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SweetJulia
04-04-2016, 04:32 PM
Rich men can be found where rich people are found. Wealthy communities have stores, gyms, etc. I agree with everyone who says to try in person. It just seems like such a waste of time to try online, especially on free sites. There's no income verification or ID verification on sites, most guys on there don't want to pay escort rates or be screened and want a night for what escorts charge per hour. They want hot girls for strretwalker rates, I just hate that.
red.velvet
04-04-2016, 04:49 PM
supposedly they background check the men but I run my own and I know what to ask for.
Right? These men are totally mentally ill, like as in a sociopath because they are scammers that know the system. If they scam younger women this much, they are probably scamming their way around the law. The amount of men that made up ridiculous lies to cancel the dates were also a big laugh. Your mom died, you have to bottle feed your dog every 3 hours, your daughter just came in town when you told me you had no kids before? Right, ok!
At least half the men constantly cancelled and rescheduled until I cut them off. Those men would have been blacklisted the very first time by an escort, and listed as a timewaster so no other girls would have to deal with his manipulation tactics. Remember, men can get off solely on the idea that a young hot girl they've chatted with online is planning to meet them! Free orgasm for them, wasted time for you. LOL never again will I engage with these losers
red.velvet
04-05-2016, 11:15 AM
Oh man last night I sat in bed last night laughing for at least 30 minutes at the mentally unstable men I met off these sites. I should compile a list of crazy things men did or said. One man messaged me that I was an ideal match for him. We messaged about how often he wants to meet and what he would give as allowance. We start texting and then he tells me that he's looking for something specific and that "hookers" keep preventing it from happening. I ask him to elaborate about his ideal arrangement and he said he's only had an ideal one once before. He also got upset that I called it an arrangement and not a relationship.
He said he was meeting a woman off the site who used to model and they met and within 5 minutes the woman said "I don't want an arrangement anymore!" and he got up to walk away. Then the woman continued and said "No, you are great! I just don't want any money from you! Lets go back to your place and make love!" and then they went back to his house and had sex for the next 5 hours where he proceeded not to pay her anything, but because she was "not a hooker" he ended up taking her shopping the next time before they "made love" for 5 hours again.
LOL the delusion these men have! Why would a woman under 25 go out of her way to decline money from someone prepared to give her money, and then proceed to have sex with a 55+ year old man for 5 hours for no money? He's not a celebrity or anyone famous. He's not even attractive! If this is even true, which I am almost positive its not, then this was her hustle to get even more money from him. A risky hustle. There's no way this could be true. These men need mental help!
penny25
04-05-2016, 01:56 PM
red.velvet, please make a similar thread on escorting as well. What is it like escorting in LA? Which site do you find best for advertising? Eros requires ID, is cityvibe effective?
red.velvet
04-05-2016, 02:02 PM
red.velvet, please make a similar thread on escorting as well. What is it like escorting in LA? Which site do you find best for advertising? Eros requires ID, is cityvibe effective?
I meet most of my clients by being introduced through a madam. She charges him a cut instead of me. I met her through friends who are also escorts, but many are models or actresses. Its more like a sugar baby type of arrangement but its for blocks of time. I don't really advertise anymore but I do leave ads up. I advertised everywhere. Most of the men who are big spenders go through madams or agencies that have been around for a long time. They have to pay a large one time fee with detailed screening info and then log into the website to see the roster of girls.
LA is very over saturated for escorting when compared to other cities. Published girls do the best from what I've seen. Most here are career escorts and are not afraid of showing their face and linking their real social medias with professional shoots. I prefer blocks of time and anonymity over several half hour or one hour appointments, which is harder to pull off in LA unless you're introduced to the caliber of men who spend by girls in the modeling and acting crowd. Freestyling also works well because generous, wealthy men are everywhere except for the internet. I have met many freestyling. Most men in LA assume girls are pay for play anyway.
baer45
04-05-2016, 02:37 PM
Same here, most of my regulars would see me in a fashion so similar to sugar babe arrangement. I don't use sugar babe website but I do prefer to gain clients in a legal way other than escort business.
whirlerz
04-05-2016, 02:59 PM
Oh man last night I sat in bed last night laughing for at least 30 minutes at the mentally unstable men I met off these sites. I should compile a list of crazy things men did or said. One man messaged me that I was an ideal match for him. We messaged about how often he wants to meet and what he would give as allowance. We start texting and then he tells me that he's looking for something specific and that "hookers" keep preventing it from happening. I ask him to elaborate about his ideal arrangement and he said he's only had an ideal one once before. He also got upset that I called it an arrangement and not a relationship.
