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SweetJulia
03-31-2016, 02:38 PM
^I love how they call girls names for NOT getting naked, fucking them, etc..

KittieVenom
03-31-2016, 11:07 PM
They call you names no matter what you do. I can't endure the abuse and the cheapness from the members anymore. I think there's so much that has to be done for this site to appeal to American girls. Plus "stick out the abuse until people start to like you" is't good advice. Cam girls have thick skin but when I go into other girls' rooms and see the shit the members are saying, it just sickens me. You'll get a bit of that on any cam site but not to this degree. It would be different if there was mad bank being made but cam girls are people and we work hard as hell. Props to anyone who can make this site work but I can't hear "goth whore" and "crackhead" and "stupid slut" every 10 minutes anymore.

Dorothea
03-31-2016, 11:46 PM
I was called whore a couple of times for not wanting to do stuff free. Was also called a golddigger. But majority of the things they call me are awesome : beautiful, out of this world , perfect, amazing, best boobs, magical, too beautiful to be true, most beautiful woman in the world...in fact i often log on because of this.
But...I also consider words such as "whore" a compliment on a camsite. The real bad word is "you are so nice". Because whore means simply you did not allow a dude to snow you. "You are so nice" means the opposite.
i need to add that all the compliments I mentioned above were attached to tips and gifts therefore is one reason that makes me return to bonga
i know am above average beautiful but love guys telling me this...on mfc i needed to be also intelligent into games and constant entertaining of pea brains but on bonga my beauty seems to be enough for guys
so no...I actually have to say bonga has a lot of guys who give compliments - the bad stuff is much less for me there- been called weird stuff on mfc : "rude" was one of them. That was after I told a member to pls leave my room and return only with tokens (that was his third visit with empty wallet).
my wall on bonga is plastered with all kind of compliements and actual poetry from guys.they make me feel great so I keep coming back
I had more rude people at the beginning but it seems to mellow over time as I become more popular with more lovers and friends

sexysusie
04-01-2016, 06:46 AM
Aww, I apologised and they let me back on. I guess I'll give it one more try and be a good girl ;)

KatM
04-01-2016, 07:39 AM
^^^ You naughty girl ;)

sexysusie
04-01-2016, 07:44 AM
And I got my $47.

KatM
04-01-2016, 07:55 AM
^^^ Cool, u see, sometimes u better let a little space for return when leaving, that little gate has to be unlocked cause u never know when u going to need it ;)
Good luck, for me it looks like token sites are just not my style so i stick to SM where i did great for my last shift.
People on bonga are good & helpful people same like Liz on SM, it's just impossible to run a site where everyone has success on and all models are happy, for each of us there is the right environment to cam in; maybe bongacams changes in time for the better cause if they make some good changes i'll return. Good luck everyone xx

sexysusie
04-01-2016, 09:25 AM
They chose my story (shoe on head) yay :) could everyone vote please? http://bongamodels.com/news/330#news-330 xxx

anonymous camgirl
04-02-2016, 06:22 PM
Really? They don't call me names.. I wonder why?




They call you names no matter what you do. I can't endure the abuse and the cheapness from the members anymore. I think there's so much that has to be done for this site to appeal to American girls. Plus "stick out the abuse until people start to like you" is't good advice. Cam girls have thick skin but when I go into other girls' rooms and see the shit the members are saying, it just sickens me. You'll get a bit of that on any cam site but not to this degree. It would be different if there was mad bank being made but cam girls are people and we work hard as hell. Props to anyone who can make this site work but I can't hear "goth whore" and "crackhead" and "stupid slut" every 10 minutes anymore.

sexysusie
04-02-2016, 06:53 PM
I don't get called names either, but then i don't tend to pay them much heed on there. Just a little update now after my first shift back and trying something different - Bonga guys respond really well to tip activated toys :) As per usual they seemed to have no clue they had to tip specific amounts to make things happen, and they completely ignored my topic, but just having the #lovense #ohmibod tags in there and having the toy next to me and keep referring to it really got them going. As usual the 1 token tippers, over and over.. but there were lots of them, and a few bigger tippers and some short privates. Definitely my best shift on Bonga thus far. For me the money was not good, but for Bonga standards and what I've earned there before it was excellent. So there is hope!

