Log in

View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 [26] 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297

christylive
01-27-2016, 03:54 AM
The phone option has been incredibly garbage lately... guys have to call at least twice before it deigns to connect, and when it does connect the sound is so bad it's like dirty talking my deaf granny. Anyone else having this issue or is it just my cheapass phone plan?

Only issue I've had lately is it takes 5+ minutes to connect me to the customer. It's like we're both on hold with a bill collector or something.

BambiCutie
01-27-2016, 06:54 AM
Does anyone know when the last SM payout will be through Payoneer or if its before the end of this month? I worked the beginning of last week and I know that anything I've make this week I won't receive for a while, this still confuses the shit out of me. Messaging support is useless unless contacting Venessa or Liz..nearly every email has came from them and SM copy/paste responses that show they don't read emails.

caramelcraze
01-27-2016, 08:09 AM
WTF?! Why don't they have a "Mixed" category?! Even MGF has a damn mixed category! I'm not Caucasian, I'm not Black, I'm mixed. I'm not passably either so it's really frustrating for me.

Melyssax
01-27-2016, 08:33 AM
I haven't been approved by them yet to start streaming but omggg... takes them FOREVER to approve you or respond to you contacting them. Ive emailed the Vanessa girl....never heard a word from her... they seem to lack in quality service. MFC is pretty quick with their responses & help

caramelcraze
01-27-2016, 09:05 AM
I haven't been approved by them yet to start streaming but omggg... takes them FOREVER to approve you or respond to you contacting them. Ive emailed the Vanessa girl....never heard a word from her... they seem to lack in quality service. MFC is pretty quick with their responses & help

The first time I signed up the declined my app and then, when I resubmitted it, didn't email me for over 2 months. I had to email them in order for them to approve me finally. Basically got a "oops, our bad. welcome to SM" email. That was years ago though.

Hxchayley
01-27-2016, 09:32 AM
I e mail liz and she's normally always back to me within the hour. I was approved after 3 days, if it's been longer then the 5 business days it says it can take, I'd e mail liz.



And there's a SM payments thread. Not at all trying to be rude, it's just a lot of the questone I've seen the past few days have been answered, as well as current discussion on late checks I believe
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?206043-Streamate-Payments&highlight=streamate+payments

Tatti_D
01-27-2016, 09:32 AM
Does anyone know when the last SM payout will be through Payoneer or if its before the end of this month? I worked the beginning of last week and I know that anything I've make this week I won't receive for a while, this still confuses the shit out of me. Messaging support is useless unless contacting Venessa or Liz..nearly every email has came from them and SM copy/paste responses that show they don't read emails.

They pay every week. You work during one week and make over 100, you get it three weeks later. I get it on Fridays usually at 11am (Panama time). So if you worked for the week from the 16th to the 23rd of this month, you should get paid on February the 12th. I guess that's what you're asking...

Hxchayley
01-27-2016, 09:33 AM
WTF?! Why don't they have a "Mixed" category?! Even MGF has a damn mixed category! I'm not Caucasian, I'm not Black, I'm mixed. I'm not passably either so it's really frustrating for me.

Sorry, completely non related, but I LOVE your siggy.

MistressX
01-27-2016, 11:00 AM
I'm starting to believe they've given up. I hope I'm wrong, I don't get it, that shit is a fucking goldmine. I mean how many of us are struggling and complaining? We all know they read this, yet nothing is being done about it, or not that we know of and we deserve some answers.

I wonder this too. If they were on top of these issues they would make so much more money. I guess they just dont care. It really makes me wonder what their thought process is. And again, we know that Liz jumped in during Streamgate and so we know they read this forum. That they are choosing not to speak on all the issues we are having says a LOT about them.

SM_CamGirl
01-27-2016, 11:04 AM
since yesterday i cant get a pvt or exclusive for more than 4 minutes... all end in almost 4 mins customers say the page disconnected them and said system error...

MistressX
01-27-2016, 11:44 AM
I was talking with a customer this morning about the issues the site has all the time. This is what he said

44118

He said he always gets disconnected and then the models lag, all kinds of issues and it isnt him

webcamcutie
01-27-2016, 12:21 PM
since yesterday i cant get a pvt or exclusive for more than 4 minutes... all end in almost 4 mins customers say the page disconnected them and said system error...

