View Full Version : Official Thread MySecretPayment.com - A New Model Run Payment Processor
gingerstcyr
11-13-2016, 04:45 PM
Good Lord. Just pay the woman!
According to the owner her check would not go out until 11/28th maybe sooner. Not entirely acceptable considering my pot dealer takes Google wallet.
chloemay
11-13-2016, 06:36 PM
BUMP Pay Her.
JessRyan
11-20-2016, 08:20 AM
According to the owner her check would not go out until 11/28th maybe sooner. Not entirely acceptable considering my pot dealer takes Google wallet.
True and a business owner makes exceptions all the time, but NOT IN THIS CASE. STILL Not paid and I will bump this and keep it on the front page forever
Selenasecret
11-20-2016, 12:43 PM
Just read through this and all I can say is wow!
I stayed away from model run tags for anything related to camming as I know how I can loose interest sometimes. But as many have pointed out you need a huge resource to cope with the issues that arise.
Cam model starting up their own cam site? Well can they afford the bandwidth that the freeloaders use? Can they afford all the ups to keep the servers on no matter what. Can they afford the charge backs and still make payment.
Taking 15% commission does that really cover the bills? Keep the lights on. Cover rental in that spare server rack? Can you handle a huge infulx of traffic? Or even afford it?
I am gutted to hear anyone having to beg for money they worked hard to earn. Setting up a payment processor / camsite is a far cry from creating your own whitelabel.
Fingers crossed anyone owed gets their money and the company just doesnt go bankrupt to avoid payouts.
gingerstcyr
11-29-2016, 03:06 PM
Hey! Did you get paid yet? Did she issue the check? I sure would love to see this end for you
JessRyan
11-29-2016, 04:53 PM
nope not yet
Erika_Xstacy
11-29-2016, 05:33 PM
Well then keep this thread going
gingerstcyr
11-29-2016, 10:51 PM
I guess it has turned into later and not sooner. I just do not understand how one cam model can treat another one like this and be so cavalier with another persons money.
chloemay
11-30-2016, 02:35 PM
I guess it has turned into later and not sooner. I just do not understand how one cam model can treat another one like this and be so cavalier with another persons money.
Agreed, and I hope we keep bumping this thread so it can be easily seen until/unless she FINALLY coughs up the money. Esp since Ashley makes so much in 15 minutes or whatever.
sarabimaraj
11-30-2016, 05:23 PM
This is really ridiculous. I can't believe she is acting like everyone else is in the wrong but her and she still owes people money!
Femmestudent
11-30-2016, 06:25 PM
http://www.vevo.com/watch/rihanna/bitch-better-have-my-money-(explicit)/QM5FT1590005
*her money
JessRyan
12-02-2016, 08:03 AM
According to the owner her check would not go out until 11/28th maybe sooner. Not entirely acceptable considering my pot dealer takes Google wallet.
nope nadda
hyori
12-02-2016, 10:36 AM
Then we'll just keep bumping this thread.
gingerstcyr
12-02-2016, 03:22 PM
This is bullshit. About to get all legal up in here.
bbwbrianna
12-02-2016, 06:57 PM
Such an unprofessional Woman running this site from what I've read! Why is it so hard to pay models on time? Why act childish and defensive when models just want their money? If it was this Woman's money, I guarantee she would throw a fit. I saw this exact same scenario on another thread. Seems to be a frequent occurrence unfortunately. Which is why Katy Boelyn is the only studio I would work under. Her staff always makes sure I get my payments on time and have been nothing but courteous and professional with me.
Femmestudent
12-05-2016, 01:01 AM
time for another bump? Pay her!
chloemay
12-05-2016, 08:19 AM
time for another bump? Pay her!
Exactly: PAY THE MODEL
JessRyan
12-05-2016, 09:47 AM
I just emailed Ashly asking when I should expect my check. I just want to be done with this. I'll let you know what, if anything I find out.
gingerstcyr
12-07-2016, 12:49 AM
I wonder why this woman is being such a HUGE bitch over paying a model the money she is owed? Let us know if she pays you. I think every model here should email her and ask why. Maybe everybody Tweet her and ask why.
