View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
DeepThoughts
11-05-2018, 03:51 PM
^^
yes!! Me too
Genoveve
11-05-2018, 03:52 PM
^^Yup just started.
reverette
11-05-2018, 03:52 PM
Me as well! So fucking scary. Thought my account got hacked or something. Wonder WTF is going on !!!
DeepThoughts
11-05-2018, 03:53 PM
UGH! I was live but I couldnt check my earning so I thought I will just log out quickly and log back in and now I cannot. There are a bunch of guys waiting for me cause they wanted a GS!
Serena-Shields
11-05-2018, 03:55 PM
I pressed the StreamateModels logo at the top of the page and it led me to a blank dashboard with this instead:
Not Found
This resource has moved or does not exist: /smm/index.php
In ten seconds we will redirect you to the StreamateModels home page
I could see all of the options at the top of the page so it looks like I'm still logged in (I'm also streaming rn); maybe they're changing the SM Models website or something?
Edit: back to normal it looks like.
Genoveve
11-05-2018, 03:58 PM
It's back for me.
DeepThoughts
11-05-2018, 03:59 PM
^^ tried it and I got in when it redirected......
ETA: Im streaming!
SuperPookie
11-05-2018, 04:16 PM
1 show in 6 hours and it was for 2 1/2 minutes
There is no traffic and SW was not loading earlier on, just now reading ur comments, i was able o get on cam but was surprised to see just 1300 models online, i felt something is 'wrong' cause too little models on for a monday.
Well, not a good start for the week.
DahliaSimone
11-06-2018, 04:01 PM
Another week long goddamn contest next week, because SM knows their traffic sucks. Fuck. Guess I can count out earning and money next week then.
^^^ No wonder there is no traffic on this site, i did not expect another contest right after the last one, they just crazy with these non-stop contests, it's really excessive, i have no time to fucking breath aka 'make money' :( :(
euro_princess
11-06-2018, 05:37 PM
This is not the last contest this month. They are probably going to run the usual Thanksgiving one (I'm going to bet 21-23 November).
Today was slow because of Midterm Elections.
gorgeousbbw
11-07-2018, 02:14 AM
Is anyone else having issues with the SM broadcaster being on delay? even after recalibrating?
tropo
11-07-2018, 07:24 AM
This is not the last contest this month. They are probably going to run the usual Thanksgiving one (I'm going to bet 21-23 November).
Today was slow because of Midterm Elections.
It's not just SM. I work on 4 sites and all 4 have been dead. I've worked the same 4 sites for 5 years now and never has it been so slow for me. It started getting really slow in September, but now it is far worse. I don't work US hours (US people are usually at work when I'm on), so my decline has more to do with European business and the rest of the world. This is the first month I can't pay my bills from 13 years of camming. I knew this was going to happen one day, but I didn't expect the drop-off to be so rapid.
reverette
11-07-2018, 08:10 AM
Stupid newbie thought, but I'm wondering why. People definitely want to get their rocks off, so I'm wondering where they're going. Is everyone just too poor for camgirls and are going for the low-quality free stuff instead? Is there something else on the market that's taking them away? This is strange stuff indeed. :-\
tropo
11-07-2018, 10:37 AM
Stupid newbie thought, but I'm wondering why. People definitely want to get their rocks off, so I'm wondering where they're going. Is everyone just too poor for camgirls and are going for the low-quality free stuff instead? Is there something else on the market that's taking them away? This is strange stuff indeed. :-\
There's a lot of high quality free stuff available these days, and many girls doing everything for free on token sites, and in HD video too. The decline is quite understandable and I expected it, only not this quickly, within a few months. It's not the time of year as I always cam every month of the year. Of course there will always be porn superstars coming in here and denying what I'm saying and saying it's all me, but I've been reading many "I made $20 in 4 hours" posts on here for months before I decided to add my 2 cents worth.
euro_princess
11-07-2018, 11:24 AM
^ I think that's an ugly way of painting other models, specially models who do well. I feel some bitterness.
Every cam girl is in some way a pornstar, an amateur one. Some get more fame than others. But let's stop this whole masquerade with "pornstars" and hoe shaming, just because some girls are doing better than you! We all sell sex and fantasies, you, me and everybody who ever worked in this business.
tropo
11-07-2018, 12:37 PM
^ I think that's an ugly way of painting other models, specially models who do well. I feel some bitterness.
