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StreamStrip
11-26-2015, 12:19 AM
http://www.streamstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/streamstriplogo.png

Hi everyone,

We are a brand new adult marketplace and cam website that will be launching soon. I was trying to respond to this but for whatever reason, it said I was not allowed.

The website has been in development for that last half a year and is finally almost ready to launch, so we are now recruiting models!

Looking for models to grow with us as a company and become part of the brand.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUB71z-UEAEtAMF.jpg:large

Pay:

Models keep 70% website keeps 30%
Models set own prices for the following:
Group Chat
Private Chat
Voyeur Chat

Referral Commission:

You will notice when you log into your account there will be a Referral Commission link, use that link to earn 10% commission off of every models earnings that you recruit to StreamStrip. The more models that sign up using your link, the more you will be paid! We feel this is a good incentive for the models to all grow together as the website grows
Models keep 70% Reference (You) keep 10% website Keeps 20%
Models will be paid weekly either through Bank Transfer / Checks / Paypal transfer We are working on otherpayout methods as well. If anyone has any suggestions and what they would like, please let us know and we will do our best to accommodate your needs

Privacy:

We want our models to feel comfortable and have as much privacy as possible StreamStrip has Location GEO Blocking which allows you to block single IP Addresses, Cities, States, or Countries.

As StreamStrip gains popularity and success, we will add awesome contest and incentives for our models! We have a lot of amazing things planned for this next year and are excited to have you be part of the StreamStrip Family!


SIGNING UP IS EXTREMELY QUICK AND EASY

GO TO

Fill out the necessary info, make sure it is correct so we can get you paid properly, and upload your 2257's a picture of your photo I.D. as well as a picture of you holding it next to your face.
Then you will be approved and you’re ready to make some money as part of the StreamStrip team!!!!

Contact:

If you have any questions, problems, or concerns, please feel free to contact us at [email protected] ([email protected]) or [email protected] ([email protected])

sexysusie
11-26-2015, 04:56 AM
PayPal lmao. Apparently you don't learn!

RedMeg
11-26-2015, 07:41 AM
I'm with sexysusie on this one- PayPal is not a viable option. If you read the thread you linked to, there is quite a bit of valuable info to be had.

I recommend you read the TOS of the payment processors you use.

Please also consider answering the questions and concerns posted in the linked thread, as they are valid barriers to doing business with you.

SuperPookie
11-26-2015, 05:21 PM
I'm a new model but I got to say PayPal is a big red flag. They are not adult friendly whatsoever. Also you don't explain how you plan on promoting your new site. Yes, your percentage is generous but if it's a percentage of zero..it's still zero lol.

StreamStrip
11-28-2015, 06:14 AM
PayPal lmao. Apparently you don't learn!
Don't learn?

We are a new website. We are talking to other payment processing companies and doing our best to make every model happy. For everyone thinking Payoneer is adult friendly........well you are wrong. Here are part of their terms and conditions

5. Prohibited Use of the servicePayoneer strictly prohibits using the US Payment Service while impersonating any person or entity or falselyclaiming an aliation with any person or entity.The US Payment Service is a solution intended to receive payments for business related activities and is notintended for personal use. Payoneer will block ACH Credits from any individual or for personal reasons. By usingthe US Payment Service, you also conrm that you will not accept payments in connection with the followingactivities, items or services: Any illegal act; Drugs, alcohol, or drug paraphernalia, or items that may represent these uses; Obscene or pornographic items, adult businesses or adult related services, including escort services, adult massage, or other adult-entertainment services, adult performer regardless of sexual orientation; Digital currency; Forex or Binary or any other variation of trading; Cigarettes, tobacco or e-cigarettes; Personal use such as gifts, loans or payments from friends and family; Payday loans; Live animals; Debt elimination, consolidation, or reduction services; Donations; Collection agencies; Credit protection or identity theft protection services; Internet, mail or telephone order pharmaceutical or pharmacy referral services; Medical equipment; Reselling prepaid cards or gift cards\certificates; Bill payment services; Betting, including lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, off-track betting, memberships on gambling-related internet sites and wagers at races; Financial institutions; Sales of money-orders or foreign currency; Wire transfer money orders; Items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime; Any other category or sender that Payoneer decides to prohibit, in its sole discretion.