Kitcatt
12-07-2016, 04:46 AM
She already blocked me, haha
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-07-2016, 04:56 PM
I wonder why this woman is being such a HUGE bitch over paying a model the money she is owed? Let us know if she pays you. I think every model here should email her and ask why. Maybe everybody Tweet her and ask why.
Maybe it makes her feel powerful knowing that she's pissing people off? #Petty is the new black honey. Personally I only find it entertaining when its a meme, but unfortunately lots of people really are living that life.
gingerstcyr
12-07-2016, 05:58 PM
Petty? Not petty. It's theft. It's illegal. It's unethical. It's unprofessional. There is no logical reason for this and is vindictive. Jess worked hard for that money and trusted Ashley Sinclair to pay her the money she earned. I would contact Visa or Mastercard Merchant services. Tell them of the problem. Call her bank too. Her husband is also involved in this because it comes out of his personal bank account. Something pretty screwy going on. She can't just keep her money. Also file complaints with the BBB as well. There is a pretty easy form on the FTC site for consumer complaints as well. If she starts generating paperwork, inquiries, and follow ups she will grow tired of having to answer. Sucks having to work for your money twice but this unconscionable. It's not in dispute. That money belongs to Jess. PAY HER!!
EdithOutlier
12-07-2016, 10:34 PM
Wow, this is an abject lesson in how to screw your industry cred.
loveshooks
12-09-2016, 03:33 AM
^^^agreed but it goes beyond cred in the industry, this kind of thing reveals character that applies to every facet of one's life. in all honesty fucking astounded that someone could behave this way.
as per Ginger this situation is 100% straight up unethical and wrong. I process payments as well and there is absolutely NO legitimate reason for her to be holding funds this long. different gateways and banks have different systems and I'm familiar with most. The site owner has absolutely been paid for your work performed.
the payment was due to be sent out at the latest on November 28, which makes 8 business days, nine if you count the 28th of Nov.
mail within the US generally doesn't take that long, @Jess as someone who receives checks from multiple sites how long does it typically take to reach you?
that's probably the best indicator at this point as to whether the payment was actually sent.
will delete this after Jess gets paid so I don't come off as advertising. For your sake Jess hope that is soon and as a peer I am so fucking sorry you have been treated this way.
Selenasecret
12-09-2016, 03:45 AM
Hell I get USA checks in the UK within 3 days.
chloemay
12-09-2016, 08:17 AM
Bump because it is important that models see this thread.
JessRyan
12-09-2016, 11:24 AM
^^^agreed but it goes beyond cred in the industry, this kind of thing reveals character that applies to every facet of one's life. in all honesty fucking astounded that someone could behave this way.
as per Ginger this situation is 100% straight up unethical and wrong. I process payments as well and there is absolutely NO legitimate reason for her to be holding funds this long. different gateways and banks have different systems and I'm familiar with most. The site owner has absolutely been paid for your work performed.
the payment was due to be sent out at the latest on November 28, which makes 8 business days, nine if you count the 28th of Nov.
mail within the US generally doesn't take that long, @Jess as someone who receives checks from multiple sites how long does it typically take to reach you?
that's probably the best indicator at this point as to whether the payment was actually sent.
will delete this after Jess gets paid so I don't come off as advertising. For your sake Jess hope that is soon and as a peer I am so fucking sorry you have been treated this way.
