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Halo88
10-20-2015, 01:12 AM
Do you think it has anything to do with pornhub? I'm wondering if some of the regulars had accounts thru pornhub, or pornhub live. A few months ago you could see streamate live models on there. Now however the pornhub live is cams.Com models.

The live webcam area on pornhub is still SM girls, I just checked.

Halo88
10-20-2015, 01:32 AM
Porn have been around for years and so is sex work. Sex workers would be starving and all cam sites should already gone out of business based on your logic.

This is true. People visit and spend on cam girls for the live interaction experience. Cam girls offer that extra something that people can't get from videos and recordings. That makes our specific market unique.

Pearl_Sugar
10-20-2015, 01:57 AM
I haven't read through all 9 pages of this thread, so I might repeat something that has already been mentioned, but here I go.

I have a high-up model friend that heard from either Liz or Vanessa (can't remember) that SM is no longer buying traffic. That is a true statement. I agree that whitelabels promoting is awful. I haven't been working SM much the past few months because every time I do log on, I have issues. I have customers telling me they are getting errors, I have customers telling me my cam is freezing even though I have a perfect internet connection and a solid PC/webcam setup. I'm tired of being told that my i7 and C920 and 30+mbps upload speeds are the problem. Every time I log on, only my regulars from the past 3+ years buy shows anymore: and not many are still around. New, big, long-term spenders don't seem to exist, but plenty of beggars and guy who want to date me instead of buy shows are rampant.

My highest spender and longest-term customer will no longer do shows with me on SM because of site glitches and shitty customer support.

According to their stupid site rating page, my average bitrate is 500 but it never drops below 2000 in the encoder.

They should stop pouring their focus into even higher HD and useless little cosmetic updates and instead fix the glitches and start buying traffic again. It's utterly ridiculous.

1pandoradesire
10-20-2015, 03:36 AM
The live webcam area on pornhub is still SM girls, I just checked.

That is so weird because when i looked the other day it was cams.com interface, you could buy models viritual gifts like on cams.com. Hummm

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-20-2015, 05:06 AM
I really wonder...does someone from the streamate support actually bothers to read all what we talk in here?
And maybe just do something for real, finnaly?

I sometimes feel like I sit in a big yard surrounded by stone walls, with the other models and all discuss and complain about the hard conditions, no matter how good we do our jobs, while the cam gods (aka streamate owners/ support or what the fuck they are) are throwing us over that big stone fence a few pieces of food and laugh and have fun watching us from above, how we struggle.

And they take us 65% of the food too. Instead, they give us some fishing rods to fish in lakes without water for extra 40% of the food.

Because is not enough I sit on cam 8 hours , i have to spend another 4 hours for promotion to bring members from twitter, that dissapear when they realise they have to pay.


Also, what is the streamate support doing? how incompetent can you be, to not be able to solve all theese problems in so any months?

And ALSO, I tried to understand when some models in here were talking about that 40% percent we get if we do promotion. I have all the respect for what thei tried to explain. It makes sense, but...
Ok I tried to agree with them for a while. Then I had that thought: If i still have to work to bring my own members, why I don't do it for myself? Why do i have to waste time in promotion for STREAMATE when i can simply go indy?
This is what I am talking about. Why to be partener with you, you take me 70% (because I am in Europe and I am more stupid in your eyes), you give me no traffic but u tell me "go and find your own clients and i give u 40% more". No shit! and what do u OFFER me for those 30% left that you still take from me, if I did all the work for you? Oh, because that client will go and maybe spend with another model and from there u will get 65% or 70% , from my work and u throw me 20%. When I can simply do that for myself? And take 100%!
This makes no sense to me.


This is how I feel.
I'm frustrated.

This was beautiful it's like you had your AHA moment midpost.