He said he was meeting a woman off the site who used to model and they met and within 5 minutes the woman said "I don't want an arrangement anymore!" and he got up to walk away. Then the woman continued and said "No, you are great! I just don't want any money from you! Lets go back to your place and make love!" and then they went back to his house and had sex for the next 5 hours where he proceeded not to pay her anything, but because she was "not a hooker" he ended up taking her shopping the next time before they "made love" for 5 hours again.
LOL the delusion these men have! Why would a woman under 25 go out of her way to decline money from someone prepared to give her money, and then proceed to have sex with a 55+ year old man for 5 hours for no money? He's not a celebrity or anyone famous. He's not even attractive! If this is even true, which I am almost positive its not, then this was her hustle to get even more money from him. A risky hustle. There's no way this could be true. These men need mental help!
Yep. Sounds like some of the shit they dish out. I'd LOVE IT if you put a list of the crazy stuff they do/say.
Bahuba
04-06-2016, 04:17 AM
exactly. I always meet mine at the bars, coffee shops etc around K street when I'm at school.
This might just be a DC thing - I hate to say it but, K street? Really? I was in 10 countries last year and at least 30 cities in the US for business and fun, and the guys on K street are the biggest dickholes on the planet. Corporate lawyers, lobbyists, and defense contractors - I.e. Nobody likes them. Those guys aren't wealthy, they're glorified bureaucrats.
Nothing against lawyers, but the K street ones? 95% pointless assholes.
Exxotica
04-06-2016, 05:51 AM
Yep. Sounds like some of the shit they dish out. I'd LOVE IT if you put a list of the crazy stuff they do/say.
Pretty much. Men have this perceived psychological thing where they believe they can control or overpower women by comparing them to their counterparts. I get Salty POTs ALL the time PM'ing me about how in their last arrangement the girl did X,Y,Z without money or expectations like that's supposed to make us want to be like "that girl"
Ladies seem to fall for it cause it seems to be a pretty common tactic. Not too mention ladies who come on here and question it like they're seriously contemplating whether he's telling the truth. Y'all need to get with it
Exxotica
04-06-2016, 05:52 AM
This might just be a DC thing - I hate to say it but, K street? Really? I was in 10 countries last year and at least 30 cities in the US for business and fun, and the guys on K street are the biggest dickholes on the planet. Corporate lawyers, lobbyists, and defense contractors - I.e. Nobody likes them. Those guys aren't wealthy, they're glorified bureaucrats.
Nothing against lawyers, but the K street ones? 95% pointless assholes.
I'm looking to tour in DC.. Question, do these types rely on review boards? And does freestyling as an escort work around these types?
red.velvet
04-06-2016, 09:24 PM
Pretty much. Men have this perceived psychological thing where they believe they can control or overpower women by comparing them to their counterparts. I get Salty POTs ALL the time PM'ing me about how in their last arrangement the girl did X,Y,Z without money or expectations like that's supposed to make us want to be like "that girl"
Ladies seem to fall for it cause it seems to be a pretty common tactic. Not too mention ladies who come on here and question it like they're seriously contemplating whether he's telling the truth. Y'all need to get with it
A lot of "sugar daddies" really are misguided potential escort clients who are too cheap to spend and are also deluded by their psychological problems as you said. You don't know how many men would agree to my allowance range amount, then ask for my number, text me, and then either try to talk down the amount or short me in person. When I would confront them by telling them they already agreed to my amount and I have proof in writing, they would make misogynistic remarks like "a real sugar baby does not talk down to her sugar daddy! sugar daddy makes the decisions!" Excuse me? No, misogynists shouldn't mask as "sugar daddies" and neither should cheapos.
Ladies, real sugar daddies will never be found on the internet. They are wealthy and have real lives to live so why would they be wasting their precious time looking for deals on the internet instead of living life? Time is money, and wealthy people know that best!
SkylerScarlett
04-07-2016, 08:03 AM
so far on SA it's pretty entertaining. The fun ones are the guys who demand to see you that night. UHm no!
SkylerScarlett
04-07-2016, 08:10 AM
I actually have had a lot of luck and success there.
This might just be a DC thing - I hate to say it but, K street? Really? I was in 10 countries last year and at least 30 cities in the US for business and fun, and the guys on K street are the biggest dickholes on the planet. Corporate lawyers, lobbyists, and defense contractors - I.e. Nobody likes them. Those guys aren't wealthy, they're glorified bureaucrats.
