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QueenMary
02-26-2016, 11:22 AM
Does anyone know if BC is Mac friendly? Thanks!

Tsani
02-26-2016, 12:00 PM
Let's begin with the fact that the website covers ALL chargebacks and refunds that are made due to fraud and ANY payment disputes that result in money refunds. This is always followed by member's account being deactivated. Please, put "Read More (http://bongamodels.com/news/303#news-303)" and check that news once again.

From what the model was saying, the money was taken out of her account, meaning that she did not get paid for the session. Did the website cover this chargeback?



We have the point in our Rules (http://bongamodels.com/terms). Please pay your attention to that:
"In case the Performer or Studio Model, as the case may be, misled the paying Member about his/her/their gender, preferences, or activities, the Member is entitled to claim back any amounts paid."


I don't see where she mislead anyone. The guy wanted tits, the guy got tits. He didn't ask for anything other than "tits" and "hurry up".... how do you hurry up showing tits when she's been sitting there showing him exactly what he wanted for a full minute?



In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't and banned him. He wasn't rude, we've checked that. Since this happened during a private chat, and there were no objections to what the member clearly stated he wanted to see during the show, we were forced to return him his money. I realize this is very frustrating, but, hopefully you understand why we had to issue this token refund.

As I said before... how does she "hurry up" with showing him something she's already showing him that he asked for? Unless there's some sort of language barrier and he thought that "tits" meant to fuck herself with a dildo or something? Or maybe his screen froze and she didn't look like she was doing anything? Yes, he was rude making demands when she was clearly doing as he said as best she could. Who are you to say what's rude? From your site "policies" it seems we have to do everything these assholes want us to do or they get their money back. "stand on your head while doing the splits and shoving a bottle up your ass" and we're required to acquiesce to their demands or risk a chargeback?



The best solution to such a situation did not happen - to discuss all the conditions with the member BEFORE the private session. And of course, if you aren't agree with something - contact directly our Support Team (https://bongacams.com/contact-support) and tell them the details from your side.
It is important to note that all such token refund requests are always investigated in-depth.


This to me indicates a misunderstanding of how cam sites work. This may work great in indy when the customers pay for a session and arrange it with the model ahead of time, and yes, some customers on "big box" sites will do this. But the typical horny customer just wants to get off quickly. By the time he's discussed the terms of the private, he's either lost his erection or he's gotten off just talking about it and there's no private. Also, us models tend to not want to discuss private sessions outside of the private session, for the reason that in our experience many guys will talk about this supposed session but it never actually happens. They just wanted to talk about it for free.

The more I hear about this site the more I'm convinced that they really have the customer's best interest in mind far more than the model's.

justanothercamgirl
02-26-2016, 12:15 PM
Hey, everyone!

First of all, I'm really sorry that you had to deal a situation like this. But we can't help you here. I'll explain why:

Let's begin with the fact that the website covers ALL chargebacks and refunds that are made due to fraud and ANY payment disputes that result in money refunds. This is always followed by member's account being deactivated. Please, put "Read More (http://bongamodels.com/news/303#news-303)" and check that news once again.
We have the point in our Rules (http://bongamodels.com/terms). Please pay your attention to that:
"In case the Performer or Studio Model, as the case may be, misled the paying Member about his/her/their gender, preferences, or activities, the Member is entitled to claim back any amounts paid."


In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't and banned him. He wasn't rude, we've checked that. Since this happened during a private chat, and there were no objections to what the member clearly stated he wanted to see during the show, we were forced to return him his money. I realize this is very frustrating, but, hopefully you understand why we had to issue this token refund.


Let's clarify this situation....shall we?

1. The guy wanted her to show her tits, she did show her tits.
2. The guy told her to hurry up.
3. The model found that to be rude and that it crossed her personal boundaries to be talked to like that so she banned him so she did not have to proceed with the show.
4. Bongacams has decided that the model's personal boundaries are IRRELEVANT as they get to decide when a customer is acting rude to a model or not and therefore require models to keep going with shows that cross their own personal boundaries.
5. Bongacams decides you have committed token fraud if your personal boundaries do not line up with what they decide you should be willing to do and put up with during your shows.

Am I correct with this assumption?

sexysusie
02-26-2016, 01:13 PM
In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't and banned him. He wasn't rude, we've checked that. Since this happened during a private chat, and there were no objections to what the member clearly stated he wanted to see during the show, we were forced to return him his money.