Dorothea
04-02-2016, 08:40 PM
I am really not sure at all why some models insist on any intellectual topics on token sites. I never put any - is like all these topics and games and raffles take away from true purpose of camsites which to me is digital romance and a hard penis and I really don't think that raffles and games are a good mix with hard on and if some girls are gonna try to make bonga into another mfc you will ruin the place. So please save your topics and intellect and be happy bonga guys don't read stuff. Biggest tips i got when i put zero topics for them. Too much intellectual kills the vibe of camsites.on mfc i got freeloader assholes with ebt cards in daily life and on welfare who never tip for dick but have input in topics and discussions and think now is some kind of helpful just cause topics are big on mfc...if they only put that time into earning actual dollar so they can tip me...
I kicked all these freeloaders out of my room on mfc but new are coming every day.On bonga I found some good digital romance and would like to keep it that way.Am not looking for intellectual stimulation when on bonga and neither are any of my lovers who give me gifts.

FreakyFranky
04-02-2016, 10:36 PM
^ My personal opinion is that no one's TRYING to make bonga into something it's not, just trying to figure out the best way to make money but the intellectual angle works well for some women, maybe not for you, but I've found that it's one of my key features that attracts customers... Maybe not SPECIFICALLY on Bonga, but I wouldn't say to anyone DONT try this, DONT try that cuz we don't want to kill this site's atmosphere, but more, TRY EVERYTHING to figure out what works specifically for YOU cuz every cam girl is different and even though we don't give them enough credit, every custie really is too.

Just saying. Don't NOT play games or be intellectual or do WHATEVER if that's your hustle just cuz it doesn't work for someone else!

sexysusie
04-03-2016, 03:14 AM
If you think having a topic on token sites is 'intellectual' you got problems! Oh and news flash - there's a topic box on Bonga for a reason LMAO.

Guys there need to be trained by the models how thrtthey should act. Like on any camsite that is good business sense. And new camsites grow and develop with the ideas of their models. Bonga has the potential the be a decent side site for western models, but some shaping by them is definitely needed because otherwise your 'hard penis guys' will continue to sit and jack off for free or their endless 1 token at a time. And that my dear is fine if theyre home alone on their own time, but when theyre in my room and taking up my time it's time to play by MY rules!;)

hyori
04-03-2016, 04:39 AM
I like to discuss astrophysics and thermodynamics while guys rain tips on me to set off my interactive toys. Would that be considered too intellectual? :D

ArynAdams
04-03-2016, 04:18 PM
I like the headlines, but that's why I like token sites, too. I like to talk and play, I like variety, and it gives the room direction. I feel like they understand the headlines less on bonga, or pay attention to them less. But... the guys who like the headlines and the raffles and games will find the models who use them, the guys who don't will find the models who don't.

Kitcatt
04-03-2016, 04:23 PM
I am really not sure at all why some models insist on any intellectual topics on token sites. I never put any - is like all these topics and games and raffles take away from true purpose of camsites which to me is digital romance and a hard penis and I really don't think that raffles and games are a good mix with hard on and if some girls are gonna try to make bonga into another mfc you will ruin the place. So please save your topics and intellect and be happy bonga guys don't read stuff. Biggest tips i got when i put zero topics for them. Too much intellectual kills the vibe of camsites.on mfc i got freeloader assholes with ebt cards in daily life and on welfare who never tip for dick but have input in topics and discussions and think now is some kind of helpful just cause topics are big on mfc...if they only put that time into earning actual dollar so they can tip me...
I kicked all these freeloaders out of my room on mfc but new are coming every day.On bonga I found some good digital romance and would like to keep it that way.Am not looking for intellectual stimulation when on bonga and neither are any of my lovers who give me gifts.

Whaaa???

LustyLark
04-03-2016, 08:42 PM
They chose my story (shoe on head) yay :) could everyone vote please? http://bongamodels.com/news/330#news-330 xxx

I voted for you <3

anonymous camgirl
04-06-2016, 09:05 AM
NO chargebacks huh? I received this from Admin:

Hello, we would like to inform you that the member co754, who has tipped you 50 tokensб was banned due to using a stolen card. Unfortunately, we will need to make a refund of those tokens to the rightful owner of the card.

I asked why? I thought there were no chargebacks?


I thought there were no more chargebacks to the girls?









19:02:42

Admin-9

Admin-9

That's correct. But this case is not a chargeback. A chargeback is when a person pays, and then requests a refund via bank.

BustyVixen
04-06-2016, 11:52 AM
So someone committed credit card fraud and they are penalizing you for it? Am I understanding this correctly?

sexysusie
04-06-2016, 11:54 AM
NO chargebacks huh? I received this from Admin:

Hello, we would like to inform you that the member co754, who has tipped you 50 tokensб was banned due to using a stolen card. Unfortunately, we will need to make a refund of those tokens to the rightful owner of the card.