Thanks everyone. Just update, I'm still not paid. I briefly communicated with AS thru text 3 days ago,(after she failed to reply to my email from 3 days before that) I'm trying to be as civil as I can, but still don't have a positive word from her. I just clarified my final payment due is $159. And my mailing address...silence. The last check I got from her (once mailed) took only a few days to get, (AFTER a struggle to get that one) so I'm at a loss for this whole drama. I know what I did to EARN that $159 and that is what bothers me the most. (fellow camgirls know those shows)
JessRyan
12-09-2016, 11:25 AM
You can delete that ^^above post too, or I can delete it (I really hate being attached to so many negative posts) after I'm paid Loveshooks thanks
CharleyQuinn
12-10-2016, 08:12 PM
*bump*
MistressX
12-11-2016, 02:19 AM
I had a guy contact me for a custom clip a while before this shit went down. I gave him the address to my payment page. When all this went down, I went in there and closed my account.. or so I thought. I took the steps needed on the site to do so.. fast forward to like a week ago and this guy, without messaging me again, just sends the money out of the blue. It was months and months ago he had contacted me originally. So after not hearing from him since then I suddenly get money for his clip and I have to tell him I am no longer working with her and I've closed my account. But the problem is the money went through and was approved! And he has been trying to get hold of her for almost a week now to try and get it refunded but she has not responded. I really don't know what to tell him. I know its his fault for just sending the money but my page should not have still been up in the first place for him to revisit in his bookmarks as I had closed my account. Or at the very least the payment should not have gone through. And as suspected I can still log into my account on MSP and guess what? ZERO dollars showing in the portal, but I have his receipt that went through as approved in my email and it was taken out of his bank account. This is a shit show.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-11-2016, 09:03 AM
I had a guy contact me for a custom clip a while before this shit went down. I gave him the address to my payment page. When all this went down, I went in there and closed my account.. or so I thought. I took the steps needed on the site to do so.. fast forward to like a week ago and this guy, without messaging me again, just sends the money out of the blue. It was months and months ago he had contacted me originally. So after not hearing from him since then I suddenly get money for his clip and I have to tell him I am no longer working with her and I've closed my account. But the problem is the money went through and was approved! And he has been trying to get hold of her for almost a week now to try and get it refunded but she has not responded. I really don't know what to tell him. I know its his fault for just sending the money but my page should not have still been up in the first place for him to revisit in his bookmarks as I had closed my account. Or at the very least the payment should not have gone through. And as suspected I can still log into my account on MSP and guess what? ZERO dollars showing in the portal, but I have his receipt that went through as approved in my email and it was taken out of his bank account. This is a shit show.
Tell him to do a chargeback. Its not dishonest to do so if you aren't getting what you pay for. He can word it however he likes to spare himself the embarrassment. You can even request a chargeback through messenger depending on his banking.
drearea
12-12-2016, 06:26 PM
Forum is pretty active today, this is getting close to the bottom.
And up it goes.
MistressX
12-12-2016, 09:23 PM
She gave him his money back finally. He said he was going to do a chargeback.. Not sure if he said that to her or not (probably). But whatever.. I can't be too mad because it was his fault for sending a payment without even telling me. I mean its common sense that if you discuss a custom clip you'll give a heads up right before you send a payment on the day you intend on sending it, and especially so if that clip discussion happened like 6 months ago.
So my question is if refunds can be issued comparatively quickly, why cant Jess get paid?
drearea
12-12-2016, 09:32 PM
She gave him his money back finally. He said he was going to do a chargeback.. Not sure if he said that to her or not (probably). But whatever.. I can't be too mad because it was his fault for sending a payment without even telling me. I mean its common sense that if you discuss a custom clip you'll give a heads up right before you send a payment on the day you intend on sending it, and especially so if that clip discussion happened like 6 months ago.
So my question is if refunds can be issued comparatively quickly, why cant Jess get paid?
The reason given repeatedly was:
cuz she chose the check option.
Isn't that all the logic in the world condensed like Tide laundry detergent? Especially when the check should have arrived by last week but didn't.
MistressX
12-12-2016, 09:39 PM
Yeah even selena said she gets checks to the UK in like 3 days. Is it coming by snail?
drearea
12-12-2016, 10:06 PM
I hear they have their own paper processing production on site, so the tree to make the check was cut down on the 28th of last month.
Selenasecret
12-13-2016, 02:33 AM
What a shower of shit. So glad I never signed up. USA checks literally arrive 3-4days because I put so many in the bank the bank actually lets me have the money in 3 days as well so checks are a valid option and pretty quick given the time it takes payment processing and time to clear on payonner.
Why cant they just pay this poor girl. Its a fucking disgrace
JessRyan
12-13-2016, 02:03 PM
still no word after repeatedly texting, "when should I expect my final check?" Why am I not being paid? 2 reasons I believe I will never be paid. First, I think Ashley believes I'm the one who started this whole shit pile against her. Second, I'm small fries, not a top model who has no pull. She knows she can get away without paying me.
Selenasecret
12-13-2016, 03:25 PM
No hunny your someone who has worked their arse off. Not small fries at all. I just hope anyone who is thinking of signing up reads this shit first.
Raeleigh
12-13-2016, 03:54 PM
Hahahaha Ashley apologize? Highly doubt it. What do I know though? I'm just a "dead broke" girl who begs for her own money at late hours of the night. She's an unprofessional vindictive chick. I thought she could make that kind of money in 15 minutes?! I don't blame you Jess, for feeling like she's blaming you for all of this. Any way she can mess with us, she will. She proved that by doing what she did to PayRaeleigh.com...even mysecretpayment.com speaks for the kind of person she is. I was with her for over a year, and she did help me at the beginning and I honestly think since she was helpful/sent a few customers to me (not that I asked for the customers... lets be honest too, if I get paid so does she) she thought paying whenever the fuck she wanted to was cool. I'm truly disgusted that she tried to potentially fuck up my career by blatantly lying about me. Who does that? Not a professional.
Pay Jess her damn money so this can be over already!!!
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Snowy0Star
12-14-2016, 02:55 AM
Hahahaha Ashley apologize? Highly doubt it. What do I know though? I'm just a "dead broke" girl who begs for her own money at late hours of the night. She's an unprofessional vindictive chick. I thought she could make that kind of money in 15 minutes?! I don't blame you Jess, for feeling like she's blaming you for all of this. Any way she can mess with us, she will. She proved that by doing what she did to PayRaeleigh.com
4684446845
I cant believe that snippy blurb is the only thing on that page still like its been what two months now? does she plan on leaving it up like that till the page expires ? lets not even get into the fact that didn't you pay for that shit to get the site up and that's what she does to it ?
chloemay
12-14-2016, 09:53 AM
Hahahaha Ashley apologize? Highly doubt it. What do I know though? I'm just a "dead broke" girl who begs for her own money at late hours of the night. She's an unprofessional vindictive chick. I thought she could make that kind of money in 15 minutes?! I don't blame you Jess, for feeling like she's blaming you for all of this. Any way she can mess with us, she will. She proved that by doing what she did to PayRaeleigh.com...even mysecretpayment.com speaks for the kind of person she is. I was with her for over a year, and she did help me at the beginning and I honestly think since she was helpful/sent a few customers to me (not that I asked for the customers... lets be honest too, if I get paid so does she) she thought paying whenever the fuck she wanted to was cool. I'm truly disgusted that she tried to potentially fuck up my career by blatantly lying about me. Who does that? Not a professional.
Pay Jess her damn money so this can be over already!!!
4684446845
Agreed, esp about being disgusted. What slimy behavior that is for Ashley to exhibit. At this point it is beyond stupid not to pay any and all models who are owed money- for her own benefit and to salvage some sort of reputation. And take that message down!
