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SoloDesire
04-21-2017, 05:49 AM
Well after reading that mess, I damn sure won't ever work on this site! I will also be sure to warn other ladies as well! And you STILL won't address the fact that you're breaking the law with your "contract". What a bunch of crooks!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-21-2017, 06:16 AM
Hello ladies,

Rules are rules like everywhere else. The information about fines has been written. I will kindly remind you that a model can't get fined for no reason and the fine can be given only after the warnings. The Terms (https://bongamodels.com/terms)are open for everyone on BongaModels. It's highly recommended to read the terms carefully in order to avoid any misunderstandings. You can find the company details there too so there is no secret. Lots of the issues models can have are very individual and it's quite difficult to help them out here on the forum and it's not an official support channel. If you still have questions about rules/fines, please do not hesitate to contact BongaCams Team and they will gladly help you and reply all the questions you are interested in.

May you have a kind day!

You guys at Bonga are so silly. I had more words for this thread but then I remembered that stripperweb is indexed and what's said here will last for eternity, it's all here for everyone to see:) Therefore any sensible cammodel with google will know that BongaCams powered by Beronata Services Ltd is a camsite for camgirls who arbitrarily fines independent contractors. Have a nice day!

Snowy0Star
04-21-2017, 06:18 AM
Ppl won't change unless they want to and are ready when they're site is falling apart and they're not pulling the numbers they want maybe then they'll learn but by then it will be too late because nobody worth having will work on the site because they've proven they can't be trusted. You can't run a succusful cam site on desperate cheap performers fucking for pennies.

They're business model isn't one that will survive and reading this thread is a literary train wreck

ScarlettHarlott
04-21-2017, 02:43 PM
Hello porcelaingirl,

Thank you for your comment. We would like to reassure you that there are plenty of good and generous members besides the beggars you mentioned in your post. Every day there come more and more users from all over the world to spend money on watching our beauties :) Models are free to set an amount of tokens they would like to get for their shows. Moreover, it's possible to ignore the users you don't want to see in your chat room. Thank you for your interest in a VIP Show. If you have already contacted our , then I can promise you that your request has been taken into account. Our managers usually contact models and invite them to take part in a VIP Show.

What a complete load of shit!!! I tried bonga for the first time the other day and I was direct messaged by someone claiming to be Admin. I contacted support asking why my earnings were not there for participating in your promotional event and they replied that I was scammed. What's worse it they also replied that I was on my own and to just block the individual! So impersonating a bonga cams Administrator and abusing models is perfectly acceptable behavior for guests as long as the only victim is the model. Any other site would have banned the guest because impersonating a company representative, fraud and abuse is a big fucking deal!

Here is the reply I wrote back, and yes, I have went public with this.

"To repeat what I have already informed you, I had a person enter my room, claiming to be from the BongaCams Admin and Promo Department. I’ve copied the entire conversation because it’s quite evident that this was not some improvisation. This person used very calculated language and spoke in such rapid succession that I find it incredibly hard to believe that this wasn’t thoughtfully prepared. If so, then it is highly unlikely that this has not happened before. Have you received similar complaints from new models in the past? When I first contacted support (13 April 2017 20:38 GMT) I was initially inquiring why I had not received any earnings having fulfilled my obligations by participating in your promotional event. I informed you that I was direct messaged by someone claiming to be a representative of your company. One would think that impersonating a BongaCams Administrator would be a serious infraction but as nothing has been done and his account is still active I guess that is just not the case.

I am a female dominant and even though this was my first time on BongaCam, it certainly wasn’t my first time on cam or in front of an audience as I’m featured in over 50 titles. I have no qualms about showing my body, I’m all over the internet already and I often chose to use my sexuality as a way to reward my guests (who tend to be submissive) when they demonstrate obedient service. However none of that is relevant because the key point here is that it is by my choice because I am able to make an informed decision! When I am deprived of that ability to choose because I was manipulated into thinking that I was participating in an official BongaCams Monthly Awards Incentive than I was clearly not making an informed decision. That may not be something that's of importance for BongaCams, but believe me when I tell you that INFORMED CONSENT is very important everywhere else in the Adult Industry. If that shit was pulled by a Production and Licensing Studio, a crime would have been committed and someone would very likely end up in Prison.

I will let people draw their own conclusions as to what they believe really happened here and what they think is a more probable story. The way I see it there are really only two possibilities that would explain what happened. The wording was too precise and it happened so quickly that I don’t believe any reasonable person will conclude that this was just some random horny guest making this up as he went along. I also fail to see what motivation a guest would have to execute such an elaborate con job. For one thing 300 tokens is not a lot of money and is the standard price on BongaCams for any 10 minute private chat. Secondly, impersonating a representative of a Cam site would normally be a sure fire way of getting banned for life and losing whatever credits they have. There are many other models who do naked shows in public on this site, and as fantastic as my pussy may be, it simply makes no sense that this was done by a random guest because they risk far more than they would gain, and it seems like a hell of a lot of work to accomplish very little. Now this may not be the case, but in my mind, the only beneficiaries for a stunt like this would be BongaCams themselves. Which is precisely what this perpetrator said, I Quote.

“THE BONGA VIP ZONE OFFER IS DESIGNED TO GIVE NEW MODELS THEIR FIRST CHANCE TO BE NAKED IN PUBLIC CHAT. WE DO IT SO THAT YOU CAN RELAX KNOWING THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE UP TO 3OO TOKENS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR A PAYING MEMBER. WE WILL GUIDE YOU. WE WANT ALL OUR MODELS TO BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.