I asked why? I thought there were no chargebacks?


I thought there were no more chargebacks to the girls?









19:02:42

Admin-9

Admin-9

That's correct. But this case is not a chargeback. A chargeback is when a person pays, and then requests a refund via bank.

Oh holy fuck no, not again??!! I thought they finally understood that they CAN NOT do that if they say they don't do refunds or chargebacks?

Just spent an hour on there and earned more than on SM so was keeping my hopes up for it as a side site again. Fuck! Hope they pay you back/ don'#t take it. Knobheads!!

Holly_xoxo
04-06-2016, 12:45 PM
NO chargebacks huh? I received this from Admin:

Hello, we would like to inform you that the member co754, who has tipped you 50 tokensб was banned due to using a stolen card. Unfortunately, we will need to make a refund of those tokens to the rightful owner of the card.

I asked why? I thought there were no chargebacks?


I thought there were no more chargebacks to the girls?









19:02:42

Admin-9

Admin-9

That's correct. But this case is not a chargeback. A chargeback is when a person pays, and then requests a refund via bank.

That's ridiculous! Not your fault it was stolen and they want to take back 2.50$ ? They can't at least let you keep that?!!

Magical_Hoohah
04-06-2016, 05:54 PM
But this case is not a chargeback. A chargeback is when a person pays, and then requests a refund via bank.
Um... what?! If that's what they think a chargeback is, then their "no chargeback" policy is basically meaningless.

Your bank/credit card can get your money back if your card was stolen or fraudulently used by someone else; or a company direct debited you without authorization, for example if you cancelled your subscription to something and they kept billing you and refuse to stop; or in some cases, if a business clearly rips you off by refusing to send something you ordered or honor their returns policy on a defective item. Aside from a stolen card situation, your bank will also ask you to do everything possible to get a sketchy business to resolve the matter on their own before they do a chargeback.

You can't just contact your bank or credit card company and say "Hey, so I told these people that they could bill my card, but I've changed my mind, so get the money back from them. Thanks!" That's not a real thing, and if you try that shit, you're on a short path to losing your credit card or bank account. So if "No chargebacks" = "We won't take your tokens if someone calls their credit card and requests their money back for no particular reason," then Bonga really means "We protect you from something so rare that it's basically fictional, because even if a dude tried that, his credit card isn't going to comply with his request."

In real life, refund means "a dude contacts the site and says he isn't happy and wants his money back," and chargeback means "a dude contacts his credit card and tells them that his card was stolen, and the credit company believes him and takes the money back from the site." Bonga seems to have completely different definitions, which they really ought to make clear if they are going to claim to cover refunds and chargebacks. Interestingly, the last time there was an issue, the site reps insisted that they DO cover refunds, they just don't cover those pesky situations where a guy doesn't like what happened in paid chat and requests his money back, which apparently is something different than a refund. /:O And here are some quotes from Olga during that fiasco:

Let's begin with the fact that the website covers ALL chargebacks and refunds that are made due to fraud and ANY payment disputes that result in money refunds.

I would like to point out that this is not the case of fraud activity or any other payment dispute which resulted in returning of the money to the member's credit card. If that was the case then no token refund were to take place.
AC's current situation sounds like EXACTLY the sort of "chargeback due to fraud" that Olga said they would cover. But if they somehow manage to twist those quotes into some meaning that none of us anticipated, I think it's safe to assume that their TOS and model agreement have nothing to do with camming at all, and if you look carefully, you can interpret them as a long essay about why cheese is delicious and instructions for installing a ceiling fan, respectively.

sexysusie
04-06-2016, 07:25 PM
^^ Which is pretty much what we all thought to begin with when they kept defending their "no chargebacks or refunds policy" with ridiculously vague wording. But we gave them a chance due to repeated reassurances that all was ok, and now they go and do it again??

What's the saying - "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

TheBrownFox
04-06-2016, 07:43 PM
So someone committed credit card fraud and they are penalizing you for it? Am I understanding this correctly?


It happens. Not to take away from anonymous camgirl's situation, but this same thing happened to me on MyFreeCams a long time ago. I got a chargeback of 1,000 motherfucking tokens. MFC ruled it as "credit card fraud" and banned that particular member's account. And I was out 1,000 tokens...meaning that I basically just did a free show and gave out free content when you think about it. People always talk about how there aren't any chargebacks on MyFreeCams, but it does happen every once in a while, sadly...

