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DonaDiabla
12-08-2015, 02:33 PM
Thanks Dominic for your kind words :) I really do think that she was talking about extreme hustling and it was just a misuse of words. At first, I thought she should find another sugar daddy or even finsubs if he misunderstood her words. However, her hustle seems to work out for her after all.Exxotica's hustle style is not for the faint at heart because it can seem very brash and hyper brazen to a lot of people. Moreover, I have seen this hustle work for some girls and it is very effective. However, I did understand her more after she explained herself. Personally, I did not see her as trying to hustle us as the audience but she misusing some words. Totally understandable :) I do hope that Exxotica does come back and give us updates :)



I'll give Exxotica the benefit of the doubt. She writes in an informal, spoken conversational style rather than a formal style. And the misunderstanding started with her (admitted) misuse of the word shakedown. If you take that word out, the other information, such as "fuckery" and "I know his wife", can take on other meanings, as Exxotica herself clarified in follow-up posts. It is entirely (and likely) plausible she was unaware of the full meaning of the word. DonaDiabla zeroed in on that in her first post to this thread.

For example, if you substitute "extreme hustling," "don't-take-no-for-an-answer-but-do-it-sweetly hustling," or something like that for shakedown, it makes more sense. It makes even more sense since she posted it in a public forum, one that LE can read.

I'm going to attempt to apply Occam's Razor here. I think DonaDiabla saw the real message and effectively translated for us. It could be a case of misunderstanding/miscommunication rather than sophistry. Rick, we ARE talking about Exxotica here. We might go back and read her old posts in old threads. Written communication is not her strong suit (which surprises me for a SB). While she appears to be a cunning hustler, I don't get the sense that she is trying to hustle us. What do you think? I know I likely do not have your street sense (yet) when it comes to sex workers.

I am going to go back and thank the posts from Dona and Ava. Exxotica seems to agree with their interpretation. I respect Dona and Ava and that is enough for me.

SweetJulia
12-08-2015, 06:21 PM
Not to thread jack, but I'm just curious how old you are OP, since the rest of US are hating old bitties lol.

whirlerz
12-08-2015, 09:01 PM
I'm curious if she'll try to ask for still more $ @ a later time

ava$
12-08-2015, 10:12 PM
Precisely my intention and exactly how it turned out! We got thread after thread about safety concerns regarding entering strangers' homes and hotel rooms but a post about asking an ex-SD for funds gets this level of heightened paranoia? #BackwardsLogic. And I haven't back peddled anything. I said what I said which is what I said. Kisses!
LOL, I thought the same thing when I read some of the responses, some people seemed to take it way out of context but good 4 u girl u did nothing wrong by just asking all he had to do is say no if he didn't wanna give it to u…

grneyesnfl
12-09-2015, 11:34 PM
Lol. Dead at a community of women engaged in various forms of iilegal and socially unacceptable activity attempting to point fingers at their own.

Don't put me in the same category as you. I engage in no illegal activities. I'm a phone sex operator... not an extortionist.

I'm a firm believer in karma. If it doesn't get you on this occasion... it may on the next! You may want to think next time about not blasting it in a public forum that you're engaging in illegal activities. And it wasn't just a simple case of misused words. You knew exactly what you were doing and exactly what you were saying. By him "obliging" (as you said) that completes the extortion transaction. I certainly hope he contacts the authorities this time because it sounds like you will be back again and again and again. You're not going to get a lot of hustling done behind bars!

SweetJulia
12-10-2015, 12:10 AM
Don't put me in the same category as you. I engage in no illegal activities. I'm a phone sex operator... not an extortionate.
What she said.

absolutelyadorable
12-10-2015, 08:51 AM
Don't put me in the same category as you. I engage in no illegal activities. I'm a phone sex operator... not an extortionist.

Same here.

Exxotica
12-10-2015, 11:06 AM
Don't put me in the same category as you. I engage in no illegal activities. I'm a phone sex operator... not an extortionist.

I'm a firm believer in karma. If it doesn't get you on this occasion... it may on the next! You may want to think next time about not blasting it in a public forum that you're engaging in illegal activities.

Your a PSO on a thread with women who do in fact engage in various illegal activities so check yourself for acting as if you're better than the rest. P.S- I don't believe in karma so its like preaching to an agnostic. Poof, be gone

Exxotica
12-10-2015, 11:10 AM
I'll give Exxotica the benefit of the doubt. She writes in an informal, spoken conversational style rather than a formal style. And the misunderstanding started with her (admitted) misuse of the word shakedown. If you take that word out, the other information, such as "fuckery" and "I know his wife", can take on other meanings, as Exxotica herself clarified in follow-up posts. It is entirely (and likely) plausible she was unaware of the full meaning of the word. DonaDiabla zeroed in on that in her first post to this thread.