Ok, WOW! I am SO fucking disappointed. Looks like I just lost what WAS turning out to be a great source of side income. Cause there's NO WAY I am working for a company that puts rude members over its models, and STEALS from them even after stating there are NO REFUNDS.

YOU SUCK BONGA CAMS. YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you confirm you will be closing this loophole and stopping refunds like this? Because if not - It's a NO from me, and I won't be sending any new referrals your way either. Shity, shitty way to treat models! You should be ashamed.

laurielegs
02-26-2016, 01:19 PM
First of all, I'm really sorry that you had to deal a situation like this. But we can't help you here. I'll explain why:

Let's begin with the fact that the website covers ALL chargebacks and refunds that are made due to fraud and ANY payment disputes that result in money refunds. This is always followed by member's account being deactivated. Please, put "Read More (http://bongamodels.com/news/303#news-303)" and check that news once again.
We have the point in our Rules (http://bongamodels.com/terms). Please pay your attention to that:
"In case the Performer or Studio Model, as the case may be, misled the paying Member about his/her/their gender, preferences, or activities, the Member is entitled to claim back any amounts paid."


In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't and banned him. He wasn't rude, we've checked that. Since this happened during a private chat, and there were no objections to what the member clearly stated he wanted to see during the show, we were forced to return him his money. I realize this is very frustrating, but, hopefully you understand why we had to issue this token refund.

The best solution to such a situation did not happen - to discuss all the conditions with the member BEFORE the private session. And of course, if you aren't agree with something - contact directly our Support Team (https://bongacams.com/contact-support) and tell them the details from your side.
It is important to note that all such token refund requests are always investigated in-depth.

Your staff should reconsider what you are doing here. By not standing behind the model and taking away a few dollars there you are really pissing off lots of us who would have been making you money. I haven't been on the site since I read about this.

She did what the member wanted. I would have banned him too for telling me to hurry up. You seem to think cam hosts are obligated to put up with this type of rudeness but few of us will.

The site will lose way more money in the end than if you stood behind the model rather than the member.

KatM
02-26-2016, 01:19 PM
Many members dont even talk to us before joining a paid show and pretty often they dont even read our profiles, on cam sites they enter and start asking for things, we perform what it feels good to us and give the guy what he wants but then later on he might start asking for things we dont offer or even if we offer them we dont feel like giving him what he wants because the way he asks for that thing.

Example: i get a guy in paid chat & we start playing, we get along til he starts calling me names or insult me or say things i am not comfy with while asking for a specific thing so i decide i wanna ban him cause he said "Put that dildo up ur ass now, hurry up bitch, deepthroat that dildo u worthless piece of s***t, do it for me NOW! NOW!"
You know what i'll do in this situation? BAN! even i play anal, deepthroat and like dirty talk.
So what then? You give him the money back because he wanted something i was not willing to offer because i felt he crossed my boundaries?
What about the things he already got, things i performed already, are they of no value for u, am i as a model not entitled to be paid for my performance?

Be very careful guys how u manage this aspect cause is very important to know if u part with the members or with ur models.

Most times they want to scam us all, cam sites and models and not the opposite.
We cant force them to stay connected, they leave our rooms when they want but if u part with the members who abuse the system and take the money off model's pockets then that's another story.

sexysusie
02-26-2016, 01:26 PM
Just made sure to let them know over on ACF too. Gutted, but not risking losing MY money. What's everyone else's plan?

Tsani
02-26-2016, 01:28 PM
Just made sure to let them know over on ACF too. Gutted, but not risking losing MY money. What's everyone else's plan?

Oh I was fully intending to start on bonga earlier this week until I came back from vacation to see this situation. I was holding back on signing up until this was resolved but looks like I definitely won't be signing up now. Really disappointed with this site.

KatM
02-26-2016, 01:36 PM
Not sure what i am going to do here now as i just signed up with bonga & just tested the site, guess i'll focus on SM where i know FOR SURE i'll be paid for my performance as they never ever did such a thing in the 6 years i am on site.
And i baaaned many guys when they turned bad, always got my money to the last cent!