Every cam girl is in some way a pornstar, an amateur one. Some get more fame than others. But let's stop this whole masquerade with "pornstars" and hoe shaming, just because some girls are doing better than you! We all sell sex and fantasies, you, me and everybody who ever worked in this business.
I had no idea how well you are doing, but thanks for the heads up. I'm sorry I upset you as I don't consider it a derogatory description. How about I use "Cam Star" next time. Would that help at all?
euro_princess
11-07-2018, 01:01 PM
I didn't mention how well I was doing or how much, but thx for worrying about my earnings.
TheBrownFox
11-07-2018, 05:40 PM
Some dude was in my SM room the other day telling me how OTHER models show the goods in free chat in order to get more tips. Okay, motherfucker...AND? Lmao. I don't give a fuck. I am well aware that some ladies choose to deepthroat dildos and dirty talk in free chat. That's their business. Sure as hell don't mean I gotta do what they do, and I'm not about to let some MAN (who ain't tipping, or hasn't spent a dime on me) tell me what I should be doing in fucking FREE CHAT. Lol. So instead of trying to oh-so-subtly tell me that I should give you free flashes, etc., stfu and tip $5 Gold for a flash. *eye roll*
gorgeousbbw
11-07-2018, 06:39 PM
Some dude was in my SM room the other day telling me how OTHER models show the goods in free chat in order to get more tips. Okay, motherfucker...AND? Lmao. I don't give a fuck. I am well aware that some ladies choose to deepthroat dildos and dirty talk in free chat. That's their business. Sure as hell don't mean I gotta do what they do, and I'm not about to let some MAN (who ain't tipping, or hasn't spent a dime on me) tell me what I should be doing in fucking FREE CHAT. Lol. So instead of trying to oh-so-subtly tell me that I should give you free flashes, etc., stfu and tip $5 Gold for a flash. *eye roll*
Lol true! Yesterday I had one guy tip me just being nice nothing expected...and then another fool said "Aren't you gonna show sum tits" I said sure tip me baby, he said oh this other guy tipped you...WHAT!!! He was seriously waiting for me to show tits off of someone else's tip. The lowest type of freeloader I have ever seen.
patternrecognition
11-07-2018, 08:26 PM
Lol true! Yesterday I had one guy tip me just being nice nothing expected...and then another fool said "Aren't you gonna show sum tits" I said sure tip me baby, he said oh this other guy tipped you...WHAT!!! He was seriously waiting for me to show tits off of someone else's tip. The lowest type of freeloader I have ever seen.
what he just said it outright? they think that's a secret tactic, i wonder if the others would gang up on him for a scab
BadBitch
11-07-2018, 09:47 PM
It's not just SM. I work on 4 sites and all 4 have been dead. I've worked the same 4 sites for 5 years now and never has it been so slow for me. It started getting really slow in September, but now it is far worse. I don't work US hours (US people are usually at work when I'm on), so my decline has more to do with European business and the rest of the world. This is the first month I can't pay my bills from 13 years of camming. I knew this was going to happen one day, but I didn't expect the drop-off to be so rapid.
My thoughts exactly.
DeepThoughts
11-07-2018, 11:27 PM
Lol true! Yesterday I had one guy tip me just being nice nothing expected...and then another fool said "Aren't you gonna show sum tits" I said sure tip me baby, he said oh this other guy tipped you...WHAT!!! He was seriously waiting for me to show tits off of someone else's tip. The lowest type of freeloader I have ever seen.
I love these guys! love breaking their little freeloading hearts. I also get guys that will tip me MORE and ask for nothing just to make sure their hearts have been thoroughly crushed!
reverette
11-08-2018, 06:25 AM
I love these guys! love breaking their little freeloading hearts. I also get guys that will tip me MORE and ask for nothing just to make sure their hearts have been thoroughly crushed!
SAME. It used to irk me but now I almost feed off of it. Like those sirens that feed off men's tears.
Those sad, broke incels keep me young.
LittleSexBunny
11-09-2018, 12:35 AM
wheres the traffic lol... I don't wanna do pvts ugh
AcidYellow
11-09-2018, 11:45 AM
wheres the traffic lol... I don't wanna do pvts ugh
hello, im barely getting traffic in my room, dont know whats wrong.. Im very frustrated... Maybe there are more performers online and not to much traffic for everybody. I remember the times when i was getting a lot of guys in my room and making 100us really easy in two hours, Now? Pffff is a challenge. All websites look over saturated, wanted to try chaturbate but damm, i just have not options for now...
reverette
11-09-2018, 02:08 PM
Yeah I'm gonna keep giving SM a go since I am new and with few regs, but it seems like overnight there was zero traffic. 4 hours online so far and not even a 30-sec peeper for private, no matter how lively, talkative, and smiley I've been.