For example, if you substitute "extreme hustling," "don't-take-no-for-an-answer-but-do-it-sweetly hustling," or something like that for shakedown, it makes more sense. It makes even more sense since she posted it in a public forum, one that LE can read.

I'm going to attempt to apply Occam's Razor here. I think DonaDiabla saw the real message and effectively translated for us. It could be a case of misunderstanding/miscommunication rather than sophistry. Rick, we ARE talking about Exxotica here. We might go back and read her old posts in old threads. Written communication is not her strong suit (which surprises me for a SB). While she appears to be a cunning hustler, I don't get the sense that she is trying to hustle us. What do you think? I know I likely do not have your street sense (yet) when it comes to sex workers.

I am going to go back and thank the posts from Dona and Ava. Exxotica seems to agree with their interpretation. I respect Dona and Ava and that is enough for me.

I think my written communication fits this space just fine. But thanks! Anyway, I got my money which sure beats having to see these creepers this holiday season. Happy hustling ladies!

rickdugan
12-10-2015, 04:13 PM
The sad thing is that she believes that shaking down a chump for a few bucks qualifies as good hustling and a strong game. ;)

I've been doing this for a long time and the SB types who I've known had real skills and didn't need to play high risk games for peanuts. They also didn't walk away from long term SD gigs with nothing in their pockets but a blackmail angle, but rather exited with cash and other assets (cars, jewelry, etc.). They had real skills. They could drain a guy for large sums of money and then leave him feeling sorry for not having yet more to give. They also knew how to gracefully disengage when things were winding down with one guy and to start lining up the next payday.

This, on the other hand, was just a cheap con that could have been run by any backpage escort with a camera phone and a little intel. Worse though, it was being run on a guy who got away with shorting his commitments for 2 years while he was still getting the goods. Idk, maybe the girls who I've known who had great skills started out stumbling around and extorting dudes for pocket change like Exxotica is, but a strong SB game this is most certainly not, lol.

NoRegrets
12-10-2015, 06:56 PM
I've been doing this for a long time and the SB types who I've known had real skills and didn't need to play high risk games for peanuts. They also didn't walk away from long term SD gigs with nothing in their pockets but a blackmail angle, but rather exited with cash and other assets (cars, jewelry, etc.). They had real skills. They could drain a guy for large sums of money and then leave him feeling sorry for not having yet more to give. They also knew how to gracefully disengage when things were winding down with one guy and to start lining up the next payday.

Large sums of money is a relative term but I agree the skilled girls walk away very happy and don't need to resort to tricks once it ends. Perhaps my view of sugar babies is skewed. I've been lucky to mostly deal with the ones you describe. As a hustle goes it's hard to feel taken for a ride. You agree to an amount up front and anything extra (gifts, trips, etc) is optional. If she makes you happy you give more. It's just like in a strip club, you tip for good service. Normally when it's over everyone is happy. Even if you're sad that it ends, you don't feel ripped off.


Worse though, it was being run on a guy who got away with shorting his commitments for 2 years while he was still getting the goods.

I don't understand. Didn't her sponsor pay her for the 2 years they were together? How was he shorting her?

grneyesnfl
12-10-2015, 07:00 PM
Your a PSO on a thread with women who do in fact engage in various illegal activities so check yourself for acting as if you're better than the rest. P.S- I don't believe in karma so its like preaching to an agnostic. Poof, be gone

The only category I ever read is the "OTHER" category which includes PSO threads and that's where I found your post. Even though it had nothing to do with phone sex work, I had to reply because I was utterly appalled. And yes... I am better than you. I have a conscience, morals and self-respect. You apparently have none of those things.

It doesn't matter whether you believe in karma or not. Karma believes in you... and it will find you.

rickdugan
12-10-2015, 07:19 PM
I don't understand. Didn't her sponsor pay her for the 2 years they were together? How was he shorting her?

NR, she posted this, which I took at face value:


There were agreements on the table he didn't follow through with and I wasn't about to let him exit without fulfilling his end of the deal.

NoRegrets
12-10-2015, 08:45 PM
NR, she posted this, which I took at face value:

There were agreements on the table he didn't follow through with and I wasn't about to let him exit without fulfilling his end of the deal.

I figured that was for the first time she hit him up for money. That's why he paid her but said not to contact him again. Seemed like they both agreed all debts were paid at that time. In any event, as a sponsor she's definitely someone to avoid.

threlayer
12-15-2015, 09:14 PM
It's not over until it's over. And then it's really OVER.

Exxotica
12-17-2015, 08:18 PM
It doesn't matter whether you believe in karma or not. Karma believes in you... and it will find you.

LMAO!

Exxotica
12-17-2015, 08:20 PM
The sad thing is that she believes that shaking down a chump for a few bucks qualifies as good hustling and a strong game. ;)

I've been doing this for a long time and the SB types who I've known had real skills and didn't need to play high risk games for peanuts. They also didn't walk away from long term SD gigs with nothing in their pockets but a blackmail angle, but rather exited with cash and other assets (cars, jewelry, etc.). They had real skills. They could drain a guy for large sums of money and then leave him feeling sorry for not having yet more to give. They also knew how to gracefully disengage when things were winding down with one guy and to start lining up the next payday.

This, on the other hand, was just a cheap con that could have been run by any backpage escort with a camera phone and a little intel. Worse though, it was being run on a guy who got away with shorting his commitments for 2 years while he was still getting the goods. Idk, maybe the girls who I've known who had great skills started out stumbling around and extorting dudes for pocket change like Exxotica is, but a strong SB game this is most certainly not, lol.

LOL! Yea, you got me figured out. Sidenote, its great to be on a site known to house seasoned, career sex workers. In America, at that

grneyesnfl
12-19-2015, 01:02 AM
43667

BombshellBelle
12-21-2015, 01:51 PM
I'm going to give homegirl the benefit of the doubt on this. I think she could have used better language, but we are all guilty of that at some point.

OP, There is a chapter in Ho Tactics that covers getting $$$ from an ex-bf or former sd. Consider getting a copy of the book on amazon. It taught me quite a bit.

Best of luck to you!

Exxotica
12-27-2015, 03:36 PM
I'm going to give homegirl the benefit of the doubt on this. I think she could have used better language, but we are all guilty of that at some point.

OP, There is a chapter in Ho Tactics that covers getting $$$ from an ex-bf or former sd. Consider getting a copy of the book on amazon. It taught me quite a bit.

Best of luck to you!

thanks!!!

Exxotica
12-27-2015, 03:37 PM
43667

Le sigh.. trying to convince someone that karma is actually a thing is like trying to drag an agnostic to Church. Try again

gameover
12-27-2015, 08:57 PM
P.S- I don't believe in karma so its like preaching to an agnostic. Poof, be gone


Le sigh.. trying to convince someone that karma is actually a thing is like trying to drag an agnostic to Church. Try again

I don't think you understand what agnostic means. An agnostic doesn't know whether God exists or not. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in God.

So, your statement would actually mean that you don't know whether karma exists or not. Not that it doesn't.

By the way, just because you don't believe in something, doesn't mean it can't affect you. You may not believe that gravity exists, but if you walk off of a cliff, that doesn't mean it still won't kill you.

whirlerz
12-28-2015, 06:29 PM
Well, I did learn something here myself..I kinda considered getting w/an attached guy, so far I haven't. I'd be really wary of doing so, things could blow up for the outside chick.

Exxotica
12-30-2015, 05:29 PM
By the way, just because you don't believe in something, doesn't mean it can't affect you. You may not believe that gravity exists, but if you walk off of a cliff, that doesn't mean it still won't kill you.

You're comparing gravity to religious and/or spiritual belief systems? I don't have to believe in karma anymore than a person has to believe in God. Preach to someone who cares.

absolutelyadorable
01-07-2016, 10:05 AM
Ok we get it, you don't believe in karma. Good for you.
But you never considered this: you basically threatened this man with going to his wife so that he would give you your little money. How do you know he's not looking for a way to, um, eliminate his problem? Will it be worth having to look over your shoulder all the time waiting for him to come after you? Lol. Hope you had fun on your shopping spree though.

Exxotica
01-16-2016, 06:19 PM
Ok we get it, you don't believe in karma. Good for you.
But you never considered this: you basically threatened this man with going to his wife so that he would give you your little money. How do you know he's not looking for a way to, um, eliminate his problem? Will it be worth having to look over your shoulder all the time waiting for him to come after you? Lol. Hope you had fun on your shopping spree though.

Ok, bye