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KiaraK
12-12-2019, 12:14 PM
Okay...I have a rant/question. SM no one can hear me, I get choppy or there is a lot of lag, not in video. This is all with audio only. My internet is great, I have checked everything on my end and am not attempting to splitcam when this happens. My sound is excellent on every other site. This was occurring both before and after I upgraded. My input volume continues to show no more than 2-3 green bars. Which even when I can be heard, it goes choppy and then nothing. It’s costing me money. Help?

ravenskyy
12-12-2019, 12:45 PM
Day 3

I am live but I am not showing up as online or offline. I now exist everywhere and nowhere. In between the fabric of space, time, and streamate. Send help.

I love this. It's now my siggy. lol :heartbeat

ravenskyy
12-12-2019, 10:01 PM
Ok, I need SM to fix this placement issue asap! I'm not making a damn thing and I'm getting an increased amount of beggars. I'm also seeing a decrease in my traffic. I need the bs to stop.

webcamcutie
12-13-2019, 12:11 PM
Day 3

I am live but I am not showing up as online or offline. I now exist everywhere and nowhere. In between the fabric of space, time, and streamate. Send help.

Definitely feeling this today. Its doing it again and often, and the whole site will go from displaying 2400 (yes that many online daytime today) to 1800. Sigh.

KatM
12-13-2019, 07:53 PM
Is the placement glitch still going on? Cause i am way too low in my category just before the gold shows :(

ETA: it took more than 30 mins for me to get to my regular spot, i feared SM dumped me to the back pages or so phew!!

gbjenna
12-14-2019, 11:41 AM
My placement is all over the place too. I'm getting so many people come in who I've marked as timewasters and then extra. I can already feel my block list growing and I've not blocked anyone yet!

ravenskyy
12-14-2019, 01:53 PM
I did like 15 shows today and out of all of them, only 1 fucking rating and it was 3 fucking stars!!!!! I haven't had a 3 star rating in 6 months and that was from a pushy asshole that wanted me to do a million things within the first 30 seconds. Hell no! How do I report this fuckery and have it taken off? This is bullshit! I worked my ass off today and no one complained about any of my shows, so how the fuck did I just get a 3 star rating!?!?! I'm beyond pissed. I went through this entire shift with no ratings, just to get one in the end and it was only 3 damn stars. Literally my last show of the shift, and he fucking tipped me! He told me I was beautiful and awesome, but 3 stars tho!?! I wanna scream.

webcamcutie
12-14-2019, 02:26 PM
I did like 15 shows today and out of all of them, only 1 fucking rating and it was 3 fucking stars!!!!! I haven't had a 3 star rating in 6 months and that was from a pushy asshole that wanted me to do a million things within the first 30 seconds. Hell no! How do I report this fuckery and have it taken off? This is bullshit! I worked my ass off today and no one complained about any of my shows, so how the fuck did I just get a 3 star rating!?!?! I'm beyond pissed. I went through this entire shift with no ratings, just to get one in the end and it was only 3 damn stars. Literally my last show of the shift, and he fucking tipped me! He told me I was beautiful and awesome, but 3 stars tho!?! I wanna scream.

Sorry girl that sucks. I think sometimes they have dickbrain when they rate and even though they tipped they just didn't realize it or smashed keys - you can absolutely message support with the contact form and I usually just cut and copy the chat I'd like the rating removed from with a simple note asking them to please remove the rating for this show (link cut/copy) and they'll remove it for me within 1-5days depending how backed up they are with requests!

They shouldn't have a problem removing it for you, don't let it get you down. <3

SoloDesire
12-14-2019, 02:34 PM
I did like 15 shows today and out of all of them, only 1 fucking rating and it was 3 fucking stars!!!!! I haven't had a 3 star rating in 6 months and that was from a pushy asshole that wanted me to do a million things within the first 30 seconds. Hell no! How do I report this fuckery and have it taken off? This is bullshit! I worked my ass off today and no one complained about any of my shows, so how the fuck did I just get a 3 star rating!?!?! I'm beyond pissed. I went through this entire shift with no ratings, just to get one in the end and it was only 3 damn stars. Literally my last show of the shift, and he fucking tipped me! He told me I was beautiful and awesome, but 3 stars tho!?! I wanna scream.