Really like what SM can be but for right now for me personally I'm pivoting a little bit.
*CL/LetGo arbitrage
*Trying to learn to sell panties
*Maybe C4S
*May freelance again, even if I did hate it
I'm really thankful for everything I have earned through SM so far, but I am truly mystified as to what happened. Even one of my bread-and-butter regs asked for freebies today. Because he is going to see a prostitute tomorrow, and he needs to save up. Yowza. ::)
Don't meant to demotivate anyone, just had to get that off my chest before I break down :crackup:
On a different note though, if anyone else is trying out any of the above side-eggs, feel free to message me and we can be accountable/figure it out together. I know this rough patch is hitting a fair few of us.
TheBrownFox
11-09-2018, 06:35 PM
Even one of my bread-and-butter regs asked for freebies today. Because he is going to see a prostitute tomorrow, and he needs to save up. Yowza. ::)
His name isn't Tattoo, is it (though I have a feeling that guy doesn't spend on anyone on SM)? Because that motherfucker came in my room once telling me about seeing a "hooker" (I told him that I don't think they like being called "hookers"), but has never tipped me a dime EVER. I banned him once, but decided to let him back in because, unlike some of these other assholes, he actually chats.
reverette
11-09-2018, 07:09 PM
His name isn't Tattoo, is it (though I have a feeling that guy doesn't spend on anyone on SM)?
No, thankfully he's a rather sweet English boy who seems to fall into that typical "basement kids" stereotype. Nice, but can only afford maybe 5 minutes every week and a half. I guess it's been over six months of a dry spell for him, and he has to get the real thing. That Tattoo guy sounds like a hoot though, my gosh.
I "lost" a non-paying reg today after he found out that I had an IRL live-in boyfriend. Like ... this isn't a dating site. Never spent a dime and yet claims to make just over $400k a year, living in the heart of NYC, a real dimepiece with properties all over the world, and somehow still finds himself parked in my room for 2+ hours/day trying to win me over.
I'm not buying a diet plan from a fat trainer, I'm not buying beauty advice from a butterface, and I'm not buying that someone with all those qualifications finds time to beg an online rando for love. Do these kids really think we were born yesterday? ::)
^^^ Dont let these guys suck on ur energy for free, if he is a freeloader he should not be in ur room, a reg is a 'paying guy' not a cheap ass or broke guy who wastes ur time for nothing.
I never let them park in my room and 'vampirise' me, they steal my energy, i ask them to pay or leave if they insist talking for free.
reverette
11-09-2018, 07:58 PM
^^^ Dont let these guys suck on ur energy for free, if he is a freeloader he should not be in ur room, a reg is a 'paying guy' not a cheap ass or broke guy who wastes ur time for nothing.
I never let them park in my room and 'vampirise' me, they steal my energy, i ask them to pay or leave if they insist talking for free.
The free guy was fine, as he was usually funny and put me into a good mood. And because that led to privates most of the time, he was kind of useful. But I more or less had to give him the boot because he did indeed make that switch and become more of a "vampire" as you say. Less people in the room, so less privates to keep him useful, lol. It can be kind of a balance, since one of my long-time talkers became a decently-sized spender after we hit it off talking about politics. But yes, lots of vampires.
I do admittedly need to learn to keep my spirit high during these odd slumps. I think it's time to reread some of those awesome LOA threads we got here and keep working on my other eggs until this has ironed out. :)
PennyJ
11-10-2018, 07:00 AM
Paxum when I tried to withdraw to my Visa this morning -
'Errors :
We regret to inform you that Withdrawal to External VISA credit/debit cards is temporarily unavailable. We anticipate return of this option within 4 weeks. In the meantime Withdrawal to External MASTERCARD credit card is still operational and available for use. We apologize for the inconvenience.'
LadyLuv
11-10-2018, 08:32 AM
Hi Serena, Yes I thought I was seeing thing. For the last 3 months I have to type it in real slow. Plus its case sensitive.
If I contact support I would get an email saying clear cookies etc.