Yep, that's what happened to me last night. 5-7mins into the pvt they would just stop responding and they'd get kicked, then you'd see the bitrate on the broadcaster tanking. Every single one. So irritating, didn't matter how many times I rebooted crap or relogged my feed, didn't help. Works fine in freechat for the arrogant entitled freeloaders though! Go figure!

xoprincessremy
01-27-2016, 12:34 PM
I was disconnected from a long pvt session today. thankfully the custie came back.

Femmestudent
01-27-2016, 12:54 PM
my paycheque from Jan.13 is still not fucking here, did anyone with cheques get paid from that week? I am so pissed about this, like how am I supposed to put on a happy fucking smile and work when bitches havn't fucking paid me the money owed to me?

SM_CamGirl
01-27-2016, 01:02 PM
Yep, that's what happened to me last night. 5-7mins into the pvt they would just stop responding and they'd get kicked, then you'd see the bitrate on the broadcaster tanking. Every single one. So irritating, didn't matter how many times I rebooted crap or relogged my feed, didn't help. Works fine in freechat for the arrogant entitled freeloaders though! Go figure!

yes i had to came back to use the FMLE encoder because since some weeks ago the SMbroadcaster has the same issues u saying, i tried yesterday again the SM broadcaster and the problem continues, in free chat its ok, in pvt the bitrate start to low but in my case it low my resolution too from 1280 to 1024, so its impossible keep a private and nightmare do gold shows or tv shows.

but im using the encoder, was good for me last days but since yesterday i really dont know what to do, no ppl in my room, and the few that enter and take the pvt cant stay on... =(

Hxchayley
01-27-2016, 01:30 PM
Make sure you guys are reaching out to liz about these problems, i brought up how there's quite a few of us experiencing the very same exact issues since the same exact day and she said you guys know how to reach out to her, so I'm assuming maybe not enough of us have actually reached out to her about it.

as far as my complaint of no traffic, dead period and disconnection she brought up
my geo block and opt out adds option effects traffic tremendously, but i have had these settings since
the very beginning (except the opting out of adds, i did that sometime last month and even then there was no noticeable change in my traffic
until recently when everyone elses is out of the normal dead.)
she suggested that i connect my computer directly to the modem....but no mention
of there being SM issues on their end.....:-\

KatyBoleyn
01-27-2016, 01:38 PM
She also does somewhat keep up with the forums here :) *waves hello*

Issabelle
01-27-2016, 02:24 PM
*snort* Oh, Liz doesn't know my ass. The sheer volume of models tweeting their complaints to Streamate's Twitter publicly tells me people are well aware.

The first (and only) time Liz has actually come over here to talk to us was during 'StreamGate' in August of last year and even then it was basically a long line of 'oh, we're working on it; oh, now it's fixed; oh, here's a bonus to make up for the problems' all the while the issues were not fixed in any way and, hilariously, still occasionally happen (shows not connecting after you accept an exclusive request and hitting the break button doesn't fix it? Yup, still). The best part is that when we all directed the 'hard questions' at Liz like, you know, why were ALL our reports ignored for so long (screenshots for proof)? Why has general support just said 'oh, are you connected to the internet?' after we sent the detailed reports you personally asked for instead of passing them along (more screenshots for proof)? And so on and so forth without Liz or Vanessa ever answering 95% of them.

We may know how to contact her, but she and support in general rarely respond. I've had two emails to her go without replies in the last two months and before that I notified her of a glitch only to get the 'we're aware; it's been fixed now' response, told her 'uh, no, because it's literally happening right now,' and get back 'no, it's been dealt with; what are the names of the customers reporting problems?' Like, fucking seriously? Are you fucking serious right now?

Liz has been great to me when I've needed assistance on more than one occasion, but I will never give her technical support team a single accolade. It's utter garbage and frankly insulting how much they dismiss the only people who regularly work with their platform long enough to notice issues in the first place because, god help us, the whores must be too stupid to realize they need to plug in their own router or too lazy to not just cry to us at the first sign of an issue. God forbid there be an actual problem!

