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12-29-2015, 12:33 PM
The model I'm talking about didn't really bring many followers with her. Most of the people in her room that I've seen have been site regulars well before she came on board. As far as her instagram/ tumblr following... I honestly have no knowledge of what kind of a following she has. I know she doesn't have a twitter. What I can say, is that she cams consistently during good hours, and she's young, cute and tiny, and she happens to be an ab/dl, which is our most popular category on the site. Will that work for everyone? No. Of course not. But a blanket implied statement of "I didn't make money therefore no one will make money" is a little unfair as well. My statement was merely that some people ARE making decent money on the site, even new models. I'm sorry if you didn't make a lot of money on the site when you tried it out. I'm always available to offer help and suggestions. Now keep in mind here that I don't want to tell you how to run your show, nor am I saying that "I know more than you." However, I track the analytics on the entire site and have a broader perspective to see what statistically tends to work for our paying members on the site and what doesn't.

I actually made a decent amount of money when I cammed on there (~$50 an hour or more each time) because I brought my own traffic, but I still think some of your business tactics are a bit underhanded, that's all. I would say that the reason the same members spent money on her is because they spend money and are fans of the other few popular tiny ABDL girls who stream on there as well. But again, none of that traffic is just because, it's because those girls brought it in.

It kind of seems like you have an excuse for every point people bring up. I get it, it's your site, but maybe really listen to what everyone is saying if you really do want constructive criticism.

space_cowgirl
12-29-2015, 03:07 PM
People can "get to know me" in private chat.

thegooddoctor
12-30-2015, 07:29 AM
People can "get to know me" in private chat.

You're certainly entitled to have that policy, but if you do "private or nothing" MFL might not be the best fit for you. While we don't allow pubic cum shows and things of that nature, there is a lot of socialization and "mini shows" for tips (ie. spanks, flashes, etc) that goes on in public chat between the models and members. That's just how the culture is shaping up, and that's what our members expect. If you don't talk to members outside of private, then you're probably not going to get a ton of them on my site.

MFL is a bit different than other cam sites, and you really can't think of it in terms of most other sites. We don't have tons of traffic, but the traffic we do have is very high quality. Rather than have a bunch of guests waste your time, yeah, you'll sit in an empty room a lot during off hours. But when members do come in, if you're halfway decent at camming and are personable and talk to them, it doesn't take long for them to start tipping.

And that's really just how it is on my site. I'm working on increasing the traffic. I'm going to Internext and the adult webcam conference next month and will see what kind of deals I can shake out of the tree with the heavy hitters in the ad sales and traffic industries. If it's worth it, I'll do it. If not, I still kind of like the organic approach we've adopted thus far. Social media is a huge qualifier of traffic, which is why our conversion rate to paying member is about 1/4 instead of 1/100 on a good day. But I'll never spend 6 figures per month on buying crap traffic to load up my server resources. I just don't see a point in that business model because I'd have to cut the payouts to the models to afford something like that, and for the type of content we produce... I just don't see a return on it happening.

sexysusie
12-30-2015, 12:46 PM
Spanks and flashes for tips? A) that's not fetish, and b) that's EXACTLY like every other tip site out there, there's nothing unique about you at all.

audritwo
12-30-2015, 06:10 PM
This is the way I see it. If you aren't willing to invest in traffic, why should we invest our time with your site?

thegooddoctor
12-31-2015, 04:24 AM
Spanks and flashes for tips? A) that's not fetish, and b) that's EXACTLY like every other tip site out there, there's nothing unique about you at all.

Since when was spanking not a fetish? It's probably one of the most common fetishes out there. Don't tell me you're still all butt hurt because I wouldn't let you work on my site after our exchange before. You had to have seen that one coming.

Interesting update for all on that were here for the beginning of the thread and my little argument with Susie before. So I told the guy from DP that I wasn't interested in having him take over all of my payments just so I could offer payoneer through him (which was what he had pitched to me originally and I was skeptical about). He said that was fine, but asked me if it was still ok if he created a regular studio account because a couple of his models had asked him specifically about my site. I said sure, that was acceptable, but I didn't want SexySusie on my site, because we have some personal differences and I didn't feel that she would be a good fit. He never created a studio account. Take from that what you will...


This is the way I see it. If you aren't willing to invest in traffic, why should we invest our time with your site?

I'm certainly willing to invest in traffic. I'm not willing to throw my money away. There's a big difference between those two things. I'll break the issue down for you. There are a couple of hurdles that I have to deal with here. Firstly, there's the catch 22 that all new sites have. New sites need models to be online in order to get more traffic. However, a site needs traffic in order to keep the models online. It's a tough situation.