Hugs, anonymous camgirl.

sexysusie
04-06-2016, 08:35 PM
Ya but Bonga have SPECIFICALLY stated they do not do refunds or chargebacks, they've even been here and on ACF defending that statement.

GeezLouise
04-07-2016, 02:36 AM
They sound dodgy as fuck, claiming they cover CC chargebacks and then not following up on that.

BustyVixen
04-07-2016, 05:56 AM
I wasn't going to ever use my account in there after I realized that I can't charge what I want for private shows and how you ladies say the guys are horribly cheap and rude. I make enough money on Streamate not to deal with that bullshit. But now after reading this, Bonga is full of crap and I won't touch them with a ten foot pole.

TheBrownFox
04-07-2016, 07:05 AM
Ya but Bonga have SPECIFICALLY stated they do not do refunds or chargebacks, they've even been here and on ACF defending that statement.


Yes, I know.

hyori
04-07-2016, 09:06 AM
Chaturbate is also guilty of taking back earnings from a fraudulent credit card although their limit is much higher than $2.50. I believe it is around $200. So I don't really know what's worse. I do make sure on CB that if I get a new whale, I don't cash out until I clear it with Shirley that the guy is for real. I guess with Bonga it will be the same but I didn't think I would have to do it for an amount that wouldn't even get me a good cup of coffee.

audritwo
04-07-2016, 09:27 AM
NO chargebacks huh? I received this from Admin:

Hello, we would like to inform you that the member co754, who has tipped you 50 tokensб was banned due to using a stolen card. Unfortunately, we will need to make a refund of those tokens to the rightful owner of the card.

I asked why? I thought there were no chargebacks?


I thought there were no more chargebacks to the girls?









19:02:42

Admin-9

Admin-9

That's correct. But this case is not a chargeback. A chargeback is when a person pays, and then requests a refund via bank.


This is probably the most retarded thing I've read all day.


"Hello, we would like to inform you that the member co754, who has tipped you 50 tokensб was banned due to using a stolen card. Unfortunately, we will need to make a refund of those tokens to the rightful owner of the card." This is the definition of chargeback. Like come on Bonga, be honest. "We will protect you from some chargebacks." Even though majority of chargebacks are due to fraudulent charges.

Heather7679
04-07-2016, 02:28 PM
Whoooo hooo ..... $761 dollars so far today and drum roll please...... $8 was from Bonga, being on the first and second rows. If this keeps up I am out. lol

Heather7679
04-07-2016, 02:31 PM
But seeing as i refuse to fuck myself in free chat for 2.5 cents, I can kind of see why this site is not working for me. lol

Blovely
04-07-2016, 02:45 PM
Whoooo hooo ..... $761 dollars so far today and drum roll please...... $8 was from Bonga, being on the first and second rows. If this keeps up I am out. lol
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--tdN2gaxnmM/Uv32Eh7jS1I/AAAAAAAAAa8/JHNY5v6eKp0/w426-h239/tumblr_mxzbfbpg3a1qm88uwo1_500.gif

sexysusie
04-07-2016, 02:45 PM
lmao for a moment I thought you were saying you made all that on Bonga!! Ha, it's not so terrible. I have actually made more there than on SM in the last couple of days so there is something to be said for it ;)

Heather7679
04-07-2016, 02:59 PM
lmao for a moment I thought you were saying you made all that on Bonga!! Ha, it's not so terrible. I have actually made more there than on SM in the last couple of days so there is something to be said for it ;)

LORD no! If i had to depend on Bonga I would be eating off the dollar menu every day! lol

audritwo
04-07-2016, 11:19 PM
LORD no! If i had to depend on Bonga I would be eating off the dollar menu every day! lol



https://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/DqT7eA.gif

Heather7679
04-08-2016, 10:05 AM
https://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/DqT7eA.gif

The oprah meme just literally made me laugh out loud . thanks audri : )

sexysusie
04-08-2016, 10:23 AM
Most are silent about their cheapness but one genius today said "1 token for boobs?". I actualky spat my coffee out laughing. In my topic ive got specially reduced flash rates for this cheapo site and a tit flash is only 40 tokens. Oh dear me onr wonders how they feed and clothe themselves.

anonymous camgirl
04-11-2016, 05:39 AM
I charge the same as I do for ALL sites as they all get to see boobs for free if someone tips the full amount I ask for on any given site I am on.. the reason is because I am often times getting tips for flashing on the other sites even if it's just a few tokens or a few dollars .. so that $10 Flash is worth even more for me.