Real talk--two years as a model with SM and I've gone through these glitch-crash fests, what, five or six times now? It's always the same situation--a select few models start reporting problems and are ignored/told it's their fault, more models begin seeing the problems as well and are ignored/told it's their fault, and finally a majority of models are seeing a significant decline in earnings and SM tells us 'oh, why didn't you tell us SOONER! No one reports anything! We're working on it! But also--are you sure it isn't on your end?' then just proceeds to say 'it's been fixed' for the next 1-3 weeks whenever a model emails them to say it clearly hasn't and eventually the bugs slowly get worked out.

Expect this entire shit storm to even out in the next 2ish weeks, based on the concerns finally hitting a majority of top models from frequent GS disconnects to privates going silent/customers being booted. SM can blame the time of year for lack of spending if they want, but technical issues are technical issues.

gingerstcyr
01-27-2016, 02:42 PM
Wow! If we had a union I know who I would vote for. :)

MistressX
01-27-2016, 02:55 PM
We should have a union lol... cam girls union!

Issabelle
01-27-2016, 04:17 PM
No Cam Girl Unions pretty please. We'd have to start paying union rep fees and negotiate benefits, which means we'd probably get put on a super shitty hourly wage salary that required set hours and all the things that independent contractors don't tend to care for.

webcamcutie
01-27-2016, 04:59 PM
Thanks Issa, spoken like a true champ. I patiently waited for my response all day to get an email back from Liz asking me if I was using wifi.....and then resent her in all the information and print screens and blood sample I sent to support almost 2 weeks ago. Perhaps, she can provide me with some insight........ But yeah, it's been rough. I'm not accepting the it's your ISP crap this time. I've had my lines outside my house replaced, my lines inside my house completely redone, new equipment, nodes worked on and fixed in my area, my internet is solid. It's definitely something else, that's why I reached out in the Streamate forum to see if anyone else notices it, or if I'm just crazy. Sure, I tried FMLE instead of the broadcaster, but now it's back to the, my cam loading like I'm in exclusive when I'm not for mobile customers, black screens, freezing while in pvt/exclusive, disconnects and pixelation issues while even using FMLE. So which is the better devil to stream with right now? Neither, because neither are working properly for me. I used FMLE from Thursday 2 weeks ago when I noticed the broadcaster start to tank on the bitrate, and wrote to support then, and just 2 days ago FMLE started to fuck up again, so I did the broadcaster again last night and I would have been better off getting up and moving around and working at McDonald's for the shit piss poor amount of money I managed to make in my 5-7min pvts that kept getting booted I did manage to get in the amount of hours I put in. Just ridiculous.

Bootsie
01-27-2016, 05:31 PM
I gotta say, the SM broadcaster is a waste of fucking time. It crashes every fucking time. I hate FMLE but at least it fucking works.

christylive
01-27-2016, 05:58 PM
Thanks Issa, spoken like a true champ. I patiently waited for my response all day to get an email back from Liz asking me if I was using wifi.....and then resent her in all the information and print screens and blood sample I sent to support almost 2 weeks ago. Perhaps, she can provide me with some insight........ But yeah, it's been rough. I'm not accepting the it's your ISP crap this time. I've had my lines outside my house replaced, my lines inside my house completely redone, new equipment, nodes worked on and fixed in my area, my internet is solid. It's definitely something else, that's why I reached out in the Streamate forum to see if anyone else notices it, or if I'm just crazy. Sure, I tried FMLE instead of the broadcaster, but now it's back to the, my cam loading like I'm in exclusive when I'm not for mobile customers, black screens, freezing while in pvt/exclusive, disconnects and pixelation issues while even using FMLE. So which is the better devil to stream with right now? Neither, because neither are working properly for me. I used FMLE from Thursday 2 weeks ago when I noticed the broadcaster start to tank on the bitrate, and wrote to support then, and just 2 days ago FMLE started to fuck up again, so I did the broadcaster again last night and I would have been better off getting up and moving around and working at McDonald's for the shit piss poor amount of money I managed to make in my 5-7min pvts that kept getting booted I did manage to get in the amount of hours I put in. Just ridiculous.