Glamourmilf
11-10-2018, 09:13 AM
hello, im barely getting traffic in my room, dont know whats wrong.. Im very frustrated... Maybe there are more performers online and not to much traffic for everybody. I remember the times when i was getting a lot of guys in my room and making 100us really easy in two hours, Now? Pffff is a challenge. All websites look over saturated, wanted to try chaturbate but damm, i just have not options for now...
Ikr? I can 'sell ice to Eskimos'. But first I need the Eskimos to show up!
Ugh!
SuperPookie
11-10-2018, 02:35 PM
Ikr? I can 'sell ice to Eskimos'. But first I need the Eskimos to show up!
Ugh!
Yep that is it. Made 3.70 in 3 hours on SM lol. I would certainly have been better off spending that time doing housework or working out
strawberrybb
11-11-2018, 04:26 AM
Anyone else fucking sick of SM contests?
I hate that they mask it like it's a favor to models and a chance to earn more money, when really it's just them manipulating models to be online more to try to appeal to their quickly fading customer base. UGH
pussyhoe
11-11-2018, 05:17 AM
Anyone else fucking sick of SM contests?
I hate that they mask it like it's a favor to models and a chance to earn more money, when really it's just them manipulating models to be online more to try to appeal to their quickly fading customer base. UGH
According to the same 10 who always win top prizes, the rest of us are all crazy and making things up when we talk about what a digital sweatshop SM has become. I mean, what are the odds we go from garbage traffic to garbage traffic 3.0 during contest time cause mysteriously guys can only connect to certain rooms? I mean, reallllllllly..... ok. Sure. Idk I smell another ifriends situation coming. Id be shocked if sm made it another 3 to 5 years honestly. It's best we have backup income or plans. Sm been dying for years and only getting worse. And before anyone says how they work hard to place in the contest, so do I and others. But there's clearly something not right with the same exact few out of thousands always placing in the top 10. What, the same 10 always outwork the other 1 to 2k models? Pretty fishy if you ask me. Same with their new changes they claimed to make with placement. I found it quite interesting how page 3 and 4 foreign models are now on page 1 with their vaginas out, interesting the TOS doesn't apply to them ever. Makes me think a foreign slum lord bought out SM. Why else are page 1 U.S models being thrusted to page 2 and 3 now and expected to follow the TOS? Hmmmm
kamiliam
11-11-2018, 05:56 AM
According to the same 10 who always win top prizes, the rest of us are all crazy and making things up when we talk about what a digital sweatshop SM has become. I mean, what are the odds we go from garbage traffic to garbage traffic 3.0 during contest time cause mysteriously guys can only connect to certain rooms? I mean, reallllllllly..... ok. Sure. Idk I smell another ifriends situation coming. Id be shocked if sm made it another 3 to 5 years honestly. It's best we have backup income or plans. Sm been dying for years and only getting worse. And before anyone says how they work hard to place in the contest, so do I and others. But there's clearly something not right with the same exact few out of thousands always placing in the top 10. What, the same 10 always outwork the other 1 to 2k models? Pretty fishy if you ask me. Same with their new changes they claimed to make with placement. I found it quite interesting how page 3 and 4 foreign models are now on page 1 with their vaginas out, interesting the TOS doesn't apply to them ever. Makes me think a foreign slum lord bought out SM. Why else are page 1 U.S models being thrusted to page 2 and 3 now and expected to follow the TOS? Hmmmm
Because guys like women that other guys want. Guys may not scroll through all the rankings, but some do see the blinking light and check out the top girls. Whales certainly do. Then you combine that with the constant gold shows that those whales get going (that does help with the ranking because of paid chat time) and the long hours that they are pulling in, and bravo you have the top girls. Is it really that odd that top models are consistently top? They have large fan bases, many have been on the site for years, and some only work during a contest.
I am not saying contests are great, I think they suck for most models, esp if you don't get a lucky break and gain momentum. I usually make about the same in the end. I logged off at like 30 or something but made about $100 less then I normally do. The truth is you make more money the higher you are ranked. As my ranking went up last night I was making more per hour.