Nothing against lawyers, but the K street ones? 95% pointless assholes.
whirlerz
04-07-2016, 08:16 AM
Rich men can be found where rich people are found. Wealthy communities have stores, gyms, etc. I agree with everyone who says to try in person. It just seems like such a waste of time to try online, especially on free sites. There's no income verification or ID verification on sites, most guys on there don't want to pay escort rates or be screened and want a night for what escorts charge per hour. They want hot girls for strretwalker rates, I just hate that.
Yup, this^ Big Time
whirlerz
04-07-2016, 08:17 AM
a lot of "sugar daddies" really are misguided potential escort clients who are too cheap to spend and are also deluded by their psychological problems as you said. You don't know how many men would agree to my allowance range amount, then ask for my number, text me, and then either try to talk down the amount or short me in person. When i would confront them by telling them they already agreed to my amount and i have proof in writing, they would make misogynistic remarks like "a real sugar baby does not talk down to her sugar daddy! Sugar daddy makes the decisions!" excuse me? No, misogynists shouldn't mask as "sugar daddies" and neither should cheapos.
Ladies, real sugar daddies will never be found on the internet. They are wealthy and have real lives to live so why would they be wasting their precious time looking for deals on the internet instead of living life? Time is money, and wealthy people know that best!
& this
AnoniCat
04-07-2016, 11:45 AM
Ladies, real sugar daddies will never be found on the internet. They are wealthy and have real lives to live so why would they be wasting their precious time looking for deals on the internet instead of living life?
If only there was an appropriate way to approach some of the ultra-wealthy parents/donors at my school... Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting on an inaccessible gold mine. Kids who have never heard of a FAFSA and their parents easily pay $80k plus per year per kid.
red.velvet
04-07-2016, 01:01 PM
If only there was an appropriate way to approach some of the ultra-wealthy parents/donors at my school... Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting on an inaccessible gold mine. Kids who have never heard of a FAFSA and their parents easily pay $80k plus per year per kid.
Unless you want rumors spread about you all around school with the possibility of expulsion when you target the wrong kid's dad, I would not do it. Keep your vanilla life and your sexwork life separate.
SnuffleUffleGrass
04-07-2016, 04:59 PM
If only there was an appropriate way to approach some of the ultra-wealthy parents/donors at my school... Sometimes I feel like I'm sitting on an inaccessible gold mine. Kids who have never heard of a FAFSA and their parents easily pay $80k plus per year per kid.
I had a shot at this but passed it up- a guy who was sending his kids to a very expensive private University (rhymes with Chew Oh Gee) wanted to "take care of me" but he was so Goddamned Crazy I passed up on the chance. I could not deal with that dude. Naturally during one visit he bitched about the cost of sending the kids to this school, which made me think that he wouldn't be a good prospect for me anyways.....Maybe his wife had most of the money lol.
Bahuba
04-07-2016, 09:37 PM
I actually have had a lot of luck and success there.
LOL oh shit I just saw the "future securities lawyer" in your sig after sandbagging the profession. Truth be told I have a dozen securities lawyers as acquaintances in DC, mostly folks at debevoise, and they are decent people. Still, I'd wager that crowd is escort crowd rather than SB crowd, as I said.
SweetJulia
04-08-2016, 12:10 AM
Yup, this^ Big Time
I've been having the worst day, thanks for agreeing with me. But yeah, rich guys much prefer to see people in real life, not photoshopped pics who can be catfishing. Real guys don't want their time wasted, time wasters don't care, cu they're essentially doing the same thing.
Vyanka
04-08-2016, 06:00 PM
I met a chic who scored a really good guy on SA, but seriously the most disgusting looking guy. Oh well. He bought her an apartment, car, school, gifts, etc.
SA is full of broke ass cheap frauds, but weeding through you can probably find one.
My friend met a guy who wanted to give her 10k a month, but she couldn't. She was repulsed.
Vyanka
04-08-2016, 06:13 PM
I have to ask. Hope somebody can shed some light on this SA thing. I cam. I don't escort or sugar. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Never met anyone in person from camming. A stock broker that I know personally comes to Vegas and sometimes Laughlin. He is a cheap bastard too. He was a friend of my ex. He knows I cam. Every time he comes to town he wants to meet for drinks. I say no I have to work. He says sure no problem I will pay you for your night. I told him how much on a Friday night. He laughed his ass off at it. He said Ginger if I want sex all I have to do is go to SA and I can get a hot young chick to the hotel for $150/$200. I told him sweetie I won't get out of bed and put make up on for less than $200 let alone drive 3 hours to fuck you. So here is the story. He texted me if I wanted to drive to Laughlin. Laughlin why would I drive there? So no. Not driving to Laughlin. Later I texted him if he found company. Yes SA girl he has met before. This is the part I do not understand. According to him this SA girl that is also a stripper drove from Vegas to laughlin to meet with him, hang out, have sex, and drive back to Vegas for $200. He sent photos, etc. He said she was there from 4pm till 7pm. Asked for another $200 to spend the night. I told him he is a liar. No cute young stripper would do that for $200. He said it was a Sunday. So it was easier to drive to Laughlin for the $200. My question is this. Is this guy telling the truth? $200? Seriously? I contend that there is not a chance in hell a cute young stripper that works in Vegas would do that for $200. Do you?
Doubt that was a stripper. Most of those guys specify that they don't want strippers either.
SkylerScarlett
04-09-2016, 07:23 AM
So far so good. Yes you get the time wasters and all that but so far most of the guys Ive talked to and the 5 Ive met have been OK. I did have 1 send me like a 5 page questionaire. But its no different than the guys I've met at the club and I usually can figure out the liars and broke assholes pretty easily there.
SnuffleUffleGrass
04-09-2016, 07:54 AM
I met a chic who scored a really good guy on SA, but seriously the most disgusting looking guy. Oh well. He bought her an apartment, car, school, gifts, etc.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. If you can't stomach the guy (in my mind neglect of health & poor attitude are worse than being pug ugly) there is no way a "free" car, apartment, allowance etc. are gonna be enough.....I mean you can always get a job & get those things.
& Side note- pick a SD with an occupation. The stories I hear about shitheaded Trustfundian dudes makes me amazed at the level of self-loathing some of their girlfriends/wives must have to put up with them for $$$$.
NoRegrets
04-09-2016, 08:00 AM
The stories I hear about shitheaded Trustfundian dudes makes me amazed at the level of self-loathing some of their girlfriends/wives must have to put up with them for $$$$.
QTF. There's a great documentary about the children of wealthy people. They are truly messed up.
SnuffleUffleGrass
04-09-2016, 08:08 AM
QTF. There's a great documentary about the children of wealthy people. They are truly messed up.
I don't want to post it on the Internet for liability reasons but I have seen some truly terrible things done by the rotten spawn of the super rich. In other words, this is why kidnapping rich kids in some countries is so common, no one feels bad about it except maybe the rich kid's mom..lol
SkylerScarlett
04-09-2016, 08:24 AM
Most SD's arent all creepy or old middle aged guys. There are some. So far Ive been pretty happy and satisified with SA and other sites. No different than setting up any arrangement as a dancer.
NoRegrets
04-09-2016, 08:25 AM
I don't want to post it on the Internet for liability reasons but I have seen some truly terrible things done by the rotten spawn of the super rich.
I've seen it first hand. It's often very sad and tragic as well. Years ago one of my friends gave 6M to their son when he turned 18. A couple of years later he was back living with them after blowing the money and going to rehab. Another person I know had their daughter cut off contact with them because they "only" gave her 10M.
On the other hand look at Warren Buffet's children. They turned out well adjusted regular people. But he made sure they didn't get an inheritance and they had to make their own way in the world. If they end up inheriting his wealth (he's actually giving it away to charity) it wouldn't change who they are.
There's the saying: Give your children enough so that they can do anything, not so much so that they can do nothing
Most SD's arent all creepy or old middle aged guys. There are some. So far Ive been pretty happy and satisified with SA and other sites. No different than setting up any arrangement as a dancer.
It's good to see someone that has had a good experience on that website. For myself it was a major time sink. I would have to sift through so many messages and then prove that I was real. When I meet someone IRL they know instantly who I am, that I'm not a scammer/fake, and if we have basic chemistry. It's so much quicker and easier to meet someone at a event, bar, club, or airport.
BTW, do you snowboard, ski, or both?
lynn2009
04-09-2016, 10:37 AM
QTF. There's a great documentary about the children of wealthy people. They are truly messed up.
What is the documentary called?
NoRegrets
04-09-2016, 01:31 PM
^ It's called Born Rich. The filmmaker was himself a child of a wealthy family. He was sued by one of the kids that appeared in it.
http://www.amazon.com/Born-Rich-Documentary-Jamie-Johnson/dp/B002TK6XZ0
msjoiparker
04-09-2016, 03:18 PM
The reality is that most of them don't know how to escort or they would be doing that instead. Or they are happy to be paid a couple hundred dollars for hours and hours of this man's time (with sex), so ignore the fantasy. I tell it like it is
Ditto a lot of sb tumbles DO sound tgtbt
msjoiparker
04-09-2016, 03:24 PM
&& what is freestyling as far as #sexwork goes
Spicecake
04-09-2016, 03:26 PM
I've had some luck with sites but there are way more Splenda daddies than anything. I had more luck on AM before the privacy debacle. I met a few rich single guys that were lured in by the whole discreet joint risk concept, my first real SD no sex expected.
Vyanka
04-09-2016, 04:17 PM
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. If you can't stomach the guy (in my mind neglect of health & poor attitude are worse than being pug ugly) there is no way a "free" car, apartment, allowance etc. are gonna be enough.....I mean you can always get a job & get those things.
& Side note- pick a SD with an occupation. The stories I hear about shitheaded Trustfundian dudes makes me amazed at the level of self-loathing some of their girlfriends/wives must have to put up with them for $$$$.
This chic is getting paid as well. The guy is stupid loaded, and hard in the eyes. Power to her. I couldn't. I wish.
whirlerz
04-09-2016, 04:26 PM
I would totally be Vyanka's sugar pal! :)
whirlerz
04-09-2016, 04:30 PM
^ It's called Born Rich. The filmmaker was himself a child of a wealthy family. He was sued by one of the kids that appeared in it.
http://www.amazon.com/Born-Rich-Documentary-Jamie-Johnson/dp/B002TK6XZ0
Oh wow, the J & J heir! I read about his wife, she died pretty much broke after inheriting 300+ mill from her late hubs
whirlerz
04-09-2016, 04:43 PM
I've been having the worst day, thanks for agreeing with me. But yeah, rich guys much prefer to see people in real life, not photoshopped pics who can be catfishing. Real guys don't want their time wasted, time wasters don't care, cu they're essentially doing the same thing.
I LOVE most EVERYTHING you say! See I have your quote as a sig? & another where I had 3 rofl's, where you told a girl who was worried about her boobs "what about the guy paying to see, is that something to be proud of" ahahaha!!!
SkylerScarlett
04-09-2016, 04:55 PM
both.
red.velvet
04-10-2016, 10:43 AM
I've had some luck with sites but there are way more Splenda daddies than anything. I had more luck on AM before the privacy debacle. I met a few rich single guys that were lured in by the whole discreet joint risk concept, my first real SD no sex expected.
The average going rate appears to be $200 for 5-6 hours of time including sex, from these websites. This is what I was told by many of these men, and I am a $700 per hour escort who used to model. Obviously these men are scammers, but at the same time I don't think they would keep throwing out that number unless other girls were in fact taking the bait. I'm really disappointed it has gotten to the point where $200 for 6 hours with sex is worth it for pretty college girls. They could make than in one hour of stripping and even twice as much for one hour as a brand new escort.
NoRegrets
04-10-2016, 12:51 PM
The average going rate appears to be $200 for 5-6 hours of time including sex, from these websites. This is what I was told by many of these men, and I am a $700 per hour escort who used to model. Obviously these men are scammers, but at the same time I don't think they would keep throwing out that number unless other girls were in fact taking the bait. I'm really disappointed it has gotten to the point where $200 for 6 hours with sex is worth it for pretty college girls. They could make than in one hour of stripping and even twice as much for one hour as a brand new escort.
There's no reason to get disappointed. If some women are happy with $200 for 5-6 hours that's fine. It's their choice. I'm sure there are guys that would get pissed at what I spend. I could care less what they think. My money, my choice. I'm sure the guys spending $700 for time with you are happy. They could care less if someone else is spending $200 or getting it for free. I spend what I do on my SB because I want to be with HER, not with a $200 college girl.
SkylerScarlett
04-10-2016, 02:32 PM
Anyone who does this would be stupid to do it for $200.00. I can make that in an hour at a club or even doing shotgirl or bottle service. The girls that do this for $200 are either naive or desperate.
red.velvet
04-12-2016, 01:41 PM
There's no reason to get disappointed. If some women are happy with $200 for 5-6 hours that's fine. It's their choice. I'm sure there are guys that would get pissed at what I spend. I could care less what they think. My money, my choice. I'm sure the guys spending $700 for time with you are happy. They could care less if someone else is spending $200 or getting it for free. I spend what I do on my SB because I want to be with HER, not with a $200 college girl.
Absolutely untrue. You have to care what the majority of other girls are charging because they collectively determine what you as a sugar baby or provider can charge. This is why its impossible to make decent money on sugar baby websites now. Too many desperate women have resorted to accepting low pay for their time including sex, so now men expect to pay that range. The sites are now oversaturated with desperate girls so the girls who originally charged more can no longer do so.
The very same thing happened with escorting where it drove down rates and continues to do so. Just because you charge twice as much as the girls in your same age and looks demographic doesn't mean you'll get booked a lot. You won't. Its supply and demand, so girls absolutely have to care!