I have talked to them and there are loop holes in every system. We also can't pay models with them yet because the website has to prove it is earning at least 10k a month to have a mass payout account with them. As the website is not launched yet, we are not approved for an account. I'm sure we will be as things move forward. We are not processing payments through paypal, but a proper adult billing system. How we pay our models has no linking to the website. If you have any favorite payment system that you would recommend please do so and we will look into them.

Don't be so quick to judge and if you're not interested in the website then that's perfectly fine and if you are then awesome, we're happy to have you on the team and look forward to working with you.

StreamStrip
11-28-2015, 06:27 AM
I'm a new model but I got to say PayPal is a big red flag. They are not adult friendly whatsoever. Also you don't explain how you plan on promoting your new site. Yes, your percentage is generous but if it's a percentage of zero..it's still zero lol.

Read my response to SexySuzie on Paypal. We will be running advertisements and doing our best to get the word about the website out there. Until we have at least 100 models approved for the website we are waiting to launch the website. We're not going to run ads and promote an empty website. As we are a new website models should understand things won't be rocket fast in the beginning but were perfectly fine with models working on other websites and staying active on ours as we grow. If a model just assumes to log on to a new website and be a success, they are truly clueless then. We are also more then just a cam website, we are also an adult marketplace. The other part of the website is close to being finished. So if models don't want to cam with us but want to sell their private videos photos, fetish items ect. Then they can or they can have a store and also cam. Every website needs active users and word of mouth to become something. We feel we will do well as we are getting models signed up daily. Check us out and if you don't like us then that's perfectly fine.

QueenBitch
11-28-2015, 06:30 AM
yeah I won't bother with this lol

SuperPookie
11-28-2015, 09:50 AM
Read my response to SexySuzie on Paypal. We will be running advertisements and doing our best to get the word about the website out there. Until we have at least 100 models approved for the website we are waiting to launch the website. We're not going to run ads and promote an empty website. As we are a new website models should understand things won't be rocket fast in the beginning but were perfectly fine with models working on other websites and staying active on ours as we grow. If a model just assumes to log on to a new website and be a success, they are truly clueless then. We are also more then just a cam website, we are also an adult marketplace. The other part of the website is close to being finished. So if models don't want to cam with us but want to sell their private videos photos, fetish items ect. Then they can or they can have a store and also cam. Every website needs active users and word of mouth to become something. We feel we will do well as we are getting models signed up daily. Check us out and if you don't like us then that's perfectly fine.
I'm not trying to be rude or insult your site but those are leginimate questions. Obviously no brand new site is going to have a lot of traffic but there needs to be some that isn't self directed. While yes they will most likely split cam with another site there has to be something and I was simply asking how you planned to provide that. That you also will let girls sell items is a good thing though. Anyway I wish you the best of luck with your new indeavor.

laurielegs
11-28-2015, 12:14 PM
Don't learn?

We are a new website. We are talking to other payment processing companies and doing our best to make every model happy. For everyone thinking Payoneer is adult friendly........well you are wrong. Here are part of their terms and conditions

5. Prohibited Use of the servicePayoneer strictly prohibits using the US Payment Service while impersonating any person or entity or falselyclaiming an aliation with any person or entity.The US Payment Service is a solution intended to receive payments for business related activities and is notintended for personal use. Payoneer will block ACH Credits from any individual or for personal reasons. By usingthe US Payment Service, you also conrm that you will not accept payments in connection with the followingactivities, items or services:• Any illegal act;• Drugs, alcohol, or drug paraphernalia, or items that may represent these uses;• Obscene or pornographic items, adult businesses or adult related services, including escort services, adult massage, or other adult-entertainment services, adult performer regardless of sexual orientation;• Digital currency;• Forex or Binary or any other variation of trading;• Cigarettes, tobacco or e-cigarettes;• Personal use such as gifts, loans or payments from friends and family;• Payday loans;• Live animals;• Debt elimination, consolidation, or reduction services;• Donations;• Collection agencies;• Credit protection or identity theft protection services;• Internet, mail or telephone order pharmaceutical or pharmacy referral services;• Medical equipment;• Reselling prepaid cards or gift cards\certificates;• Bill payment services;• Betting, including lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, off-track betting, memberships on gambling-related internet sites and wagers at races;• Financial institutions;• Sales of money-orders or foreign currency;• Wire transfer money orders;• Items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime;• Any other category or sender that Payoneer decides to prohibit, in its sole discretion.