DeepThoughts
11-11-2018, 06:26 AM
According to the same 10 who always win top prizes, the rest of us are all crazy and making things up when we talk about what a digital sweatshop SM has become. I mean, what are the odds we go from garbage traffic to garbage traffic 3.0 during contest time cause mysteriously guys can only connect to certain rooms? I mean, reallllllllly..... ok. Sure. Idk I smell another ifriends situation coming. Id be shocked if sm made it another 3 to 5 years honestly. It's best we have backup income or plans. Sm been dying for years and only getting worse. And before anyone says how they work hard to place in the contest, so do I and others. But there's clearly something not right with the same exact few out of thousands always placing in the top 10. What, the same 10 always outwork the other 1 to 2k models? Pretty fishy if you ask me. Same with their new changes they claimed to make with placement. I found it quite interesting how page 3 and 4 foreign models are now on page 1 with their vaginas out, interesting the TOS doesn't apply to them ever. Makes me think a foreign slum lord bought out SM. Why else are page 1 U.S models being thrusted to page 2 and 3 now and expected to follow the TOS? Hmmmm
I have said this before and Im going to say it again. Im tired of people playing cam girl police here! You know what I think when I see someone typing about what another model is doing in her room? I think 'The reason you're not making it on SM is because you're too busy watching other girls!!!!' It is not your job to point out every model that is breaking the TOS!!! Why are you hating on another girls hustle? Could it be that you feel so threatened at the site of another girls pussy because you think that its stealing money from you? Do you really think that the reason you make little to nothing on SM is because some other model has her pussy out in free chat?? Have you ever seen the internet? ITS FULL OF FREE PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if all this magic theft pussy is diverting your funds why isnt it true for me too??? I make great Money on SM regardless of all the free pussy available to men on the internet. Ever sit down and think about why that doesnt add up???
Also all these "foreign" girls (BTW fuck you for that because this is the internet so what do you mean by foreign?? You mean foreign to you, but where is it written that America holds the cam model monopoly?) are showing up on your first page because the new algorithm on SM is designed to show you similar models to those you have searched in the past! So here you are trolling these "foreigners" because you need to justify your own short comings by reassuring yourself that its not you its their pussies and the SM algorithm thinks "Okay, You like seeing models that meet this criteria so we will show you more of the same on the first page whenever you visit!" So its your own fault you are seeing a certain kind of model on page 1. It is NOT proof of some conspiracy of the up coming STREAMAGEDDON!!!
If you have any real proof that SM is diverting traffic to some Models rooms during the contest and blocking others I would love to see that!
Marina Starr
11-11-2018, 07:34 AM
What's fishy to me is the same girls creating different accounts just to complain... Complain about Streamate.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2im6m2x.jpg
This won't be the first nor the last contest. Expect a few contests monthly. You have to evolve and adapt.
IvyRose
11-11-2018, 08:19 AM
According to the same 10 who always win top prizes, the rest of us are all crazy and making things up when we talk about what a digital sweatshop SM has become. I mean, what are the odds we go from garbage traffic to garbage traffic 3.0 during contest time cause mysteriously guys can only connect to certain rooms? I mean, reallllllllly..... ok. Sure. Idk I smell another ifriends situation coming. Id be shocked if sm made it another 3 to 5 years honestly. It's best we have backup income or plans. Sm been dying for years and only getting worse. And before anyone says how they work hard to place in the contest, so do I and others. But there's clearly something not right with the same exact few out of thousands always placing in the top 10. What, the same 10 always outwork the other 1 to 2k models? Pretty fishy if you ask me. Same with their new changes they claimed to make with placement. I found it quite interesting how page 3 and 4 foreign models are now on page 1 with their vaginas out, interesting the TOS doesn't apply to them ever. Makes me think a foreign slum lord bought out SM. Why else are page 1 U.S models being thrusted to page 2 and 3 now and expected to follow the TOS? Hmmmm
I guess sm dying is why i make more a hour every year than the year before
I guess its all sm fault and they block and handpick custies to send to other rooms without any reason and bec they have the money time and interest to make models their life sour and wish them to make less money for their own site
Yes! That would be it!
Seriously sm doesnt make you do anything we are not under a c ontract you are free to work or search for another site. Attacking fellow camgirls for placing high is such a low way and not a very succesfull way to deal with owns setback
DeepThoughts
11-11-2018, 09:37 AM
What's fishy to me is the same girls creating different accounts just to complain... Complain about Streamate.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2im6m2x.jpg
This won't be the first nor the last contest. Expect a few contests monthly. You have to evolve and adapt.