Everything you mentioned is exactly the same thing I went through for 9 months straight. I too had everything replaced multiple times. I really do believe there's something really wrong on SM end that needs to get fixed. After 20+ internet tech visits , rewiring twice and 7 modem replacements , 2 laptop purchases and about 5 different factory resets across all my equipment on top of 100+ hours of research I've come to the conclusion there's no way were all having the same issues all this time across different parts of the country and it's all our fault. But I'm just a cam girl so what do I know!? :/

Glamourmilf
01-27-2016, 07:23 PM
my paycheque from Jan.13 is still not fucking here, did anyone with cheques get paid from that week? I am so pissed about this, like how am I supposed to put on a happy fucking smile and work when bitches havn't fucking paid me the money owed to me?
I didn't get mine either, as I had mentioned in a prior thread. Had to do the reissue, but if my 2 checks don't arrive on the 1st, guess who's gonna be late on her rent?
Yeah, I know how You feel...kinda takes the wind out of my sails, when I know that I'm giving SM their $25 xmas bonus right back to them.:'(
I would have NEVER worked on SM that week the contest was going on, because it was really pointless, with glitches and lack of traffic.
*Suspicious that there are too many girls on here that didn't get their checks either.

heyho
01-27-2016, 08:14 PM
After hovering at 20-25% in paid chat this last week, I bit the bullet and lowered my rates.

It did nothing. Closing my day at 21% paid. Ballin' ova here!

Also did I mention I kept getting disconnected? And being unable to log back in for like 20mins after?? And then when I finally get to log back in I spend the next half an hour seeing "Disconnected--reconnecting--reconnected" on my encoder every few seconds???

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Dwight-Schrute-Goes-Into-An-Angry-Rage-On-The-Office.gif

STREAMATE WAI

christylive
01-27-2016, 08:17 PM
WTF?! Why don't they have a "Mixed" category?! Even MGF has a damn mixed category! I'm not Caucasian, I'm not Black, I'm mixed. I'm not passably either so it's really frustrating for me.

I've been saying this forever! I get crap all the time for being in the ebony section. My dad is black/white, mom is Italian/black/Indian . I'm told I look Hispanic on some days and pacific islander the next. I also get guys who refer to me as a 'thick white woman'. Shit. I'm human. LOL. Usually when asked if I'm really black, I tell them I'm whatever they want me to be long as their paying me. Haha

witchbaby
01-27-2016, 08:51 PM
I've been dreading going on cam all week. I'm getting zero traffic, my stream lags, and I'm continuously getting disconnected. I'm making so little money it's starting to affect my self-esteem. I can't help but think "wtf is wrong with me?"

This is getting ridiculous. I really hope it picks up soon.

christylive
01-28-2016, 05:03 AM
I've been dreading going on cam all week. I'm getting zero traffic, my stream lags, and I'm continuously getting disconnected. I'm making so little money it's starting to affect my self-esteem. I can't help but think "wtf is wrong with me?"

This is getting ridiculous. I really hope it picks up soon.

I'm so sorry you're feeling down. Just so ya know, nothing is wrong with you. I promise. We all have crappy days, shifts & months. Currently, I believe the majority of us can agree that things haven't been the best or what they used to be for awhile now. It's frustrating when we're left in the dark. Clearly something isn't right with SM but at the end of the day don't ever think that something is wrong with you. I truly wish things go back to the way they used to be.....fingers crossed. Chin up beautiful. Xox

sexkitten_666
01-28-2016, 08:56 AM
I've been dreading going on cam all week. I'm getting zero traffic, my stream lags, and I'm continuously getting disconnected. I'm making so little money it's starting to affect my self-esteem. I can't help but think "wtf is wrong with me?"

This is getting ridiculous. I really hope it picks up soon.

*hugs* It's definitely not you. I felt the same way during the last shitstorm streamate had over the summer. Most of us are going through this slump with you, and it's not you at all. The site just needs to make some changes.

We have our good days and bad days being independent. Sometimes, we make $50+/ an hour daily for a month, then sometimes, we just barely make our goals for a month. It always fluctates, but it's good to remember that the bad times will pass too.

Almost lost my mind from streamate's issues over the summer because I had just moved into a new house and couldn't afford it. Have you tried looking into othr sites to use while SM is slow?

It's always good to have a couple back ups, and clips are always a good passive money maker for slow times.

Sam38g
01-28-2016, 05:41 PM
My Dad told me years ago, "Never put all your eggs in one basket". Always have a back up site & other projects to make money off of, this way when a glitch happens you can switch gears & keep on earning.
The hustle on a private based site is different from a token one most of the time, to get good at both makes me feel like a well rounded performer. That I can survive no matter what is thrown at me.

:)

SuperPookie
01-28-2016, 05:57 PM
^^ I wish I could handle token based sites for when things get slow but I just can't. I tried Chaturbate and after three hours of being there I was so upset that besides crying I actually vomited. I get major stage fright and really confused

SuperPookie
01-28-2016, 06:00 PM
On the original topic- screen froze multiple times and I had a huge lag. Luckily I had a few regulars that saved it from being a complete waste but 3 shows in 3 hours isn't a occasion for doing the happy dance lol

SoloDesire
01-28-2016, 06:28 PM
I think I just saw a tumbleweed roll through my free chat!! OMG it's so dead tonight! Where's that INSANE traffic SM?!!!

Chellyinparadise
01-28-2016, 06:29 PM
I think I just saw a tumbleweed roll through my free chat!! OMG it's so dead tonight! Where's that INSANE traffic SM?!!!

Hope it picks up for you soon.

SoloDesire
01-28-2016, 06:38 PM
Hope it picks up for you soon.

Thanks, but I logged the fuck out! lol I'm not sitting in a dead room.

Sam38g
01-28-2016, 09:13 PM
I say we rename tech support to copy/paste NO HELP at all.... they need to drop the support totally from it, cause it does NOT exist.

Think how it works, is copy paste all the information already on the site & tell the performers multiple times to get a new computer.... then close out ticket.

Next make putting in a ticket almost impossible & take forever to do it.. this way we can report that problems are down because there is less of them.

Keep telling them it is on there end.

Next ask for screen shots.

Then ask them if they read the instructions.

Tell them they need to reboot.

Next tell them they must be directly connected to the router.

Oh, she wrote in again, tell her that computer is old & need a new one.

Now, go back to copy paste again.. Treat them all like they are idiots...

Sam38g
01-28-2016, 09:17 PM
I have 5 ex's who are IT specialist, they call me for help. So it is insulting for SM support to copy and paste instructions I've been over 1000s times to make sure it isn't on my end.

Beginning to think it is an automated system & we are not dealing with a real person at all but a bot.

Sam38g
01-28-2016, 09:23 PM
Maybe we all should chose a day where NONE of us use the smbroadcaster or encoder & just use the normal settings that cost them money with the bandwidth. Lord knows all these tech issues are costing us money.
Already lost my placement from top of first page and now on 2nd....

KatM
01-28-2016, 09:51 PM
SM is a dead zone tonite, all freeloaders & idiots pretending they new so i waste my time explaining things instead of kicking them out, they take advantage of me with the 'i am new' line, i wont explain anything anymore to these guys.
Soo frustrated, where the heck are my regulars, why no traffic on site SM?

Guess what? I dont experience many of the tech issues people have on site because there is no traffic to relate to, from what/where to get disconnected, how to see bit rate or frames drop and so on if all i get are freeloaders, time wasters & pretenders who wont pay?
So i think all is fine here but hey, wait, i am on a dead server, nothing happens here actually, no glitches no nothing cause no traffic to glitch to!!
Therefore i am great except i sit dead here with no business. Sarcasm is all left now.

ETA:
Right after i posted this i got cut off from free chat, nice! NOT!
Not getting back on, i have enough of this ish

BadBitch
01-28-2016, 09:59 PM
Actually I havent tried the SM broadcaster yet. I was thinking that maybe I need to set it up to stop the lag! I am on the 720 now but I have been for a while and I havent had any problems before but at the beginning of this week my internet company was having some issue. Sadly I only have 3Mb to my house because I have to use satellite internet but normally its enough. I also have 4G internet now so I might have to switch it tomorrow to cam because my week was really bad on account of the problems earlier on. Thank you for letting me know this Kat!

The ladies here are so astute! So many of you know exactly who I am and I always thought I was incognito on this site! Most of the time I have no idea who most of you are!

Ha! I prefer to remain anon. I'm hoping peeps don't know who I am. Haha!!!

