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Raziel
03-17-2016, 08:26 PM
Oh wow, what a perfect example of the type of customer we like to void, this is called "a nice guy" and they are the most entitled because they think being nice is all they should ever have to do. They don't even have to listen to someone and they think they are nice.

Such nice. Much nice. Wow.

Fair enough. I don't feel particularly entitled, but if that's the way i come across... I am, believe me, no angel.

Omegaphallic
03-19-2016, 08:41 AM
Seriously!! You want women to be comfortable I dates? You want women to go home from the bar with you? One of my biggest detractors is- will I get raped/hurt/stalked? Will this guy exploit me/use me/push my limits? So I go home alone where I have a sense of safety.

http://www.funnyjunk.com/Louis+ck/funny-pictures/5436550

You misattributed that qoute to me. It was Raziel who said that not me. You had me thinking I was losing my mind because I didn't remember saying that and couldn't find comment where I had said that or why I would say it. So I did a search and found it was Raziel (aka Batman), who said it.

Omegaphallic
03-19-2016, 10:23 AM
^^You seem to be just a tad bit obsessed with the concept of feminism and men's rights and which you identify with more, and comparing the two constantly. I get it, I went through this phase too, somewhat. Then a lightbulb went off in my head one day....I consider myself a HUMAN rights activist/ supporter. It isn't about women's rights or men's rights or whatever. It's about human rights.

As far as slut shaming and encouragement and all that....I just don't care. Humans are animals. Some want to fuck everything that moves, and I don't have a problem with that. Others are whorephobic and constantly use their energy and time demeaning others who like to have sex. *yawn*

I don't see the point of this thread though. Still don't. I just find life is easier if you just stop labeling and categorizing everything all the damn time. I don't label myself feminist or men's rights activist or whatever because I think it's dumb. I support ALL human rights. What's the point of narrowing it down? Just to further divide and conquer?

I get what your saying. I think I resent feminism because I trusted Feminists (not the more extreme feminism, but the "nice feminists") and in not because I expected sex, I don't have enough self worth to believe I'm entitled to sex), only to find out most feminist research is low grade highly manipulated garbage and the other thing is the none stopped slut shaming of men, even by so called sex positive feminists, and hope you scratch my back, and I'll scratch my back too attidude of feminists when it comes to men's issues.

I originally concider MRM to be a type of feminism was all like can't we all get along with the feministss I knew and respected. Nope. So if I have to take a side, its going to be the MRM because, 1) they have their flaws but they don't lie to me, 2) why support a movement where you will treated like a second class? Compare how female MRAs are treated, near major respect, vs the male feminist who at best is treated like a good dog or worst somthing a female feminist scrapped off her shoe or even worse as a potential sex predatory 3) because the MRM deals with real issues like far too many men committing suicide, high death rate on work sites, sex assaults against men, and the high rate of false rape accusations against men, and fighting back against the corrupt and deceitful Fempire.

Omegaphallic
03-19-2016, 10:49 AM
Wow, you are all over the place in this post. It's hard to follow what you're saying. I think what your trying to say is people shouldn't be shaming anyone and everyone no matter how someone chooses to make a living should be treated with respect.

First, yes, slut shaming sucks.

Second, Fox=Stud does mean sexual attractiveness.

Third, Slut means different things to different people.

Forth, thank you for choosing to spend your money on sex workers to fulfill your fantasies. Because of things going on in our lives, we often need flexible schedules. Sex work allows us to make really good money to do the things we need to do like pay bills, support a family, but to us it's just a job.

Fifth, you don't need to learn any special techniques to get an escort to have sex with you. You just need to be screened and have the money.

Sixth, Valentine's Day is a day set aside to do something to make your "Significant Other" feel special and loved.

Seventh, yes, I imagine being a slut in the porn is something to brag about. I don't know Adriana Chechik, she may or may not be "The Ultimate Slut" in real life, but porn is not real life, just fantasy.

Some people get caught up in the fantasy, but just a friendly reminder, it just a fantasy.

Yeah I understand that porn isn't reality, nor is it supposed to me. In the erotic stories I've written there are many impossible or unlikely things, because in fiction I can explore that. Example breasts that ejuculate milk when a woman orgasms. I pretty sure that physologically impossible, but I'm a B&B man (Breasts and Brain), so enjoy the visual element of fantasy of women who ejaculate milk from their nipples.

And I do understand that its a job, with its head aches and bad days and times when you'd rather be at home, doing something else.

I don't expect that just because your a sex worker you must have a massive libdo. My point was that there are alot of men who enjoy female sexuality, and are supportive of that, that not all men which to slut shame women.

I have a massive libdo, but once in a blue moon, or way more often when I go through the mensrights reddit, that massive libdo vanishes into thin air and I don't want to be touched. If I was an escort or stripper, would I let that stop me from going to work and making money? Honestly it depends on how much I needed the money!

So I do get what your saying.

BTW if that's you in the picture under your name wow, your breathtaking. If that makes a sexist asshole for noticing so be it.

Omegaphallic
03-19-2016, 10:53 AM
Women have, very recently, been shot dead because they turned some douchebag down.


Omegaphallic, why is this the hill you want to die on? You can't possibly think you're going to get anywhere. No minds will be changed even if you were curing CANCER. You're not curing cancer, you're arguing with women on their home turf. Frankly, i hope you stay. Not that you're a punching bag or anything, but every Batman needs a Joker. I'll argue with you until doomsday.

But why are you bothering? You're not going to get anywhere.

That cool, but just remember Batman might win in the end, but the Joker has waaaaaayyyyy more fun. : D

I actually would have been a great supervillian, inspired, alast the path not taken :p .

Raziel
03-20-2016, 03:20 AM
That cool, but just remember Batman might win in the end, but the Joker has waaaaaayyyyy more fun. : D

I actually would have been a great supervillian, inspired, alast the path not taken :p .

I guess you got a point, there.

Alyssa976
09-24-2016, 04:50 AM
By credit I mean acknowledgement that many men are willing to encourage and reward women for exploring their sexuality, that many men put alot of effort into such encouragement.




I'm not exploring my sexuality when I work. I'm just trying to make money to pay for things and you are not rewarding me you are paying me for doing something that gives you gratification.

ahiuwhd82
12-04-2017, 04:10 AM
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jasmine22
12-15-2017, 09:10 AM
The biggest problem is women are not united with each other. We are now seeing women speak out collectively against sexual harassment...but I feel like we should have been doing that years ago. Instead of being jealous of each other, and calling each other sluts, maybe we could end this by shutting guys down with their double standard. Yet if I were to actually say that in the real world, people Dismiss it as something that would never happen

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-15-2017, 09:44 AM
The biggest problem is women are not united with each other. We are now seeing women speak out collectively against sexual harassment...but I feel like we should have been doing that years ago. Instead of being jealous of each other, and calling each other sluts, maybe we could end this by shutting guys down with their double standard. Yet if I were to actually say that in the real world, people Dismiss it as something that would never happen

As long as you align yourself with the right women then its not so much an issue. Sure there will still be some who may work against our interest but I think thats mostly because they are led by fear and negativity. Ive encountered other women who will try to dismiss other women as complainers or filled with nonsense because we dare to speak up or act proudly.

Whether it should have happened before now or whatever, its happening now. :) And anyone who takes issue with these changes will be left behind. Dont be afraid to speak up. I dont kbow you personally but I bet if you suppress your own voice you'll just end up angry from holding it in. Call that fuck shit out!! That one chick who might shade you is secretely in awe of your power. Eventually they will get a hold of their own insecurities and join the squad.

PinkPopcorn
12-15-2017, 11:10 AM
Me going to Starbucks today doesn't mean I support corporate giants, baristas, chic wifi hot spot areas, or anything else. It means that I got a coffee. Once money enters a transaction in exchange for a reward (in this case, coffee), it spoils any kind of 'support' and just becomes an ordinary purchase of goods/services. Spending time with a PSO doesn't mean you support PSOs on a moral level, it means that you were jerking off. You're confusing financial support with philosophical support. I doubt the majority of guys who go into a strip club are there to take a stand against the establishment's view of sex workers...they just want to see titties and drink alcohol.

Also, really, I can't recall a single time that the world was talking about men who view pornography in whatever form as being villains. The topic isn't really touched. I don't think anyone cares. You orgasmed, so what?

Ifyouseekamy
12-18-2017, 12:31 AM
Lol... Please you can encourage sluts by treating sex workers like people. And please encourage sluts by tipping! :)

Mb1tb
01-24-2018, 06:26 PM
Never thought of the word "slut" as anything positive:confused:

miss.a.p1600
01-24-2018, 06:28 PM
^ Google Amber Rose and her Slut Walk - her aim was to turn that word into something empowering so that women would not feel ashamed for being sexual, exuding sexuality, etc.

Gia2608
01-25-2018, 11:46 PM
The biggest problem is women are not united with each other. We are now seeing women speak out collectively against sexual harassment...but I feel like we should have been doing that years ago. Instead of being jealous of each other, and calling each other sluts, maybe we could end this by shutting guys down with their double standard. Yet if I were to actually say that in the real world, people Dismiss it as something that would never happen

Dude!! You are my spirit animal. Let me start by saying you made this post 2 months ago and I just gave the 2nd "like". That is fucked up. Women, especially in Western culture are so ingrained to call each other sluts and whores and ugly and ratchet and whatever the fuck else.

This is the exact reason why women, world wide (with the exception of a few countries) get paid less than men for equal work. I know most of the women on this site are SW and if we do get paid by the hour, we command our own rates but I'm talking vanilla work here. Also the reason sexual harassment/ abuse has proliferated for so long without retribution and the reason we are treated like 2nd class citizens in much of the world. Women are strong, smart and capable. We can make new people with our bodies and feed them with our bodies. Men cannot. While many men are physically stronger than most women, we do not live in a hunter/gatherer society anymore. All humans need to wake up. Brute strength is not a end all.

We would not live like we do if it wasn't for women. A woman was the first one to plant a grain seed. Created agriculture which stopped us from being nomadic and allowed us to be static. This changed how we, as human beings live in social clusters. AKA society as we know it.

Unfortunately, the patriarchy conditions much of our thinking and we hate on one another. I have ingrained on my niece to never speak of another girl that way, calling her a slut or a whore.. however more people need to do the same.

Sam38g
01-26-2018, 07:44 AM
I am a Feminist. I fight for what I believe is right, if other women don't support me I don't stop fighting for equal pay, freedom from sexual harassment & such.

Don't get people who don't fight for what they believe in because another person didn't support them. Either you believe in a cause or you don't. We wouldn't have to fight for anything if everyone just agreed. If other women not standing up for you determines whether or not you fight for Equal Rights, Equal pay & Equal protections under the law. Did you really believe in it at all if that all it takes to get you to stop?

There will always be those of the same gender, race or religion who don't have the same beliefs or fight for the same thing as you do. If we all agree then there are no issues to protest over.

There are always people who can be bought off rather cheaply who wll betray a cause for a pay check.

oldster
01-26-2018, 09:17 AM
The biggest problem is women are not united with each other. We are now seeing women speak out collectively against sexual harassment...but I feel like we should have been doing that years ago. Instead of being jealous of each other, and calling each other sluts, maybe we could end this by shutting guys down with their double standard. Yet if I were to actually say that in the real world, people Dismiss it as something that would never happen

To get a bit philosophical.....

We all need to forgive ourselves for our own genetic makeup. Why are women 'slut shaming'? Because to the primitive person inside them, sluts are dangerous. They take food and protection away from them. The whole 'get away from my man' was survival instinct 20000 years ago.

It in no way means you have to accept any 'Me Tarzan, you Jane' shit from men or any shit of any kind from anyone, but if you give some thought as to where things are coming from, you can come to an understanding of what is required to push things in an appropriate direction

We are, as a society, moving in fits and starts[and occasionally regressions] from primitive to enlightened.

We will never really be there.

We should view our progress as unacceptable, that is how we make progress in the first place

MissKelley
02-07-2018, 10:14 PM
I lost it at manosphere.