I have talked to them and there are loop holes in every system. We also can't pay models with them yet because the website has to prove it is earning at least 10k a month to have a mass payout account with them. As the website is not launched yet, we are not approved for an account. I'm sure we will be as things move forward. We are not processing payments through paypal, but a proper adult billing system. How we pay our models has no linking to the website. If you have any favorite payment system that you would recommend please do so and we will look into them.

Don't be so quick to judge and if you're not interested in the website then that's perfectly fine and if you are then awesome, we're happy to have you on the team and look forward to working with you.

You are completely misunderstanding Payoneer's terms of service.

Payoneer handles thousands of adult payroll payment transactions every day, but not direct processing. They are not meant to take payment from customers, only payroll. Payroll payments from adult sites are completely within their terms of service. You just cannot use them as a processor for customers.

If you use Paypal for your payroll they will shut down not only your account but any account you pay into and may fine you a nice chunk of money as well as freeze any associated bank accounts to cover the amounts they could be liable for.

StreamStrip
11-28-2015, 04:35 PM
You are completely misunderstanding Payoneer's terms of service.

Payoneer handles thousands of adult payroll payment transactions every day, but not direct processing. They are not meant to take payment from customers, only payroll. Payroll payments from adult sites are completely within their terms of service. You just cannot use them as a processor for customers.

If you use Paypal for your payroll they will shut down not only your account but any account you pay into and may fine you a nice chunk of money as well as freeze any associated bank accounts to cover the amounts they could be liable for.

I completely understand and as I said we are working on other payroll systems for the website. I know how strict Paypal is, I have had them for years. I want to make it the easiest for models to get paid. models are the business, if they're not making money neither are we. so I want to do whatever I can to accommodate the models and make everyone happy. We also have direct deposit and checks right now but the website isn't launched yet and as soon as we have other options available they will be added to the website and we will probably remove Paypal as a option since it seems to be raising red flags here.

BambiCutie
11-28-2015, 04:54 PM
Paypal is not only strict, but firm on these rules and if broken it will cost you not only your account, but ever owning a Paypal account again after that. They don't compromise on adult services or anything related to the industry. It raises red flags alright..

Sinna (2pee4you)
11-29-2015, 02:17 AM
double post

Sinna (2pee4you)
11-29-2015, 02:21 AM
"use that link to earn 10% commission off of every models earnings that you recruit to StreamStrip"

"Models keep 70% Reference (You) keep 10% website Keeps 20%"



I would rephrase the first sentence, as that made me think the referrer gets 10% off of the models earnings at first.

I like the thought you put into this and that you have a design set up. I have tried to help a new site get up and running before which didn't go too well and I will probably skip this one personally, but I might test it and, if it's good, refer models that like to try - if indeed the models don't get less money from the referral, but the site does. I do wonder how you want to stay alive though. I have noticed from similar sites that a lot of customers/ all of them end up being affiliates, so your earnings could just be those 20%.


Paypal is not only strict, but firm on these rules and if broken it will cost you not only your account, but ever owning a Paypal account again after that. They don't compromise on adult services or anything related to the industry. It raises red flags alright..

I can confirm. Even if you barely touched the rules but they deemed it worthy to terminate your account, you will not get another chance even if you call them and explain a new business idea that is totally unrelated to adult. Well, they say you do, but then you get an email that the decision was final and your account stays closed. And I didn't try to open another account or circumvent them or anything else that can even lower your chances of getting another paypal account ever again (according to the guy on the phone, who thought I had a good chance).

StreamStrip
11-29-2015, 04:29 AM
I would rephrase the first sentence, as that made me think the referrer gets 10% off of the models earnings at first.I like the thought you put into this and that you have a design set up. I have tried to help a new site get up and running before which didn't go too well and I will probably skip this one personally, but I might test it and, if it's good, refer models that like to try - if indeed the models don't get less money from the referral, but the site does. I do wonder how you want to stay alive though. I have noticed from similar sites that a lot of customers/ all of them end up being affiliates, so your earnings could just be those 20%.I can confirm. Even if you barely touched the rules but they deemed it worthy to terminate your account, you will not get another chance even if you call them and explain a new business idea that is totally unrelated to adult. Well, they say you do, but then you get an email that the decision was final and your account stays closed. And I didn't try to open another account or circumvent them or anything else that can even lower your chances of getting another paypal account ever again (according to the guy on the phone, who thought I had a good chance).I started this website to help a friend who had a very large following and help her make more money. She wanted to get paid well instead of poorly. After months of working on this website and spending thousands of dollars on the website, she decided to tell me she was done with the industry all together and just wanted to focus on make up. Her large following would have given us a head start, but I can't hate her for that and I respect it. I have worked too hard everyday on this to not give it my best shot, it seems I have some trash talkers on here. It's okay though you can't please everyone. This isn't my only business and I only left Paypal as a payroll option because I can pay through my other company. I'm not going to argue it though, I'm still talking to other payroll solutions and doing the best I can to have everything ready for the website launch. I want this website to become a big name in the industry. Any business I do, I go all in and give it my all. The models who help the website grow will profit as well and the models who don't want to give it a shot, that's okay too.

Sinna (2pee4you)
11-29-2015, 08:05 AM
I don't understand how that answer relates to my post. What is going on.. I was just trying to tell you that "use that link to earn 10% commission off of every models earnings" sounds like "use that link to earn 10% commission off of every models earnings", which is exactly what it says, although you don't mean it, as you explain later on. I just tried to point that out. Forget about it.

DonaDiabla
11-29-2015, 10:38 AM
Quick questions:

Who is your adult merchant account with? It is with CCbill? Plus, how come you did not wait until had a proper payment processor before your grand opening? I do not understand why you want to use paypal unless you are using CCbill or something.



http://www.streamstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/streamstriplogo.png

Hi everyone,

We are a brand new adult marketplace and cam website that will be launching soon. I was trying to respond to this thread (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?205444-New-Cam-Site) but for whatever reason, it said I was not allowed.

The website has been in development for that last half a year and is finally almost ready to launch, so we are now recruiting models!

Looking for models to grow with us as a company and become part of the brand.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUB71z-UEAEtAMF.jpg:large

Pay:

Models keep 70% website keeps 30%
Models set own prices for the following:
Group Chat
Private Chat
Voyeur Chat

Referral Commission:

You will notice when you log into your account there will be a Referral Commission link, use that link to earn 10% commission off of every models earnings that you recruit to StreamStrip. The more models that sign up using your link, the more you will be paid! We feel this is a good incentive for the models to all grow together as the website grows
Models keep 70% Reference (You) keep 10% website Keeps 20%
Models will be paid weekly either through Bank Transfer / Checks / Paypal transfer We are working on otherpayout methods as well. If anyone has any suggestions and what they would like, please let us know and we will do our best to accommodate your needs

Privacy:

We want our models to feel comfortable and have as much privacy as possible StreamStrip has Location GEO Blocking which allows you to block single IP Addresses, Cities, States, or Countries.

As StreamStrip gains popularity and success, we will add awesome contest and incentives for our models! We have a lot of amazing things planned for this next year and are excited to have you be part of the StreamStrip Family!


SIGNING UP IS EXTREMELY QUICK AND EASY

GO TO http://cams.streamstrip.com/exec/performer/join

Fill out the necessary info, make sure it is correct so we can get you paid properly, and upload your 2257's a picture of your photo I.D. as well as a picture of you holding it next to your face.
Then you will be approved and you’re ready to make some money as part of the StreamStrip team!!!!

Contact:

If you have any questions, problems, or concerns, please feel free to contact us at [email protected] ([email protected]) or [email protected] ([email protected])

Tsani
11-29-2015, 01:10 PM
So, model gets 70%, referrer gets 10%, leaving you with 20%.... high risk credit card processing takes 10 to 15% leaving you with 5 to 10% at most....

Hey, if you want to throw all the money from your other business into this venture and make no profit then by all means, go for it. We're not "trash talkers" we're realistic and we've been in the business a long time and have seen sites with good intentions to pay models well fail due to the high expense of running a business in this industry.

Also, if your friend had such a high following and wanted to earn more, why didn't she just go indy or have you build her a membership site? That's what successful cam models do when they have a large following. They either stick with the big box sites that earns them lots of money (though not the highest percentagesl) or they make a membership site and get their own payment processor so they cut out the middleman and make the maximum profits that they can.

I understand passion projects, trust me, I've got many of my own that aren't making me any money whatsoever (see my siggy lol), but you can only do that for so long. But if you've got a fat stack of disposable income then you go ahead and do that shit. More power to ya, bro!

Issabelle
11-29-2015, 04:16 PM
Wow, your friend who came to talk to us in Camming Connection is right--you don't listen. You're brand new to this industry and know almost nothing, present us with a nearly non-existent bullet point list, and then try to brighten the whole thing up with giant pictures of cheap giftbags you'll give out. We don't know anything about you at all and yet you want us to give you all of our personal information (2257 compliancy requires it) AND access to us while we work (including our shows). We have absolutely no reason to do so at this point.

Here is the thread in CC where many of the girls in here outlined their concerns in details. Log out of your account to read it, as male members cannot make posts in CC. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?205444-New-Cam-Site!

Also, don't be pissy, rude, or dismissive to girls giving you advice. Your first few posts were heading that direction or firmly entrenched in the territory, by the way, and this is a prime example:


Read my response to SexySuzie on Paypal. We will be running advertisements and doing our best to get the word about the website out there. Until we have at least 100 models approved for the website we are waiting to launch the website. We're not going to run ads and promote an empty website. As we are a new website models should understand things won't be rocket fast in the beginning but were perfectly fine with models working on other websites and staying active on ours as we grow. If a model just assumes to log on to a new website and be a success, they are truly clueless then. We are also more then just a cam website, we are also an adult marketplace. The other part of the website is close to being finished. So if models don't want to cam with us but want to sell their private videos photos, fetish items ect. Then they can or they can have a store and also cam. Every website needs active users and word of mouth to become something. We feel we will do well as we are getting models signed up daily. Check us out and if you don't like us then that's perfectly fine.

Here's the deal--you need to convince us that your site is worth our time and money (lost while we work your site instead of others we KNOW will give us $50-$100/hour). Your posts thus far have been vague fluff that show you don't actually know the answer to our questions/concerns OR have been you brushing them off. And yet you want us to work for you. You're not gonna get a single model off of this forum to come work for you unless you seriously change your attitude.

I'm sure you don't like me saying that, but tough shit. The models on this forum are among the best in the industry and the girls responding to you in this very thread (as well as other one linked above) are regularly seen on the top page of their chosen site grossing top earnings. You'd be wise to adjust your approach to entice us, not tell us to take it or leave it because we will just leave it. It should speak volumes that your friend publicly announced in the other thread she started to advertise for you that she doesn't think you listen AND that she is unwilling to have her name attached to your business based on your current actions. Just saying.

BambiCutie
11-29-2015, 04:30 PM
it seems I have some trash talkers on here. It's okay though you can't please everyone. This isn't my only business and I only left Paypal as a payroll option because I can pay through my other company. I'm not going to argue it though, I'm still talking to other payroll solutions and doing the best I can to have everything ready for the website launch.

No one is trash talking you other than asking questions and stating facts. You shouldn't use Paypal as a payroll option, its too much of a risk. (even with consideration) As for paying through your other company..just one hint of you not only transfering, but covering up this being sex industry related it will turn out to be very costly for you both.. :-X

StreamStrip
11-29-2015, 10:52 PM
Quick questions:

Who is your adult merchant account with? It is with CCbill? Plus, how come you did not wait until had a proper payment processor before your grand opening? I do not understand why you want to use paypal unless you are using CCbill or something.

CCBill is one we were going to be using but we are switching to Net Billing. We haven't had a grand opening of the website yet. We have been signing up models and testing things properly before we do launch of the website.

StreamStrip
11-29-2015, 11:31 PM
Wow, your friend who came to talk to us in Camming Connection is right--you don't listen. You're brand new to this industry and know almost nothing, present us with a nearly non-existent bullet point list, and then try to brighten the whole thing up with giant pictures of cheap giftbags you'll give out. We don't know anything about you at all and yet you want us to give you all of our personal information (2257 compliancy requires it) AND access to us while we work (including our shows). We have absolutely no reason to do so at this point.

Here is the thread in CC where many of the girls in here outlined their concerns in details. Log out of your account to read it, as male members cannot make posts in CC. !

Also, don't be pissy, rude, or dismissive to girls giving you advice. Your first few posts were heading that direction or firmly entrenched in the territory, by the way, and this is a prime example:



Here's the deal--you need to convince us that your site is worth our time and money (lost while we work your site instead of others we KNOW will give us $50-$100/hour). Your posts thus far have been vague fluff that show you don't actually know the answer to our questions/concerns OR have been you brushing them off. And yet you want us to work for you. You're not gonna get a single model off of this forum to come work for you unless you seriously change your attitude.

I'm sure you don't like me saying that, but tough shit. The models on this forum are among the best in the industry and the girls responding to you in this very thread (as well as other one linked above) are regularly seen on the top page of their chosen site grossing top earnings. You'd be wise to adjust your approach to entice us, not tell us to take it or leave it because we will just leave it. It should speak volumes that your friend publicly announced in the other thread she started to advertise for you that she doesn't think you listen AND that she is unwilling to have her name attached to your business based on your current actions. Just saying.

My friend who came to talk on here is an acquaintance we have never hung out in person. We are just friends on facebook. For how she went from full on support to a 180 saying I'm an embarrassment and doesn't think I have the right mentality to run a business is very rude and says a lot about her character. I find that highly offensive when she really doesn't know me. She wanted to get referral credits so she posted here. I saw the other comments on the other thread and to me they came off rude. I apologize if my post came off as rude. that is not my intentions and I am listening and taking in all the advice I have read.

To answer some of your questions

Who is the owner? My name is Patrick Crisci

What kind of experience does the owner have with the industry? I almost started a porn website years ago, but the capital and opportunity wasn't right. I have successful friends in the industry.

What kind of capital does the owner have to invest to keep this site afloat until it turns profitable? That's personal and there is no reason for anyone needing to know that info, just as I don't need to know how much money you have or make.

Traffic--where is the owner getting it? We're going to run advertisements and do our best as I said in the previous post.

Token or pay per minute site? Our site has credits the same thing as tokens just a different name, models set their own per minute rates

Geoblocking? Yes we have that

Payout structure and schedule? Weekly

What payout services does this use and when are those payments sent? payrolls options are still being added

Minimum payout amount? is $50.00 if you do not make that then it will transfer over to next weeks payment

Does the owner have a certain type of model they want? We accept anyone wanting to work on the website we do not judge anyone

StreamStrip
11-29-2015, 11:46 PM
So, model gets 70%, referrer gets 10%, leaving you with 20%.... high risk credit card processing takes 10 to 15% leaving you with 5 to 10% at most....

Hey, if you want to throw all the money from your other business into this venture and make no profit then by all means, go for it. We're not "trash talkers" we're realistic and we've been in the business a long time and have seen sites with good intentions to pay models well fail due to the high expense of running a business in this industry.

Also, if your friend had such a high following and wanted to earn more, why didn't she just go indy or have you build her a membership site? That's what successful cam models do when they have a large following. They either stick with the big box sites that earns them lots of money (though not the highest percentagesl) or they make a membership site and get their own payment processor so they cut out the middleman and make the maximum profits that they can.

I understand passion projects, trust me, I've got many of my own that aren't making me any money whatsoever (see my siggy lol), but you can only do that for so long. But if you've got a fat stack of disposable income then you go ahead and do that shit. More power to ya, bro!

Our percentage for our account is lower then that. With ccbill it was around 15%

I'm very realistic too and I'm not planning on making money from the website for the first year. Everything the website makes is getting put back into the website for advertising, promotions, contest, conventions, servers and updates for the website. The main goal is to get established and become a known name.

My friend didn't want to be a part of the adult industry anymore.

Best of luck on your projects. I hope they turn around for you.

Issabelle
11-30-2015, 01:46 PM
You know what? Good luck and maybe you'll prove a lot of us wrong here, but I don't think you have a stable business model in any way, shape, or form and I'm not gonna touch this still-unlaunched site with a 10 foot pole.

Reasons include:
* lack of experience in the industry -> successful friends and an almost start-up don't replace actually working for a site and knowing the ins-and-outs of the industry. If Liz or Vanessa of SM or Shirley of CB or Natalie of ModelCentro showed up in here and said 'hey ladies, we're making a live cam site,' their resumes would speak for themselves. What've you got to go off of here?
* lack of information regarding funding -> that seems like a private issue, but it's not. We've seen dozens upon dozens of sites--start up AND experienced go under on this forum. I've personally had a site fail to pay me because they didn't have funding in place. Your word is not enough. We don't need to know exactly who/what/how much, but knowing your plan has a detailed expenses list and enough funding to cover it, as well as a fall-back option if you do go under, is very important to models.
* details regarding traffic are too vague -> 'going to run advertisements and do our best' is not a plan. That's how people end up posting to craigslist and dating sites and other places that do NOT convert to paying traffic but ARE wasted money. Targeted advertisements are critical and I haven't heard any discussion of an affiliate traffic plan.
* lack of payroll option clarity -> you can't ask models to sign up when they don't even know how they're going to get paid. Not every payroll option exists in every country and not every model is going to want to open a totally separate payroll option for a new site, savvy? So they're gonna want to know these things up front.
* site hasn't launched -> I get the logic of not wanting to throw cash at a site without models being there but, uh, I also won't sign up for a site until I've been able to see it live. Again, it has to go with the privacy thing and handing my information over to a total stranger, but also because I want to see if I even want to work the platform first.
* the issues with you vs. 'your friend' from the other thread -> she tells it like you're close enough friends to have talked through your model, but you tell it like she's someone you barely know/speak to and just in it for the referral money. I can see it both ways and I'm not going to pretend I know who's telling the truth here because I don't, but it's never reassuring to see two people bickering/disagreeing openly with one another before a site is launched, especially when it's in regards to the capability of the owner.

SuperPookie
11-30-2015, 05:03 PM
Op, while yes you did come off as a bit harsh in a few posts, please understand that everyone here WANTS you to be a huge success. Having another viable site to work on would be wonderful, we are just concerned with some issues that needed clarified before not only a expenditure of our time but our personal information, that's all. Taking the time to explain your project and answer questions on here really is important. Regardless though I wish you the best with your project and hope it does great.

GoddessLynne
12-01-2015, 02:18 AM
In the other thread, I was not trying to be rude..I was being honest. We are acquaintances but saying "friend" just seemed easier at the time. I was definitely on the same page as Patrick when we first started talking and I was giving him advice on how to get his brand out there because I know far more about marketing than he appeared to. After voicing my concerns and getting responses like the ones you've seen here, I questioned whether or not I should be representing a company with such little knowledge of the industry. I DID NOT post just to make commission off of anyone. I posted because I was ignorant to the facts and wanted to help someone that seemed like they needed it..the 10% was just a bonus incentive. If that means I flipped a 180..so be it. I am still on the website, but my promoting of it has ceased. It's nothing personal, it's just not how I do business. If all goes well, wonderful..but good intentions can only get a person so far. There were things I didn't agree with and that's all. Plenty of people have signed up regardless of what has been said here. I myself have 13 referrals (which is about 35% of all the models signed up thus far on the site) from posts on a popular fetish forum. They have the same questions there, but I'm not involving myself in the site politics anymore. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents here since there were questions regarding my connection to the website owner. I hope this has cleared up some confusion.

Also, I removed my referral link from the other post almost immediately after seeing the responses to my thread, so I'm obviously not interested in driving people to a site just for the money when I don't agree with how things are being handled thus far.

Sam38g
12-01-2015, 03:32 AM
Having a payment processor in place is extremely important.
Before even recruiting a single person.

Your friend aka facebook buddy is BS. If I vouche for anyone or recommend a company of any sort, be sure I've done my own research & vetted them. If they do post recommending a company they better be prepared to answer questions that might arise.

It is easy to call us hostile or whatever, really don't care about your feelings. This is a business, your post here is us interviewing you.

While 70% seems ideal, we all know can't be done at this point with any new cam company.
1. No wiggle room for charge backs
2. Adult payment processors are not cheap and take a hunk out of it
3. Affiliates? How are affiliates going to make money & bring traffic?

You did this to help out a friend but she didn't stay around long enough for it to launch. Market research, did you do the numbers on how many cam sites exist & the demand for what you are offering us compared to what is in place already? Going by just what one cam girl wanted isn't enough.

You pay out 70% great, we still have to get traffic & make money with our clients & social media. Plus take a huge risk with you. Right now with no risk, can mak 75% with SM from traffic I bring in. Rest of the time make 35% with traffic they have on the site. You don't have traffic on there for when girls don't have their own to bank off of.

Brave of you to persist with this thread and posting here. But you have to SELL us, just like we do when we are on cam & dealing with men who want everything for free.