BadBitch
01-28-2016, 10:00 PM
This has never happened to me? WTH? Everyone saying my cam is lagging. I am so pissed

44037

Yep. I used to get that when I wasn't plugged in.

ENoire
01-28-2016, 10:19 PM
No Cam Girl Unions pretty please. We'd have to start paying union rep fees and negotiate benefits, which means we'd probably get put on a super shitty hourly wage salary that required set hours and all the things that independent contractors don't tend to care for.

Surely you would tailor the union to the requirements of the people in it? I kind of feel like you're posing a false dichotemy here...

BadBitch
01-28-2016, 10:23 PM
I've been dreading going on cam all week. I'm getting zero traffic, my stream lags, and I'm continuously getting disconnected. I'm making so little money it's starting to affect my self-esteem. I can't help but think "wtf is wrong with me?"

This is getting ridiculous. I really hope it picks up soon.

Right there with ya. It's so hard to not think it's you. Sitting in an empty room for 15 min or attempting 3 Gold Shows with $10 total pledged really fucking eats at a girl's self-esteem.

BadBitch
01-28-2016, 10:26 PM
I say we rename tech support to copy/paste NO HELP at all.... they need to drop the support totally from it, cause it does NOT exist.

Think how it works, is copy paste all the information already on the site & tell the performers multiple times to get a new computer.... then close out ticket.

Next make putting in a ticket almost impossible & take forever to do it.. this way we can report that problems are down because there is less of them.

Keep telling them it is on there end.

Next ask for screen shots.

Then ask them if they read the instructions.

Tell them they need to reboot.

Next tell them they must be directly connected to the router.

Oh, she wrote in again, tell her that computer is old & need a new one.

Now, go back to copy paste again.. Treat them all like they are idiots...

Tell them to do a speed test.

Argh.

BadBitch
01-28-2016, 10:27 PM
SM is a dead zone tonite, all freeloaders & idiots pretending they new so i waste my time explaining things instead of kicking them out, they take advantage of me with the 'i am new' line, i wont explain anything anymore to these guys.
Soo frustrated, where the heck are my regulars, why no traffic on site SM?

Guess what? I dont experience many of the tech issues people have on site because there is no traffic to relate to, from what/where to get disconnected, how to see bit rate or frames drop and so on if all i get are freeloaders, time wasters & pretenders who wont pay?
So i think all is fine here but hey, wait, i am on a dead server, nothing happens here actually, no glitches no nothing cause no traffic to glitch to!!
Therefore i am great except i sit dead here with no business. Sarcasm is all left now.

ETA:
Right after i posted this i got cut off from free chat, nice! NOT!
Not getting back on, i have enough of this ish

Why do they say they're new? Just to have us talk to them?

Sam38g
01-28-2016, 10:39 PM
Had guys just now, some could hear me but not see me. others could see me & not hear me, then a few could do both. But still must be an issue on my end.

KatM
01-28-2016, 11:48 PM
Why do they say they're new? Just to have us talk to them?

Yeah that's what i figure out cause well, we wanna close the sale so we talk to them more & guide, help them, give them more of our time u know while they jack off for free & enjoy the attention. Guess that's how they learn to keep us talking while we do our best to convince them to pay. NO MORE attention to these freeloaders from now on!

Blovely
01-29-2016, 12:17 AM
idiots pretending they new so i waste my time explaining things instead of kicking them out, they take advantage of me with the 'i am new' line, i wont explain anything anymore to these guys.

I noticed this too. It seems like in the last month or so alot of guys have been saying this. At first I would actually explain to them how the site worked because I really thought they didn't know. After a couple of weeks of getting more and more guys saying "I'm new, can you help me?" or "This is my first time here can you tell me how the site works?" etc I started ignoring them. Thinking about it now out of all of those guys only 1 went private and that was only after I started ignoring him. In my head I was like "Oh, so now you know how the site works". Def won't be giving those guys anymore of the time or attention.

Hxchayley
01-29-2016, 01:34 AM
Thanks, but I logged the fuck out! lol I'm not sitting in a dead room.

i did the same fucking thing! two hours and like five heads rolled in and out??? NOPE. I hopped on wee hours of the morning and had better luck.
Same with fucking tonight, to hours and byyye, try again after a 'nap'

GODAAMNIT.... i just wanna make money.