Taking that a step further, there's also the issue of the quality of traffic and it's impact on a site. This can manifest itself in a few ways. There are a few levels of traffic in terms of quality. There's fully qualified traffic, qualified traffic, and nonqualified traffic. I'm sure there are other sub levels of these, but for the intents and purposes of this, we'll keep it simple with just the 3. Social media is probably the best kind of traffic that can get driven to a site. It's fully qualified, in that a user has to opt in to follow a model's twitter, for example. He then has to opt in again to read her posts. He opts in again to click on her link, and opts in a 4th time to create an account and/ or add money to it. That's a lot of "yes's" that a user has to say in order to get from point A to point B, so you know that the person wants to be there. Therefore, there's a high likelihood of them being a paying member once they hit the site. Qualified traffic comes from ads placed on websites, pop ups, pop unders, etc. This is a lot cheaper in both time and resources than getting the same number of people from twitter to come to a site. So you've got people who are opting in once to get to a site. This, however, has a pretty low conversion rate- about 1% if you're lucky, and that's 1% of the people who click on the link, not the total number of people who see the ad. So stuff like that brings a lot of guests, most of which are never going to become paying members in the first place. Then there's nonqualified traffic, which is the cheapest of them all, where you're just buying blind links and redirects. People think they're going one place, but another site sends them somewhere else entirely. So you've got a whole bunch of slightly pissed off people now on the site, and you better hope that your content is a hell of a lot more interesting than where they actually want to go, because if its not they'll just leave.

Then there's another dimension to this of where this traffic is coming from. There are 3 tiers to this- Tier 1 are your developed English speaking countries- US, Canada, UK, Australia, South Africa. Tier 2 is developed, European countries- Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands, etc. Tier 3 is everyone else. People from Tier 1 countries usually have credit cards and can pay for content. Tier 2 has a slightly less likelihood of having a card and there's also the issue of language barriers. Tier 3 are poor, and largely undeveloped countries. They have a low likelihood of conversion and high rates of fraud. Most people in tier 3 countries don't have credit cards, and if they do, theres a higher probably that the cards are stolen. Tier 1 costs the most, tier 3 is the cheapest, for obvious reasons.

With fully qualified traffic you won't get a of of hits, but the hits you get will be solid. With the other methods, you're pretty much blindly throwing a whole bunch of darts at a dartboard, and hoping to hit a bulls eye a few times, such that it pays for itself. Now keep in mind that yes, ads are generally considered "cheap," but a CPC (cost per click) campaign can get very expensive very quickly, if you have a lot of bad traffic clicking through your ad. That also means that it's eating up server resources- bandwidth, CPU processing, channels on the media server, etc. And on top of that, this goes back to the question of are there going to be models online to help hold the traffic there.

So it's really not an issue of me being unwilling to invest in traffic. It's that I don't want to spend money on traffic if there aren't going to be models online then, nor do I want to waste my model's time by sending them a whole bunch of crap traffic. As of right now the growth we are experiencing is slow, but it is still growth. I'm being patient until I have more models camming regularly and I can find good quality sources of traffic that won't waste my models' time.

I'm not sure what else I can do otherwise. I hope to find some answers at internext and the adult webcam conference. If you have a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.

Luna66
12-31-2015, 08:37 AM
So I told the guy from DP that I wasn't interested in having him take over all of my payments just so I could offer payoneer through him (which was what he had pitched to me originally and I was skeptical about). He said that was fine, but asked me if it was still ok if he created a regular studio account because a couple of his models had asked him specifically about my site. I said sure, that was acceptable, but I didn't want SexySusie on my site, because we have some personal differences and I didn't feel that she would be a good fit. He never created a studio account. Take from that what you will...

I'm not really sure what you're saying here. Are you saying DP are 'working for' SexySusie?


I'm being patient until I have more models camming regularly

I get the feeling you'd have a lot more active models if you didn't talk to them like this:


Don't tell me you're still all butt hurt because I wouldn't let you work on my site after our exchange before. You had to have seen that one coming.

Look, lady. I was going to be nice about this, but you just poked the bear.

That's the part that YOU see as a model, but I've been working inside the big black box longer than you have been sitting at the terminal, so don't you be condescending with me, miss, because you don't know me.

I know you said you didn't come here specifically to recruit models, but you have stated on numerous occasions that you really need more active models and here you are, on a site with hundreds of active models and half the time you talk to us like we're 5 years old and the other half like we've just taken a dump in your left shoe. There has been a lot of talk in private about how you are conducting yourself in this thread, and I am not alone in thinking you are misguided at best.

Please treat us with respect.

sexysusie
12-31-2015, 07:24 PM
Oh dear me lol maybe you need to read back over our posts to each other as you seem to have Forgotten I said I had no intention of ever signing up with you as your attitude stinks and your % is too low. Reports I've heard of you camping out in people's cam rooms, there being no traffic, and Your rudeness to other ladies on here have only served to prove my instincts were right. Quite frankly I'm surprised you haven't been banned from here yet like all the other wannabe camsite operators with no clue.

CurvyBlondeOnCam
01-01-2016, 03:19 AM
I have been following this post for some time and have seen good and bad from both sides , but one thing I am sure off is that daily pay aka Colin who I have also been with for 4 years plus on various site - adultwork (my main cam site) streammate , clips4sale , chaturbrate , MFC etc.... he is NOT shady (some may say the same about you , camping out in girls rooms ) , yes some mistakes in the past , but who hasn't made a mistake ? There is a reason why Adultworks finest is the number 1 group on AW!

Thats my opinion lol ;)

ps happy new year x

thegooddoctor
01-01-2016, 04:41 AM
I have been following this post for some time and have seen good and bad from both sides , but one thing I am sure off is that daily pay aka Colin who I have also been with for 4 years plus on various site - adultwork (my main cam site) streammate , clips4sale , chaturbrate , MFC etc.... he is NOT shady (some may say the same about you , camping out in girls rooms ) , yes some mistakes in the past , but who hasn't made a mistake ? There is a reason why Adultworks finest is the number 1 group on AW!

Thats my opinion lol ;)

ps happy new year x

Happy new year to you as well. I'm glad to hear that you had a good experience with Colin. I just didn't feel comfortable turning over most of my payroll to him solely so I could offer payoneer as a payment option. Because that was how all of this started. As a site that was only a couple of weeks old, having someone approach me saying "trust me, let me take over 90% of your company because you don't offer a payout option that I do" and at the same time saying that payment processing was a total (including his cut) of 1%, which seemed unrealistically low, and I simply wasn't comfortable with following through with that. As the site owner I am allowed to say "I'm not sure that this person is speaking in my best interests, and there's some catch that I'm not being told of" and that was the end of the conversation. Then Susie gets all bent out of shape because of it, before I even made a final decision about it, just that I expressed that I was skeptical, which is what prompted that fight.

CurvyBlondeOnCam
01-01-2016, 05:03 AM
I totally understand that off cause if you don't know someone you are not going to trust them 100% ! When I joined Daily pay i was so nervous , questioning myself am I going to get paid , is this a con ? I felt like it was to good to be true and these things usually are , thankfully for me and all the other girls it is 100% legit.

All i know about cuts is that Colin himself takes the bare minimal from all girls to keep DP running , I for one am not trying to make you change you mind with you decision and I don't know what DP even think at this time , it was more of a reassurance from my side that he is not what he is portrayed to be by some people that have never been with the site only going by hearsay . :)

sexysusie
01-01-2016, 05:29 AM
He already offered Collin a studio deal lol. What a croc!

thegooddoctor
01-01-2016, 05:50 AM
I totally understand that off cause if you don't know someone you are not going to trust them 100% ! When I joined Daily pay i was so nervous , questioning myself am I going to get paid , is this a con ? I felt like it was to good to be true and these things usually are , thankfully for me and all the other girls it is 100% legit.

All i know about cuts is that Colin himself takes the bare minimal from all girls to keep DP running , I for one am not trying to make you change you mind with you decision and I don't know what DP even think at this time , it was more of a reassurance from my side that he is not what he is portrayed to be by some people that have never been with the site only going by hearsay . :)

Well the entire reason for him asking to take over the payroll is moot. Payoneer is letting me have an account with them, so I'll be able to offer it as a payment option soon, and on the whole, doing payroll isn't particularly challenging. I can handle it fine on my own. I'm getting quicker at it, and hope to bump up to doing weekly payouts instead of every other week soon.


He already offered Collin a studio deal lol. What a croc!

Not sure what you're saying is such a croc. He asked to take over my payroll and pretty much be the studio for every model on my site, because I didn't offer payoneer. That was the conversation I had with him. I said I'd think about it but ultimately said no, I didn't feel comfortable with that. He asked if he could still have a regular studio account. I said sure, but I didn't want YOU, Susie, on my site. That was my only stipulation, and the end of my conversation with him. If you'd like, I could copy and paste the conversation I had with him on skype about it, or you could ask him yourself.

sexysusie
01-01-2016, 07:58 AM
Look, I'd appreciate you stop this right now. I had and have no intention of ever working with you, I've never touched sites that aren't already established, well regarded, and/or pay a high %.