WE KNOW IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR A NEW MODEL IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS SO WE TRY TO HELP YOU WITH SPECIAL OFFERS”

This does seem like it would be a very effective means of breaking in new Chat Hosts does it not? When a guest visits BongaCams for the first time, I would imagine that the conversion ratio for them registering would be directly affected by the number of fully nude models visible in the live broadcast thumbnails that they can see on their landing page. One could certainly see why any Cam site that operates under a similar business model as BongaCams would want to implement an initiative like this. If the result is a better conversion ratio than it also means increased profits, and isn’t making more money not all the motivation one would really need?

If this was an actual promotional incentive offered by BongaCams I personally wouldn’t have had any issue with it. I did make the decision to participate when I believed that it actually was. However BongaCams would have to actually put it on paper that this is in fact their policy, because that way I would have been in a position to exercise informed consent. There would have been absolutely nothing wrong if that were actually the case. Now I’m not a lawyer, but I would imagine that there may be legal considerations which prevent all “free chat” cam sites from adopting such a policy. Some may interpret such a policy as predatory for instance. Or maybe it would make recruiting new models much more difficult. Perhaps it would be a difficult position to defend if one’s model recruitment initiatives said things like“be your own boss, you get to choose what you feel comfortable doing in your show, It’s up to you whether or not you get naked”, if said business then employed high pressure tactics to coerce the model to get fully naked and perform anal sex during a public broadcast the very first time they went live. I’m guessing there is a reason why such a thing isn’t common practice in the Cam industry.

Theoretically, if a Cam site did decide that they wanted to use high pressure manipulation on their models but didn’t want to have to deal with any tricky legal consequences how would they do it? There would have to be a way for a Cam site to have their cake and eat it too. One would think that the key to doing such a thing would be to do execute it in such a way that they would have plausible deniability. Maybe they would create a members profile such as this one profile/240317 . That way, if a model did file a complaint they could tell the model that they had been tricked by a member who was just posing an Administrator. The models would almost certainly feel completely violated, some would quit after experiencing such a thing, but perhaps the ones that quit weren’t likely to put on the kind of show that drives up profits and the ones that continued are exactly the kind of models the site’s looking for.



WELCOME TO BONGA CAMS ‘SCARLETHARLOT’
THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE FROM THE BONGA CAMS ADMIN AND PROMO DEPARTMENT, APOLOGIES FOR THE DELAY IN CONTACTING YOU


IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR YOUR ENGLISH IS BAD PLEASE USE ‘GOOGLE TRANSLATE


WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU THE BONGA CAMS MONTHLY REWARDS INCENTIVE CALLED BONGA VIP ZONE. THIS IS A PERSONAL OFFER JUST FOR YOU ‘SCARLETHARLOT’



THIS IS AN OFFER OF UP TO 300 BONUS TOKENS TO HELP YOU GET STARTED ON BONGA
CAMS AND GET YOU MORE PRIVATE SHOWS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE, REPLY PLEASE, TYPE YES OR NO.



THIS IS AN OFFER OF UP TO 300 BONUS TOKENS TO HELP YOU GET STARTED ON BONGA
CAMS AND GET YOU MORE PRIVATE SHOWS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE, REPLY PLEASE, TYPE YES OR NO.



THIS IS A PERSONAL OFFER THAT WE ONLY MAKE TO 3 MODELS A DAY WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO OFFER IT TO YOU LATER



CAN YOU REPLY PLEASE


ScarletHarlot
hello



THIS IS AN OFFER OF UP TO 300 BONUS TOKENS TO HELP YOU GET STARTED ON BONGA
CAMS AND GET YOU MORE PRIVATE SHOWS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE, REPLY PLEASE, TYPE YES OR NO.



WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU THE BONGA CAMS MONTHLY REWARDS INCENTIVE CALLED BONGA VIP ZONE. THIS IS A PERSONAL OFFER JUST FOR YOU ‘SCARLETHARLOT’


ScarletHarlot
yes



****DETAILS ON BONGA VIP ZONE *****



THE BONGA VIP ZONE OFFER IS DESIGNED TO GIVE NEW MODELS THEIR FIRST CHANCE TO BE NAKED IN PUBLIC CHAT. WE DO IT SO THAT YOU CAN RELAX KNOWING THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE UP TO 300 TOKENS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR A PAYING MEMBER. WE WILL GUIDE YOU. WE WANT ALL OUR MODELS TO BE SUCCESSFUL HERE



WHEN THE BONGA VIP ZONE IS ACTIVATED, BONGA CAMS WILL PAY YOU 30 TOKENS A MINUTE ( MAXIMUM 300 TOKENS ) IF YOU GIVE A NAKED SHOW IN PUBLIC CHAT. THIS WILL GET MORE MEMBERS IN YOUR ROOM AND SHOULD GET YOU MORE TIPS AND PRIVATES.



YOU WILL RECEIVE 30 TOKENS FOR EVERY MINUTE YOU ARE SHOWING NAKED (MAXIMUM 300 TOKENS , 10 MINUTES) IN PUBLIC CHAT. THE BONUS TOKENS WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR ACCOUNT WHEN THE IS BONGA VIP ZONE DE-ACTIVATED



IF YOU ANSWER YES TO THE BONGA VIP ZONE BONGA CAMS WILL PAY YOU TO GIVE A NAKED SHOW IN PUBLIC CHAT



WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR BONGA VIP ZONE ACTIVATING NOW, REPLY PLEASE, YES OR NO?



WE DON’T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE BONGA VIP ZONE, LET US TRY AND EXPLAIN TO YOU



BONGA VIP ZONE IS JUST THE NAME OF THE MONTHLY OFFER FROM BONGA CAMS, IT IS NOT A SEPARATE SITE AND YOU DO NOT NEED A SEPARATE ACCOUNT



BONGA VIP ZONE IS A REWARD INCENTIVE THAT BONGA CAMS OFFERS TO 3 NEW MODELS A DAY, TO HELP THEM GET STARTED ON BONGA CAMS. IT WILL GET MORE MEMBERS INTO YOUR ROOM AND SHOULD GET YOU SOME TIPS AND PRIVATES, AND WE WILL PAY YOU UP TO 300 BONUS TOKENS


THE BONGA VIP ZONE OFFER IS DESIGNED TO GIVE NEW MODELS THEIR FIRST CHANCE TO BE NAKED IN PUBLIC CHAT. WE DO IT SO THAT YOU CAN RELAX KNOWING THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE UP TO 3OO TOKENS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR A PAYING MEMBER. WE WILL GUIDE YOU. WE WANT ALL OUR MODELS TO BE SUCCESSFUL HERE



BONGA VIP ZONE HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR



WHEN THE BONGA VIP ZONE IS ACTIVE, YOU WILL RECEIVE 30 TOKENS FROM BONGA CAMS FOR EACH MINUTE YOU ARE SHOWING NAKED IN PUBLIC CHAT (MAXIMUM 300 TOKENS – 10 MINUTES), THIS SHOULD BE BETTER THAN TIPS AND ABOUT THE SAME AS YOUR PRIVATE RATE.



BONGA CAMS WILL PAY YOU 30 TOKENS A MINUTE WHILE YOUR BONGA VIP ZONE IS ACTIVE, IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN YOUR ROOM, AND THEY DO NOT NEED TO TIP YOU. YOU WILL BE PAID DIRECTLY BY BONGA CAMS.



WE KNOW IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR A NEW MODEL IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS SO WE TRY TO HELP YOU WITH SPECIAL OFFERS



DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?



PLEASE READ EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY AND THEN REPLY



PLEASE READ EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY AND THEN REPLY



WE CANNOT AWARD YOU BONUS TOKENS FOR JUST TOPLESS, YOU HAVE TO BE TOTALLY NAKED AND GIVE A SEXY SHOW TO RECEIVE THE BONUS TOKENS



YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE BONGA VIP ZONE OFFER IN THE APRIL NEWS BULLETIN



UNFORTUNATELY SOME STUDIOS HAVE NOT INFORMED THEIR MODELS ARE NOT AWARE OF THE OFFER, ALL STUDIO MANAGERS HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE OFFER


YOU CAN MAIL US AT [email protected] BONGA-CASH . COM TO REQUEST A COPY OF THE APRIL NEWS BULLETIN INCLUDING BONGA VIP ZONE OFFERS



THE OFFER IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE, CAN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION PLEASE



THIS IS A PERSONAL OFFER THAT WE ONLY OFFER TO 3 MODELS A DAY, IF YOU WISH TO REFUSE IT JUST ANSWER ‘NO’ AND WE WILL OFFER IT TO THE NEXT MODEL



IF YOU ANSWER YES TO THE BONGA VIP ZONE BONGA CAMS WILL PAY YOU TO GIVE A NAKED SHOW IN PUBLIC CHAT



WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR BONGA VIP ZONE ACTIVATING NOW, REPLY PLEASE, YES OR NO?


ScarletHarlot
yes



YOUR ‘BONGA VIP ZONE’ IS NOW ACTIVE, YOU SHOULD GIVE A NAKED SHOW IN FREE CHAT NOW. BONGA CAMS WILL GIVE YOU 30 TOKENS A MINUTE (300 TOKENS MAXIMUM) FOR EVERY MINUTE YOU ARE SHOWING NAKED



YOUR’ BONGA VIP ZONE ‘ IS ONLY ACTIVE FOR 10 MINUTES SO YOU NEED TO UNDRESS, GET NAKED, AND GIVE A SEXY SHOW TO RECEIVE THE BONUS TOKENS‘



CONGRATULATIONS,
YOU ARE NOW IN THE BONGA VIP ZONE JUST RELAX AS IF YOU ARE IN A PRIVATE SHOW,
YOU SHOULD GIVE A SEXY NAKED SHOW NOW.
YOU SHOULD USE THE BONGA VIP ZONE TO PROMOTE YOUR OWN PRIVATE SHOW. YOU WILL RECEIVE 30 TOKENS FOR EVERY MINUTE YOU ARE SHOWING NAKED (MAXIMUM 300 TOKENS, 10 MINUTES) IN PUBLIC CHAT



YOU SHOULD USE THE BONGA VIP ZONE TO PROMOTE YOUR OWN PRIVATE SHOW



WE ARE GETTING REQUESTS FROM MEMBERS FOR YOU TO LAY BACK AND SHOW YOUR PUSSY NOW


WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU SHOW YOUR PUSSY NOW, RECORDS SHOW THAT MEMBERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO TIP IF YOU SHOW YOUR PUSSY



THAT’S GOOD, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU LAY BACK, ZOOM YOUR PUSSY AND PLAY WITH YOUR TOY NOW IF YOU HAVE ONE



WE ARE GETTING REQUESTS FROM MEMBERS FOR YOU TO TURN AROUND AND SHOW DOGGY-STYLE NOW



WE ARE GETTING REQUESTS FROM MEMBERS FOR YOU TO PUT THE TOY IN YOUR ASS NOW


WE ARE GETTING REQUESTS FROM MEMBERS FOR YOU TO TURN AROUND AND SHOW DOGGY-STYLE AND PUT THE TAIL IN YOUR ASS



CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE OVER 25 MEMBERS IN YOUR ROOM NOW, YOU ARE NOW ON THE SECOND PAGE OF LISTINGS


Now that you’ve read everything, you can draw your own conclusions. There is really only one more thing that I wish to share. It is copied directly from the response I received from [email protected] when I first notified them about what had happened. What do you think it is they meant when they answered my complaint with this reply “Unfortunately, there are people who can be cheating.” hmmm..."

drearea
04-21-2017, 02:48 PM
Dear ladies,

There are the Terms (https://bongamodels.com/terms)available on BongaModels that all models read and agree with before starting their work on the site. There is no intention and it's not a common practice to fine models, that is why models are always given warnings first in case of violations of the rules. But if there is a repeated offence and all warnings are ignored, the company reserves the right to fine the performer. For example, if a model gives out her personal/contact information or advertises other webcam sites, we cannot leave that without attention and have to take actions.