BustyVixen
02-26-2016, 01:45 PM
Word about this will spread around models like wildfire and it will hurt BongaCams in the long run. I'm a top row model on SM and was excited about giving this site a try until I discovered this horrible treatment of a model. Who are you to say what is rude?? So if a guy tells a model to hurry up and she doesn't, he can get a refund? No fucking way! I take my time in my shows and don't let the guys dictate the speed of the show. This is how you make money...Duh!!

On a cam site, the performers should come first! Always! And you've flat out lied! I'm staying away. And it's your loss BongaCams because I make bank and could have made your site some money. I will let all my model friends know about this as well.

Tsani
02-26-2016, 01:54 PM
Here I fixed it:

44324

KatM
02-26-2016, 01:54 PM
^^^ All time this, it's the MODELS who make a site not the members, the members are the consumers, they come and go but the model has the potential to make all these members spend, without good models on site members have nobody to spend on so no money for u bonga!
Members follow the models, u are nothing without good performers, that's why u need to change policies if u want us on ur site.

anonymous camgirl
02-26-2016, 01:55 PM
It could be a possibility that member's internet was super slow or screen froze as someone mentioned. But still.. that's not my fault or problem.. If the site wants to refund him for that situation then they should eat the cost and still should have paid me. And let me say that I have started asking guys what they want me to do for them in pvt and some of them just leave without even telling me and I lose out on pvts.. I am scared to accept shows on there now and have been super selective.. Which sucks because I shouldn't have to feel that if the show goes awry I won't be paid for it. I have even gone so far as to tell them are you going to be nice and friendly to me before I click the accept button? ..lol.. and I tell them if you are not nice /rude to me I will END THE SHOW!.
I have been a camgirl for 13+ years now and I do not tell members I will do something and then go to pvt and NOT do it.
In this particular case we are speaking of this member I do not believe discussed the show before hand..

KatM
02-26-2016, 02:11 PM
^^^ No model who is serious about camming and long time in the business will do this, to promise something & not deliver it cause we want these guys satisfied, happy so they can return for more, at least that's how i do it, that's how i cam, i am on cam for 15+ years myself, us full time - long time cam girls cant 'afford' to mislead customers cause they our bread and butter.
Yeah, maybe a young girl who just started and is not very serious about this job wont always play fair but this is not working on a long run, not for a model who takes her job serious.

ETA: how can i be motivated to cam on bonga knowing what i know now, thinking "ok, i close/ pause SM when i have a show on bonga but then i might not get paid for my pvt? when i could have had a show on SM that i know for sure i am going to be paid for?!

anonymous camgirl
02-26-2016, 02:57 PM
That's correct! we are in the business of making as much money as we can as long term full time cam models. This cannot be done by deceiving our members


^^^ No model who is serious about camming and long time in the business will do this, to promise something & not deliver it cause we want these guys satisfied, happy so they can return for more, at least that's how i do it, that's how i cam, i am on cam for 15+ years myself, us full time - long time cam girls cant 'afford' to mislead customers cause they our bread and butter.
Yeah, maybe a young girl who just started and is not very serious about this job wont always play fair but this is not working on a long run, not for a model who takes her job serious.

ETA: how can i be motivated to cam on bonga knowing what i know now, thinking "ok, i close/ pause SM when i have a show on bonga but then i might not get paid for my pvt? when i could have had a show on SM that i know for sure i am going to be paid for?!

AvaLove
02-26-2016, 03:36 PM
I am not surprised they do not think it is rude to tell models to "hurry up". This is the same site that made derogatory remarks about white, black, and bbw models.

Dorothea
02-26-2016, 04:37 PM
This seriously happened? and if a guy asks a model to put a knife down her vagina and she says no will there be a refund?

hyori
02-26-2016, 05:00 PM
OMFG, WTF. I just finished my shift and I did OK, but seriously, it's nothing compared to the money I make on MFC/CB/SM so I don't fucking need this site.

I'm not camming on Bonga until this is fixed. A customer tells a model to hurry up and show tits, she shows tits and she gets ripped off? Does that sound right to you?

That's like going to McDonalds, ordering fries and you tell them to hurry it up, eat the fries and then tell the manager that you want a refund because the fries took too long to make, and then to top it off, they dock it from the workers pay!!!!

Go to hell BONGA.

Magical_Hoohah
02-26-2016, 06:26 PM
I didn't have much interest in this site because it's token based, but I've been following the thread just in case. But... um...

In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't
Holy fucking fucks, is that a HUGE flaw! Failure to "hurry up" warrants a refund? What if the request had been something other than "show me tits"? Would the same policy apply?

I advertise that I squirt and do anal, and I generally agree to do those things if the customer asks, but that doesn't mean that I can/will "hurry up" with either of those activities! What if the customer told a model that she should be wet enough already, so he didn't want her to use lube (yes, cam models really do get requests like that)? Would the model actually lose her earnings just because she wanted to do things safely and didn't attempt to overcome the natural limitations of the human body?

Just because a customer wants to see something "right now," doesn't change the fact that women can't squirt on command, rushing anal can cause injury, sometimes you really do need lube, getting undressed too quickly might rip your panties or tangle your hair in your bra strap, and WE CAN'T CUM THE SECOND A DUDE DEMANDS IT! (And no, not all of us can/will fake an orgasm.) Beyond that, it's very hard on our bodies, minds, souls, and clothing if we feel that we HAVE to rush through the demands of some pushy dude who will cum and disappear in 2 minutes, then scramble back into our clothes, and repeat.

Plus, everything that everyone else said was spot on!


ETA: On top of all that, I NEVER sell sex acts. The only thing guys can pay for is minutes spent with me in private. Regardless of what we choose to do during our time together, they still got my time, and they still need to pay for it. If you go to a resort, it doesn't matter if you have fun, you still pay for the nights you stayed at the hotel.
If a customer doesn't enjoy his experience with me, that's his own fault. A cam session is a two way street, just like sex, and guys need to do their part (be realistic, be respectful, be clear about his desires, accept that his partner is a human with limits - it's not a lot to ask!).

KatM
02-26-2016, 07:07 PM
^^^ God!! yes to the added paragraph, that's why they pay per minute and not per 'cum drops' hahaaa, they pay for our time bonga! Get some people to translate what we saying here pls, looks like u dont get the concept guys.

Dorothea
02-26-2016, 07:30 PM
When someone wants to take you private a window pops up. You can encourage them to take you private.

thank you Hyori

Glamourmilf
02-26-2016, 07:30 PM
Not sure what i am going to do here now as i just signed up with bonga & just tested the site, guess i'll focus on SM where i know FOR SURE i'll be paid for my performance as they never ever did such a thing in the 6 years i am on site.
And i baaaned many guys when they turned bad, always got my money to the last cent!

My thoughts EXACTLY KatM! SM would never, EVER, treat models like this! I get 1 stars removed also, from demanding clients on SM. What will this site do? Give them more credits, and a 'at a boy'' pat on the back?

No f.ckin thanks!

QueenMary
02-26-2016, 10:02 PM
First time on BC, so far so good! Mac friendly btw ;)

DeepThoughts
02-27-2016, 12:40 AM
First of all, I'm really sorry that you had to deal a situation like this. But we can't help you here. I'll explain why:

Let's begin with the fact that the website covers ALL chargebacks and refunds that are made due to fraud and ANY payment disputes that result in money refunds. This is always followed by member's account being deactivated. Please, put "Read More (http://bongamodels.com/news/303#news-303)" and check that news once again.
We have the point in our Rules (http://bongamodels.com/terms). Please pay your attention to that:
"In case the Performer or Studio Model, as the case may be, misled the paying Member about his/her/their gender, preferences, or activities, the Member is entitled to claim back any amounts paid."


In your particular case the member asked you to continue and "hurry up", but you didn't and banned him. He wasn't rude, we've checked that. Since this happened during a private chat, and there were no objections to what the member clearly stated he wanted to see during the show, we were forced to return him his money. I realize this is very frustrating, but, hopefully you understand why we had to issue this token refund.

The best solution to such a situation did not happen - to discuss all the conditions with the member BEFORE the private session. And of course, if you aren't agree with something - contact directly our Support Team (https://bongacams.com/contact-support) and tell them the details from your side.
It is important to note that all such token refund requests are always investigated in-depth.


Okay click on the link "Read More" and I read it twice, then one more time and all the language says clearly that there are no chargebacks or refunds. Infact your exact language is "We’ve got you covered no matter what! " and " full protection against all chargebacks and refunds, regardless of the cause! " Is there a major language barrier here? Perhaps you need to go to a certified Russian to English translator and have this translated again. Im not being rude or sarcastic here I just am really wondering if there is something lost in translation because from what you have stated here it seems that YOUR the one who doesnt understand what it says. Your quoting this as evidence that the camgirl is not owed money when in fact it proves that she is owed money.

Also, to argue that the client was not rude or that he did not receive what he wanted is highly debatable, as you can see from the reactions that other ladies have posted here. As a professional company is it your policy to go on open forums and micro debate over the smallest detail to avoid paying under $2 in cash? Because that behavior worries more then a potential charge back if I should join your site. It speaks volumes about how you run your business.

Dorothea
02-27-2016, 12:57 AM
am confused what is the current scenario now...did the model get the money back or no - is it just gone and truly she did a free show?because I thought bonga said they cover the losses so technically her income should not be touched? maybe is all misunderstanding so curious what the current scenario is?

DeepThoughts
02-27-2016, 01:05 AM
^^ No she did nto get her money and your right to be confused as to why she did not. We are all confused at this point.

MistressX
02-27-2016, 01:14 AM
I knew this site was going to be a train wreck. Just by the way they put the descriptions.. I see I made the right choice in not signing up!

kinkydirtybitch
02-27-2016, 01:22 AM
Just made sure to let them know over on ACF too. Gutted, but not risking losing MY money. What's everyone else's plan? Thanks for everyone's feedback here. If it wasn't for you guys there could have been many cam girls signing up thinking they weren't absolute imbeciles when nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm even more done than ever & can safely chuck them out of my potential egg basket.

I'm a full time cam performer doing around 12 hours a day most days and have done for about 10 years. They really have fucked themselves.

SnoviaTerror
02-27-2016, 01:47 AM
WOW That's really shitty! I'm so sorry to the lovely lady that got ripped off. :( I guess I dodged a bullet on this one.

gvon
02-27-2016, 02:10 AM
wow, started off reading this thread and being so encouraged that I was going to sign up, that is, until I got to AC's story and BC's flip-floppy attitude. NO THANKS!

imelly21
02-27-2016, 05:01 AM
It is possible that they will realized they were wrong and change that? So they dont piss off all the models who are reading this thread and that thread?
I hope:)

hyori
02-27-2016, 05:40 AM
What is really sad is that everything is documented in written form...the percentages, the no chargeback rules etc. It's all stated clearly on their site and on the model agreement that we sign. The misleading percentages and "exceptions" to the no chargebacks ruling over an act that was actually done for the customer takes away any semblance of trust. It may seem like a small amount but, what happens to a model in the future who decides to ban a customer for requesting rape, incest, animals etc.? Will he get refunded from her earnings as well? What if he asks for all if his money back because she "mislead" him into thinking he could request such acts from her? Will all her earnings up to that point be taken from her? Where do these "exceptions" end?

GeezLouise
02-27-2016, 05:40 AM
Wow... just wow.
I wanted to register on Bongacams to give it a try but I will be avoiding it like the plague after reading this.

No chargebacks, but if the guy is bossing you around, like you are a dog and you feel uncomfortable with that... we will refund him the money.

Not only morally wrong, also not a smart business move.
A guy who demands a model to "hurry up", obviously doesn't have a lot of money to spend, or is not planning to spend a lot of money on the site.
So refunding his few dollars is really not going to make them shit.
Where as the model would have made Bongacams a shitload of money if they would have just chosen her side, like that should have.


Also, most guys just take you private without even saying hello in free chat.
Are they going to take ALL of that private money away from you, if it turns out he is looking for extreme anal fisting and you don't offer that?

Bongacams, you are thieves.

DeepThoughts
02-27-2016, 05:42 AM
^^ I was hoping this as well after Olgas first comments. The problem is that their standing their ground on this issue suggests that they are afraid that if they fold in then they will lose face and possibly create a situation where whenever a cam model wants something from them they only have to bad mouth them on a forum. They dont want to set a precedent.

Unfortunately we know that they are in the wrong and we also dont want to set a precedent that we will work for a company that refuses to stand behind its own policy! So Im afraid we are at a stalemate.

I would like to see them fix this and understand that we are smart enough to realize that it was a silly oversight and that we will forgive and applaud them for that because the fact that they are finding solutions and fixing issues is a step in the right direction but based on how this has gone so far I am inclined to conclude that this is just another company that is run by men who believe that people who do this line of work can be walked on simply because they do this line of work and so they fit the stereo type of stupid and desperate.

KatM
02-27-2016, 07:09 AM
^^^ No kidding, bonga is run by men, just reading how they translated the main page & categories in my native language, it sounds bad, unprofessional & degrading, slangish & misogynist; maybe Olga is a man actually, we have a precedent in here if u guys know who i am talking about.

They should apologize, pay the money they owe to A.C and sort out this refund policy aspect but i doubt they will, sometimes these companies prefer to keep going their ways cause yes, they count on the 'stupid & desperate stereotype', this is very unfortunate situation if they decide to work like this instead of doing a professional job. Pity!

anonymous camgirl
02-27-2016, 08:50 AM
wow that's a lot of hours!.. I wish I could do 12 hours a day!!


Thanks for everyone's feedback here. If it wasn't for you guys there could have been many cam girls signing up thinking they weren't absolute imbeciles when nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm even more done than ever & can safely chuck them out of my potential egg basket.

I'm a full time cam performer doing around 12 hours a day most days and have done for about 10 years. They really have fucked themselves.

QueenMary
02-27-2016, 04:13 PM
I know we're all hating BC right now, but just wanted to give my neutral feedback on the site since I started using it yesterday. It reminds me a lot of MFC but less... loud, if that makes any sense. I guess because the site has less english speakers there's less people barking orders at you. I've seen a lot of traffic and I really like the control you get over certain things, such as how many tokens a user needs to have in order to send a PM or being able to see how many tokens users have straight away. I also LOVE that quality of the stream and it doesn't freeze like SM does. I don't see an option to block guests, but I also haven't seen them chatting at all.
One thing bear in mind is that when you initiate private anyone who comes in will be paying a voyeur rate, so make sure if someone wants to do a private show they initiate it themselves.

So far it seems like a mix of MFC and SM in the sense that you get a lot of freeloaders lurking BUT you also get a lot of people who want private shows.
Support has also been really helpful the couple of times I've contacted them too.

Ok you ladies can go back to hating it :P

P.S. This is my referral link if anyone is still willing to give it a shot http://bongamodels.com/?fuid=21535587

Miqote
02-27-2016, 04:24 PM
Wow, this was quite a lot to read and digest.

It is unbelievable that Bonga Cams would tank their reputation over $1.90... and yet, here we are.

It's been known that Bonga marketing is *absolutely horrible*. The misleading percentages, misleading RevScore, among so many other things - really make the site look bad. Despite all of this, I did try the site out anyway and was pleasantly surprised by the site itself and wrote it off as just their marketing team needing a lot of improvement. Through a lot of my efforts and the efforts of other models, Bonga has changed a lot of their marketing material. It's still not completely accurate but it is better. For example, their website does say 50% instead of 60%. What it really needs to say is 31.2% - 50%.

This charge back / refund / model misleading issue is clearly something else entirely, apart from their poor marketing. Although most of us all do believe AC, the fact is none of us know what actually happened in that private.

It is my opinion to think twice about letting this situation deter you from working on Bonga and making money for yourself on the site. I'd hate to see someone a girl not make money because of this, although I do agree that you should work where you feel most comfortable. Please don't mistake this as me agreeing with Bonga because I absolutely do not. I think what they said about discussing the private beforehand is extremely ignorant. I realize the bigger picture of this issue. It's not about $1.90 but it's about the fear of not being paid, if a customer should complain.

I can tell you that, as a non-nude model, I have dealt with hundreds of guys on Bonga that have taken me private, assuming that I will get naked. Many of these guys will say something like "tits" and/or "ass". I do go ahead and show them these areas of my body, while still being covered in some way. I try not to disrupt the sexiness and tease flow of my private by unnecessarily stating "Oh, I actually don't show my nipples!" - because that's not sexy. Did I mislead anyone? No. Spending 5 minutes or less in my room, anyone would know my limitations in chat and private, whether by asking directly or observing. If the member persists, I do indeed tell them something like "Oh, I'm just a tease model - I don't show that but I am just loving teasing you right now!" Anyway - I have NEVER been issued a refund / charge back / or been accused of misleading members and I've been on Bonga since December 2015. Maybe it's because I'm lucky and no one reported me? It's possible, but I've dealt with a lot of people and have a good placement on the site. So, I do want it known that it seems like this situation is very unlikely, if it's any comfort at all.

Finally, unfortunate as this is, all cam sites have horror stories and/or shitty practices that we have to deal with. SM has really crappy model percentages and even worse marketing in that they can use your image and videos everywhere for anything. CB is known to ban people for absolutely no reason. On and on the list goes. Bonga is clearly no exception but at least we have what appears to be a dialogue open with their site representatives. This gives me hope that we can all continue to make Bonga a better place for us and our members. It will take time and effort on both sides.

Dorothea
02-27-2016, 04:55 PM
QueenMary I am sorry but bonga is not like mfc - I don't think you know mfc well if you write that- all camsites share something similar but I don't even want to start listing differences - it would take so long there are so many

Dorothea
02-27-2016, 05:09 PM
I too don't know what happened in that private however I noticed that a model would do almost anything to get tokens and make member happy - if she blocked him while she could make more tokens seems like it was a very bad situation.

Plus bonga does advertise no chargebacks and then the next thing is - there is one. I think is important to take note and see the facts for what they are- not what we want them to be just because something did not happen to us.

But is true that all camsites have problems...
for CB is banning - on MFC are the asshole never ending freeloader stream- on Bonga is tokens taken away after a show...which of these problems you consider the worst is up to you.

I think in the end is what works for a model. personally at the moment I have such an aversion to MFC freeloaders I can't even go there am so Angry!!! the fuckers just jump from room to room with their dicks in hand waiting for free shows and if you are not naked with pussy hanging out or your room not full with fellow freeloaders to joke with -they might not stay around for longer than split second...
and the models who cater to these assholes are starting to get on my nerves too...
something about these freeloaders makes me angry at mfc at the moment-i still love the site but need a break or go crazy- but i listen to everything that is written about EVERY site and I usually believe the models version of the story.
Is just very rare that a model would block a tipping member.

GeezLouise
02-28-2016, 03:15 AM
No matter how nice and easy a website is to work on, if the staff / owners screw you over there is no point in working on there.
Even if I would be in a private chat 99% of the time, if the staff keeps handing out refunds I might as well not work.

The thread title kinda makes me giggle now though.

sexysusie
02-28-2016, 03:54 AM
Exactly louise. I think it's generally the newer models who are willing to give sites a second chance or benefit of the doubt, the rest of us unfortunately have experienced this shitty treatment one too many times and know where it leads. I didnt give a crap about the awful wording (guys never read anyway), but if they start messing with my money they can kiss my Ass. If they can refund $2 they can refund $200.. not chancing that when there are well established, trustworthy, ACCOUNTABLE sites that I already bank on.

hyori
02-28-2016, 06:53 AM
It is only a matter of time until the next incident occurs. I am putting Bonga away for awhile on observation. We shall see how things pan out.

GeezLouise, I have changed the title of the thread to reflect a more neutral stance.

KatM
02-28-2016, 07:34 AM
The title looks the same!? I am contemplating the idea of giving this site a 2nd chance considering i just signed up with them and the new model status lasts for 2 weeks i read somewhere. I really dont like or find other sites lucrative for me, reviving old accounts on the sites i worked before is more difficult to do than being new on a site. Now thinking out loud, between chaturbate who could close my account for no reason at a point and not pay me the money i have there in my account (like i read here on sw they did to another girl recently) and risking the refund of a private or more on bonga, i take the smallest risk.

Like Miqote said above she never had a refund since on site, i'll hate to know i am not taking the chance to make money because of this incident.
Is here anyone else camming on bonga who had similar incidents & can relate? Is this a common practice with the refunds or was an exception?

I really hope this was an isolated situation, bonga needs to improve their site, tos, communication skills, so on; i also take into consideration where these people come from, i know in this part of the world things are working different than in western world, is a different mentality here, they not 'used' to respect people's rights like in western countries, is hard to understand when u live in a true democratic system how difficult is for some companies/ people to change their mentality, to adapt to western world 'expectations'.

Right now they 'amateurish' but they have the chance to improve, i hope they take into consideration what people said here and what are the expectations of 'western models' who wanna work on site, it's up to bonga to cater to local resources for models and members or be part of the world wide cam industry.

alexalexx
02-28-2016, 07:40 AM
Girls I think you are overreacting a bit with this situation. I'm sorry, but this is just my opinion. Clearly, Bongacams made a huge mistake because they state "no chargebacks", so I think bongacams should think about it more and state clearly if there are or not chargebacks. On the other hand, I wouldn't choose the option to ban a member who's in the private show, I'll just do my thing without "hurrying up". They did not refund the member because she didn't hurry up, they refunded him because she banned him. I don't say bongacams is right or anon girl is right, I just say Bongacams should respect their rules and also I think you shouldn't ban a member when he's in your private/group/whatever.

By the way, if you think this is shitty, let me tell you I had a refund on a video on Chaturbate, because the member said he can't see my video. How cool is that? Oh btw, he already watched it once, but he couldn't see it the next time.

Bongacams if you say you don't do chargebacks refund the girl and make it your loss!

BustyVixen
02-28-2016, 07:51 AM
I've absolutely banned paying customers in the middle of a show. Doesn't happen often but nobody is allowed to treat me like shit even if they are paying for it. If you don't like what they are saying or asking you to do, you absolutely can ban them rather than put up with bs just to appease a guy and make a few bucks.

hyori
02-28-2016, 07:51 AM
If you go to the very first post, you will see the title has changed. Not sure why it is not appearing on the new posts.

KatM, give Bonga a shot, earning money is the most important thing right now of course! I was only speaking for myself.

alexalexx
02-28-2016, 07:57 AM
If someone is being shitty to me in private I just close it and that's it.
This guy was probably for a short wank before his wife comes home or maybe just short on money.
If a guy start saying "you're such a whore" yeah he deserves a ban, but I just close the private.

KatM
02-28-2016, 08:12 AM
Girls I think you are overreacting a bit with this situation. I'm sorry, but this is just my opinion. Clearly, Bongacams made a huge mistake because they state "no chargebacks", so I think bongacams should think about it more and state clearly if there are or not chargebacks. On the other hand, I wouldn't choose the option to ban a member who's in the private show, I'll just do my thing without "hurrying up". They did not refund the member because she didn't hurry up, they refunded him because she banned him. I don't say bongacams is right or anon girl is right, I just say Bongacams should respect their rules and also I think you shouldn't ban a member when he's in your private/group/whatever.

By the way, if you think this is shitty, let me tell you I had a refund on a video on Chaturbate, because the member said he can't see my video. How cool is that? Oh btw, he already watched it once, but he couldn't see it the next time.

Bongacams if you say you don't do chargebacks refund the girl and make it your loss!

What means Ban on bonga, ban for good with no option to ever return to ur room or disconnect the member from ur room?

Not to ban a member when he is in ur paid chat no matter what he says? Are u sure of what u saying?
There are situations when u really cant do anything else but ban if he is insulting u or asks for who knows what obscene thing.
Even if u dont ban and let the session continue until he decides to leave there is no guarantee he's not asking for his money back because again 'he did not get what he wanted'.

Maybe she hurried to ban but this does not mean she did not have a reason, maybe she wanted to get rid of the idiot and make herself available for other guys but most importantly, SHE WAS COUNTING ON THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO CHARGEBACKS/ REFUNDS like bonga states.
Man, this is a serious matter, i ban paying members on SM to get rid of them cause they misbehave so i can make myself available for the other guys, i could let the pvt continue knowing SM wont refund these guys no matter if he got what he wanted or not, he paid for the time with me and if he decides to be a moron it's not my fault.
But sometimes I CHOOSE to ban cause that's what i want, i dont have to explain myself to anyone, i am my own boss & dont have to put up with idiots if i dont want to. That's what bonga need to understand, WE DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WE DONT WANT TO and they need to respect this & change their mentality, we are not in russia where people are arrested if they bad mouth the regime, LUCKILY! (not anymore in my case, i grew up in another abusive regime myself).

That's why i bitch about SM, Bonga, whoever else i feel bitching about, feels soo good to be able to bitch w.o being punished u know?
Feels amazing to be FREE! You can only understand this when u been 'imprisoned' in an abusive regime, cant understand the difference when u were born free

JessRyan
02-28-2016, 10:08 AM
I tried BC a few days last week for a few hours each time. No complaints, was just testing the waters, and for some reason I got into the top 30 and saw if I maintained it, I would get a bonus. That's nice and I wasn't even trying. I'm thinking of giving it another few weeks and see what I can do. I do get motivated by bonus $$ LOL Money motivates me very strongly. As well as my Sunday morning coffee.
I do have a question. What is their pay week? Like SM is from 4pm Saturday to the next 4pm Saturday (PST) What is Bonga's?? Gotta make a weekly strategy based on that.