I get the concert theory but do you go to a live concert everyday? For a while you could find streamate models gold shows for free on pornhub, not sure if you still can I haven't looked for a while. The dip or nonexistent traffic on streamate don't mean much to me, I'm retiring by the end of the month, after 4 yeas it's time to move on my photography is taking a jump and luckily my husband got a great job. I still feel for fellow cam models, I hope like hell streamate fixes it's shit!! If it does not, I hope you are able to go indy and get your fair share of your had work, and it is hard work. Best wishes to all!!!

I feel the same. I have to keep reminding myself that that I have other eggs and am destined for other things. It gets tricky though. Anyways I love Simon Sinek. He teaches people how to connect with their WHY and inspire others. In my other field I love working with people and finding out what inspires them etc. team building, positive circles. I've found that his seminars help with family relationships and not just business. He's really the only one I like because too many of the other focus on the I and the Me instead of the WE. I spend way too much time being self absorbed. It's nice to find ways to help others and lift people up. And if you guys think I'm rambling I promise I'm getting to a point soon. :) By watching him I found out that my WHY is being of service to others. It honestly makes me feel complete when I can figure out what motivates others and then help them focus on what they love. Then I started to focus on HOW i can do that. By being kind and supportive of the people in my community. Listening to what others are saying/writing and what the are not saying/writing helps me get back to career mode. And now Im on the WHAT and that's in a very specific field. I'd love for everyone to be able to get to this point. I don't know if this guy can help you with SM? But it may help some of us figure out what drives us and remind us why we do what we do. And if it's all still worth it? It's good to talk about these things and there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying things are fucked up. But now it's time to start transitioning into what we are gonna do about it. Any guys if you are still reading this please watch this video. 44 seconds that's all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4KaNUSdI5Q

1pandoradesire
10-20-2015, 09:23 AM
Perfect video, thanks!!!

Angelfaced
10-20-2015, 09:34 AM
has anyone gotten thier check this week ? mine shouldve been here yesterday and it looks like the mail mightve already been here.

xCamLovex
10-20-2015, 10:28 AM
did I read correctly that if you find a GS on a tube site you can contact Vanessa? On MFC you can file free DMCA takedowns when you're logged into Model Web.

brittany_bitch
10-20-2015, 03:45 PM
i actually asked liz about them not buying traffic she said they are still paying for traffic and the rumor mill goes wild when they hear one thing that may or may not be true. Maybe she felt she was not inclined to tell me the truth if there is a truth to it or maybe she is supposed to keep quiet about it either way there is no traffic for some people and no regulars i feel like some of our percentage needs to be given back we need to be the voice for each other here we need our traffic and i do not understand why they would stop paying for traffic to lose themselves money it makes no sense. I hope they get the traffic back and i hope they do not go under but i do feel like soon noone will make money there except page one girls i mean if you think about there are pages and pages of models they have to know most of them have no traffic. How about you ladies on page one chime in for a second and let us know how your traffic has been overall on the front page because if things are staying the same then its evident page one has traffic and some other pages just do not. I know there are slow and bad days for everybody but not having traffic at all is a huge issue not just a bad day!

Marina Starr
10-20-2015, 04:26 PM
If we don't make money, Streamate won't make money so it's hard for me to grasp the concept of them stop buying traffic. Why would they continue to update and invest in the site if they're letting it sink? I just cannot.
This pretty much sums it up:
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i actually asked liz about them not buying traffic she said they are still paying for traffic and the rumor mill goes wild when they hear one thing that may or may not be true. Maybe she felt she was not inclined to tell me the truth if there is a truth to it or maybe she is supposed to keep quiet about it either way there is no traffic for some people and no regulars i feel like some of our percentage needs to be given back we need to be the voice for each other here we need our traffic and i do not understand why they would stop paying for traffic to lose themselves money it makes no sense. I hope they get the traffic back and i hope they do not go under but i do feel like soon noone will make money there except page one girls i mean if you think about there are pages and pages of models they have to know most of them have no traffic. How about you ladies on page one chime in for a second and let us know how your traffic has been overall on the front page because if things are staying the same then its evident page one has traffic and some other pages just do not. I know there are slow and bad days for everybody but not having traffic at all is a huge issue not just a bad day!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-20-2015, 05:06 PM
i actually asked liz about them not buying traffic she said they are still paying for traffic and the rumor mill goes wild when they hear one thing that may or may not be true. Maybe she felt she was not inclined to tell me the truth if there is a truth to it or maybe she is supposed to keep quiet about it either way there is no traffic for some people and no regulars i feel like some of our percentage needs to be given back we need to be the voice for each other here we need our traffic and i do not understand why they would stop paying for traffic to lose themselves money it makes no sense. I hope they get the traffic back and i hope they do not go under but i do feel like soon noone will make money there except page one girls i mean if you think about there are pages and pages of models they have to know most of them have no traffic. How about you ladies on page one chime in for a second and let us know how your traffic has been overall on the front page because if things are staying the same then its evident page one has traffic and some other pages just do not. I know there are slow and bad days for everybody but not having traffic at all is a huge issue not just a bad day!

We have. From the top of the page down to the bottom of page 1. Everyone has complained and had something to say about the changes. For me traffic is nonstop. The same guys come in every single time I log in. But they do not spend. They do not speak. They are not connecting to my room and many others. Streamate is aware of the issues. People who use OBS,Adobe,SM Broadcaster are experiencing these issues. Being on page one of SM is not the save all solution that some people think it is. If anything it sucks because you see the revolving door of guys with a greater frequency. I don't know about them not buying traffic. I can't be sure of that. But I get traffic to my room. I use to tweet my link for a bit, but then I stopped doing that. Guys tell me I'm in a private when they enter my room. Most of them are on mobile devices.

Nocturnelle
10-20-2015, 05:19 PM
"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"

Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.

I hate these posts.

Marina Starr
10-20-2015, 05:34 PM
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"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"

Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.

I hate these posts.

webcamcutie
10-20-2015, 05:50 PM
Anyone remember when WS was first implemented and the traffic 'died' and the site went to hell for 6+ months? Sure its slower and perhaps maybe not as MUCH traffic (20-30-40 guys in freechat between pvts, not back to back pvts, etc) like you're used to, but to say they've completely stopped buying traffic is absurd.

I fixed every single issue I had from my computer, to a new webcam, to my internet so much that my ISP got TIRED of me calling them out to my house to fix it, to getting everything fixed and done and even hunkering down and going back to my old prices (I jacked my prices up during summer when I was only able to work 10-15 hours a week) pre-surgery in May to see if thats perhaps why my regulars just suddenly vanished (just because they weren't coming in and complaining about my prices being higher didn't mean they didn't think it and just decided to boycott me!), and a lot of them are coming back and more and more per day. I'm around the middle of page one, and my earnings are only about 10-15/less hr average then they were prior to all the 720 stuff, summer slowdown, etc and my placement tanked a bit due to less earnings and more time online while my ISP was taking a shit on me so I'm working on getting it back up. So what if I dont have 20 guys in freechat staring at my cleavage and jerking off to my face? As long as I'm making a reasonable amount hourly (which most definitely changes day to day and shift to shift) I'm seeing at the end of the week after investing my time and working ALL of my scheduled hours, I'm RIGHT where I need to be and not taking THAT much of a loss and maybe increasing my hours 5-10/weeky to get there.

So sometimes it is the bigger picture. The guys that sit in silence, or go in and out, perhaps they are on mobile and CANNOT connect to your room and they are REALLY not even there, they're stuck in loading screen hell. Lets face it, a large % of SM's client base is using mobile these days, its convenient, theyre at work in the bathroom and wanna jerk off quick, whatever the case may be, its just unfortunate that SM's mobile platform is most definitely NOT where it needs to be and hasn't been for a while! Perhaps they come in because your cam is frozen and they are trying to refresh to connect, I give the benefit of the doubt and make sure I am constantly checking my feed when I see things like this with my OWN cell phone on my mobile network, and if *I* can't connect to my room either the first try, or after the 2nd refresh, then I just reboot my room and it all goes back to normal possibly because I jumped on a different SM server.

No day is ever the same, sometimes its dead, sometimes its busy, sometimes when the site makes changes there is a 'lull' in traffic, but after hosting for SM for almost 5 years there is ALWAYS ups and downs of camming no matter where you are! Enjoy the good busy days while you can, and hunker down and prepare to sit and possibly cam longer than an hour or two on the days that arent, you never know when a whale will come along and save your day, and sometimes that's all it takes. Always have to look at the bigger picture in situations like this, I'm just happy that I got everything fixed that I needed to fix on my end (and I'm sure support is too because I'm not blaming them for shit that was my fault and even got them to doublecheck numerous things for me while going through this month long process of overhauling my stuff), and if I have an issue beyond this I contact support with screencaps showing where all of my stuff is running perfect and get them to investigate to come up with a solution. The 720 streaming is some serious business, its almost like ONE little thing wrong with it will screw up everything. I can't tell you how many girls I creeped on where they had perfect picture, but their mouths weren't matching up to what they were saying, or their cam is jerking because their PC can't handle the new settings, or whatever the case may be. I almost always want to find them somehow to tell them what's going on, but then they might be offended and think I'm a troll, so I sit in silence instead. Some people can be too touchy. They might get offended because they were being creeped even though I'm just a camgirl that would love to help out another one that could possibly be having issues they don't even know about!

Bottom line, I'm a front page host, I used to be 3-4 rows down on front page but now I'm about mid-halfway because of my drop in earnings from all my tech crap, and now my earnings are turning back to almost normal. And it's not all regular customers too, I've had quite a few of new ones this week and last week, so the myth about them stopping to buy traffic I would say is exactly what it is, a myth. There is always doom and gloom every time something like this happens, and this won't be the last time either, I can assure you of that, part of the business and the platform we work with, us cam girls are strong, we WILL survive!

Oh and I forgot to add, before anyone reads my post and think that I'm saying the glitches are 100% fixed and everything is all fine with rainbows and flying puppies and unicorns, thats not what I'm saying in this post, I'm regarding some of the issues with traffic being slower, silent members, etc. There is still most definitely some glitches with people going to pvt and exclusive (the pause button trick, being stuck in limbo hell, etc) and issues with members being booted, the mobile issues, etc, I've still noticed that going on also. I had one custie come into a pvt today, he was freezing up (most likely on his end he stated) so I told him to log out, and come back in. I then saw him come in and out and in and out and in and out of freechat like 15x while I was still in pvt with someone else. It wasn't until that pvt ended with them, and I paused my room, unpaused, and then msg'd him, that he could come back in and see me and do pvt again (he wasn't able to rejoin once he had left before). But whose to say if that was on his end, or SMs end, or a combination of both. Theres so many factors that go into play, so I wouldn't say its 100% glitch free, nor would I say the traffic or quality of traffic is like it was perhaps a year and a half ago, I'm stating from my personal experience and what I've been through since the major crash back in August to now, and how things are changing for me, and what I have done to make sure it 100% is NOT my fault.

justanothercamgirl
10-20-2015, 05:53 PM
Does anyone else find the humour in the fact that this thread was started and labeled as a venting thread to keep the venting out of the original Streamate thread and yet people are complaining above about people venting about Streamate in a thread clearly labeled that it is meant for venting or is it just me?

Yeah, probably just me. ;)

KatM
10-20-2015, 06:05 PM
^^^ I know right? You can never win LOL.
My vent for tonite, SM SUCKS!!, it's dead as fuck for me! Yea, i am in the right thread to say this, am i? Hahaaa!!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-20-2015, 06:09 PM
Does anyone else find the humour in the fact that this thread was started and labeled as a venting thread to keep the venting out of the original Streamate thread and yet people are complaining above about people venting about Streamate in a thread clearly labeled that it is meant for venting or is it just me?

Yeah, probably just me. ;)

No girl it's not just you. But I'm having a really amazing day and decided to overlook it. I will be back in a bit with some more videos. Ya'll are gonna be sick of me if you aren't already.

Redcandy
10-20-2015, 06:12 PM
Ive also been on Sm for 5 years. Around 2013 YES! Sm did decreased! Is this the end for Sm? Maybe not yet. Men lie.. Women lie But numbers don't Lie! They are on a downward spiral. When top row performers 1-3 rows are only in paid chat 25 to 29% something is wrong. I also have traffic but its not like it used to be. When I first took note it was after Streamgate. Traffic went else where and has not recover since. And if they don't get there site compatible for mobile users then it will decrease even more. I lose money ever day because customers on mobile once they take me private they get a black screen. I had 1 regular tried for 5 mins then he gave up.

kortneykay
10-20-2015, 07:30 PM
i actually asked liz about them not buying traffic she said they are still paying for traffic and the rumor mill goes wild when they hear one thing that may or may not be true. Maybe she felt she was not inclined to tell me the truth if there is a truth to it or maybe she is supposed to keep quiet about it either way there is no traffic for some people and no regulars i feel like some of our percentage needs to be given back we need to be the voice for each other here we need our traffic and i do not understand why they would stop paying for traffic to lose themselves money it makes no sense. I hope they get the traffic back and i hope they do not go under but i do feel like soon noone will make money there except page one girls i mean if you think about there are pages and pages of models they have to know most of them have no traffic. How about you ladies on page one chime in for a second and let us know how your traffic has been overall on the front page because if things are staying the same then its evident page one has traffic and some other pages just do not. I know there are slow and bad days for everybody but not having traffic at all is a huge issue not just a bad day!

My traffic had a few hiccups a few days this month but overall it's been great for me on the front page :D

IllyriaStorm
10-20-2015, 07:40 PM
I'm not high on the front page--I'm typically anywhere from mid front page to first row second--and the last couple weeks have actually been terrific for me. With the exception of a couple of days I've had steady traffic. Now, the site glitches are a different story--they're KILLING my paid percentage. Yesterday I had three different (new!) customers try to take me exclusive and nothing happened.

brittany_bitch
10-20-2015, 08:13 PM
thank you all for chiming in :) So it seems that on the front page there is some traffic but more glitching and on the 2nd and 3rd for me no traffic at all and also perfect feed no glitches lol so weird

EllieGold
10-20-2015, 09:01 PM
I'm now a page 1 model after being on pages 2-5 for a couple years. Often I'm half way down the page, but I'm on page 1. I put in consistent hours and work my ass off. However, after August I did notice a huge decrease in regulars. September was completely awful but I did take a lot of time off then. October has bloody hell for the hours I'm putting in. My hourly has dropped alot! I'm here to vent because this thread is meant to be specific around that. I won't go bitching in the Streamate thread because that isn't the place for it.

brittany_bitch
10-20-2015, 09:55 PM
exactly! giving it a go tonight my rates are at 6.99 7.99 which has always been a good spot for me so we shall see i will report back!

anna111
10-21-2015, 01:55 AM
every day traffic zero now. intresting when it is will stop? when we get normal traffic and working?

QueenBitch
10-21-2015, 02:00 AM
damn where the fuck is everyone, part 20236. fuck it, I'm uploading clips and then I'm gonna study for a couple of hours and give it another try. not giving up god fucking damnit.

Blovely
10-21-2015, 02:52 AM
"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"

Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.

I hate these posts.

If you hate these types of posts why even read them or post in them?

Sure some models probably have only worked 2 hours but I highly doubt every single model that has been complaining about SM these last few months only work 2 hours a day. I don't understand the sentiment of "it's you" when tons of models and customers have been complaining about the site these last few months. I could understand blaming individuals if like 1-10 were complaining but there's at least 50+ models who've complained.

I also understand not wanting venting posts in threads like the main SM, Adultwork, Niteflirt etc threads but I don't understand why its seem to always be an issue to have threads like this one and camming sucks. Over the years I've read similar posts to yours and I'm just wondering why its such a problem for some to vent? I'm not trying to be catty I'm seriously wondering why some of you feel this way.

BadBitch
10-21-2015, 07:29 AM
thank you all for chiming in :) So it seems that on the front page there is some traffic but more glitching and on the 2nd and 3rd for me no traffic at all and also perfect feed no glitches lol so weird

I have a decrease in traffic, but no excl glitches. I sit in a fucking empty room sometimes. I'm almost top row first page. I don't get it.

Also, I didn't get my direct deposit. That's twice now this month. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING???!!!!

KatM
10-21-2015, 07:45 AM
Sometimes sites DO DIE, i witnessed at least a few of them going downhill & die in my 15 years being on cam so yeah, it can happen.
Of course that sites are not out of business completely, they still have high earners making money on there but they are just a handful, the majority left/moved to other sites, struggle or splitcam but these sites are not a good option anymore especially for the average cammer.

Is the same on SM, a handful of models are still doing good but the majority feel a decline, if u are fortunate & still do good at least dont jump on the ones complaining about SM while posting IN THE RIGHT THREAD.

I mean "YOU" in general, people who have the need to show us what great models they are & how they know to do business & know how to work more eggs & such.
Very good for you, i am happy if u succeed with ur cam business this way but some of us really have not that many options due to not being accepted on all sites because we live in certain parts of the world, cant do phone-sex or other related stuff also due to location or language barrier, not work some sites cause we dont find them lucrative for us or we are not okay with their payment methods, there are many reasons of why we cant juggle with soo many eggs in our baskets, is not that easy when u only have very little options/ sites to work on.
The "It's you" card is soo cliche-ish, seriously.

Smurfette
10-21-2015, 09:07 AM
"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"

Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.

I hate these posts.

I know where you're coming from and I agree with you for the most part. But at the same time, you're not really being fair. I get it -- YOU are doing well on cam. Congrats! But that doesn't invalidate the experiences of others. I've been there. There have been times I've been KILLING it on cam and then I come to SW to see that every other poster is complaining about lack of traffic, bemoaning the state of camming and talking about how it's all going down hill... it all comes across as unnecessarily negative, pointless whining. What are they complaining about, after all, camming is good for ME so if they're not doing well, it must be a problem with THEM. They're just not working hard enough, or they need to hustle differently, or try a different site, etc.

But then it happened to me. Do YOU honestly think that if your income plummeted 60% in a short amount of time for no discernible reason, if all of a sudden you found yourself sitting for hours every day staring at a completely empty room despite having a good connection, a good cam, the highest encoder settings, and decent placement, if most of your regulars disappeared and it feels like pulling teeth just to get a freakin 40 second private when, in the past, it used to be back-to-back? If all that happened to you, would you be able to just shrug your shoulders and "get over it" without worrying or needing to vent? Nah, you'd probably be pretty upset, and you'd be in here bitching along with the rest of us.

IllyriaStorm
10-21-2015, 09:58 AM
The argument should be irrelevant because this is the place for those kinds of posts. It's like walking into a hardware store and complaining that they don't sell rotisserie chickens.

Redcandy
10-21-2015, 10:00 AM
And sometimes you have to consider the source. Full time sm models treat this job as a business. I've taken notes on every hour and day I work since i started 5 years ago. I have all my notebooks to prove and see Sm is declining. Actually Sm feels more like when I first started camming and on page 2 and 3. Yea I still make good money but I am sitting in free longer and there is less paying traffic.. yea there is traffic but not paying traffic. Just luckers. And when you speak to them they leave. I went from $ 80 day shift and $100 night shift per hour down now to $60 per hour inthe last several weeks.. I don't do GS and yes I have other eggs but when a leader in the camming world declines models take notice. Especially full time models. The paying traffic isn't there anymore and models that don't include Gs income or don't do GS for the last 4 to 6 weeks are only in paid chat 40% or less. Actually I was told in the last several weeks, averages in paid chat was 25 to 29%. The numbers don't lie!

kortneykay
10-21-2015, 01:08 PM
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.

I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-21-2015, 02:02 PM
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.

I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.

I don't know her. But I do think that some of these anti-venting post are very trollish. And I want to add that many of the responses to that particular post were very kind and measured. People are just talking. This is a catharsis for many of us. I don't talk to many behind the scenes i keep it small and it's gonna get even smaller. But I suspect that many of the people who do post here are not miserable or struggling everyday. You post it and then you move on. Now I can post anywhere I would like to on Stripperweb but that does not mean I should. I'm mature enough to know that maybe I shouldn't say this to a bunch of people who may or may not be in despair. And I really hope that we can continue talking without this going into a downward spiral resulting into catty comments and a thread lock.

JessRyan
10-21-2015, 02:03 PM
maybe we need a thread about the posts we hate? LOL

Susperia
10-21-2015, 02:04 PM
Has it been deadsville for anyone else the past 2 days or is it just me....After having a few great weeks I guess its time for SM to shit on me.

JessRyan
10-21-2015, 02:06 PM
One day I hate SM the next I love it. I just try and find humor in everything. It gets me through the slow times when I want to pull my hair out.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
maybe we need a thread about the posts we hate? LOL

I think there's a thread somewhere that consist of the greatest trolls of all time? Im with you. Im a silly person and love to crack jokes. But I also root for the underdog.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
Has it been deadsville for anyone else the past 2 days or is it just me....After having a few great weeks I guess its time for SM to shit on me.

Tag you're it

JessRyan
10-21-2015, 02:58 PM
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..

christylive
10-21-2015, 03:12 PM
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..
at least it isn't the sdsdt756767 , shdsudh78787 , djfidjfwwwww00 , and 78rhsdhsdsjd names that took over recently... Now it's like the names you mentioned that never speak. bizarre.

TrifilinCamHo
10-21-2015, 03:55 PM
So many icky peepers today ewwwww

IllyriaStorm
10-21-2015, 05:10 PM
Yeah I had a streak of guys in a row just demanding I show my tits for free. And in exactly that way, too. "Show your tits for free." Ummmm, no?

BadBitch
10-21-2015, 05:50 PM
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..

I got A LOT of that today along with random letters in a name which I call right out.

fwyqzautsc has logged in.
"Hi fwyqzautsc!!!!"
fwyqzautsc has logged off.

justanothercamgirl
10-21-2015, 08:52 PM
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.

I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.

I love you kk, but I have to disagree with your logic. The title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" so logically this would not include venting about other people's venting. If it was then the thread would be called " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing Site Issues AND Your Issues About Girls Who Have Streamate Issues" ;)

justanothercamgirl
10-21-2015, 08:55 PM
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.

I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.

Um, venting is not about offering solutions. Venting is about....well, venting. Problem-solving is about offering solutions.

JaneBurgess
10-21-2015, 08:58 PM
It annoys me when you talk about camming on social media and SM performers always think you're talking about them. Damn there are other sites out there

audritwo
10-21-2015, 09:39 PM
I want to vent about SM support.

So I reported the user who promoted in my room. Here is the email exchange.


http://i.imgur.com/ZvaMdly.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6O6T6rV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DgiFv5v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fyJSgEC.jpg


So why can't they open an imgur link and save it?
http://cdn.chud.com/9/90/900x900px-LL-905e6529_mad-men-peggy-facedesk.gif

IvyAdams
10-21-2015, 10:00 PM
Omg Audri. That is so ridiculous. Just reading it made me want to rip my hair out.

Bootsie
10-21-2015, 10:05 PM
^^ I have had promoters for that same camgirl, have had the same issues with support. I just gave up, didn't try as hard as you because UGH.

Also how damn disorganized that they can't find someone by their name! Seriously, make guys pick unique screennames, it's not rocket science.

audritwo
10-21-2015, 10:33 PM
I refuse to let someone piggyback my traffic that I worked so hard to get.