Just write support and be as simple as possible, don't even state the rating. I've never had any issues getting anything lower than 5 stars removed. This is what I write: "Hello! Could you please remove the unfair rating left by user (name and ID number) on (Date and time)? Thank you so much for your help!" And if you got a screenshot send that along with it.

emkato
12-14-2019, 03:26 PM
took every ounce of strength and will power to do my makeup and get on cam after having several panic attacks today and all i get is constant talkers with no intentions of tipping/doing a show and ins and outs. i do not have the mental energy to be nice to these randos for free. im mentally EXHAUSTED. But if i dont make my low goal my bf will accuse m of "not working enough". please cam gods, give me strength

KatM
12-14-2019, 05:19 PM
took every ounce of strength and will power to do my makeup and get on cam after having several panic attacks today and all i get is constant talkers with no intentions of tipping/doing a show and ins and outs. i do not have the mental energy to be nice to these randos for free. im mentally EXHAUSTED. But if i dont make my low goal my bf will accuse m of "not working enough". please cam gods, give me strength

I am sorry :hug:, i too had a few panic attacks this week, i am not used to them as i had a major one 8 months ago and a few since last week, they scare me cause i dont know to handle them.

Boyfriends are sometimes a pain in the ass especially when they have no clue what this job is about.
My ex from many years ago was telling me "u name this a real job? is a couch job", yeah right, is not about the sexual acts that drain me/ us, is the pressure, tension, putting up with all these people plus we need creativity, sales skill and so on, i think we are under higher pressure than many vanilla jobs.

Being a therapist or a teacher or even a doctor of certain specialties is also a 'chair/sitting' job but how much knowledge u need to sort people out/ teach them and put up with the 'not cooperative' guys (patients, clients or students/pupils)?
They really have no idea unless they on cam themselves as single performers or in a couple account.
I hate when bf's have expectations like that, they buttheads! :butthead: . It really irks me :irked:

webcamcutie
12-14-2019, 05:45 PM
Hugs to both. I mean imma be real honest when I say I have A LOT of patience and Streamate fucking killed me this week. I rage quit several times and gave up early today.

Hope everyone has a profitable bonus week!

DahliaSimone
12-14-2019, 06:16 PM
God. Its like the bonus week hit and all the guys decided its Douchebag Time. Sonofabitch.

KatM
12-14-2019, 06:29 PM
Going to get ready for my shift, will see how it goes. Due to high pressure & anxiety recently my sleep is really messed up and i get on cam at weird times for me and i sleep at weird hrs as well. Good luck everyone!

TrifilinCamHo
12-14-2019, 06:31 PM
God. Its like the bonus week hit and all the guys decided its Douchebag Time. Sonofabitch.


Yeah bonus weeks are always historically excruciating for me as well. I worked this morning before the pay period ended/bonus week started and it was great, just logged back on to start the new week and the first half hour was the following - dude telling me I look flat-chested, dude demanding over and over that I wave to him to prove that I am live, so many rude demands for free ass/tits/whatever I lost count and zero privates. I logged off so I could stress eat some candy and come bitch about it here LOL. Back to it I guess:frown:

DahliaSimone
12-14-2019, 06:35 PM
Yeah bonus weeks are always historically excruciating for me as well. I worked this morning before the pay period ended/bonus week started and it was great, just logged back on to start the new week and the first half hour was the following - dude telling me I look flat-chested, dude demanding over and over that I wave to him to prove that I am live, so many rude demands for free ass/tits/whatever I lost count and zero privates. I logged off so I could stress eat some candy and come bitch about it here LOL. Back to it I guess:frown:

I got a puke-face emoji and a guy admitting to just sitting there stroking in the open room.....maybe i should call it a day and give it a go tomorrow. This morning was okay, not great but okay. So far tonight its awful.

KatM
12-14-2019, 08:16 PM
For anyone trying to connect the toy on SM and is getting a connection error, make sure u online on ur phone when doing the procedure!
Silly me i forgot to go online, i am such a dork! ;)

laurielegs
12-14-2019, 09:24 PM
I got a puke-face emoji and a guy admitting to just sitting there stroking in the open room.....maybe i should call it a day and give it a go tomorrow. This morning was okay, not great but okay. So far tonight its awful.

