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MistressX
06-07-2016, 09:19 PM
i had a second one i tried to send that had more info. pm snoviaterror if you wana ask about the room :)

Glamourmilf
06-08-2016, 08:35 AM
i had a second one i tried to send that had more info. pm snoviaterror if you wana ask about the room :)

Oh shit..I just cleaned out old messages. Can you please resend? Thanks

imelly21
06-08-2016, 10:17 AM
horrible traffic !

imelly21
06-08-2016, 10:21 AM
this is worse traffic than when I started on Live jasmin a loong time ago!

KatM
06-08-2016, 10:27 AM
horrible traffic !

WTF i cant believe how dead SM is for me lately, wont post numbers in here but holy crap, cant work with this non existent traffic, i am in panic mode already, this is my only site now, tried ifriends last eve and my CPU went up to 85% which i find to be too much considering that site is dead too, i just dont know what combination of sites to try anymore, old sites dont work after i took long breaks on them and no new sites available yet, i dont know anymore.
SM was making me decent money over the years but for a month or so now i find it extremely dead. I see it's not just me, at least i know it's not my fault but God, what gives?!

xCamLovex
06-08-2016, 11:08 AM
WTF i cant believe how dead SM is for me lately, wont post numbers in here but holy crap, cant work with this non existent traffic, i am in panic mode already, this is my only site now, tried ifriends last eve and my CPU went up to 85% which i find to be too much considering that site is dead too, i just dont know what combination of sites to try anymore, old sites dont work after i took long breaks on them and no new sites available yet, i dont know anymore.
SM was making me decent money over the years but for a month or so now i find it extremely dead. I see it's not just me, at least i know it's not my fault but God, what gives?!

I don't know if this has anything to do with it ladies but for the past week when I'm on mobile, no one's room loads. it says everyone is "performing live" so it makes me leave and go to the next room. What is this is what all customers are seeing as well? Now, I'm not knocking everyone being in a show...but pages of models all in shows at the same time? Wouldn't everyone be jumping for joy in that case? Something is up.

ophellia
06-08-2016, 12:11 PM
Agreed! This has been the quietest day I have had in weeks. Not even the usual million "ins and outs" I usually get. I can't see myself on SM because of geoblocking, but I can find myself on an affiliate site, and it keeps going from free chat to "this performer is currently performing..." and I'm sitting there like.... ????

Also, my actual stream is lacking today, usually it's up there, but today I am stuck between 15 and 20 fps.

C'est la vie! At least I made my goal. Tomorrow will be better, I'm sure.

imelly21
06-08-2016, 12:21 PM
SM was making me decent money over the years but for a month or so now i find it extremely dead.
it is dead.
If I would tell someone how much I made in 2012 and how much I made in 2016 so far, they would think Im stupid!
The difference is outrageous.
I have a few screen shots of my free chat since back then. there were 10-15 guests logs in the guest chat ( lower section ) at all times!
Now its 1 1 or 2 in there
I think SM does not advertise like they were in the past...
they are doing something wrong business wise.

imelly21
06-08-2016, 12:27 PM
where u at I can't see anything
no image

Someone just said this in my free chat
AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He just said hes mobile.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-08-2016, 01:51 PM
I wish SM would say that temporarily all models could use the browser encoder without penalty. Placement would solely depend on money earned and conversion rates. Because I did that last week and did pretty well. Only guys who had me in their favorites did shows however. Only familiar faces showed up. Right now these high tech requirements are too much for most viewers. Mostly mobile customers and tablets. Just change the algorithm back to an earlier time. Most guys don't care about seeing the pores in your nipple. They just wanna know they can stay connected before they spend money. And we just wanna take their money from them.

emma383
06-08-2016, 01:56 PM
I wish SM would say that temporarily all models could use the browser encoder without penalty. Placement would solely depend on money earned and conversion rates. Because I did that last week and did pretty well. Only guys who had me in their favorites did shows however. Only familiar faces showed up. Right now these high tech requirements are too much for most viewers. Mostly mobile customers and tablets. Just change the algorithm back to an earlier time. Most guys don't care about seeing the pores in your nipple. They just wanna know they can stay connected before they spend money. And we just wanna take their money from them.


I agrees..CB does fine with nothing fancy at all.

KatM
06-08-2016, 02:04 PM
^^^ Yes, in my case the placement difference between hd720 -> 1st page middle to bottom rows and NO encoder -> page 5-6 is crazy, i dont wanna work on page 5-6 cause i fucking earned my actual placement by working this site consistently for 6 years now w.o a major break.
THAT IS EARNED and it's not only about tech. equipment but everything else.
But what use to be on page one if no business anymore? I can try to lower settings yes, see if it helps, i rather make money but it does not feel good to be on page 5-6 after working ur ass off for years to earn page one :(

imelly21
06-08-2016, 02:05 PM
I wish SM would say that temporarily all models could use the browser encoder without penalty. Placement would solely depend on money earned and conversion rates. Because I did that last week and did pretty well. Only guys who had me in their favorites did shows however. Only familiar faces showed up. Right now these high tech requirements are too much for most viewers. Mostly mobile customers and tablets. Just change the algorithm back to an earlier time. Most guys don't care about seeing the pores in your nipple. They just wanna know they can stay connected before they spend money. And we just wanna take their money from them.

great idea!
I agree!
I wish SM would listen! why would they not listen to us? I dont get it, are their management skills that bad? jeez

Genoveve
06-08-2016, 04:12 PM
Just change the algorithm back to an earlier time. Most guys don't care about seeing the pores in your nipple.

LOL so true.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-08-2016, 05:07 PM
^^^ Yes, in my case the placement difference between hd720 -> 1st page middle to bottom rows and NO encoder -> page 5-6 is crazy, i dont wanna work on page 5-6 cause i fucking earned my actual placement by working this site consistently for 6 years now w.o a major break.
THAT IS EARNED and it's not only about tech. equipment but everything else.
But what use to be on page one if no business anymore? I can try to lower settings yes, see if it helps, i rather make money but it does not feel good to be on page 5-6 after working ur ass off for years to earn page one :(

I think it may be a bit of a gamble to try this....but if you arent hitting your goals whats there to lose? I only did it two days. One day I wasn't even showing in my categories but I had guys in my room. I have no idea what page I was on. I gave up checking. The second day I was in the categories but waaay at the bottom like I was in a show. I must say I had quite a few come in then. They thought I was in private and ....... ;) I just moved so i havent been able to put in any time in a few days. But I think i finished off the week with a low percentage. I truly believe that it would have been in the single digits if I hadn't said fuck it Im using the HD Wide browser version. I ended the week at 15%. I know not fancy. I worked short hours and I also splitcam. I was able to use four sites at once with my system when I did that. Those encoders take up too much cpu without giving a return thats worth it. Also both times Ive done this I noticed that old names that I haven't seen in awhile popped into my room. Give it a try. I say do it the first time with SM only and hardwired in, proper lighting etc to see how it works for you. If you're new you may not want to try this.

SuperPookie
06-08-2016, 05:35 PM
That encoder is bullshit. Back when the first version came out I tried it even though I don't have the internet speeds to support it( 0.60) . At the time I didn't have geoblock so I checked and I went from the bottom of page 5-6 I forget now to the middle of page 1. I couldn't stream at all because even blinking caused me to pixelate so badly you couldn't even tell I was a person but I was on the front page. It has nothing to do with how hard you work and that's crap. On that note I've been 8 hours and made $20. Thank goodness that Skype pulled through for me.

xoprincessremy
06-08-2016, 06:13 PM
Am I the only one who gets pre-anxiety about coming online to SM?

I used to love getting ready, doing my makeup, listening to songs about getting money, getting in that "fuck you pay me" mentality, and I would feel so confident that I'd log off with at a minimum X amount after a 6 hour shift. Now I have to work like 15 hours to make the same amount....


I build up anxiety the entire day knowing I have to force myself to get online around a certain time. SM has just been sucking so much lately.

MistressX
06-08-2016, 08:12 PM
what the hell is with guys just sitting popping in and out or camping and not talking AT ALL?! I noticed this on naked.com too. I had to start going back there because I'm making so little on sm now. interesting because they both use the same fmle program to broadcast. and both sets of guys were saying they couldnt hear/see me at times. I too am considering going back to hd wide. Im going to experiment with it on friday i think.

AlyssaJane
06-09-2016, 12:27 AM
I think sometimes there might be a glitch where somebody shows up in your room but isn't really there, because when I try to kick them it doesn't work. I have the same thing happen on cams where you see their screen name but they don't talk forever and when you try to kick it doesn't work. That or it's a glitch with the kick function.

Glamourmilf
06-09-2016, 08:35 AM
Hitting the break button twice doesn't get the guy into exclusive anymore. Well it does, he just can't see you.:(
They're on to us..just kidding..I hope.:-\

KatM
06-09-2016, 09:24 AM
I think it may be a bit of a gamble to try this....but if you arent hitting your goals whats there to lose? I only did it two days. One day I wasn't even showing in my categories but I had guys in my room. I have no idea what page I was on. I gave up checking. The second day I was in the categories but waaay at the bottom like I was in a show. I must say I had quite a few come in then. They thought I was in private and ....... ;) I just moved so i havent been able to put in any time in a few days. But I think i finished off the week with a low percentage. I truly believe that it would have been in the single digits if I hadn't said fuck it Im using the HD Wide browser version. I ended the week at 15%. I know not fancy. I worked short hours and I also splitcam. I was able to use four sites at once with my system when I did that. Those encoders take up too much cpu without giving a return thats worth it. Also both times Ive done this I noticed that old names that I haven't seen in awhile popped into my room. Give it a try. I say do it the first time with SM only and hardwired in, proper lighting etc to see how it works for you. If you're new you may not want to try this.

I tried this, i really did but after sitting on page four with nobody in my room for almost 10 mins i gave up and signed off, i got back on with the SMBroadcaster - HD720 settings, sitting there on page four made me feel... inferior sad lol, i just cant 'swallow' that considering only SM is making me money for now and i can stream in true hd, if i had other good sites yes, that could have been a solution for me.
Feeling defeated for the moment on SM but i'll regroup eventually, glad it worked for you also cause u managed to split 4 sites, i just dont have the patience and will to run sites that are very slow or dead, for me a site has to work good and fast, to make me consistent money otherwise i dont keep going with it. ty for input xx

JessRyan
06-09-2016, 10:03 AM
I think sometimes there might be a glitch where somebody shows up in your room but isn't really there, because when I try to kick them it doesn't work. I have the same thing happen on cams where you see their screen name but they don't talk forever and when you try to kick it doesn't work. That or it's a glitch with the kick function.

Yeah, I've had some names get stuck for a long time, like they are there but I can't kick them. Or some times it will show double names. LOL just a glitch. Try to kick them and see what happens. I did go through a period where I just banned guys who sat there longer than an hour without a word, or kept popping in and out without a word. Then for my new year's resolution I slowly un-banned THOSE guys (not the peepers or really bad guys) but I only banned them half way so they stayed in the dog house. I put a little note on them, so I always knew them when they'd come back with a note and no #.
I'm telling you, I'm glad I did that. Almost ALL of them ended up spending money on me, taking me private and redeeming themselves. I think some of them forgot I had banned them too. hahaha I did wait awhile to un-ban and let them back into my chat room because I was hoping if I waited long enough they would forget I banned them. They forget.
Then after they spent $$ on me I let them completely out of the dog house.
Now I don't ban the guys who just sit there, because once again a long time quiet sitter took me on a very long private. He said I was always friendly and nice, so he sat there until he had the money. Quiet is good now in my book.
And peeping? Well I had a guy peeping over and over in a private the other day, I banned him but it only banned him from messages (you know?) so I didn't want to disrupt my room by going thru the trouble of completely nailing his ass. It was one of those privates where I had more than one guy in there for awhile. So the 3rd or 4th time he peeped, while I was plunging away, I got close to the cam, took off my glasses and very clearly said "(member name) Stop peeping, stop coming in and out to my private, I have banned you and this is the last time you will ever see me."
LOL He begged me not to ban him and he would stay and it was his internet....he stayed 3 min rated me 5 stars, but is still half way in the dog house because I run a tight ship. ;-)
** what helps I think is making eye contact. What I mean is, look right in to the cam like you are really talking to the guy. I have a favorite model on Chaturbate (PM me if you want to know who she is) I watch and she does this throughout her whole show. She smiles and looks right in to the cam when she's telling ME something. I know she's looking right at me. She is! LOL
It has a great effect and speaks volumes. There's a guy at the other end. If he feels like you are talking to HIM, he feels special and in my case above, called out.

JoyKitten
06-09-2016, 10:50 AM
Yeah, I've had some names get stuck for a long time, like they are there but I can't kick them. Or some times it will show double names. LOL just a glitch. Try to kick them and see what happens. I did go through a period where I just banned guys who sat there longer than an hour without a word, or kept popping in and out without a word. Then for my new year's resolution I slowly un-banned THOSE guys (not the peepers or really bad guys) but I only banned them half way so they stayed in the dog house. I put a little note on them, so I always knew them when they'd come back with a note and no #.
I'm telling you, I'm glad I did that. Almost ALL of them ended up spending money on me, taking me private and redeeming themselves. I think some of them forgot I had banned them too. hahaha I did wait awhile to un-ban and let them back into my chat room because I was hoping if I waited long enough they would forget I banned them. They forget.
Then after they spent $$ on me I let them completely out of the dog house.
Now I don't ban the guys who just sit there, because once again a long time quiet sitter took me on a very long private. He said I was always friendly and nice, so he sat there until he had the money. Quiet is good now in my book.
And peeping? Well I had a guy peeping over and over in a private the other day, I banned him but it only banned him from messages (you know?) so I didn't want to disrupt my room by going thru the trouble of completely nailing his ass. It was one of those privates where I had more than one guy in there for awhile. So the 3rd or 4th time he peeped, while I was plunging away, I got close to the cam, took off my glasses and very clearly said "(member name) Stop peeping, stop coming in and out to my private, I have banned you and this is the last time you will ever see me."
LOL He begged me not to ban him and he would stay and it was his internet....he stayed 3 min rated me 5 stars, but is still half way in the dog house because I run a tight ship. ;-)
** what helps I think is making eye contact. What I mean is, look right in to the cam like you are really talking to the guy. I have a favorite model on Chaturbate (PM me if you want to know who she is) I watch and she does this throughout her whole show. She smiles and looks right in to the cam when she's telling ME something. I know she's looking right at me. She is! LOL
It has a great effect and speaks volumes. There's a guy at the other end. If he feels like you are talking to HIM, he feels special and in my case above, called out.

Jess, I agree 100%.

In sales they say most people require 3 looks before they buy. Guys with hard-ons needing satisfying & having money in their account, may not wait 3x to go private, but if they're not that horny right now, or low on cash, they may be watching & waiting, remembering you. Or better still, favoriting you*.

I only ban guys if they are disruptive. I don't even ban them if they're trolls trying to get a rise out of me. So far, ignoring them works for me.

And staring at the cam, talking to them directly. Yes indeedie! It really connects us to the viewer. Powerful stuff.

* Asking guys to 'favorite' us using the little heart button is sooooo important! When they do, we will appear on the top lines of their home page. No matter how far you sink on the site, whether you haven't cammed for a while so your placement dropped, or your earnings/ratios have plummeted, the guys who have favorited you will always know when your on. You're right there in their face on the home page, rather than the bottom of page 4 where all the other guys see you. Being 'favorited' can have a huge impact on how busy you are when you're on cam.

AlyssaJane
06-09-2016, 12:45 PM
I totally agree - I am super slow to ban. I fuck with trolls as much as they fuck with me, although I did bite the bullet and finally ban a couple of long time regulars (one big spender one small spender) who absolutely exhaust me. Words cannot express my renewed energy at knowing I never have to deal with these 2 again. As much as I get that this job is about converting sales, I think I need to remind myself it is my business after all. 15 years of call center work trained me to put up with way more than a person should from customers, and it's so refreshing to have the power to say "nope, not today Satan".

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About the eye contact - I love it. I noticed when I make absolutely sure I end every show possible with eye contact - mostly putting my face close to the cam, looking right at them - those guys always comeback and become repeat customers. Makes them feel special. Love it.

Tigrillo
06-09-2016, 03:00 PM
Oh my god, what is going on this week /whineeeeeee

MistressX
06-09-2016, 03:02 PM
why are there russian and columbian girls on the front page? cant even find myself. I have zero traffic

KatM
06-09-2016, 03:19 PM
why are there russian and columbian girls on the front page? cant even find myself. I have zero traffic

No kidding, last nite i looked for myself to see when i'll get back on my normal placement spot after i tried to cam w.o the encoder and even after i went back on page one i really could not find myself in the list, most times i was not there simply, i freaked out cause i could not find myself anymore, i refreshed the pages constantly then i gave up checking anymore; if the guys dont see me either i can see why no traffic in my room. guess SM hates me for bitching too much about them sad lol. eh, what can i say, i want fairness on SM, nothing else.

MistressX
06-09-2016, 03:46 PM
wtf is even going on this is stupud

imelly21
06-09-2016, 04:17 PM
yep. I was dancing today in free chat for... no one!
I was like " omg, in case someone shows up I want them to see me moving! It was hilarious.

blueJewel
06-09-2016, 04:23 PM
Question, dear ladies!!

Is SM known for "lost" paychecks in the mail?

I received one paycheck in the mail on a Monday (no delay on my account). Then the next check never arrived...I kept asking them about it, and finally 2 whole weeks later they claimed it was returned to them in the mail after I asked one last time to look into my account. Liz says it's been re-sent as of last Thursday....it's still not here.

Kind of holding my breath waiting to see if last week's pay will come in on time next week.. ::) It's enough for me to switch sites, because I refuse to pay any fees just to get my money.


Anyone else have paycheck issues?


(I'm on a quite old account btw...not my original...been many years and can't remember the original email to reset my pw on my even older acct.)

imelly21
06-09-2016, 04:24 PM
1 only had 1 lost check. a long time ago. it was reissued and everything was fine.
give it a few more days to arrive. I hope it comes soon:)

blueJewel
06-09-2016, 04:27 PM
1 only had 1 lost check. a long time ago. it was reissued and everything was fine.
give it a few more days to arrive. I hope it comes soon:)
Ok, great to know. Thank you so much :D

xCamLovex
06-09-2016, 04:43 PM
wtf is even going on this is stupud

I've had one show since being online. Literally had to sign off after not a single talker in over 30 minutes. Ridiculous. Not even a hello. Are these even real people and real accounts at this point? They come and go so damn fast I can't even say hi:O

MistressX
06-09-2016, 04:48 PM
Its not you camlove. I have been experiencing this all week. Its the worst its ever been today. It sucks because i have rent to pay and other bills and i cant even get any indy shows

KatyBoleyn
06-09-2016, 04:52 PM
I think the issues today have to do with almost 1800 models being online at the same time (50-80% more than normal). Their tech infrastructure can't quite keep up, and at the same time the custie base is spread so thin I don't think they have much choice except to bounce around like kids in a candy shop.

misspxxxx
06-09-2016, 05:07 PM
I think it may be a bit of a gamble to try this....but if you arent hitting your goals whats there to lose? I only did it two days. One day I wasn't even showing in my categories but I had guys in my room. I have no idea what page I was on. I gave up checking. The second day I was in the categories but waaay at the bottom like I was in a show. I must say I had quite a few come in then. They thought I was in private and ....... ;) I just moved so i havent been able to put in any time in a few days. But I think i finished off the week with a low percentage. I truly believe that it would have been in the single digits if I hadn't said fuck it Im using the HD Wide browser version. I ended the week at 15%...

Thank you for this advice!

i have only been getting in/out traffic and short shows for months then today I tried the old settings on FMLE and bam, talking traffic, 65% in paid, long shows and no exclusive limbo glitch. Worked for me!

I only have about 2000 favorites but enough to make one day count...I use geoblock so don't know what my usual placement is.

Even if this only works for a few days revisiting old fav list customers it's worth it to boost moral and break up the grind of no-talking/minutemen/creepy freeloaders!

blueJewel
06-09-2016, 05:16 PM
How do you get listed in specific categories? (SM newbie question - I ran a search but couldn't find the answer)

KatM
06-09-2016, 05:53 PM
Yes can try old settings with fmle, at this point i will try anything available.

BiscuitT
06-09-2016, 06:03 PM
(duplicated)

BiscuitT
06-09-2016, 06:04 PM
So maybe Iīm not the only one having this issue? Iīve been off for a while (again) and back this week I was doing ok, if not great. But today even regular freeloaders just pop in and out so fast I canīt even wave to them. Also Iīm in page 3! I wonīt expect to be in front page with my settings or time online but my paid time doesnīt sucks so bad to be in page 3. I was listed on page 2 on tuesday...itīs even possible to jump there so fast? Itīs exhausting and demoralazing being there for like nobody.

heyho
06-09-2016, 06:35 PM
@blueJewel: When you first made your account there would have been questions about your attributes, such as body type, hair colour, race, state of pubic hair. This automatically filters you into the categories (although I have no idea what qualifies one for the "babes" category)

@BiscuitT: SM has always been pretty screwy with placement, and they aren't super transparent about what determines it. Somedays I jump around places too with no particular changes to my equipment, speeds or %paid. It depends a lot on the other models online. and whether they're in shows. I just stopped caring, worrying isn't going to change my placement, but grinding through the slow hours and building a fanbase will.

BiscuitT
06-09-2016, 07:02 PM
Thank you! I always wonder if I stay on in the slowest times and my paid in time tends to -10%, will that hurt my placement for worse? I donīt mind to be there bored to death, I really donīt and I donīt mind to work hard, but it worries me the fact it actually would be worst than just log off and hope to have luck the next time I get online.

MistressX
06-09-2016, 07:43 PM
OK. I experimented with the legacy file because i had nothing to lose.

Instantly I had tons more traffic. People actually stuck around and TALKED. And to top it all off, I saw people I hadnt seen in forever. One took me exclusive for a LONG time and told me hadnt seen me online for MANY months. Oh is that so? Cause ive been working steady that whole time. I had 2 privates before my internet crapped out (this is my problem with my isp ive had since october) and made $100 between the two. No joke.

There is definitely something to this. I am sticking with the legacy file. My placement wasnt that bad either, 4th row. I dont know why, maye the guys internet or computer cards cand handle it? And streamate wants to up their HD even MORE? Hell to the no.

Tigrillo
06-09-2016, 09:07 PM
mmm I'd like to try this, but the FMLE was a source of huge grief and stress for me... I used to suffer from this glitch where it was a cosstoin if I'd connect or not each and every time.... it was a huge source of anxiety for me and ever since the sm broadcaster came out I've been able to enjoy a smooth connection and extend my shifts, because before that I would be out before two hours always, because of all the stress of reconnecting and restarting computer, etc., uninstalling and installing again, it just wore me out.

so.... still this whole week has blown and dang something's gotta change! don't know what's screwing me!

Sally Says
06-10-2016, 02:17 AM
i really like the sm broadcaster but im concerned that maybe my settings are too high and not everyone can access it. this combined with being in the uk so going on at the quiet times.....

im currently streaming at 1280 x 720 'very high' what settings should i try instead? ive had a play but havnt noticed a vast change

blueJewel
06-10-2016, 10:45 AM
My re-issued paycheck still hasn't arrived. :confused::mad:

xCamLovex
06-10-2016, 01:28 PM
My re-issued paycheck still hasn't arrived. :confused::mad:
More and more models seem to be having an issue with their checks. Be sure to consider wire transfer - yeah it's $40 but a reissue is $25 and you still have to wait for it. Even possibly risking it getting lost again and paying another $25.

Melyssax
06-10-2016, 01:33 PM
why are there russian and columbian girls on the front page? cant even find myself. I have zero traffic

Having the exact same problem... umm wtf

SM_CamGirl
06-10-2016, 02:33 PM
today im only having in and outs, 2 hours and nobody talk, all time zero guest users, but i see that free users write but i dont see them, i mean they can write but the list is zero y dont see the user name!

Tigrillo
06-10-2016, 05:08 PM
^^^^ that happened to me yesterday, both in the free chat and paid chat! No names on the right side, but messages coming in From nowhere! It was scary to say the least! Like hearing a ghost's voice!