Raeleigh
12-14-2016, 11:18 AM
In Ashley's eyes all of us are wrong and she is right. I don't think that will ever change. Her payment processor was obviously not important enough to her and we all got placed on the back burner. I have an email where we were discussing my domain lol. She says right in it that "most girls buy their own domains. Lol Idk why though" ... Geeeee I wonder fucking why!? Also I like how it says "this models store is closed" as if she closed it. I closed down my own account and that's what she did to it. If that message on my domain was really true, why hadn't she told me we were done along time ago?! If this were really true, a professional business woman would have come to me with these so called complaints. It's not like you can't go onto Skype and see calls/duration of said call lol. What experienced model would only take a customers word over the model they have working with them and then not tell the model anything about any complaints lol. If I was costing her money, I would have been talked to immediately by her. Why is it that when I came forward all this crazy stuff about me not doing shows and stealing money came out of the woodwork? Interesting. What a nifty coincidence. I also liked the percentage of refund she was using to make it look worse. 1 out of 4 transactions needed to be refunded. Dude finally got an email from her after I got my money. Honestly I don't even know if he got his money back. She has (well was supposed to) refunded 2 ppl out of almost 1 year and a half with her. As a model I refuse to do a show for men who make me uncomfortable so it is what it is. The fact that she used that against me is ridiculous. I thought she was going to put my domain in my name for me. I didn't know how to do all of that at the time and I didn't want to mess it up. I actually think it's hilarious she has her site with that shit on it. Who in their right mind would read that and go "Yess, this is the payment portal I need!" Lol she also HAD someone who kicked ass! She had Ivy & couldn't fucking keep up. So which is it? Kick ass but don't kick too much ass! If you can make our measly money in 15 minutes this whole 6 page post wouldn't be here!
PAY JESS HER MONEY ASHLEY!
JessRyan
12-17-2016, 01:11 PM
I really want this to be my last post on this thread. No I have not been paid, and Ashely has never returned any of my text messages or emails. I know the 2 clients who made the last 2 payments I'm due, and they did not charge back. I do not believe I will ever be paid. You know the old "dog with a bone" saying?
I did read back this entire thread and I thank God I purchased my OWN domain name which Ashely can never poison with her spiteful venom. www.whootyjessryan.com
I am also thankful that I'm out only $159 I'm thankful I figured this out before any other transactions were made. I am thankful for an open public forum such as Stripper Web where others can search and read for themselves what happened to all of us.
I would like to request that this thread be a sticky to remain on the front page and if the moderator sees necessary to close it completely? I don't believe Ashely has anything to add that would be of any good, as well as any of us? I also believe that by virtue of this thread, and by simply virtue of KARMA, My Secret Payment is done
sexysusie
12-18-2019, 04:08 PM
Heads up this model is at it again
52484
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-18-2019, 05:51 PM
I'm not trying to ruffle up ANY feathers, but please, please, please independent contractors; STOP just signing up to any and every site that cries "We're model/adult run!" Nah, son! I'm over it.
MOST of these model-ran pop up payment processors do not have near the amount of start up cash they need to even pay you on time. They'll let you use their processor, give you 75-85% of YOUR money HAHAH, and are waiting on a damn prayer that the processor they use, will PAY YOU! What? NO MA'AM! That is THEIR responsibility if you don't get paid ON TIME, Every time. If the business has LESS than $20-30K in START UP funds(FOR PAYROLL; why fuck with them? Most of them are borrowing Peter to pay Paul, acting flashy because they've hustled longer and bought a few houses, BIH WHERE?
The minute this chick acted flashy about the several homes and vehicles she earned, I wanted to snatch her soul; but I left it alone. As if YOUR investments have fuck all to do with paying someone and running a damn payment processor. I have a beautiful home and vehicle too, but I wouldn't dare use that as any sort of proof that I'm ballin' enough to run a thriving business. HA. Really? Before I took responsibility of anyone's checks, you better believe I'd have enough cash in MY PERSONAL ACCOUNTS to pay everyone and their mother, ON TIME. ALWAYS!
I'll say this again. Let YEARS and or TIMELINE be your reasoning for shifting your clients and business. If they don't have enough saved off to cover ALL emergencies ($20k or more), don't do it, unless they have a history of paying EVERYONE in a timely manner. Mark from CMD is the perfect example. Also, you don't know if they're stealing your clients and adding them to a mailing list on the sly so they can get more of your dough or not. