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JaneBurgess
06-14-2016, 07:44 PM
Having major issues with FMLE. It disconnects everytime I come back from a show? The lag is tremendous, all customers complaining about it and mentioning their optimum computer settings. When I view my own cam it lags too. Any suggestions? Also having the worst FPS adjustments. Just not a good time on FMLE today. Is there an update I missed perhaps?

I use the Adobe Encoder and never have an issue. Give that a try and see if it helps.

MistressX
06-14-2016, 08:18 PM
I was under the impression the adobe encoder and the FMLE were the same thing?

Blovely
06-14-2016, 08:43 PM
I was under the impression the adobe encoder and the FMLE were the same thing?

It is. FMLE = Flash Media Live Encoder.

JaneBurgess
06-14-2016, 09:47 PM
I was under the impression the adobe encoder and the FMLE were the same thing?

A lot of people think SM's broadcaster is Encoder. Just wanted to make sure everyone knows there is a difference between the two. I dont ever have issues with Encoder but their broadcaster gives me issues.

avalon_rose
06-14-2016, 10:00 PM
Also, regarding $400 gold shows from circa 2011 ... I see references to 'big money' having been earned, once upon a time, on the PSO boards, too. It seems like even though the economy started turning to shit 2008/2009, people I guess didn't start to truly, "Oh shit" until a few years later - and sex work wages declined ... or became harder to get. I'm honestly a bit sick of hearing about the Golden Ages when customers spent a shit ton in one go, came back for more, and workers/models made a bajillion dollars in a day. I'm not working in 2011. I'm working in 2016. Today's my day, and I'm going to try to make it count. If not with SM, then I'm going to try something/somewhere else.

There are women all over these boards who are massively successful. Katy was in here not too long ago and did her awesome "I have science to back shit up" thing, talking about traffic numbers and percentages. If it's not SM glitches and contests, it'd be payouts too low somewhere else, or guys are being cheap, or it's the slow season, or fuck, it's the busy season again but school's starting up and a whole new wave of college girls are signing up, or it's the holidays, or a million other things.

We got this. Just gotta tweak every once in a while. We be aight. ;)

Mare
06-15-2016, 04:37 AM
then had 1-star peepers for another hour, where I made a few bucks but annoyingly had to contact tech support multiple times to get undeserved ratings removed.

Yeah. What's up with this lately???

JessRyan
06-15-2016, 06:46 AM
Also, regarding $400 gold shows from circa 2011 ... I see references to 'big money' having been earned, once upon a time, on the PSO boards, too. It seems like even though the economy started turning to shit 2008/2009, people I guess didn't start to truly, "Oh shit" until a few years later - and sex work wages declined ... or became harder to get. I'm honestly a bit sick of hearing about the Golden Ages when customers spent a shit ton in one go, came back for more, and workers/models made a bajillion dollars in a day. I'm not working in 2011. I'm working in 2016. Today's my day, and I'm going to try to make it count. If not with SM, then I'm going to try something/somewhere else.

There are women all over these boards who are massively successful. Katy was in here not too long ago and did her awesome "I have science to back shit up" thing, talking about traffic numbers and percentages. If it's not SM glitches and contests, it'd be payouts too low somewhere else, or guys are being cheap, or it's the slow season, or fuck, it's the busy season again but school's starting up and a whole new wave of college girls are signing up, or it's the holidays, or a million other things.

We got this. Just gotta tweak every once in a while. We be aight. ;)

Stripping was that way too. Things were always "better" back then. As for stripping it was because there were not so many clubs in the Atlanta area at the time (stone age) when I first started. ;-) Then by the time I'd left there had to be over 50 clubs in the ATL area. Tons of clubs, tons of girls.
TODAY can be better though. With camming for me, it's better when I have fun, enjoy myself (hey I'm getting paid to play with myself in the comfort of my own room) my feet don't hurt from wearing heels all day like they did from stripping, I don't smell like cigarette smoke when I log offline, and I've been on SM long enough that I have some really fun regular guys I can always depend on. Camming is the most comfortable job I have ever had. Dr Laura said once that women (not so much men) some times focus on what they don't have, what they could have rather than appreciate what they DO have. That can change how you look to men. Today is better

JessRyan
06-15-2016, 06:55 AM
A lot of people think SM's broadcaster is Encoder. Just wanted to make sure everyone knows there is a difference between the two. I dont ever have issues with Encoder but their broadcaster gives me issues.

I never tried the broadcaster. In fact I never changed from the encoder of July/ August when they sent the last of the widescreen 720 settings. I'm not sure exactly..I'm so ignorant when it comes to tech stuff, All I know is that the updated settings from last summer worked for me, guys always mention how good my stream looks, it's hard to teach this old dog new tricks, (turning tricks and learning tricks is a different thing) so I ain't changing a DAMN thing. ;-)

hyori
06-15-2016, 10:14 AM
^^ I don't use the Broadcaster either because you can't split with it at all unless you have two cameras or computers and who needs the extra work.

KatM
06-15-2016, 10:15 AM
The reason some of us veteran performers talk about how it was in the past is to make sites aware they need to think long term and see things in perspective, we know that every major decision they made in the past is affecting the present, every major decision they make now will affect the future.
Sites seem not capable to think further on than the present and this is a huge mistake that makes them fall sooner or later, they want the money now and fast so they implement all kind of features that are not good for long term business, we the performers know what does good and what not when it comes to the guys spending money on us but sites staff seem to not be aware of these things.

Example with SM: if they made the gold show rule for models to charge at least $1/min in a show (so $5 for 5 min performance for example) girls would not have charged this low now a days (including zero gs's), if they did not allow content to be offered on site now we would not have the offerings galore now a days, if they would not have started with the contests now -> predict the future ladies, i say this will ruin site even more & i talk about the 'regular cammer' future on SM not about the top performers cause they'll always make the money but what about us, the rest?!

Every major decision will change the future, we talk about the past so they realize what can happen in the future if their decisions are bad ones. Will they listen? Looks like not unfortunately, they never listen cause they not the ones sitting in front of the camera trying to make money, there is always a gap between the site owners/ directors and us the performers.

hyori
06-15-2016, 10:25 AM
I don't get $0 gold shows, why would you do that for a 30%-35% cut when you could do that on a token site that pays at least 50%. Then again, I guess if you are a top row model on SM it could work out better than being a lower placed model on a token site but only for awhile I would think. I rarely cam on SM now because I feel kind of sick to my stomach when I do shows and see my earnings and think about how much more I could have made on a token site. SM has got to stop with the low payout and I will say that until they do. Token sites are the majority now and there is a reason for that.

Melyssax
06-15-2016, 10:59 AM
It will get better just hold on ladies, let's just hope these next few months breeze on by, I know I am, until the meantime keep hustling it out.... suck up EVERYTHING you can, every drop like a vacuum cleaner.... that's what I do. I say between the ending of August - beginning of September it should be picking back up & when the good times start rolling back in SAVEEEE, that way you won't be so stressed when the slow times start crawling back in... you & your family will be straight

avalon_rose
06-15-2016, 11:00 AM
I don't get $0 gold shows, why would you do that for a 30%-35% cut when you could do that on a token site that pays at least 50%. Then again, I guess if you are a top row model on SM it could work out better than being a lower placed model on a token site but only for awhile I would think. I rarely cam on SM now because I feel kind of sick to my stomach when I do shows and see my earnings and think about how much more I could have made on a token site. SM has got to stop with the low payout and I will say that until they do. Token sites are the majority now and there is a reason for that.

I've really enjoyed the 'culture' of SM in that I like the one-on-one of being in privates more so than attempting to entertain a (hopefully full) room of people who may or may not throw tokens my way. My first couple of times on MFC were awful. I know it takes some getting used to. I logged on the other night with no expectation of earning $$$ and just to be a weirdo and have fun, and I was pleased I got to go have fun and then ended up bringing in some cash, too. I wish SM's payout was higher, though, that's for sure. That's one of the main reasons why I'm working so hard on accumulating other eggs and working on my site so I have a 'home base' for all things cam related to me - whether it's SM (or another private-based site that maybe works better? Haha!), or tokens or Skype and other indie avenues. I don't think I'll ever make bank off of a token site, but that's just me. I'm glad other girls find them wildly successful. I just don't think I'm one of them. =\

JaneBurgess
06-15-2016, 11:05 AM
I never tried the broadcaster. In fact I never changed from the encoder of July/ August when they sent the last of the widescreen 720 settings. I'm not sure exactly..I'm so ignorant when it comes to tech stuff, All I know is that the updated settings from last summer worked for me, guys always mention how good my stream looks, it's hard to teach this old dog new tricks, (turning tricks and learning tricks is a different thing) so I ain't changing a DAMN thing. ;-)

They claim in time if you dont use the broadcaster you wont have top placement. As of now it has a lot of issues since its still in beta. It always disconnected me or froze up. Im not trying again until its out of beta testing.

Sam38g
06-15-2016, 11:09 AM
I don't give a FUCK what other girls charge or don't charge, don't give a fuck what they will or won't do in them either.

Cause it has NEVER affected my money... my energy, my hustle. my sales ability, my outfit does though. I will start out & do $6 for 6 minutes for a show that is shaking tits & ass, about 10 to 15 guys will buy in. If I decided to do another GS later on then it will be $8 for 6 minutes & the exact same show only this time 13 to 17 guys will buy in. If by chance I am camming 4 hours or more that day & privates & exclusives die out I will do a 3rd GS & charge $10 for 6 minutes for the exact same show only now 15 to 20 guys will buy in, plus some will have paid in $20 cause they love me. Those guys who spend $20 buying into last GS, might have paid in for all the GS shows I did that day.

Rarely do I cancel a show, cause I know most wait till it started to join in. My shows only get more expensive as the day moves on to teach those who didn't buy in when it was cheaper a lesson. That I won't get desperate to make money & keep lowering the price in hopes of making at least something.

What a guy does or doesn't spend on another girl really depends upon her hustle. I know, cause some of the guys who signed up through my cam model link will only spend some money on me while splurging on other girls. Which just makes me happy, cause love getting that 20%.

Some of my custies have been with me 12 years from site to site they found me, some 6 years since I started on SM that ALWAYS buying to my GS shows & often get private shows to do c2c with me.

I don't live in the past, money made back then don't pay the bills now. I live for today. Of course, everyday is a crap shoot. Majority I have a blast on cam & hopefully so do my customers. If you are miserable, unhappy, upset making money on cam or even logging on will be a chore.

I do more marketing when it gets slow for me & then it rocks for me. But as most of you know that is how I've been laying down that ground work for years, ever since myspace days to get sales to my solo site. It is apart of my work ethic.

Can tell you what didn't work for me in the past bitching & complaining all the time. At some point you have to be the person to make the changes that leads to more money or a different happier life. We all have to let off steam, but some people it seems to be a full time job. Been avoiding SW more & more due to all the negativity brings my mood down.

Sam

JaneBurgess
06-15-2016, 11:10 AM
I don't get $0 gold shows, why would you do that for a 30%-35% cut when you could do that on a token site that pays at least 50%. Then again, I guess if you are a top row model on SM it could work out better than being a lower placed model on a token site but only for awhile I would think. I rarely cam on SM now because I feel kind of sick to my stomach when I do shows and see my earnings and think about how much more I could have made on a token site. SM has got to stop with the low payout and I will say that until they do. Token sites are the majority now and there is a reason for that.


I see MFC performers saying the site has been down multiple times recently and that people arent tipping. Thats from top performers on the site as well. So token sites also have a lot of freeloaders too. Yes you get 50 percent but if you do shows in free chat, you are also doing shows for people who havent paid but still get to watch. That doesnt appeal to everyone.

hyori
06-15-2016, 11:14 AM
I see MFC performers saying the site has been down multiple times recently and that people arent tipping. Thats from top performers on the site as well. So token sites also have a lot of freeloaders too. Yes you get 50 percent but if you do shows in free chat, you are also doing shows for people who havent paid but still get to watch. That doesnt appeal to everyone.

With CB, you can use the crazyticket app which lets you weed out the freeloaders with a password. You can also do password shows. On MFC, you can organize a fast goal towards a group show.

Also with Charlesbot you can now play some games on MFC like TokenKeno. I haven't used it myself, and it is known to be buggy, but it is another option for those who want more options on MFC.