Same here. Really horrible abusive crowd in my room and nobody spending. I logged out but trying to make myself get back online.

anonamiss
12-14-2019, 11:41 PM
it's slow/dead as fuck for a saturday, what the hell. i've been on for almost four hours. would've expected to have made at least twice as much by now.

i've had a lot of people tell me my cam looks pixelated and that my audio is bad.

when i check myself i look/sound fine. so I don't get it.

also, all week my regs are telling me they arent' getting notified when i log on.

maybe it's just bonus week glitches fucking with everything.

ravenskyy
12-14-2019, 11:56 PM
Where did all these pushy beggars come from? I've noticed an increase in the past month and it's making my shifts unbearable. So many fuckers coming into my room screaming at me to show tits, show pussy, flash, freebie, show something, blah blah blah! And some of my spenders aren't helping. Why come into my room and encourage the freeloading by being one yourself? You've spent in the past, so why act new to this? Literally, this guy comes into my room and spends every time, but now, he has the nerve to try and make me work for privates. He throws $1 at me and expects me to get on my hands and knees and beg for a private show. Bitch, NO!

My night shifts are usually pretty good, but tonight is just sad. My day shift today was decent, so I didn't expect this shift to be trash. I'm going to bed. Good luck y'all.

anonamiss
12-15-2019, 02:19 AM
worked over 6 hours tonight and made so much less than my regular average. the fact that I set a $300 goal for myself is a fucking joke tonight. even with the 30% bonus, I didn't even come close.

really hope this is not how the whole bonus week is going to be. this is the last paycheck of the year and I was planning on it being one of my best ever. tonight was absolutely not encouraging.

seicento
12-15-2019, 02:24 AM
Oh no, I have an 8 hours shift planned for today but what I read here makes me nervous already.

PixiieGirl
12-15-2019, 09:38 AM
I really sometimes feel like giving up on SM, not that I don’t make money there, but the fact my stream is always crap due to my internet really gets to me - I know I could do so much better if my internet wasn’t awful :(

Glamourmilf
12-15-2019, 09:59 AM
Same here. Really horrible abusive crowd in my room and nobody spending. I logged out but trying to make myself get back online.


Where did all these pushy beggars come from? I've noticed an increase in the past month and it's making my shifts unbearable. So many fuckers coming into my room screaming at me to show tits, show pussy, flash, freebie, show something, blah blah blah! And some of my spenders aren't helping. Why come into my room and encourage the freeloading by being one yourself? You've spent in the past, so why act new to this? Literally, this guy comes into my room and spends every time, but now, he has the nerve to try and make me work for privates. He throws $1 at me and expects me to get on my hands and knees and beg for a private show. Bitch, NO!

My night shifts are usually pretty good, but tonight is just sad. My day shift today was decent, so I didn't expect this shift to be trash. I'm going to bed. Good luck y'all.

I wasn't going to mention this, until I read these posts.
It's been the same in my room. Even if I keep it on Classic Chat.
It's like some flood gate has been opened, letting all the misfit toys, and abusive men out, and they've been dumped into our chatrooms.
I never go into other girls chatrooms, ( because I'm too busy making money in mine.)
But, this past week, I felt like I needed to take a peek, because I felt like I was being targeted.
I wasn't. What I saw was that the same thing was happening to other models.
Maybe guys are taking out their holiday angst on us?
Who knows?
It's just ruining my vibe is all I know.
Particularly since I still don't know if I'll have a job at Streamate in 2 weeks.:-\
The thought of having to stream for 30-40 hours every week if I'm an employee, makes me cringe, if I have to deal with these kinds of guys.
I'll do it. But, I'm going to drive my own traffic to my page.

TrifilinCamHo
12-15-2019, 03:46 PM
worked over 6 hours tonight and made so much less than my regular average. the fact that I set a $300 goal for myself is a fucking joke tonight. even with the 30% bonus, I didn't even come close.

really hope this is not how the whole bonus week is going to be. this is the last paycheck of the year and I was planning on it being one of my best ever. tonight was absolutely not encouraging.


Damn you lasted 6 hours, props! I lasted like 3, maybe less. Last night was BRUTAL and so uncharacteristically weird, dead, & laden with more jerkoff dipshit abusive freeloaders than I've ever seen on a Saturday. Also completely dreading this whole week but tryna stay positive, maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised???