The amount of fine is defined by the company depending on the nature of such offence. But we always try to avoid such situations and that is why we really appreciate if models follow the Terms and react on the warnings from Administration because it can prevent from such things as fines.

If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact our support team (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support).

Hope for your understanding.

The only mention of $100 on your terms page page is stating that $100 is the minimum payout for studios.

Again, ARBITRARY FINES ARE UNACCEPTABLE

Please do not EVER respond to ANY model with the stance that ARBITRARY FINES are acceptable. If you do not know what ARBITRARY means, I can link you a definition.

Now,

WHERE can a model find the information that states the AMOUNT of the fine that you will issue and what offenses you issue fines for?

Thank you in advance for providing the information asked for as opposed to trying to avoid answering it all together. I'm sure you're not being manipulative, you just forgot.

drearea
04-21-2017, 02:55 PM
Hello ladies,

Rules are rules like everywhere else. The information about fines has been written.


GREAT, it shouldn't be hard for you to link it then. Everywhere else has rules that are clearly defined in accordance to the laws of the countries they hire from. So where has the information about fines been written for your site? You didn't link it? Strange. Totally NOT a sad attempt at manipulation. Nope. Just forgot. Again. Bless.

I'm sure you don't have a secret fining document that is hidden from models as that would go against the laws of the countries you hire from. That would mean you are liable for heavy lawsuits and liquidation of your business, but only after your site is blacklisted by internet service providers in the countries that give you the most models and paying traffic.


Since you are obviously not that ignorant, I'm sure you will be posting the information that models are LEGALLY ENTITLED TO about fines in your next reply. Thanks!

ScarlettHarlott
04-21-2017, 03:09 PM
GREAT, it shouldn't be hard for you to link it then. Everywhere else has rules that are clearly defined in accordance to the laws of the countries they hire from. So where has the information about fines been written for your site? You didn't link it? Strange. Totally NOT a sad attempt at manipulation. Nope. Just forgot. Again. Bless.

I'm sure you don't have a secret fining document that is hidden from models as that would go against the laws of the countries you hire from. That would mean you are liable for heavy lawsuits and liquidation of your business, but only after your site is blacklisted by internet service providers in the countries that give you the most models and paying traffic.


Since you are obviously not that ignorant, I'm sure you will be posting the information that models are LEGALLY ENTITLED TO about fines in your next reply. Thanks!

I read the Terms and Conditions and I didn't see anything about the company being able to fine models. That is total BS!

You are a veteran member here, perhaps you should start a new thread. This one says that BongaCams really isn't that bad when clearly it really freaking is. New models should avoid them like the plague!

BONGACAMS IS AS SHADY AS YOU GET. THEY TREAT MODELS LIKE DIRT. DO NOT SIGN UP TO BONGACAMS

ScarlettHarlott
04-21-2017, 03:15 PM
Here are some of the back and forth emails.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: BongaModels <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:36 AM
Subject: [SUPPORT #ZTH-857-24980]: I was messaged by one of your representatives
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]

Hello,
Thank you for explaining in details about your unpleasant story. But unfortunately, in this case you need to understand that all this situation is connected with Internet. There is a lot of bad people in Internet who are trying to cheat and deceive other people in a lot of different ways. Unfortunately, this kind of people exist even in BongaCams. They always try to lie to models about money and winning awards. In this case model need to be very attentive and always check messages which she had get. You will always see the difference between messages from Administrator and simple member - messages from Administrator are more expressed and strongly marked. Unfortunately, we are not able to help you in this case. The all what you can do - is to add this member to the ban-list and warn other models about this member. And always check all suspicious messages and if there is something bad written - don't pay attention and and add this person to the ban-list. We hope that you'll not get in such a displeasing situation again.

From: Scarlett Harlott <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: [SUPPORT #ZTH-857-24980]: I was messaged by one of your representatives
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]

Thank you. It is very helpful to know that your official position is that it is acceptable for members to claim they represent BongaCams Administration and that abusing models is not grounds for terminating someones membership. It's funny that your Terms of Service state otherwise. Your dedication to the safety of the Chat Hosts on your network speaks for itself. That too will be very helpful information when I go public.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but [email protected] is the district manager for the US division of BongaCams. My promoter is insisting that I wait until I hear from him before I start sharing my experience.
Is there anything a member is not permitted to do to a Web Host on your site?

Hello,

Of course, sometimes it happens, because there is always some tricky and mad members who are trying to lie to the models and they believe them and do everything what they're asking. But nobody can force you to do something, everything must happen with mutual desire. In this case we always advice models to block these kind of members and never pay attention for the messages which contain treats and suspicious requests.

Thank you

From: Scarlett Harlott <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [SUPPORT #ZTH-857-24980]: I was messaged by one of your representatives
To: [email protected]

Yet you don't delete the account and you let someone continue to approach models claiming to be a representative, why is that exactly? Every other site I've been on impersonating a site administrator, fraud, and abuse means the member gets band. You permit it to continue. You tell the model to block the individual knowing full well that they are likely to keep doing this to other models.I'm sure if those models also report it you turn your back on them too and offer the same advice. This happens over and over again. Which goes back to my point. If you know that someone is doing this, it's reported and yet you make a decision to allow it to continue, that makes you just as guilty. It is called collusion.

TheBrownFox
04-26-2017, 09:24 PM
For some reason, I hear Michael Jackson in my head singing..."All I wanna say is that THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!!!"

Icantdecide
05-19-2017, 06:01 AM
it would potentially have unintended consequences but I wouldn't just go to the labor board but literally any governing body that even marginally applies for your individual state (attorney general, banking commission, dept of commerce) as well as any federal internet governance I could..

no dubious russian companies want their US business dealings ripped apart by the feds lest it slows down their mail to the US (its complicated)

Icantdecide
05-19-2017, 06:03 AM
I mean to add to that- its free to write one well worded email and cc every agency you can think of on it

MissAnnabelleParks
05-21-2017, 03:20 AM
I am so glad I found this thread! I'm finally looking to start split-camming and trying to choose a 2nd site, and I ALMOST decided to take the plunge with BongaCams, but certainly will not be doing so thanks to this thread.
Thanks guys!

ebonymonroe
05-21-2017, 07:59 AM
I work on bongamodels as a second site its not actually that bad if you know how to hustle on there, you can make some decent money & extra money ontop of that from the top 100 contest. I did have a slight issue when my payment wasn't paid out ontime! but it was sorted and i havent had any other issues since so far

JessRyan
05-22-2017, 11:56 AM
I am so glad I found this thread! I'm finally looking to start split-camming and trying to choose a 2nd site, and I ALMOST decided to take the plunge with BongaCams, but certainly will not be doing so thanks to this thread.
Thanks guys!

I have to reply to this too. Don't let all the negativity and anger towards Bonga sway you away. Over the holidays if you worked at all they sent everyone a makeup gift set. They have EVERY feature readily available that even Streamate or any other site I work doesn't have. Support is head over heels so far above any other site I work. And I cam on MFC, CB and Streamate. Bonga support is so far ahead of those sites, I can't thank them enough for helping/resolving some serious issues I've had. They have a weekly contest North America and Europe that I have placed very high in. Once you figure out the guys, and get your grove it's fine. I split cam with Bonga/CB/MFC no problem. I have NEVER had a streaming problem or glitch. NEVER
NO SITE is perfect, but of all the sites I've cammed, Bonga is the closest to perfect I'm on.

lilmerry
10-04-2017, 01:25 PM
So I joined Bongacams recently again via the BM dailypay. I was well aware that there is a new camscore system and on their FAQ page it states,

"New Models

New models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. This initial CamScore will be based on both your appearance and the quality of your Internet connection. Models may improve their CamScore by earning more tokens or decrease it by being inactive. Either way, this score will change quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.

Average CamScore

The average CamScore is ca. 1,009."

SO imagine my surprise when I logged in to broadcast and my camscore was 5, yep 5! When I broadcasted, I was away in the back pages. My internet is totally fine, my lighting and cam room are set up nicely so I can only assume I do not meet the attractive criteria they are looking for? When I brought it up with live support, they said that every time I broadcasted, my camscore would go up and they seemed to dodge me every time I brought up the fact, well actually as a new model, I should be around the average cam score, to which they responded, don't worry about that, just get online. I've broadcasted a few times since then and my core is now up at 30... yes, 30. Of course, no one is coming into my room cause I'm all the way at the back. I can only assume bonga excepts me to put money into streaming there while I make absolutely no money to build my camscore, which at this rate could probably take months to make even the average, so what's the point? When I first joined last year, this site was a great wee extra money maker! I honestly don't think I'll be back!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-04-2017, 03:45 PM
So I joined Bongacams recently again via the BM dailypay. I was well aware that there is a new camscore system and on their FAQ page it states,

"New Models

New models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. This initial CamScore will be based on both your appearance and the quality of your Internet connection. Models may improve their CamScore by earning more tokens or decrease it by being inactive. Either way, this score will change quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.

Average CamScore

The average CamScore is ca. 1,009."

SO imagine my surprise when I logged in to broadcast and my camscore was 5, yep 5! When I broadcasted, I was away in the back pages. My internet is totally fine, my lighting and cam room are set up nicely so I can only assume I do not meet the attractive criteria they are looking for? When I brought it up with live support, they said that every time I broadcasted, my camscore would go up and they seemed to dodge me every time I brought up the fact, well actually as a new model, I should be around the average cam score, to which they responded, don't worry about that, just get online. I've broadcasted a few times since then and my core is now up at 30... yes, 30. Of course, no one is coming into my room cause I'm all the way at the back. I can only assume bonga excepts me to put money into streaming there while I make absolutely no money to build my camscore, which at this rate could probably take months to make even the average, so what's the point? When I first joined last year, this site was a great wee extra money maker! I honestly don't think I'll be back!

Based on your appearance? They actually wrote that? That is so wrong but yet Bonga Cams, it's actually not that bad?!?! I'm so sorry. Not sure how much you were bringing in on there but I'm positive there are other ways to make that up without being insulted.

sexysusie
10-04-2017, 05:34 PM
So I joined Bongacams recently again via the BM dailypay. I was well aware that there is a new camscore system and on their FAQ page it states,

"New Models

New models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. This initial CamScore will be based on both your appearance and the quality of your Internet connection. Models may improve their CamScore by earning more tokens or decrease it by being inactive. Either way, this score will change quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.

Average CamScore

The average CamScore is ca. 1,009."

SO imagine my surprise when I logged in to broadcast and my camscore was 5, yep 5! When I broadcasted, I was away in the back pages. My internet is totally fine, my lighting and cam room are set up nicely so I can only assume I do not meet the attractive criteria they are looking for? When I brought it up with live support, they said that every time I broadcasted, my camscore would go up and they seemed to dodge me every time I brought up the fact, well actually as a new model, I should be around the average cam score, to which they responded, don't worry about that, just get online. I've broadcasted a few times since then and my core is now up at 30... yes, 30. Of course, no one is coming into my room cause I'm all the way at the back. I can only assume bonga excepts me to put money into streaming there while I make absolutely no money to build my camscore, which at this rate could probably take months to make even the average, so what's the point? When I first joined last year, this site was a great wee extra money maker! I honestly don't think I'll be back!

They don't want anyone from first world countries to work there. They always had really flawed ideas of how to run a camsite but over time they've gradually just become a 3rd rate live jasmin. That suits them fine because girls will work for almost nothing and it keeps a fresh stream of faces on the site.

lilmerry
10-04-2017, 05:36 PM
Based on your appearance? They actually wrote that? That is so wrong but yet Bonga Cams, it's actually not that bad?!?! I'm so sorry. Not sure how much you were bringing in on there but I'm positive there are other ways to make that up without being insulted.

"New models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. (1000 - mine is currently 30) This initial CamScore will be based on both your appearance and the quality of your Internet connection".

As far as I'm concerned, my internet is totally fine, no connection issues and much better than other girls on the site! So I can only assume that they think my appearance doesn't suit the site. Why should I log in and work on a site that has me in the back pages thus making me no money? I can't afford and don't have time to log on-line and make nothing to build my camscore from a ridiculous 30! It's easy for them to say, the more you log in, the more your camscore will grow, just get on-line, but this is how I make a living... whaaaat. When I was on the site before I was on the front page for a few days and got in the top 100 and done pretty well, but that was before camscore came around on there. I've contacted support a few times about it but they dodge why I'm not nearer to 1000 when that's the average score.

whirlerz
10-04-2017, 05:36 PM
We have like 2 Bonga threads...

lilmerry
10-04-2017, 05:42 PM
Oh I made one token since I joined back up through BM DailyPay and I've been online a few times just to see how my camscore would jump. To be fair, I'm at 40 now ::) Yeah I'm not going back, I don't have time to sit and make nothing on a site for months until my camscore grows. The only guys coming into my room are guests. So done with this site.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-04-2017, 06:13 PM
We have like 2 Bonga threads...

I know there are two. This one that we all post in and they've since abandoned because it's the most active and filled with discourse. Personally I like this thread because it's now indexed on google. So any model who does their research will find it and be able to determine if it's a good fit for them or not.

whirlerz
10-04-2017, 07:03 PM
Oh, I knew you were on it, hon.:)
Cool

whirlerz
10-05-2017, 04:48 PM
Do they play Bongas on there?:rotfl:

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-05-2017, 04:57 PM
Do they play Bongas on there?:rotfl:

LOL I don't think that question will ever be answered.

whirlerz
10-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Yep.
I never stop trying tho! :)

whirlerz
10-07-2017, 08:10 PM
LOL I don't think that question will ever be answered.

But, check out the other Bonga Thread, Pokey posted a kick ass Ricky Ricardo Bonga vid!

anonymous camgirl
10-10-2017, 09:34 AM
Advertises early payment for Tuesdays, never got paid Today. Which is not an incentive to work weekends.. but yea there's that.. Took yesterday off wake up this morning, I am in the International Top 100 instead of North America and Western Europe Top 100... umm ok.. I am in FLorida USA.. I didn't move overnite.. what is going on? Did this happen to anyone else? I emailed Ronni

naomi_doll
10-10-2017, 09:42 AM
Mine says international as well, and I also live in the states. Weird.

Olga BongaCams
10-10-2017, 12:45 PM
So I joined Bongacams recently again via the BM dailypay. I was well aware that there is a new camscore system and on their FAQ page it states,

"New Models

New models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. This initial CamScore will be based on both your appearance and the quality of your Internet connection. Models may improve their CamScore by earning more tokens or decrease it by being inactive. Either way, this score will change quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.

Average CamScore

The average CamScore is ca. 1,009."

SO imagine my surprise when I logged in to broadcast and my camscore was 5, yep 5! When I broadcasted, I was away in the back pages. My internet is totally fine, my lighting and cam room are set up nicely so I can only assume I do not meet the attractive criteria they are looking for? When I brought it up with live support, they said that every time I broadcasted, my camscore would go up and they seemed to dodge me every time I brought up the fact, well actually as a new model, I should be around the average cam score, to which they responded, don't worry about that, just get online. I've broadcasted a few times since then and my core is now up at 30... yes, 30. Of course, no one is coming into my room cause I'm all the way at the back. I can only assume bonga excepts me to put money into streaming there while I make absolutely no money to build my camscore, which at this rate could probably take months to make even the average, so what's the point? When I first joined last year, this site was a great wee extra money maker! I honestly don't think I'll be back!

Dear lilmerry,

CamScore is an automatic score that is calculated for all BongaCams models. All new models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. The average CamScore is 987. The score is updated automatically every 10 minutes. So this score changes quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.
Basically, the more you stay online at the beginning the quicker you get the score as a new model. You said that you had been broadcasted just several times, but for how long?

I would kindly ask you to check your CamScore again and if it still remains between 30-50, please contact BongaCams support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) for an immediate assistance. It would be great if you could send me your username via personal message on this forum.

Thank you.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-10-2017, 12:54 PM
Dear lilmerry,

CamScore is an automatic score that is calculated for all BongaCams models. All new models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. The average CamScore is 987. The score is updated automatically every 10 minutes. So this score changes quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.
Basically, the more you stay online at the beginning the quicker you get the score as a new model. You said that you had been broadcasted just several times, but for how long?

I would kindly ask you to check your CamScore again and if it still remains between 30-50, please contact BongaCams support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) for an immediate assistance. It would be great if you could send me your username via personal message on this forum.

Thank you.

Olga many prefer to post here on Stripperweb in the hopes of maintaining some sort of anonymity. If she wants to share that info going forward thats up to her, but it shouldn't be encouraged. Also she's already contacted support regarding the issue according to her post.

Olga BongaCams
10-10-2017, 01:17 PM
Advertises early payment for Tuesdays, never got paid Today. Which is not an incentive to work weekends.. but yea there's that..

Dear anonymous camgirl,

If all the requirements (https://bongamodels.com/model-faq#24) for Tuesday payouts have been met but you still haven’t received the payout, please contact BongaCams support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) directly to solve this issue as quickly as possible.

Thank you

Olga BongaCams
10-10-2017, 02:21 PM
Took yesterday off wake up this morning, I am in the International Top 100 instead of North America and Western Europe Top 100... umm ok.. I am in FLorida USA.. I didn't move overnite.. what is going on? Did this happen to anyone else? I emailed Ronni


Mine says international as well, and I also live in the states. Weird.

Dear anonymous camgirl and naomi_doll,

I would like to reassure you that there’s nothing to worry about since all the points are counted correctly. Several models could have faced an issue with wrong display of the TOP-charts in their model accounts. This is temporary and should be fixed in the shortest time.

If you have any additional questions, I kindly ask you to contact BongaCams customer support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) for further assistance.

Thank you!

lilmerry
10-10-2017, 06:15 PM
Dear lilmerry,

CamScore is an automatic score that is calculated for all BongaCams models. All new models are given a CamScore that comes close to the average CamScore on the site. The average CamScore is 987. The score is updated automatically every 10 minutes. So this score changes quickly based on a model’s actual performance on the site.
Basically, the more you stay online at the beginning the quicker you get the score as a new model. You said that you had been broadcasted just several times, but for how long?

I would kindly ask you to check your CamScore again and if it still remains between 30-50, please contact BongaCams support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) for an immediate assistance. It would be great if you could send me your username via personal message on this forum.

Thank you.

Actually before I had even broadcasted, my initial camscore after signing up was 5, so not exactly anywhere near 987. I brought that up with live chat support and they said if I broadcast, my camscore would go up, they couldn't explain to me why it was only 5 considering I hadn't even broadcasted yet, they even dodged me when I asked why it's not closer to the average camscore considering I'm new and that's what the camscore page said I should have been. I contacted them two further times after I broadcasted a few times and each time my camscore would go up but because I started out at the back with the low camscore of 5, no one was coming into my room and I only ever made one token and it only went up as high as 40. None of the team could give me a straight answer as to why my initial score was 5 which was extremely frustrating so I can't believe a fourth time asking would be any help. You can't expect me to be happy twiddling my thumbs for months until I get up to a camscore in which paying customers will actually start coming into my room. I live alone, all of my bills fall on me, I can't not pay them for months because your site didn't give me a fair start.

Olga BongaCams
10-11-2017, 08:44 AM
Actually before I had even broadcasted, my initial camscore after signing up was 5, so not exactly anywhere near 987. I brought that up with live chat support and they said if I broadcast, my camscore would go up, they couldn't explain to me why it was only 5 considering I hadn't even broadcasted yet, they even dodged me when I asked why it's not closer to the average camscore considering I'm new and that's what the camscore page said I should have been. I contacted them two further times after I broadcasted a few times and each time my camscore would go up but because I started out at the back with the low camscore of 5, no one was coming into my room and I only ever made one token and it only went up as high as 40. None of the team could give me a straight answer as to why my initial score was 5 which was extremely frustrating so I can't believe a fourth time asking would be any help. You can't expect me to be happy twiddling my thumbs for months until I get up to a camscore in which paying customers will actually start coming into my room. I live alone, all of my bills fall on me, I can't not pay them for months because your site didn't give me a fair start.

Dear lilmerry,

I'm sorry that customer support wasn't able to find a solution to your problem. Please contact our model manager Ronni, his email address is [email protected] He works at the BongaCams office in the US. He's the right person to assist you with this issue or any other questions you might have.

Thank you for your patience.

BuffyFlame
11-01-2017, 04:34 AM
Please do NOT send text messages to my phone asking me to cam! That number was put in for payment verification purposes only! I don't want these coming to my phone, that I let my family use, and there is NO way to disable it, because the number wasn't included for the purpose of trying to get me to cam, and only on my payment information page.

Snowy0Star
11-01-2017, 08:28 AM
Please do NOT send text messages to my phone asking me to cam! That number was put in for payment verification purposes only! I don't want these coming to my phone, that I let my family use, and there is NO way to disable it, because the number wasn't included for the purpose of trying to get me to cam, and only on my payment information page.

bonga cams is notorious for pestering american models to log in but the easiest way to prevent them from not doing it is block them from ur phone because from what i read in this thread they dont understand what the words stop and dont mean

Olga BongaCams
11-01-2017, 08:39 AM
Please do NOT send text messages to my phone asking me to cam! That number was put in for payment verification purposes only! I don't want these coming to my phone, that I let my family use, and there is NO way to disable it, because the number wasn't included for the purpose of trying to get me to cam, and only on my payment information page.

Hey BuffyFlame,


We apologize for sending unsolicited text messages. In the terms & conditions agreement, it's stipulated we can use information you voluntarily provide, such as a phone number, to reach you for reasons not explicitly pertaining to payment confirmation. However, if you do not wish to receive text messages of any kind, we can remove your phone number from our database. We do not wish to be unbecoming.


Please contact BongaCams support (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support) in order to let them know your username or email address tied to the account and that you wish to have your number wiped out of our database. We apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused.


Thank you for joining BongaCams.

JessRyan
11-29-2017, 01:13 PM
I've probably made over $1000 extra money just by placing in your weekly contest. Almost every week when I cam on there I make something and it's added up. Thanks

sexysusie
11-29-2017, 11:05 PM
The drums are obviously too loud over there, that's why they completely ignore models!

JessRyan
12-01-2017, 05:21 PM
super love the new model features where you can now "invite" a member to private chat. And you can ban/block long after they've left your room. FYI

itsnightlight
12-12-2017, 02:37 PM
Trolls are out full force today. Watch out ladies!

JessRyan
12-13-2017, 10:08 AM
^^ oh no! One thing I've wanted Bonga support to change/add Give models the ability to NOT allow members to post those annoying emoticons. I sometimes still get trolls who come in my room and post a wall of that crap. LOL luckily it doesn't happen very often. Maybe they do have a way to disable them and I haven't looked close enough?? It took me awhile to finally get my room just right. I will say that Bonga was the most work with that than any other cam-site I've been on. It took a LONG time to get my room right.
One thing I'm having trouble with right now, is updating my profile. It won't update. I in-put the new stuff click update and it reverts back. This is concerning Jess Ryan's age, "about me" "turn ons" and "turn offs" sections. Olga, does it take awhile to update/change?

anonymous camgirl
12-13-2017, 02:00 PM
Trolls are out full force today. Watch out ladies!

They seem to be nastier these days.. I am on 6 sites most of the time and I find myself only arguing with this site in particular.. some days I think maybe I shouldn't log on then... ruining my mood and personality for the other guys I have.

Olga BongaCams
12-14-2017, 10:16 AM
^^ oh no! One thing I've wanted Bonga support to change/add Give models the ability to NOT allow members to post those annoying emoticons. I sometimes still get trolls who come in my room and post a wall of that crap. LOL luckily it doesn't happen very often. Maybe they do have a way to disable them and I haven't looked close enough?? It took me awhile to finally get my room just right. I will say that Bonga was the most work with that than any other cam-site I've been on. It took a LONG time to get my room right.
One thing I'm having trouble with right now, is updating my profile. It won't update. I in-put the new stuff click update and it reverts back. This is concerning Jess Ryan's age, "about me" "turn ons" and "turn offs" sections. Olga, does it take awhile to update/change?

Hello, JessRyan!

Unfortunately, at the moment there is no ability for models to disable the user submitted emotions, but quite possible that we will add this function in future :)

Concerning the profile, all changes should be visible right after you save them. Most likely you hadn´t filled all the required fields and due to that changes cannot be saved. I kindly ask you to try once more and make sure that after clicking "Save" button, there are no fields marked with red.

If this won´t help, please contact BongaCams Support Team (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support), they will be happy to assist.

Thank you!

JessRyan
12-15-2017, 12:58 PM
Hello, JessRyan!

Unfortunately, at the moment there is no ability for models to disable the user submitted emotions, but quite possible that we will add this function in future :)

Concerning the profile, all changes should be visible right after you save them. Most likely you hadn´t filled all the required fields and due to that changes cannot be saved. I kindly ask you to try once more and make sure that after clicking "Save" button, there are no fields marked with red.

If this won´t help, please contact BongaCams Support Team (https://en.bongacams.com/contact-support), they will be happy to assist.

Thank you!

Damn, all I'm trying to change is my age and it won't let me. I guess Jess Ryan will be 41 forever

JessRyan
12-15-2017, 01:00 PM
^^ nevermind Olga, I got it fixed yay ;-)

Karla_K
12-17-2017, 10:35 AM
Hey,

I wanted to know what are the best timesto get on bonga cams? i just came back from a year long camming hitus. I see SM is still a mess so I'm trying to stay clear of that. And I want to give bonga cams a good try

Sam38g
12-17-2017, 06:22 PM
So do you have to know how to speak Russian on it?

Olga BongaCams
12-19-2017, 06:45 AM
Hey,

I wanted to know what are the best timesto get on bonga cams? i just came back from a year long camming hitus. I see SM is still a mess so I'm trying to stay clear of that. And I want to give bonga cams a good try

Hello, Karla_K!

Thank you for the comment. Really happy to hear that you are looking forward to starting on BongaCams. Traffic on the site is worldwide and due to the different time zones we have bunch of visitors and members any time. So there is actually no specific time period when it is better to be online. Try different to understand which is better for you.

Thank you!


So do you have to know how to speak Russian on it?

Hello, Sam38g!

As I have already mentioned in the message above, BongaCams is a worldwide website with traffic from all parts of the world. So you don't have to know Russian in order to make good money on BongaCams ;)

Thank you!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-29-2017, 09:48 PM
I've quietly gone about the business of deleting post that I consider trolling. Honestly I'm too busy to send out messages to grown ups who have nothing better to do than derail and troll threads on an adult industry forum. I know that we all come here for different reasons but many of us read these threads for business purposes and financial gain. If these are not apart of your interest then please refrain from posting here. If you work or have worked on Bonga or any other camsite and have an issue with them then please post away in the appropriate thread. If not go have fun in The Lounge (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?125-The-Lounge).