Although MFC and CB don't have the generous SM cammodel link percentage, you can still generate passive income with their programs. MFC has the BAF link program, (set up through a member account and create link to your room), and CB has their link programs that are very accessible right through your broadcaster interface.

Yes, MFC has been having some glitches but they are not daily like SM.

hyori
06-15-2016, 11:20 AM
I'm really not putting down SM because SM does have private pay per minute which can be better for those who prefer a more low key cam style, (you can run a token site this way as well, it's just not as popular or expected), I'm just questioning why they keep their payout so low. I also question those who do $0 gold shows since the hustle is exactly the same as a token site. You are letting freeloaders watch your gold show.

Blovely
06-15-2016, 11:35 AM
Can tell you what didn't work for me in the past bitching & complaining all the time. At some point you have to be the person to make the changes that leads to more money or a different happier life. We all have to let off steam, but some people it seems to be a full time job. Been avoiding SW more & more due to all the negativity brings my mood down.

Sam

Agree with the bold but at the same time that is what this thread is for.... to bitch and complain. If people are tired of others bitching, complaining and being "negative" then its best not to go into threads that are dedicated to that, no?

avalon_rose
06-15-2016, 11:39 AM
Agree with the bold but at the same time that is what this thread is for.... to bitch and complain. If people are tired of others bitching, complaining and being "negative" then its best not to go into threads that are dedicated to that, no?

I hear you, you're right. It's the SM complaining thread.

Melyssax
06-15-2016, 01:25 PM
I also notice some guys who are always on the hunt for gold shows... one guy just kept begging about every time I was online to the point where I had to ban him. I just find it odd & being cheap... if you really want to see something just tip... unless your waiting on the possibility that I wont make my goal = you get a refund + freebies ... see that's where I got to stop it lol

BiscuitT
06-15-2016, 05:07 PM
HI! I wonder if I could get a little help here, I canīt figure this out and I tried everything. I use FMLE to stream and I last time I went online it seemed fine, I could use the recommended settings but I canīt even go with the minumum today, my bitrate keeps dropping to 350ish. Tried SMbroadcaster but it was worse, keeps falling once and again. So my question is, might be the site acting funny, could be my cam acting funny, could be bad internet today?...there is something I can do?

JaneBurgess
06-15-2016, 06:44 PM
With CB, you can use the crazyticket app which lets you weed out the freeloaders with a password. You can also do password shows. On MFC, you can organize a fast goal towards a group show.

Also with Charlesbot you can now play some games on MFC like TokenKeno. I haven't used it myself, and it is known to be buggy, but it is another option for those who want more options on MFC.

Although MFC and CB don't have the generous SM cammodel link percentage, you can still generate passive income with their programs. MFC has the BAF link program, (set up through a member account and create link to your room), and CB has their link programs that are very accessible right through your broadcaster interface.

Yes, MFC has been having some glitches but they are not daily like SM.


I dont have an issue with tokens sites. I just know its not everyone's hustle so that's why they like sites like SM where you just do private and exclusive shows. As for $0 gold shows, I never understood that either. Yes you might hit your goal but anyone can watch the show, even guys that didnt pay. I never understood why they didnt make gold shows at least a buck a minute when they started them. Someone mentioned SM was once paying performers 30 percent when they started and then they went up five more percent. At this point they should raise the payout to 45 or 50 percent since Gold shows are very much like token sites. Plus they allow the selling of video's, picture sets and custom items. If they want to be like a token site they should pay the rates of a token site.

FayeValentine
06-15-2016, 06:52 PM
Wait, is a $0 gold show exactly what it sounds like?? How does that benefit the model?

avalon_rose
06-15-2016, 07:13 PM
Wait, is a $0 gold show exactly what it sounds like?? How does that benefit the model?

I'm curious about this, too. I don't see the incentive for the model at all?

BiscuitT
06-15-2016, 08:04 PM
I donīt do 0 goldshows but I can see the point and for some girls it works out pretty well. Free attract the masses, when people stop by and see itīs crowded they think "oh something cool must be going on here" and itīs more likely to actively stay and buy videos or photos or whatever is on sale. Also there is a goal, and people who are "not-cheap" enough to chip in usually put more than 1G so they look "not-cheap", especially when there are incentives like pics sets or stuff like that.

avalon_rose
06-15-2016, 08:07 PM
I donīt do 0 goldshows but I can see the point and for some girls it works out pretty well. Free attract the masses, when people stop by and see itīs crowded they think "oh something cool must be going on here" and itīs more likely to actively stay and buy videos or photos or whatever is on sale. Also there is a goal, and people who are "not-cheap" enough to chip in usually put more than 1G so they look "not-cheap", especially when there are incentives like pics sets or stuff like that.

Ahhh, so it's more of a marketing thing instead of a sale thing?

Prussia
06-15-2016, 09:02 PM
Wait, is a $0 gold show exactly what it sounds like?? How does that benefit the model?

It's a GS with a $0 buy in. So you still have a goal. But normally there are like 10% paying members in a $0 GS, and 90% freeloading lurkers. I have done maybe 10 ever. I use to offer one once in a blue moon back in the day if I had a wicked awesome night (like if I ran 10+ successful regular buy in shows as a "freebie" to the guys that actually should be earning it). But it would always backfire on me. Because the guys who do drop crazy money generally end up paying for the show to happen and they are the ones that I'm trying to reward so to speak, and then for weeks afterwards all you see in your chatroom is "$0 GS bb? It will make you sooo much money! Let me tell you how... etc" from all the guys who lurk/leach off $0 and only fav girls to roomhop those who offer them. Such a pain in the ass. So, anyway, in conclusion to my post, needless to say I don't offer them anymore. But to each their own!

Prussia
06-15-2016, 09:13 PM
So this is the second SM contest I've actively tried to participate in. I am normally somewhere in the first top 4 rows on a normal day. But I noticed tonight when the contest started that I'm at the bottom of page 1/top of page 2. And so were other girls that are normally on the top row with me. Is there something going on with placement for this contest I'm not understanding? I am confused. I've also pulled in 200 dollars (my cut) in 2h 15min, and my streaming stats are amazing. WTF? Is it always wonky like this during the SM contests? I feel like I should be putting my tinfoil hat on or something... Makes me think why I don't want to participate in these contests in the first place. I feel myself in this funky mood and it's throwing me off. Anyway I am determined to place in the top 20 even if it means I am going to pull an all nighter if I have to... just very frustrating. How do the regular participants in the SM do this?! Grrr. /rant

heyho
06-16-2016, 02:55 AM
^during contests all the TOP TOP girls who usually cam just a few hours a day start piling in and camathon-ing to compete for prize money since they all feel they have a good chance of winning. Since so many top girls are online at the same time, that bumps the rest of us down.

You're still killing it earnings-wise, though! Don't let it get you down!

KatM
06-16-2016, 03:04 AM
^^^ Yes i landed on page two row 4 when i got online, now i am page one a bit lower than middle of page, i normally am middle page one or a bit lower. Yes they cam a lot during contests, good for them they can manage it.

Semyonovna
06-17-2016, 04:29 AM
Hi ladies, I can't see any room on SM, when I try to go in I get this message saying "we were unable to authenticate your request" and it kicks me out, also I can't see my profile on SM, when I click on that button I get some sex ads. I contacted support and explained what my problem is but I got the stupidest response ''Thank you for writing,
Sorry, but you will need to be more specific if you are attempting to report an issue to us. Please be clear and detailed with what issue you are experiencing with your service? Where are you are experiencing issue? Do you get an error message? What does the error message say?'' . Anybody knows why I can't access site? My geo blocking is off. Should I msg support again?

KatM
06-17-2016, 04:39 AM
^^^ You cant enter rooms cause u in Eastern Europe, they block access into cam rooms because u from the region.
You can use proxy server or VPN tho to enter chatrooms including ur own room.

Semyonovna
06-17-2016, 04:49 AM
^^^ You cant enter rooms cause u in Eastern Europe, they block access into cam rooms because u from the region.
You can use proxy server or VPN tho to enter chatrooms including ur own room.

Thank you, you solved my SM mystery

Rena83
06-17-2016, 05:12 AM
I logged in for about 3 hours and made 14.00. This is ridiculous. Lots of free loaders and just pop in/pop out guys. I did get one person to go Pvt just to give me a rating and one who apparently used their iPhone.

Most were saying they was at work still. I'm thinking wow, you are a great employee watching porn at work. As if they are going to spend any money on me at work. I'll never log in during working hours again that's for sure. I also have no clue how SM is placing women. If I look for women in my country I'm on page 1. But the actual site I can't find me on up to page 6 at least. I don't remember being pushed that far down ever in the past. Used to I was bottom of page one or middle even when I first started on SM in 2011 or so. I'm new from a three year hiatus but still there's no reason with my quality cam stats on the site that I can't be placed higher.

I also have seen top models pushed down to page 2. Wtf? If they are going to do this I'll just turn off geo and ask to be removed from promotions then and take my little check and do only non nude fetish and humiliation for 6 hours a week and say eff Streamate. I broke out the bitch and I'm keeping it out. I got more fans when I started berating the free loaders and throwing humiliation at them. Guess I'll do the old trick of humiliating the beggars to advertise my humiliatrix skills. Smh.

As for gold shows I don't have them yet and I don't want them. I had them back in 2013 and never used them. I see what people try to do with zero dollar gold shows but my goodness. We're not beans on sale. We are humans. This is a luxury service. Can't afford it, wank alone in your bathroom then. People now do zero dollar God shows because somebody else did and it set the bar low for the customers. They want something now for free. Make them pay. They will pay. They will always pay out the ass for their kicks if you make them. But it takes every person making them. I can't even see the point in selling a 400.00 DVD's pack to a person for tipping a dollar. Even if I ran a video store and it was not adult material.... No. And this is adult. There's a premium price to pay for adult entertainment. Feel like I'm trying to sell a Louis Vuitton bag at a yard sale on Streamate after seeing the site now and reading comments.

Mare
06-17-2016, 06:27 AM
Most were saying they was at work still. I'm thinking wow, you are a great employee watching porn at work. As if they are going to spend any money on me at work.

They want something now for free. Make them pay. They will pay. They will always pay out the ass for their kicks if you make them. But it takes every person making them. I can't even see the point in selling a 400.00 DVD's pack to a person for tipping a dollar. Even if I ran a video store and it was not adult material.... No. And this is adult. There's a premium price to pay for adult entertainment. Feel like I'm trying to sell a Louis Vuitton bag at a yard sale on Streamate after seeing the site now and reading comments.

Preach it!!! You can't sell shit that's FREE. I always say guys will and should pay for porn. If you're doing it for free then you're fucking the industry as a whole. Look at dvd sales of porn now that pornhub ect are out. Look at sales of porn mags. The difference is we interact with the customer.
The percentage of guys that will freeload and feel bad and eventually tip someone is probably 1% or less. But until sites stop worrying about stats and worry about cracking down on models doing free then they're sinking their own ship and mine too.

Rena83
06-17-2016, 06:49 AM
Preach it!!! You can't sell shit that's FREE. I always say guys will and should pay for porn. If you're doing it for free then you're fucking the industry as a whole. Look at dvd sales of porn now that pornhub ect are out. Look at sales of porn mags. The difference is we interact with the customer.
The percentage of guys that will freeload and feel bad and eventually tip someone is probably 1% or less. But until sites stop worrying about stats and worry about cracking down on models doing free then they're sinking their own ship and mine too.
I just put on geo restrictions. Eff it. Looks like the payers are on there with a card already loaded anyway. I'm not converting sales and I'm tired of time wasters. This just means less time wasters popping in and out.

hyori
06-17-2016, 07:42 AM
Teach your perverts the following common sense rule:

Wanting and getting everything for free leads to models quitting because they make no money which leads to zero cam sites.

Keep the sexbiosphere alive.

foxmulder
06-17-2016, 07:57 AM
is it me, streamate, or is anyone else having a hard time making money? just looked at several popular girls rooms and they were glitching here and there. my confidential phone service isn't working and I lost money because of it (and its not my phone).....starting to get really worried here!

Rena83
06-17-2016, 08:20 AM
is it me, streamate, or is anyone else having a hard time making money? just looked at several popular girls rooms and they were glitching here and there. my confidential phone service isn't working and I lost money because of it (and its not my phone).....starting to get really worried here!

Judging by my past experiences on there and with what one seeing when I log in as well as seeing top models on there hustle and make horrible gold goals and then this site yes, I think SM is dead right now.

imelly21
06-17-2016, 08:40 AM
how does this make sense..
I am above a certain model in the homepage listing.(watching as a guest)
I log on as a member and she is above me.

heyho
06-17-2016, 08:45 AM
how does this make sense..
As a guest I am above a certain model in the homepage listing.
I log on as a member and she is above me.

ayyye mate this happens to me too! don't know what's up with that, sm's screwy placement fuckery as usual. as a guest I see maybe 100-130 online girls in my category of which my rank is second-row. as a member there are suddenly 200 online girls in my category and i'm fifth-row with some girls I was ahead of as a guest, now ahead of me.

i no longer worry my pretty lil head about placement. muy complicado. as long as i got money rollin in i'm good.

imelly21
06-17-2016, 08:51 AM
ayyye mate this happens to me too! don't know what's up with that, sm's screwy placement fuckery as usual. as a guest I see maybe 100-130 online girls in my category of which my rank is second-row. as a member there are suddenly 200 online girls in my category and i'm fifth-row with some girls I was ahead of as a guest, now ahead of me.

i no longer worry my pretty lil head about placement. muy complicado. as long as i got money rollin in i'm good.

I get it, the geoblock models are not showing as a guest.
but I dont get why the placement does not remain somewhat the same.

DancesWithSloths
06-17-2016, 08:59 AM
Earlier today I stayed logged in for a few minutes, then the connection dropped, and I couldn't even re-connect again after that.

Over the course of the last month or so SM has gone from my main site, to a splitting site to run in the background while I'm making goal on AW. In this capacity, it was not spectacular, but OK for a splitting site, topping up my goal here and there.

If it carries on like this past week, I'm dropping it even further down the list. Not sure what to add instead, dithering between IMLive and Cams.

Rena83
06-17-2016, 09:08 AM
I said today I'll give SM another week and a half. If I don't see improvements every time I log in I'll be a PSO only chick. I can make as much as a PSO haha! Literally. And in less time.

Kitcatt
06-17-2016, 10:33 AM
So this is the second SM contest I've actively tried to participate in. I am normally somewhere in the first top 4 rows on a normal day. But I noticed tonight when the contest started that I'm at the bottom of page 1/top of page 2. And so were other girls that are normally on the top row with me. Is there something going on with placement for this contest I'm not understanding? I am confused. I've also pulled in 200 dollars (my cut) in 2h 15min, and my streaming stats are amazing. WTF? Is it always wonky like this during the SM contests? I feel like I should be putting my tinfoil hat on or something... Makes me think why I don't want to participate in these contests in the first place. I feel myself in this funky mood and it's throwing me off. Anyway I am determined to place in the top 20 even if it means I am going to pull an all nighter if I have to... just very frustrating. How do the regular participants in the SM do this?! Grrr. /rant

I had the same thing mid afternoon, actually. All of a sudden I was behind model listings I'm normally in front of and ended up smack dab in the center of page 1, though an hour before I was line 2/3. Very weird. I know other models who have had the same issues during the contests. One of which is ALWAYS top line who ended up on page 2. Oh well, I guess its good to have people who favorited you during those times...

Sam38g
06-17-2016, 10:45 AM
I make money on there. :)

RedHott
06-17-2016, 02:57 PM
Hey girls! Long time lurker here :)
I was wondering if anybody has downloaded the newest version of the SM broadcaster? Last time I updated it did NOT work for me & I was out of luck until they updated again... I'm dreading updating it lol

xoprincessremy
06-17-2016, 06:03 PM
ANOTHER pop-up contest?!?!?!?!?!?

xCamLovex
06-17-2016, 06:38 PM
Two in one week is just excessive... also, if it starts at midnight GMT on June 20th, that's the evening/night of Fathers Day for US timezones. Wonder if that'll make traffic worse.
Question about contests...

How do the custies know about the contests if models don't tell them about it? Is there like a notification for viewers to incentivize tipping? Other than drive models into the ground...are the customers well informed to load up their credits and help too?