View Full Version : STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
Bobo12345
05-21-2016, 03:50 AM
I never said she won anything in the contest neither I ,was talking about that placement!and I have nothing but respect for working ladies however that girl did not work in any of those 2 days and NO i do not believe that she could have more then 500$ whit 0 hours online!She is on the other hand working for sm favorite studio ....so do not accuse me of not being fair on hard working ladies !
None of those girls under that studio did not work on the part 2 of the contest because it was Easter for them and If you want there are ways to check that !my only problem is with sm throwing me shit because I'm not on their favorite list when it comes to Eu models !
^^^ SM's business decisions lately made me understand it's useless to try to understand them or expect them to play fair, they just a bunch of blind people there, they're eyes are open but they dont see actually, the ones who are in charge i mean.
cutiecam
05-21-2016, 05:49 AM
I never said she won anything in the contest neither I ,was talking about that placement!and I have nothing but respect for working ladies however that girl did not work in any of those 2 days and NO i do not believe that she could have more then 500$ whit 0 hours online!She is on the other hand working for sm favorite studio ....so do f the contest because it was Easter for them and If you want there are ways to check that !my only problem is with sm throwing me shit because I'm not on their favorite list when it comes to Eu models !
ok :) If you're sure she didn't work a single minute, I can understand that. It doesn't take long to receive a tip and sometimes "mycamgirl" doesn't record times and earnings accurately.
Thanks kat for chiming in! You see and catch a lot.
Ty, SM is like a cheating partner u know, i never blame the mistresses but the cheater.
We all work hard to make a living on cam on SM, SM should be the one as entity to play fair towards all their models, models are not guilty for taking advantage of the favoritism this site practice, i never ever blame models in general but always the site(s) for their shady practices & for encouraging models to change site culture, without site's contribution & allowance models wont be able to do certain things on site. xx
xCamLovex
05-21-2016, 07:29 AM
aftee the realstreamate Twitter stunt no one should be surprised by favoritism and people pulling strings at the top. I am not playing their games. I'm doing nothin their way yet breaking no rules and doing well these last few days.
I will not let their games get in my way. im finding new ways to promote and drive traffic to myself the last two weeks and its been working. No I do not need the affiliates who u allow to steal my shows to make themselves money. And guess what? I've cleared my goal second day in a row this week. How can the SEO monkies tell me that their program works when I want to remove my vid but once I remove it and opt out I have better customers? Because they don't know wtf they're doing and only out to swoop on new sign ups. Models know what we need in order to succeed...just do it! Let all these contests and shit make you laugh instead of frustrate you.
I'm so glad I don't have to pay for a developer to create a contest leaderboard that may or may not work. Phew!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-21-2016, 07:46 AM
aftee the realstreamate Twitter stunt no one should be surprised by favoritism and people pulling strings at the top. I am not playing their games. I'm doing nothin their way yet breaking no rules and doing well these last few days.
I will not let their games get in my way. im finding new ways to promote and drive traffic to myself the last two weeks and its been working. No I do not need the affiliates who u allow to steal my shows to make themselves money. And guess what? I've cleared my goal second day in a row this week. How can the SEO monkies tell me that their program works when I want to remove my vid but once I remove it and opt out I have better customers? Because they don't know wtf they're doing and only out to swoop on new sign ups. Models know what we need in order to succeed...just do it! Let all these contests and shit make you laugh instead of frustrate you.
I'm so glad I don't have to pay for a developer to create a contest leaderboard that may or may not work. Phew!
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IrishCamGirl
05-21-2016, 08:27 AM
I don't like the leaderboard. Worked my ass off -i'm not alluding to anyone else- on the May Day contest and still not in the top 500, it's a fuckin downer! I know i've only been at this like 6 months, and i'm still proud of myself for what i've achieved so far. I'm in a shitty mood lol
DancesWithSloths
05-21-2016, 09:53 AM
Eh, the ranking is meaningless if you're making goal. Ranking wars are for gold show tippers.
Edit: I'm pretty sure it's harder to rank high if you're splitting, and we know it's smart to spilt or otherwise multi-egg, soooo... *shrug*
heyho
05-21-2016, 10:30 AM
Uuuuurgh. Today is just not my day.
I've never been able to reply to member mail I get on SM, I just wrote it off as a glitch. Today I finally got sick of having to explain and apologise to my butthurt ignored custies, and emailed SMsupport to fix it. They replied: "Unfortunately due to continued violations of the terms and conditions from your area we have had to deactivate the messaging system for your account. The messaging system will not be reactivated. We apologize for any difficulty this has caused."
Sooo because I guess some models from my area violated some terms and conditions of sending fucking mail replies, I don't get to reply to my mail. How is that fair? Roar.
alex00
05-21-2016, 10:41 AM
why can i not have any one stay in my chatroom for over one second. I can't make any money if no one is able to stay in my room and this is regulars and not peepers. Does this happen to anyone else? is it my camera, internet or computer because I have great internet and sm support is no help!~~ ugh
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-21-2016, 10:57 AM
Uuuuurgh. Today is just not my day.
I've never been able to reply to member mail I get on SM, I just wrote it off as a glitch. Today I finally got sick of having to explain and apologise to my butthurt ignored custies, and emailed SMsupport to fix it. They replied: "Unfortunately due to continued violations of the terms and conditions from your area we have had to deactivate the messaging system for your account. The messaging system will not be reactivated. We apologize for any difficulty this has caused."
Sooo because I guess some models from my area violated some terms and conditions of sending fucking mail replies, I don't get to reply to my mail. How is that fair? Roar.
no thats not cool. Send a message to Liz directly. Maybe they can fix your account. Thats more fuckery that I didn't even know existed.
avalon_rose
05-21-2016, 11:02 AM
why can i not have any one stay in my chatroom for over one second. I can't make any money if no one is able to stay in my room and this is regulars and not peepers. Does this happen to anyone else? is it my camera, internet or computer because I have great internet and sm support is no help!~~ ugh
Tons of peeps pop in and out of my room, usually even before I get the chance to say Hi. Though I've learned there's a delay between my camera and what they see ... so I can say 'Hi' and it doesn't get to them for like another 10-30 seconds ... and that's apparently enough to say "Not interested!" and move the fuck on.
I've taken to pre-typing, or c/p a "Hello" and having it ready so the second I see someone pop in all I have to do is hit 'Enter' and say a verbal greeting as well ... so hopefully they see they're being acknowledged and they might stick around a few seconds longer to hear me actually greet them on cam.
Another thing I'm trying to be mindful of, is that if my room is empty, and suddenly someone pops in, they're going to see the camera feed from a few seconds before they got into the room (because of the delay) ... so if I'm sitting there scowling, THAT'S the first thing they see. Blegh! So I'm trying to be mindful and smile all the time. ALL. THE. DAMN. TIME. I feel like a Dentyne commercial, lmao.
Also I think sometimes they come in expecting you to be naked and, like, fucking yourself ... and you're not - or you're just not what they thought you'd be so they move on. Oh well. So long as a handful stick around at some point and $$$, no need to worry about 'the ones that got away'. ;)
Anyway, no idea if it works or will work ... but it can't hurt to try, ya? Good luck figuring out your mojo! :)
xCamLovex
05-21-2016, 11:07 AM
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girl you know we're on the same page. i got u!
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seicento
05-21-2016, 11:09 AM
Uuuuurgh. Today is just not my day.
I've never been able to reply to member mail I get on SM, I just wrote it off as a glitch. Today I finally got sick of having to explain and apologise to my butthurt ignored custies, and emailed SMsupport to fix it. They replied: "Unfortunately due to continued violations of the terms and conditions from your area we have had to deactivate the messaging system for your account. The messaging system will not be reactivated. We apologize for any difficulty this has caused."
Sooo because I guess some models from my area violated some terms and conditions of sending fucking mail replies, I don't get to reply to my mail. How is that fair? Roar.
Would be worse to be told that you can not have block sessions enabled because of your location. Discrimination all over the place.
Uuuuurgh. Today is just not my day.
I've never been able to reply to member mail I get on SM, I just wrote it off as a glitch. Today I finally got sick of having to explain and apologise to my butthurt ignored custies, and emailed SMsupport to fix it. They replied: "Unfortunately due to continued violations of the terms and conditions from your area we have had to deactivate the messaging system for your account. The messaging system will not be reactivated. We apologize for any difficulty this has caused."
Sooo because I guess some models from my area violated some terms and conditions of sending fucking mail replies, I don't get to reply to my mail. How is that fair? Roar.
Sorry for ur situation, is the 2nd time i read about this issue, here was another cam model on this forum located in Asia who also had her messaging feature taken away & she complained about it in here, this thing is similar to other situations models have on SM, they pay some of us just 30% (including myself), dont give some of us block sessions or break button (not my case fortunately as i have these two enabled).
We again understand how much it matters where u from on SM.
But this messaging situation is really affecting the relationship between models and the members messaging us, not being able to reply their messages is just going to hurt ur business more than u not being able to offer block sessions, have a break button or being paid less than the rest, these last things members are not aware of but not messaging them back? They get offended of course. Not good indeed. Just lame, SM should really consider their ways of doing things.