Most are silent about their cheapness but one genius today said "1 token for boobs?". I actualky spat my coffee out laughing. In my topic ive got specially reduced flash rates for this cheapo site and a tit flash is only 40 tokens. Oh dear me onr wonders how they feed and clothe themselves.

SweetJulia
04-11-2016, 05:53 AM
Wow-they really can't spare $2.50 to mend what's left of their reputation? Olga, I'm just curious, how do you define chargebacks?

anonymous camgirl
04-11-2016, 07:19 AM
Now they give me back the money! for that stolen cc.. I don't think they really know what they are doing..

we send you back 50 Tokens, that was took from your Account 06.04.2016 mistakenly. BongaCams heartily apologize for this accident.

SweetJulia
04-11-2016, 07:46 AM
How obnoxious, at least you got the money back. Not to threadjack, but who uses a stolen card to spend five dollars? Welcome to BongaCams, where even the thieves are cheap.

sexysusie
04-11-2016, 08:09 AM
Glad to hear AC!

hyori
04-11-2016, 10:25 AM
http://i.imgur.com/26t1nCP.jpg

Lintilla
04-11-2016, 02:52 PM
Wow-they really can't spare $2.50 to mend what's left of their reputation? Olga, I'm just curious, how do you define chargebacks?


Their definition includes credit card fraud. Here's the text from the news update they made in January:


Great News! From Now On BongaCams Is Free From Chargebacks And Refunds!
Dear models!

You will never have to deal with chargebacks and refunds ever again!
Unlike most other cam sites, we always try to keep your best interests in mind.

This is why we’ve decided to provide our models with full protection against all chargebacks and refunds, regardless of the cause!
This way, you won’t lose any money even due to legitimate chargebacks (fraud, payment with a stolen credit card, identity theft etc.).

We’ve got you covered no matter what!
Now you can just focus on your shows and let us take care of the rest!

I'm glad the money was returned, but I'd still like to hear from somebody from the site. Why is this still happening in the first place, what is being done to educate your support team on the issue, and how do we trust that this model wasn't refunded only because she mentioned what had happened publicly? What happens to models who don't know about the supposed "no chargebacks or refunds" policy? I wonder how many of them might have this happen to them and not get their money back since they won't make a stink?

I don't think I've ever posted on this site before, despite making an account ages ago. But I had to chime in here to ask WTF, because I'd really like to see a public response about this.

audritwo
04-11-2016, 06:03 PM
I'm glad the money was returned, but I'd still like to hear from somebody from the site. Why is this still happening in the first place, what is being done to educate your support team on the issue, and how do we trust that this model wasn't refunded only because she mentioned what had happened publicly? What happens to models who don't know about the supposed "no chargebacks or refunds" policy? I wonder how many of them might have this happen to them and not get their money back since they won't make a stink?

I don't think I've ever posted on this site before, despite making an account ages ago. But I had to chime in here to ask WTF, because I'd really like to see a public response about this.

I agree. This is freaking ridiculous.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-11-2016, 06:26 PM
Soooo as it turns out Bonga Cams really is that bad?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-11-2016, 06:30 PM
I signed up maybe 2 years ago because i noticed there wasnt anyone on there like me so I thought why not. But I only streamed once. I just don't like guys throwing pennies at me or a site that allows them to. I never got as far as the chargeback no chargeback policy.

Olga BongaCams
04-12-2016, 04:59 AM
Now they give me back the money! for that stolen cc.. I don't think they really know what they are doing..

we send you back 50 Tokens, that was took from your Account 06.04.2016 mistakenly. BongaCams heartily apologize for this accident.

I found out, that refund was did by mistake one of support team operator and Bonga have returned 50 Tokens back to you with apologies. This was just a human factor.
I would like to confirm once again that there is no chargebacks and refunds for Models on BongaCams as well.

Dear models, if you will run into any problems, please don’t hesitate to send BongaCams a letter with all the details at:
https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support/email
All complaints will be handled individually and justice will always prevail. Trust me. :yes:

anonymous camgirl
04-12-2016, 08:11 AM
Thanks for your reply Olga!


I found out, that refund was did by mistake one of support team operator and Bonga have returned 50 Tokens back to you with apologies. This was just a human factor.
I would like to confirm once again that there is no chargebacks and refunds for Models on BongaCams as well.

Dear models, if you will run into any problems, please don’t hesitate to send BongaCams a letter with all the details at:
https://ru.bongacams.com/contact-support/email
All complaints will be handled individually and justice will always prevail. Trust me. :yes: