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Exxotica
12-03-2015, 10:05 AM
So if guy a does it, it would be mysgony? My point was why should it matter who use it when it's a word that carries such connations?
I'm a Transsexual, I don't refer to myself as 'shemale' on or off cam nor I allow another Transsexual to refer to me as that because I am not that. So it wouldn't matter whether someone calling me that is a transsexual, cisgender or some random guy.
But is "shemale" a high five, giggy form of pop culture lingo? "You bitch, whore, slut!" are terms girls use amongst each other all the time in a funny, hahah kind of way and carries little weight BUT can be extremely offensive depending on whose mouth its coming from.
I'm not arguing the confusion white folks have with the "N" word considering its history, BUT I still wonder why white folks are so bothered that they can't say the word. Why, white person, do you even care to say the word? Do tell.
Exxotica
12-03-2015, 10:08 AM
I personally think it's ok to use it in a quote. It's about context, and nothing I said was racist. But even if you share that view, I get that you'd want to censor any usage of the word in this forum.
I agree. If a professor is using the word in context, while reading a novel, etc. I have no problem with it. But just the other day, this white boy got red in the face while telling a story where someone else used the word. Damn near lobster red. Clearly, some of y'all know damn well you know its not your place to use the word, but force it upon yourselves anyway. Tragic
Exxotica
12-03-2015, 10:09 AM
Also some powerful shit
http://i.imgur.com/relN6zV.png
Perhaps you should take this up with the white folks. People of color don't need to be schooled on such quotes.
luvnrockets
12-03-2015, 11:47 AM
Perhaps you should take this up with the white folks. People of color don't need to be schooled on such quotes.
I think it's reasonable to assume Bill Nye is talking, for the most part, to white folks here. He's talking to a crowd, and sometimes political correctness is the best way to get people to listen.
And I doubt Audri was trying to school black folks with her mention of his quote. I assume everyone in this thread agrees with him and knows this shit; he just articulates it nicely.
Marina Starr
12-03-2015, 12:25 PM
I don't care what it is. I can only speak for myself and 'shemale' is not okay with me in any setting nor do I engage or associate myself with those that do. There are other Transsexual who are okay with the word and that's on them. I am not here to dictate or police words.
Just as there are black folks so are okay with using and being call the N-word, that's on them.
There are girls who are okay with sluts, whore, bitches and that's on them.
I can't speak for white people because I'm Asian but I've stated on page one of this thread why I am uncomfortable with the word.
]But is "shemale" a high five, giggy form of pop culture lingo? [/B]"You bitch, whore, slut!" are terms girls use amongst each other all the time in a funny, hahah kind of way and carries little weight BUT can be extremely offensive depending on whose mouth its coming from.
I'm not arguing the confusion white folks have with the "N" word considering its history, BUT I still wonder why white folks are so bothered that they can't say the word. Why, white person, do you even care to say the word? Do tell.
loveshooks
12-04-2015, 01:39 AM
there's a really disappointing pattern that develops any time social race/racism is raised on sw:
1) deflect/passively-aggressively refute problematic words and concepts as defined by the people most negatively affected by them. case in point; women in an ostensibly support-oriented community who are most negatively impacted by racist language asking people to stop it for pages. that should not have necessitated mod involvement
2) after racist language is minimized challenge the biological reality of race without acknowledging that race is real in it's consequenses.
3) positing that, label talk of the consequences of racism as 'divisive' and bring in paralells to other axes of social positioning that have no common foundation
the end result? always: the silencing and minimizing of povs and experiences that have value, and deserve to be heard
One thing I want to point out: this thread went sideways when people refused to stop posting hate speech even after a peer request to do so. I shouldn't have even had to step in, the fact that I do so twice makes me feel ashamed to be a part of this community.
Being real here: race threads go sideways because peeps are more concerned with talking that listening to the peeps from whom they could learn the most
no mod can change that cycle. ultimately y'all decide what we want this place to be
hope you received some helpful replies OP, apologies for being exposed to our community at our worst