Erika_Xstacy
12-15-2019, 09:51 PM
I am only lasting bc PDG turned me back on to Tetris.
I can't stop. lol Im happy bc of the pretty screen

Esixxx
12-15-2019, 10:41 PM
I'm thinking I should have had more coffee for this night

webcamcutie
12-15-2019, 11:09 PM
I didn't drink any coffee before my shift tonight because I didn't want to be stuck up and tossing and turning, lol. Last night 45% paid, then working 7hrs today it brought me down to a total of 24% paid overall for 14 hours online, tonight, 3.5hrs into a 5hr shift and I'm at 6% paid. Okay, cool, we're playing THIS game I see.

Esixxx
12-15-2019, 11:20 PM
45% is damn good! I am still sitting at 0% got gold though and some texting going on.

Marina Starr
12-16-2019, 09:13 AM
Is the site having problems or what? I was on for an hour and all I got was ins and outs.

webcamcutie
12-16-2019, 09:45 AM
45% is damn good! I am still sitting at 0% got gold though and some texting going on.

Yes! Sat night was amazing for me, I didnt ever want to log off and judging by how its been SINCE then I prob shouldn't have! Sunday daytime I hit a record low hrly earnings for 11hrs total. Its just sad. I don't even know what to say anymore at this point. I'm lucky I had one 'normal' shift esp cause last week was so awful for me but I figured maybe it was going to show that this week would be better but so far its not looking too good..hopefully it picks up or stops being a glitchfest the rest of the week because doing another 60hrs or so of this (whatever 'this' is) this week I mean I'll be real honest, idk if I have it in me. I want to, and I want to do a lot of hours to get a good bonus, but making 1/4 my reg hrly is KILLING me and burning me TF out. ;(

Glamourmilf
12-16-2019, 09:53 AM
Is the site having problems or what? I was on for an hour and all I got was ins and outs.

I'm wondering this too.
All I've had for the last couple of days have been ins, outs, especially with shows.
The guy gets booted a few times, then never comes back.
Or, I'll get extremely short shows.
Even in my long gold shows, nobody stays connected.
The c2c option has been an issue.
I just noticed an option for the guy to either put on his mic or cam.
Has this always been there, or am I high?:-\

webcamcutie
12-16-2019, 10:00 AM
Is the site having problems or what? I was on for an hour and all I got was ins and outs.

Sums up all Sunday and this morning for me so far (and most of last week). boo.

webcamcutie
12-16-2019, 10:02 AM
I'm wondering this too.
All I've had for the last couple of days have been ins, outs, especially with shows.
The guy gets booted a few times, then never comes back.
Or, I'll get extremely short shows.
Even in my long gold shows, nobody stays connected.
The c2c option has been an issue.
I just noticed an option for the guy to either put on his mic or cam.
Has this always been there, or am I high?:-\

I had this with a guy, where they can just do audio only with no c2c? I think its new, and might explain why c2c has had so many issues lately also. But I'm feeling everything you're describing too. Long time regs that ALWAYS do long shows suddenly getting booted out of my room into the abyss to never return again, etc. Sucks. ;(

Marina Starr
12-16-2019, 10:05 AM
Except for the freeloaders, timewasters they always could see us just fine.


Sums up all Sunday and this morning for me so far (and most of last week). boo.

webcamcutie
12-16-2019, 10:11 AM
Except for the freeloaders, timewasters they always could see us just fine.

Facts. the problem is with the way its been acting with me I haven't even had many freeloaders/timewasters which makes me KNOW its broken. Because if things we're running halfway decent you are always going to have them at the very least. When there is no one around and no one coming in/out, etc, theres problems.

seicento
12-16-2019, 12:02 PM
So support gets back to me a week later, for the issues I had last monday. Every single person was in and then out with connection issue note. When I emailed I mentioned that I was using both SMC and SMB and attached a screen shot. Today they asked me for a screen shot and what I was using to stream, SMB, SMC, NEON? I replied back saying I feel like you haven't read my email but thank you. Omg. What are those paid for? They should give us a bigger % just for going through the tech issues on our own. That's why I never go to support for help and I come here if I can't figure by myself. Not once I received more help here from y'all than from sm support.

ep2002
12-16-2019, 06:02 PM
I wasn't going to mention this, until I read these posts.
It's been the same in my room. Even if I keep it on Classic Chat.
It's like some flood gate has been opened, letting all the misfit toys, and abusive men out, and they've been dumped into our chatrooms.
I never go into other girls chatrooms, ( because I'm too busy making money in mine.)
But, this past week, I felt like I needed to take a peek, because I felt like I was being targeted.
I wasn't. What I saw was that the same thing was happening to other models.
Maybe guys are taking out their holiday angst on us?
Who knows?
It's just ruining my vibe is all I know.
Particularly since I still don't know if I'll have a job at Streamate in 2 weeks.:-\
The thought of having to stream for 30-40 hours every week if I'm an employee, makes me cringe, if I have to deal with these kinds of guys.
I'll do it. But, I'm going to drive my own traffic to my page.

I'm curious, as an employee you need to be paid hourly/salary or at the VERY least, base plus commission (unless it's different in the States). Are they going to be giving you that?


So support gets back to me a week later, for the issues I had last monday. Every single person was in and then out with connection issue note. When I emailed I mentioned that I was using both SMC and SMB and attached a screen shot. Today they asked me for a screen shot and what I was using to stream, SMB, SMC, NEON? I replied back saying I feel like you haven't read my email but thank you. Omg. What are those paid for? They should give us a bigger % just for going through the tech issues on our own. That's why I never go to support for help and I come here if I can't figure by myself. Not once I received more help here from y'all than from sm support.


I think that girls should strike SM.

I left there about 2 years ago b/c I can't STAND It when there are so many technical issues & they blame us for them & do dick shit to fix them. The stress from that & all the FLers is terrible.

And I will NOT work for pimps. Pimpls are people (male or female) who think that anyone in the adult industry doesn't deserve to be treated with resect & takes more money than the service they provide.

Yes it costs them a lot of money to run their site (don't htink it doesn't), but they are using an old piece of crap application that was built YEARS ago & no longer works.

Instead of recreating it from scracth which is what ANY good IT would do, they just keep putting lazy patch after lazy patch making things worse & worse.

Pick a day you all can handle not working & strike until they get their fucking site working & they treat you with respect via e-mails.

ravenskyy
12-16-2019, 09:48 PM
2 support emails later and nothing. Fuck you Streamate! My placement has been fucking awful this week and I'm not making shit. I can't believe that I'm getting fucked over so badly for the bonus week, out of all the weeks. I look forward to quitting in the next few months, this is bullshit!

KatM
12-17-2019, 06:24 PM
Deadville!! I had a nice start on sunday then could not work on monday and now i am sitting in a dead room at $0 for 1 hr and 45 mins already. I tried morning shift my time today and made nothing in 1.5 hrs, WTF?!

NitaBaby
12-18-2019, 08:17 AM
thought I'd actually link my vibe toy to sm's feelconnect for a change since I'm not really in the mood for faking.

the damn thing won't connect. how ironic, since the name of my vibe is the "Sync".

princess_casual
12-18-2019, 08:49 AM
Anyone ever have issues using logitech C920? I have a new cam, worked perfectly yesterday but suddenly isn't showing up either for connet or the broadcaster. It works in the logitech app too. I tried unplugging, changing USB drive, restarting browser a million times, restarting laptop... nothing works! I'm so frustrated, been trying for an hour with no success...

ravenskyy
12-18-2019, 09:37 AM
I'm pretty sure that SM picks certain girls and messes with their placement. Mine has been bad, and getting worse, for 3 weeks now. And yet, I see the same girls on the first page, with a consistent amount of guys in their rooms. Fucking bullshit!!!! My room traffic is 1/3 of what it was before. No one wants to talk. No one wants to spend. I'm just sitting here, making nothing!!!! I don't even have as many potential members stalking me! This is incredibly depressing. Fuck you streamate!!!!

Nikki_Fox
12-18-2019, 01:10 PM
I have had several issues of guys sending me their cam ( using connect) - the c2c box goes black like its going to connect then it says "c2c ended" in the chat dialogue box - I filled out the RIDICULOUSLY long support ticket twice and received the standard copy and paste response

I cant remember how to check my placement with my state blocked ??? but another cam girl in NY told me i was not showing up at all in placement or if you searched my name- i had been on for 3 or 4 hours at that point and only made a dismal 40.00 - my recent average has been 30/36 an hour not 10.00 GEEZ SM - pretty please fix ASAP

webcamcutie
12-18-2019, 02:13 PM
I'm pretty sure that SM picks certain girls and messes with their placement. Mine has been bad, and getting worse, for 3 weeks now. And yet, I see the same girls on the first page, with a consistent amount of guys in their rooms. Fucking bullshit!!!! My room traffic is 1/3 of what it was before. No one wants to talk. No one wants to spend. I'm just sitting here, making nothing!!!! I don't even have as many potential members stalking me! This is incredibly depressing. Fuck you streamate!!!!

Same thing happens to me. I'll have a good week (normal week at that) or two and my placement will go up to normal then out of no where it's like a lightswitch turns off and so does my traffic, regulars, pots and earnings and my placement plummets further and further because of it.

It's been happening to me the last 6 months, the difference is this time cause everything is way more glitchy my hrly has been cut by 1/2 to as low as 1/4.

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but if the shoe fits... the pattern is way too consistent (I spreadsheet track earnings by shifts/days/hrly with excel) to be a coincidence anymore. *shrug*

emkato
12-18-2019, 03:41 PM
I am sorry :hug:, i too had a few panic attacks this week, i am not used to them as i had a major one 8 months ago and a few since last week, they scare me cause i dont know to handle them.

Boyfriends are sometimes a pain in the ass especially when they have no clue what this job is about.
My ex from many years ago was telling me "u name this a real job? is a couch job", yeah right, is not about the sexual acts that drain me/ us, is the pressure, tension, putting up with all these people plus we need creativity, sales skill and so on, i think we are under higher pressure than many vanilla jobs.

Being a therapist or a teacher or even a doctor of certain specialties is also a 'chair/sitting' job but how much knowledge u need to sort people out/ teach them and put up with the 'not cooperative' guys (patients, clients or students/pupils)?
They really have no idea unless they on cam themselves as single performers or in a couple account.
I hate when bf's have expectations like that, they buttheads! :butthead: . It really irks me :irked:

i know this is a late reply but im just seeing this now! im so happy someone gets it and im not alone. its stressful some days, he just got a new job thats commission based selling mattresses (theres really good money in it, mattresses are friggin expensive!) but he says some days he may not make anything, so im hoping he may start being a bit more understanding.

emkato
12-18-2019, 04:06 PM
oh my LAWD is today bad. haven't been online the past 3 days due to my monthly visitor but im online today just offering no penetration, but doesn't even to seem to matter because of course the week of the bonuses is dead af.

i know im just thinking too much but its like they offer a bonus to get us to work more and be OH SO grateful that they wanna give us this tiny Christmas bonus that does not even matter when you factor in taxes, but then secretly kill traffic so they dont have to pay up much towards the bonus. If you're familiar with gaming, Streamate is basically the equivalent to Bethesda in the sex industry. they listen to nothing thats actually logical and just keep putting cheap dollar store band aids as patches on this broken ass site. ugh im so MAD

Miss_ShaSha
12-18-2019, 04:37 PM
I'm pretty sure that SM picks certain girls and messes with their placement. Mine has been bad, and getting worse, for 3 weeks now. And yet, I see the same girls on the first page, with a consistent amount of guys in their rooms. Fucking bullshit!!!! My room traffic is 1/3 of what it was before. No one wants to talk. No one wants to spend. I'm just sitting here, making nothing!!!! I don't even have as many potential members stalking me! This is incredibly depressing. Fuck you streamate!!!!

Yup. But it ain't as bad as mine. I dropped 20 rows when I took 12 days off. With my regular days off it's only 10 days off. I've taken 7 day vacations and only dropped 2 rows.

Since I've mentioned my departure my placement is horrific. I can't get a GOLD show to go through no matter how hard I try. And although yesterday was good today is the absolute pits. I'm two rows lower than yesterday and I made $274.

I'm so goddamn livid I can't see straight. I'm not supposed to be bitching, but FUCK SM RIGHT NOW!!!

Miss_ShaSha
12-18-2019, 04:49 PM
AND who are all the girls on the first page? Half of them don't even look familiar!!! WTF is up with placement?!?!

emkato
12-18-2019, 04:52 PM
AND who are all the girls on the first page? Half of them don't even look familiar!!! WTF is up with placement?!?!

do you check the front page not logged in as a member? thats how i view it because ive never made a customer account. im usually between the 4th and 7th row of the front page depending on whos online but i always wonder if other people see it totally different .