues with guys taking you into shows, or giving gold, I hope you're taking a screen capture of your chat log (where the guys are saying they can't take a show or give gold) so the problem can be researched & corrected.

As for all the same models winning contests.... I think some of them work long, long, crazy ass hours, but also do social media blasts, or contact their whales (or friends/boyfriends/husband. or ?) asking them to dump a load of cash for them during the contests to help them win. For huge prizes some models/studios will go to great lengths to win. Again, it just doesn't make logical sense to me that SM has the time or interest to dink around with directing individual traffic to models during contests, or any other time for that matter.

Yesyesyes!
Also about same models winning, i havent done contests the last couple of years but the years I did the topmodels where also the top placed, whic h isnt to surprising (followers, earning a hour and hustletechniques and long workhours busting balls).

About sm purposely turning of goldfunction, why the h3ck would sm shoot ots own foot? We all know sm is way to frigging selfish for that. Whenever they make money they are finnnneee
More probably a glitch everyone was experiening bec they work on the site when contests are held

seicento
10-17-2018, 02:25 AM
"If a guy is a lookie-Lou member who never actually takes a show (so the system can send him more of that), he will keep being sent a random selection of models.... with the hope that one of these new list of top row models will entice him to finally spend on the site. "

For some reason I can't quote just that part.

I want to say that I had a member account for about 3 months, never spent and didn't add any favorites and the placement I was seeing was the same every day, few spots different maybe depending on who was online at that time. As for my placement, I haven't moved from that spot unless the parameters in my ranking were going crazy and by that I mean the glitch that shows you are not streaming in HD or WIDE when you actually do and throws you nowhere on the site. So I have to disagree, the placement for non spending members doesn't change.

They closed my member account meantime so now I can only guess by the lack of guys in my room when I am thrown on like page 20 because of their glitch.

sovereignv
10-17-2018, 04:29 AM
As far as "being watched at all times", well yeah. Of course you're being monitored so you don't break any rules. But suggesting that SM selectively disables certain functionality if you say something they dont like is absurd. I talk shit all the time in free chat (including with top spot producers in the room) and I've never experienced guys suddenly not being able to go private or tip.

Right? There's like 1500+ models online at most times... do you really think SM has 1500 employees who just sit there in silence watching model rooms 24/7 to make sure nobody talks shit?

I flip my shit on cam sometimes (~ I'm moody ~) and besides scaring away potential customers I don't think I've ever been "disciplined" in any way, actively or passively.