I didn't comment on here again to be dragged back into a petty argument, I wanted to point out that the way you're now portraying your site is not how you initially sold it to the ladies here. Dominatrices and other fetish professionals do not generally offer spanks and flashes for tips - that is the realm of the likes of MFC and SM, sites which can do so because they are teeming with traffic and credibility, neither of which your site has.

thegooddoctor
01-01-2016, 09:43 AM
Look, I'd appreciate you stop this right now. I had and have no intention of ever working with you, I've never touched sites that aren't already established, well regarded, and/or pay a high %.

This thread is about MY company. People are asking questions, and I'm giving answers to the best of my knowledge and ability. If you don't like what I have to say in my thread, then unsubscribe from getting notices about updates, be an adult, and ignore it. If you want a thread that's all about you, then go make one yourself. I promise that I will never comment in it.


I didn't comment on here again to be dragged back into a petty argument, I wanted to point out that the way you're now portraying your site is not how you initially sold it to the ladies here. Dominatrices and other fetish professionals do not generally offer spanks and flashes for tips - that is the realm of the likes of MFC and SM, sites which can do so because they are teeming with traffic and credibility, neither of which your site has.

... and yet you continue to comment! Sure Tops don't offer spanks for tips, but bottoms and switches do. What I'm hearing from what you're saying is that bottoms and switches are "not fetish" because that's what some vanilla girls do on other sites. Furthermore those were two EXAMPLES, and are not the only things that girls on the site do. Stop trying to twist my words just so you can take a stab at me. And for the record, I can only report on what happens on my site. I can't force my models nor can I force my members to want or not want to pay for something. If my members want a girl to spank herself at $2/ spank, I'm not going to say no to that. Even if that was something I had a particular problem with... as long as it doesn't violate any bank or legal rules, why would I not be flexible and allow the girls to do the things that work and make money, and to ignore the things that don't? My site's been up, what? a little over 2 months now. The rules aren't etched in granite. They're written in pencil, and for good reason. And for the record how DARE you speak to me of what kind of credibility I have? You don't know me. All you know about me is that I don't put up with your bullshit, and I'm not afraid of telling you to your face what I think about you instead of taking passive aggressive pot shots.

audritwo
01-01-2016, 12:30 PM
Lol. This is adorable.

SuperPookie
01-01-2016, 12:49 PM
Spanks and flashes for tips? A) that's not fetish, and b) that's EXACTLY like every other tip site out there, there's nothing unique about you at all.
Now, I don't know what issues you and Susie had nor do I care to as it's none of my business but she is spot on about this. Basically this is the type of crap expected on every tipping based site and is the absolute opposite of fetish. You had a truly unique idea in the beginning of having not only a real fetish cam site but a classy one. While of course it's your business and you have every right to run it as you see fit , it's only been a few months and the entire concept has changed to Chaturbate in latex. Ladies who enjoy that type of environment are already on there or MFC where there is the type of traffic to support it. I truly hope you'll go back to your original idea as there's still time to save your basic idea which requires a private based site with no public nudity and flashes are just that. I wish you and your models the very best of luck though and certainly appreciate you taking the time to discuss the matter here. Now you and Susie shake hands and make up lol.

thegooddoctor
01-03-2016, 05:58 AM
No matter what I do, someone here is going to find something to complain about. You want super high class fetish? The already low traffic is going to be even lower. If you want more traffic, you have to put up with people who don't have as much money and are going to ask for smaller stuff that they can afford. You just can't have both. I'd love to be able to magically fill each and every one of your rooms with 20 extremely wealthy hardcore fetishists who don't want you to do anything in public, even for tips and just take you for 2 hour private shows at $15/ min. But that's just not realistic. Yes, we have some big spenders on the site who will drop $500 in a session without blinking an eye. Unfortunately, those make up a minority of the people who come to cam sites. If there's a community of those extremely wealthy fetishists, tell me where they are and I'll advertise the hell out of the site to them. But as far as I know there's no such thing as "Rich Weirdo Magazine."

I'm trying to do the best that I can, and that's all I can do. I created a space where all fetishes (within legal limits) are accepted. No site accepts AB/DL's as much as we do. We accept trans cam models and don't treat them like second class citizens. If I get a new model who does a specific fetish show that I don't have on my list, I add it for them, without hesitation. As far as I am aware, we have the loosest rules of any cam site I know, regarding what our models are allowed to do in their shows. I created the platform. I can try to mold the site as it grows, but at the end of the day, the site is going to take the shape that it wants to take, based on the models and the customers. I don't know what more you want me to do here?

Like any site owner, I want my site to grow and to flourish. I want my models to make money, and for them to be happy doing the shows they want to do. I'm hearing a lot of complaints, mostly from people who don't work on my site with any amount of regularity mind you, but very little in the way of positive and reasonable suggestions on how to fix the things you don't like. If you have a reasonable complaint, come at it like this. "Hey, Doc. I think X can be improved on your site. Have you considered doing Y to fix that, instead?" Because as of late, all I'm hearing is complaints with no suggestions on how to fix the problem. I'm all for constructive criticism, but all flat criticism with nothing backing it up, is only going to make me wonder if you want to affect change and fix problems, or do you just want to bitch and complain about things?

DonaDiabla
01-03-2016, 08:25 AM
Hello,
I have a few questions about your site.
First, can you explain the sugar daddy category? It seems like a very broad category without too much explanation.
Second, Are you a performer on your site? I saw your profile on the "Guy" section and I am curious.
Third, do you find that facebook helps you get more clients?
Fourth, what is your main demographic? Lower end clients or high class clients.
Fifth, can you explain the kink system? I mean what does 3 kinks mean?
Thanks









No matter what I do, someone here is going to find something to complain about. You want super high class fetish? The already low traffic is going to be even lower. If you want more traffic, you have to put up with people who don't have as much money and are going to ask for smaller stuff that they can afford. You just can't have both. I'd love to be able to magically fill each and every one of your rooms with 20 extremely wealthy hardcore fetishists who don't want you to do anything in public, even for tips and just take you for 2 hour private shows at $15/ min. But that's just not realistic. Yes, we have some big spenders on the site who will drop $500 in a session without blinking an eye. Unfortunately, those make up a minority of the people who come to cam sites. If there's a community of those extremely wealthy fetishists, tell me where they are and I'll advertise the hell out of the site to them. But as far as I know there's no such thing as "Rich Weirdo Magazine."

I'm trying to do the best that I can, and that's all I can do. I created a space where all fetishes (within legal limits) are accepted. No site accepts AB/DL's as much as we do. We accept trans cam models and don't treat them like second class citizens. If I get a new model who does a specific fetish show that I don't have on my list, I add it for them, without hesitation. As far as I am aware, we have the loosest rules of any cam site I know, regarding what our models are allowed to do in their shows. I created the platform. I can try to mold the site as it grows, but at the end of the day, the site is going to take the shape that it wants to take, based on the models and the customers. I don't know what more you want me to do here?

Like any site owner, I want my site to grow and to flourish. I want my models to make money, and for them to be happy doing the shows they want to do. I'm hearing a lot of complaints, mostly from people who don't work on my site with any amount of regularity mind you, but very little in the way of positive and reasonable suggestions on how to fix the things you don't like. If you have a reasonable complaint, come at it like this. "Hey, Doc. I think X can be improved on your site. Have you considered doing Y to fix that, instead?" Because as of late, all I'm hearing is complaints with no suggestions on how to fix the problem. I'm all for constructive criticism, but all flat criticism with nothing backing it up, is only going to make me wonder if you want to affect change and fix problems, or do you just want to bitch and complain about things?

thegooddoctor
01-03-2016, 09:16 AM
Hello,
I have a few questions about your site.
First, can you explain the sugar daddy category? It seems like a very broad category without too much explanation.
Second, Are you a performer on your site? I saw your profile on the "Guy" section and I am curious.
Third, do you find that facebook helps you get more clients?
Fourth, what is your main demographic? Lower end clients or high class clients.
Fifth, can you explain the kink system? I mean what does 3 kinks mean?
Thanks

Sure thing Dona. I'll be happy to answer those questions for you.

Honestly, the sugar daddy category I lifted from Flirt4Free. It's akin to Financial Domination, but for submissives.

Yes, I do have a performer's account on my site. I cammed on the old Kink Live where I ran a BDSM advice show. I intended to continue that on my site as well. I don't have a lot of free time to do it though.

I've found Twitter, Instagram and Tublr work very well for models. I have a MFL twitter that I use to retweet a lot of what the models tweet at me, and occasionally post on my own. I'm very hesitant to deal with Facebook, specifically, because of their recent policy changes about forcing people to use their real names. I've found that to be a major problem in the adult industry where you may not want everyone knowing what your real name is.

Our core demographic is actually pretty widely varied, so I'm going to have to go with "it depends." Our AB/DL models tend to bring in younger men in their early to mid 20s, middle income and older men 40+ with middle to high income. We have a pretty strong contingent of high income clients from the UK, Ireland, Germany and Amsterdam in the 30-40 age range. It's tough to really narrow it down more than that since we have different demographics for different model "types."

Kinks are our currency on MFL. Consider them as you would "credits" on other sites. 1 Kink is equivalent to 1 USD.

Vlodina
02-06-2016, 04:18 AM
Curious as to what's going on with this site. Long time since the last post...

stormi
02-06-2016, 08:22 PM
Curious as to what's going on with this site. Long time since the last post...

I was wondering too. It seems like every time I visit the site the same three models are on. I guess there's not a lot of traffic to make it worth logging on consistently and those three models are bringing in their own fans?

KatyBoleyn
02-06-2016, 09:41 PM
Its a fetish/BDSM oriented boutique site. The members that spend do act a lot like family - I had a very similar experience with LCM network. Never more than a few models on, and never more than a few members, but when I did log on for about an hour a day they did come by and spend - I did ABDL and balloons. That seems to be the pattern here as well. My suggestion would be only to capitalize more on that aspect - maybe have a forum where clients can post and models can interact with their fans. This lets the clients see that their "friends" are into the same fetishes and such. This also gives clients something to interact with in case there are no models at the moment, but they get to know the model's schedule and interests as well as socialize in general with other lovers of the same fetishes. There are some downsides to this model, namely that clients can get clingy and jelly sometimes - especially after they run out of money for a bit.

Tsani
02-23-2016, 12:19 PM
I got an email that said they've bought some traffic... not sure what kind of traffic, if it's quality or what. Yesterday I popped over there just to see if there were more models online than before and was surprised to see a whole 8 girls online! Though one of them was fucking herself with a dildo, pussy and butthole front and center in free chat. I was the only person in her room (wasn't logged in or anything) and she was just going at it. I'm hoping she was just splitcamming and forgot to go into break mode on MFL because it would be sad if this site has devolved that much already.

Anybody been working on there since the traffic email went out? Does it seem to be quality or just quantity traffic?

LaylaLovely
02-23-2016, 12:54 PM
You actually just reminded me of that email..I'm gonna hop on n hopefully get something...I'll report it I notice a difference

thegooddoctor
03-04-2016, 04:12 AM
That's correct that I got some traffic. I'm doing some ad and traffic buys over the next couple of weeks. It's an iterative process. You run a test, you make some tweaks, you run another test. Compare the data. Make some more tweaks. Rinse and repeat.

That first traffic buy I did was a baseline. We certainly got a lot of foot traffic. We went from about 1000 hits per day to over 10,000. The vast majority of it is crap, but that's how traffic buys work. You throw a whole bunch of darts and the dartboard and you occasionally hit a bullseye. Over that week, we had 9 people create accounts. So, not bad for a $100 test run and not really doing much in the way of targeting the traffic buy. Again. Iterative process.

Regarding the model who was fucking herself, we did have a couple of models start camming recently and I hadnt' had an opportunity to explain all the rules to them yet, but most probably that was a network model that I pulled in, and not one of mine. With me doing these ad buys, I need as many warm bodies on the site as possible. Actually some of members seem to really like a few of them, so... *shrugs*. Again, it comes down to the traffic/ online models catch 22. In order for me to justify buying traffic I need models on 24/7 to catch the traffic. In order for models to want to come on throughout the day, especially the odd shifts, there needs to be traffic. The network models are somewhat of an insurance policy that there's at least someone on. With any luck these ad buys will start to pay off and get some decent traffic, which will give models more opportunities to make money, and will cam more often, which will allow me to do bigger buys which will get even more traffic... you get the point.

thegooddoctor
03-04-2016, 04:27 AM
Oh, and since I can't reply to the other MFL thread. Regarding the AB/DL comments that were made... I haven't advertised to ab/dl's at all. We just get a TON of them on our site because we actually allow it and have a bunch of models that cater to it. I've found that ABDL fetishists soak up content like it's their job. They can definitely be a little off putting, especially if that's not something you cater to. I had to throw one member off the site because he was creeping out the models and I received a number of complaints about him. I suggest politely saying that it's not what you do, and if they get obnoxious about it, just kick 'em. Most learn pretty quickly who they can go to and who they can't. But to answer the question, no that's not the traffic I'm focusing on right now. In fact, I think we're a little oversaturated (no pun intended) with them. Primarily, what I'm going to be buying in the next couple of weeks is some more Fem Domme traffic and working on recruiting a some more Fem Domme models, as that's an area that I think we're a little lacking. For submissive models, we do have a good amount of male top members, including a couple of whales floating around. You just have to catch it at the right time slots. Most of them are on around 9pm - 1am EST, and there's a bump in the mornings EST from some of our UK members. Once I bulk up our Fem Domme section I'll reassess what we need and go from there.

kinkydirtybitch
03-04-2016, 09:00 AM
Well I've been entranced by this thread from start to finish instead of getting onto SM! Done good with the other eggs as they are non FV which got me wondering if FV is compulsory?

Thanks!

Back to proper work now!

thegooddoctor
03-04-2016, 03:06 PM
Well I've been entranced by this thread from start to finish instead of getting onto SM! Done good with the other eggs as they are non FV which got me wondering if FV is compulsory?

Thanks!

Back to proper work now!

Sorry, this is a dumb question, but what does FV stand for? Most probably whatever FV is, is not compulsory. I generally try to give models as much freedom as I can to do their shows however they choose. Usually whatever rules we have (which aren't many) are more geared towards things you can't do on camera. Rarely do I say that there are things you HAVE to do.

Tsani
03-04-2016, 03:41 PM
Not a dumb question, I'm not sure what FV is either.

thegooddoctor
03-04-2016, 09:41 PM
Not a dumb question, I'm not sure what FV is either.

My first thought was Finger in Vagina, so the answer would be "no, that's not required. Also, not allowed in free chat" But then I got to thinking maybe it could very easily mean something else, so I decided to have a little fun with it...

Fancy Volcano?
Favorite Vacation spot?
Freerunning Vocation?
Freestyle figuring out the Volume of something?
Fuckin' VAT! (that one's for the UK ladies... awwww yeah!)

Vlodina
03-05-2016, 02:21 AM
My first thought was Finger in Vagina, so the answer would be "no, that's not required. Also, not allowed in free chat" But then I got to thinking maybe it could very easily mean something else, so I decided to have a little fun with it...

Fancy Volcano?
Favorite Vacation spot?
Freerunning Vocation?
Freestyle figuring out the Volume of something?
Fuckin' VAT! (that one's for the UK ladies... awwww yeah!)

I'm venturing Fv = freeview = Freechat

Tsani
03-05-2016, 01:21 PM
I'm venturing Fv = freeview = Freechat

That makes sense. Thanks!

thegooddoctor
03-07-2016, 05:57 AM
I'm venturing Fv = freeview = Freechat

That's a very valid point. If that's the case... maybe? Generally, yes, but I'm experimenting with a new feature to create a "fake group chat" so that if they want to talk to you they have to go into your "group chat" which is ppm. I don't know if I'll keep it. I added it because I kept catching studio girls doing free shows in public chat because they're split camming. Split camming is fine, but giving a free show when no one on my site has paid for it? Not acceptable. So far, not many models have used it. i'm not sure if they've figured out what it does just yet. However, most of our models prefer the free chat option. The general consensus seems to be that most members prefer to talk to a model before they take them private. Especially with Fetish, a lot of the customers want to make sure that 1) you do the fetish that they're interested in and 2) that there's a connection between you and them. So as of right now, no you don't HAVE to use Free Chat, but you're probably not going to make a ton of money if you don't.

kinkydirtybitch
03-07-2016, 10:20 AM
I'm venturing Fv = freeview = Freechat

Sorry I thought it was pretty obvious!

FV = freeview a bit like PVT = private

kinkydirtybitch
03-07-2016, 10:23 AM
That's a very valid point. If that's the case... maybe? Generally, yes, but I'm experimenting with a new feature to create a "fake group chat" so that if they want to talk to you they have to go into your "group chat" which is ppm. I don't know if I'll keep it. I added it because I kept catching studio girls doing free shows in public chat because they're split camming. Split camming is fine, but giving a free show when no one on my site has paid for it? Not acceptable. So far, not many models have used it. i'm not sure if they've figured out what it does just yet. However, most of our models prefer the free chat option. The general consensus seems to be that most members prefer to talk to a model before they take them private. Especially with Fetish, a lot of the customers want to make sure that 1) you do the fetish that they're interested in and 2) that there's a connection between you and them. So as of right now, no you don't HAVE to use Free Chat, but you're probably not going to make a ton of money if you don't.


Ah that's a shame! Every site is different & I would have a melt down if all of the 9 sites I stream to demanded FV!

Good luck with your venture and thanks for responding.

CatBBW
03-08-2016, 05:08 AM
I am thinking of signing up here soon, and was wondering: Am I allowed to give customers my contact info at all? The reason I ask is that if I sign up I will NOT be doing cum shows, I will be strictly domme etc. So the convo I am imagining would go like this:

HIM: "I want to see you finger yourself"
ME: "I absolutely do not do that here. If you want to see my vanilla shows, please contact me on [email protected]"

Acceptable?

ALSO...couple more Qs. 1) what payout methods (and payout minimum amounts) are now available to UK residents? and 2) are we allowed to sell physical items like panties, and content like vids/pics?

thanks :)

Tsani
03-08-2016, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure if giving out your email is allowed, but I know that you can link your Twitter and FetLife accounts on there so you can direct custies looking for vanilla stuff to click on your Twitter link to see where else to find you.

thegooddoctor
03-10-2016, 01:29 AM
If I were to put a rule of thumb on it, don't do anything that would circumvent the payment system on site. If you're talking to a customer, and you're using my platform and resources to make money, then that's the payment system you should use.

DonaDiabla
03-14-2016, 08:04 PM
Hey,
It saids that Myfetishlive.com has Server Licence Failure. I was wondering if site is offline for awhile or it is permanent?

Sally Says
03-14-2016, 08:25 PM
i was wondering this too. Are there any other sites i can link to my fetlife account?

Tsani
03-14-2016, 08:27 PM
Looks like the site owner was late with a payment for the software license. Wasn't this one of the things we were concerned about earlier in this thread?

thegooddoctor
03-22-2016, 02:29 AM
Looks like the site owner was late with a payment for the software license. Wasn't this one of the things we were concerned about earlier in this thread?

I was away for a funeral. My girlfriend's father passed away suddenly and we had to make a surprise trip to Kentucky to deal with the funeral arrangements. We were gone for a little over a week. Making the payment during that time period like I was scheduled to do, wasn't exactly on my mind. I'm sure you can understand. We got home, and a couple days later I noticed that the temp license expired and I took care of it. We were only down for a few hours. That was the final payment on the license. It's all paid off and we have a permanent license now, so we won't ever have that problem again.

SuperPookie
03-28-2016, 04:56 PM
Has it picked up on here ?

CatBBW
04-12-2016, 06:02 AM
ALSO...couple more Qs. 1) what payout methods (and payout minimum amounts) are now available to UK residents? and 2) are we allowed to sell physical items like panties, and content like vids/pics?

thanks :)

Still would like to know this, thanks :)

Rispy_Girl
04-12-2016, 06:09 PM
While this site is new, it looks interesting and fun. I'm CB and still very new, but I was looking for more kink than I'm getting on there. Will the info under "Personal Information" be completely private? Is the age listed drawn from there because I use a slightly different bday for my cam persona.

thegooddoctor
04-17-2016, 09:04 AM
Still would like to know this, thanks :)

Hi Cat. Sorry if I missed your question. I don't check this site very often. For international models, we use Paxum. I'll be adding Payoneer eventually as well. Minimum payout is $50. If a wire transfer is the only way you can accept payment, the minimum for those is $500.

Yes, you can sell physical goods like panties. For those, just have a customer tip you for the cost and shipping. For vids and pics, we're going to be adding a way to sell videos through the site, which will streamline the process a bit.

thegooddoctor
04-17-2016, 09:07 AM
While this site is new, it looks interesting and fun. I'm CB and still very new, but I was looking for more kink than I'm getting on there. Will the info under "Personal Information" be completely private? Is the age listed drawn from there because I use a slightly different bday for my cam persona.

Yes, that info is completely private. In the "questionnaire" section, you can select what age you want to display, and it is completely separate from your DOB, which is only there for employment verification info.

CatBBW
04-17-2016, 01:10 PM
Hi Cat. Sorry if I missed your question. I don't check this site very often. For international models, we use Paxum. I'll be adding Payoneer eventually as well. Minimum payout is $50. If a wire transfer is the only way you can accept payment, the minimum for those is $500.

Yes, you can sell physical goods like panties. For those, just have a customer tip you for the cost and shipping. For vids and pics, we're going to be adding a way to sell videos through the site, which will streamline the process a bit.

Brilliant, thank you. I have joined, and will go through the verification/ID process this week. I'm looking forward to trying out your site :)

grumps mcgee
04-25-2016, 09:13 PM
I'm sorry if this has been asked before - is passport the only ID method being accepted by MFL for age verification at this point? If yes, is covering the passport number itself acceptable? If no, what other forms of ID are acceptable?