If you can't handle a few questions on this site. Handling them with customers, tech support & cam performers will be overwhelming

Sam

Sam38g
12-01-2015, 03:45 AM
In the other thread, I was not trying to be rude..I was being honest. We are acquaintances but saying "friend" just seemed easier at the time. I was definitely on the same page as Patrick when we first started talking and I was giving him advice on how to get his brand out there because I know far more about marketing than he appeared to. After voicing my concerns and getting responses like the ones you've seen here, I questioned whether or not I should be representing a company with such little knowledge of the industry. I DID NOT post just to make commission off of anyone. I posted because I was ignorant to the facts and wanted to help someone that seemed like they needed it..the 10% was just a bonus incentive. If that means I flipped a 180..so be it. I am still on the website, but my promoting of it has ceased. It's nothing personal, it's just not how I do business. If all goes well, wonderful..but good intentions can only get a person so far. There were things I didn't agree with and that's all. Plenty of people have signed up regardless of what has been said here. I myself have 13 referrals (which is about 35% of all the models signed up thus far on the site) from posts on a popular fetish forum. They have the same questions there, but I'm not involving myself in the site politics anymore. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents here since there were questions regarding my connection to the website owner. I hope this has cleared up some confusion.

Also, I removed my referral link from the other post almost immediately after seeing the responses to my thread, so I'm obviously not interested in driving people to a site just for the money when I don't agree with how things are being handled thus far.

LAME

That is a LAME excuse you brag about how many already signed up. You post, want to benefit then claim not to answer questions girls had on here because you didn't have the answers? LAME

You put your rep, you vouched for this company then walk away. You are no better than any studios who sign girls up & then NEVER help them make money.

Don't care if I get banned from this site. You are LAME! Bullshit in calling it politics, it is answering questions about a company you posted about on here. I started a thread on here last year about Model Centro, answered many questions about it with NO problem at all. Didn't post a link in which I got a refferal fee either. Complete BS to call it politics when girls here had legit questions. That statement completely dismisses any question or concern people that you want to make money off of here might have.

Yes, you cleared up your intentions completely. What is clear to me is that you can't be trusted. Sadly, the guy who started this site will have to deal with that fall out. AS he should since he asked you in exchange for a 10% fee to do it.

I dont give a fuck if our question hurt someone's feelings or their integrity. I dont know either one of you, this is business. Can't stand the heat, don't walk into the kitchen.

Sam

audritwo
12-01-2015, 10:43 AM
What kind of experience does the owner have with the industry? I almost started a porn website years ago, but the capital and opportunity wasn't right. I have successful friends in the industry.

So by OP's logic, I have friends who work in oil fields, I should start up an oil company. ::)


Also if I had a friend who wanted to work in the industry, I would give them some tiny bit advice, but only a little. They are now considered competition, IMHO.

Edit to add, it looks like he is in the music business with a simple google search.

GoddessLynne
12-01-2015, 02:37 PM
LAME

That is a LAME excuse you brag about how many already signed up. You post, want to benefit then claim not to answer questions girls had on here because you didn't have the answers? LAME

You put your rep, you vouched for this company then walk away. You are no better than any studios who sign girls up & then NEVER help them make money.

Don't care if I get banned from this site. You are LAME! Bullshit in calling it politics, it is answering questions about a company you posted about on here. I started a thread on here last year about Model Centro, answered many questions about it with NO problem at all. Didn't post a link in which I got a refferal fee either. Complete BS to call it politics when girls here had legit questions. That statement completely dismisses any question or concern people that you want to make money off of here might have.

Yes, you cleared up your intentions completely. What is clear to me is that you can't be trusted. Sadly, the guy who started this site will have to deal with that fall out. AS he should since he asked you in exchange for a 10% fee to do it.

I dont give a fuck if our question hurt someone's feelings or their integrity. I dont know either one of you, this is business. Can't stand the heat, don't walk into the kitchen.

Sam

Brag? At what point was I bragging?

You must not have actually read my whole post or you just had a hard time comprehending everything I said here and in the other thread.

Since when is everyone with a referral link a representative of a company? Plenty of cam sites have referral links for their models and they ARE NOT expected to answer any questions about the sites...because that would be ridiculous. I suggest you drop the hostility and chill out. It's just a website.

Djoser
12-01-2015, 03:20 PM
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