JaneBurgess
05-21-2016, 08:41 PM
What is up with traffic last week on there? It was way down, like no traffic. Im in the middle of page one and I was bored as fuck. Im going to try daytime starting Monday because nights seem to be dying off.
^^^ SM was brutal this week for me too, i could not believe how dead friday & saturday were, there was no traffic simply, not paying nor freeloaders, just empty room, after 2 hrs of this i just had to log off. Been on middle of page one myself and no business there for me.
I speculate they just waiting for the contest this weekend and they let us dry till then, i dont know, all i know is i personally am affected every time they come up with a contest, it was the same before May Day and the previous ones, i am tired of these contests, i know i sound like a broken record but i cant help myself from speaking out my concerns because this site is my main site now & i need it to work.
Cant wait for the new UK site to launch so i can add another egg here, all the other accounts on pvt based sites are too old and not popular anymore and i dont seem to have success on token sites so i really need a good pvt based site to make money on.
gorgeousbbw
05-22-2016, 12:55 AM
Just had a guy tell me the Give gold button is not working and it wont let him take me private either. WTF. how the fuck are we supposed to make money if they can't even take us private?
avalon_rose
05-22-2016, 12:58 AM
Just had a guy tell me the Give gold button is not working and it wont let him take me private either. WTF. how the fuck are we supposed to make money if they can't even take us private?
Did he try to get you to go to Skype or something else? I'd be wary he was lying and trying to get something for free.
Other than that, I've had a few guys complain about they couldn't hear on occasion ... all they had to do was log out and log back in. Maybe that will work/help? It seems the site's had a ton of glitches this week. Though looking at the entire MFC debacle it seems SM's not the only site that had super crappy issues this week. =\
gorgeousbbw
05-22-2016, 01:04 AM
No he didn't try to take me offline or anything, he was legit trying to go private and tip me but he could not. I have had a few guys complain that they cannot hear me once we go private also. This is so frustrating
ZafinaX
05-22-2016, 01:09 AM
What is up with traffic last week on there? It was way down, like no traffic. Im in the middle of page one and I was bored as fuck. Im going to try daytime starting Monday because nights seem to be dying off.
Girl yes, traffic is the fuck terrible. I'll tell you how daytime is going. It took me 6 hours to make $100 :( I actually was thinking of switching to night time
BustyVixen
05-22-2016, 07:27 AM
Daytime is no better. I used to work strictly afternoons and sometimes mornings and I really don't anymore. It's hit or miss any time of day/night.
veronica_f
05-22-2016, 01:32 PM
Okay, so it's not just me having major issues with traffic on Streamate... It's been painfully slow lately, especially this past week. The past few days, I've sat in my room for over an hour at a time with either zero traffic or members who are gone in 2 seconds. I've been trying to not get suspicious or start speculating. But I've made barely any money recently. If it weren't for 2 regulars, I would have made about $25 yesterday over 4 hours. The weekend should be the best time to make money - not this weekend for sure. I've gotten the tech issues all fixed, now it's this. It's just become so frustrating...
veronica_f
05-22-2016, 01:36 PM
Speaking of frustrating! I know clients can leave us a rating after spending time in private with us - I just wish there was a time frame on that. My ratings are always good, so I get annoyed when I get a 1 or 2 star rating and find out it's from someone who spend a whopping 55 seconds with me. LOL
MistressX
05-22-2016, 07:27 PM
yeah the traffic issue is ridiculous. and because its been harder to make money lately everyone has been on trying to make $. That compounds the issue, like a downward spiral.. and contests on top of that. what the fuck are they thinking?
illuminaughty
05-22-2016, 07:27 PM
So the past 3 weeks have seemed way slower than usual on streamate
It's been an enormous amount of people just popping in and out without saying hi, also there is less traffic in general, and the quality of my traffic is TERRIBLE!
Literally almost all of them seem to want a free show
Is anyone else experiencing this?
MistressX
05-22-2016, 07:29 PM
yup. thought it was just me. there is definitely something up
Melyssax
05-22-2016, 07:32 PM
Just gotta hustle harder & smarter... Camming can be like a rollercoaster w/ the ups & downs.
anonymous camgirl
05-22-2016, 07:37 PM
Well my last SM check was better than the last few months on there.. so I don't know?
So the past 3 weeks have seemed way slower than usual on streamate
It's been an enormous amount of people just popping in and out without saying hi, also there is less traffic in general, and the quality of my traffic is TERRIBLE!
Literally almost all of them seem to want a free show
Is anyone else experiencing this?
sovereignv
05-22-2016, 08:37 PM
Traffic on Streamate can be incredibly hit or miss, last night I made almost 400 bucks in 4 hours, tonight I've made like 20 in 2 hours. For me though, personally, and I'm far from a top model, I've seen an overall improvement over the past few months and I believe (knock on wood) that things will continue to improve so there's still definitely money to be made.
KittieVenom
05-22-2016, 09:42 PM
Not only is the traffic dead as fuck, but the people I get coming in are fucking disgusting assholes. Like where are they getting these people from? I can't believe how far SM has fallen, and looks like it has no sign of stopping. 12 hours and I made nothing. $0. I'm on a few other sites but I'm going to try to find more to sign up for. I can't take this anymore. Right now being on there is hurting me so much more than helping.
heyho
05-22-2016, 09:50 PM
^Kittie, that's rough, I'm so sorry.
All the custies suddenly being made of ass + empty Pokemon wallets is so true though.
SM's super smart marketing strategy of advertising to free-porn wankers on tube sites is finally paying off! /sarcasm
EllieGold
05-23-2016, 02:43 AM
I will join this bandwagon. Thought it was just me.
DeepThoughts
05-23-2016, 03:07 AM
I see this being written about more and more but I have not seen a decline in the traffic. It can feel like that when its super slow and if Im not putting in the hours but when I actually look over my numbers (and I track everything) I actually see an increase in profit. I think we just get into patterns and forget what old patterns were like.
Like I said I often take more time off and then cover a shit ton of hours before the close of the week on Saturday so it can sometimes feel like Im sitting there for hours and seeing almost no one but in actual fact I am just putting in more hours that day so I am witnessing more of the slow hours as well as the busy hours. When I was first started camming I was more consistent day to day so I might only see one or two slow hours out of 5 or 8. Perhaps this is happening to more people then just me?
pmsingsquirrel
05-23-2016, 03:13 AM
Tonight was completely dead for me. I was about to log off and a random person gave me a 1 $ tip LOL
Talk about an off night.
xxtinamariexx
05-23-2016, 07:08 AM
Did he try to get you to go to Skype or something else? I'd be wary he was lying and trying to get something for free.
Other than that, I've had a few guys complain about they couldn't hear on occasion ... all they had to do was log out and log back in. Maybe that will work/help? It seems the site's had a ton of glitches this week. Though looking at the entire MFC debacle it seems SM's not the only site that had super crappy issues this week. =\
Sometimes, they can not see the button either, so they have to refresh and then its there. I have had guys say the same thing, that it wont let them take me private, sometimes if they refresh they are able to.
LadyCoco
05-23-2016, 09:36 AM
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x1000. I can't stand this. It's been happening too often to where I can't work a shift. It's NOT my gaming machine, it's NOT my internet. It's their stupid crappy website. }:D
That's been happening to me today too. I knew it wasn't me!
MistressX
05-23-2016, 12:21 PM
I'm hoping you guys are right but I just get a ton of ins and outs, no one says anything, i ask if its a tech issue and when someone finally replies they say i'm all good. Having a hard time eve making $30 an hour on there right now and that is just not acceptable for me :(
JustCallMeBree
05-23-2016, 12:57 PM
The weekend is usually my best days but I made $32 in 8 hours compared to today when I made $111 in 3 hours. Which isn't anywhere near my normal but after such a sucky weekend I'll take it. I think it's just been very hit or miss. I've been getting the best shows when I'm just sitting in chat talking not even hustling.
xCamLovex
05-23-2016, 01:08 PM
I'm hoping you guys are right but I just get a ton of ins and outs, no one says anything, i ask if its a tech issue and when someone finally replies they say i'm all good. Having a hard time eve making $30 an hour on there right now and that is just not acceptable for me :(
Yes about this. I've heard you speak of your placement and I think we're on the same row - my average was about $30 an hr last week. i made more bartending 6 yrs ago so at this point of my life I cannot settle for masturbating on live broadcast for less. SM is hot or miss but it's mainly misses right now. I'm so turned off by the blatant disrespect affiliate marketers and what they've done to my videos despite the geoblock i have on my account that I'll likely be done with SM all together by the summer.
SM continues to give all power to te negTive aspects of this industry and its becoming obvious. Models hate the SM culture, customers don't care about the site, and the contests attract the bottomfeeders.
xCamLovex
05-23-2016, 01:28 PM
^Kittie, that's rough, I'm so sorry.
All the custies suddenly being made of ass + empty Pokemon wallets is so true though.
SM's super smart marketing strategy of advertising to free-porn wankers on tube sites is finally paying off! /sarcasm
SM doesn't do a god damn thing. They act like blind mice and let their sleezebag affiliates run rampant and reward them for bringing shit people to our community. Then when shit gets crazy SM support disables messaging suspends models and plays dumB like they don't know how things got so out of hand.
yes if you know me you will see I have it out for the SM marketing structure right now. I think it's BULLSHIT how strict they are on models regarding our conduct - what we can and cannot say how we market ourselves where and how but AFFILIATES can steal our shit post it On tubesite and use OUR IMAGE in the third party affiliates likeness. SM barely has any knowledge of what that might be nor do they care. So that tells me they don't even care about their own image.
ironic because they're so controlling of our image on the site yet they have no problem with their affiliates marketing us however these random Joe Schmoe's want.
JaneBurgess
05-23-2016, 02:22 PM
Girl yes, traffic is the fuck terrible. I'll tell you how daytime is going. It took me 6 hours to make $100 :( I actually was thinking of switching to night time
Nights really arent much better either. I did nights for years and now its full of cheap guys and people wanting incest. Its so gross and fucked up
JaneBurgess
05-23-2016, 02:23 PM
Not only is the traffic dead as fuck, but the people I get coming in are fucking disgusting assholes. Like where are they getting these people from? I can't believe how far SM has fallen, and looks like it has no sign of stopping. 12 hours and I made nothing. $0. I'm on a few other sites but I'm going to try to find more to sign up for. I can't take this anymore. Right now being on there is hurting me so much more than helping.
Agreed. I keep getting incest and underage freaks. I tell them I dont do those shows and that its also against the site rules. Then they get all pissed off and act like assholes.
JaneBurgess
05-23-2016, 05:58 PM
Traffic is way down if you look up the stats. Each year since they started Gold shows its declined in big numbers. The good customers hate the beggars and assclowns in gold shows and the cheap guys wait for super low rates or $0 Gold shows. Add all of that in with the glitches and I can see why customers leave.
comstar
05-24-2016, 11:01 AM
I made a terrible mistake and installed the v14 SMbroadcaster....since my internet is shit I have to rebalibrate daily but the new encoder goes through ALL the resolutions it will not let me pick the one I want and try to calibrate. It is such a huge waste of time I can not imagine the brain that thought up the idea of going though EVERY god damned resolution possible. It takes 45min just to re-calibrate.
Does anybody else have this problem? Is there a way around it? Thanks for any info!
JustCallMeBree
05-24-2016, 12:20 PM
I use the Adobe encoder still even thought it fucks up my placement. Even if I do have to work harder to get noticed at least I can get/finish my shows no issues.
Tigrillo
05-24-2016, 01:49 PM
I see a new version has come up and it'll undoubtedly come in handy for some: I'm still working with version 12 of the SM broadcaster, no relevant issues. More recent versions hogged up too much of my cpu, self-calibrated at an unnecessarily high resolution so I pixelated horribly on stream, so I have stuck with version 12 and am happy 4EVAH. I still have the setup exe if anyone would like it (I sent it to some gals after the last upgrade and it helped them as well), just pm me and I'll send you a link to my gmail drive. ;)
MissAdriana
05-24-2016, 02:41 PM
Traffic is way down if you look up the stats. Each year since they started Gold shows its declined in big numbers. The good customers hate the beggars and assclowns in gold shows and the cheap guys wait for super low rates or $0 Gold shows. Add all of that in with the glitches and I can see why customers leave.
This so much. Numbers don't lie. There are more models on there than ever and I'm sure that will continue to increase just like the contests and cattiness. Gold shows completely changed the site. Attracting cheap customers who only want a deal, and some who wouldn't otherwise spend but only window shop. But then some models starting adding extras and incentives for high tips and now the customers are entitled and expect 250 videos for $1. I can't see it being much worse than that. But ever since last August with Streamgate the site hasn't been the same, and not in a good way. I was making less and less money on there, that's ultimately why I left
BustyVixen
05-24-2016, 08:06 PM
I don't usually look at other models but I was bored for a few and went into a room and saw a $0 gold show but if you tipped $5 you got 100 videos. Seriously? Giving 100 vids when your cut is under $2? I guess to each their own but come on. Miss the early days of gold shows when nobody charged under a dollar per minute and it was pretty easy to clear lofty goals on the regular. But things are different and we have to adapt.
^^^ Adapt how, copy what they do? No way i am doing that, i'll adapt by leaving the site eventually.