OHHH GIRL!!! Saying what we are all thinking :D :D :D
SuperPookie
11-11-2018, 09:58 AM
Every contest guys get rerouted from my room to a top girls room. This HAS to be done by SM as there are lots of girls further back as well as male models. None have ever landed in one of their rooms instead. And before anyone says that guy was full of crap...well maybe he was but guy B, Guy C, Guy D...etc over a period of months I don't think so.
Traffic has dropped dramatically and yes oodles of free vag is an issue as site culture is a thing. Now that's not saying that someone who runs against the grain can't do well but it's certainly more difficult.
Referring to foreign models most likely means Eastern European studios which do as a general rule have lower rates. Should they? No, I most definitely don't think so. That doesn't mean they don't though.
No matter how many hours I put in beyond a sporadic regular traffic is squat, glitches are bad, and the guys are much more rude and demanding than they were even a year ago.
Also none of this means the top ladies aren't busting their ass but it also doesn't help to bury our heads in the sand about the issues SM is facing either. They are why sadly what was once my favorite free chat site is now simply a placeholder.
Glamourmilf
11-11-2018, 10:04 AM
Yep that is it. Made 3.70 in 3 hours on SM lol. I would certainly have been better off spending that time doing housework or working out
Jesus! You definitely have more patience than I do.
God bless ya for staying on 3 hours.
When I noticed that there was very little traffic, I lowered my rate and did a 'happy hour.'
Interesting how guys get ' disconnected' after 2 minutes at my normal rate. But stay connected for long shows during my lowered rate. Hmmm.
I got to log off after just 1 hour, and DID do housework.
Then, I went to my favorite designer consignment boutique. Brought over some knock off Prada purses I'm done with, and made money that way.
On my way home, I bought a Starbucks, and relaxed watching a movie.
I don't think I'm going to bring back 2011, 2012. So I might as well adapt.
Lolaki
11-11-2018, 10:25 AM
I want to share this with you ladies
Really need somebody to tell me its gonna get better, cause I ve lost my faith :(
euro_princess
11-11-2018, 10:39 AM
Currently in top 10 and I can tell you I had a rough day and I made under my usual billing per hour (20% less). But I didn't give up.
And I can also tell you those chicks been online for 12-14h and they are still hustling. I advise you to copy that work ethic. And why I make more than you? Cause I got better stats, more favs, higher prices, different attitude and I don't check other girls. I mind my own fucking business and don't get frustrated when others have a better day.
anon_camgirl
11-11-2018, 03:28 PM
IF. YOU. WORK. ON. SM. take this seriously...
it's contest week :)
do have the BEST virus protector on ur pc ever. Don't open any attachments from people you don't know!!! I had guys send me the nastiest virus's that weren't detected through my security. Make SURE you have protection for your IP address!!!!!!!!!!
I've been a victim of Ddos for the longest here and made this account just to help out others.
I don't open any attachments from any customers, just went out and bought an entire new computer because my last one was compromised. People act weird over money, and if you have any chance of winning that contest, you should have the utmost security.
Stay safe all!
BadBitch
11-11-2018, 06:50 PM
According to the same 10 who always win top prizes, the rest of us are all crazy and making things up when we talk about what a digital sweatshop SM has become. I mean, what are the odds we go from garbage traffic to garbage traffic 3.0 during contest time cause mysteriously guys can only connect to certain rooms? I mean, reallllllllly..... ok. Sure. Idk I smell another ifriends situation coming. Id be shocked if sm made it another 3 to 5 years honestly. It's best we have backup income or plans. Sm been dying for years and only getting worse. And before anyone says how they work hard to place in the contest, so do I and others. But there's clearly something not right with the same exact few out of thousands always placing in the top 10. What, the same 10 always outwork the other 1 to 2k models? Pretty fishy if you ask me. Same with their new changes they claimed to make with placement. I found it quite interesting how page 3 and 4 foreign models are now on page 1 with their vaginas out, interesting the TOS doesn't apply to them ever. Makes me think a foreign slum lord bought out SM. Why else are page 1 U.S models being thrusted to page 2 and 3 now and expected to follow the TOS? Hmmmm
"Digital sweatshop"! Yes!
strawberrybb
11-12-2018, 05:00 AM
lol wait what? the same girls make accounts on here to complain about SM? I only made this account so I could try to see if others were experiencing the same things I've seen the past few weeks, I've never been on here before. I guess a touchy subject, which is understandable considering the state of things.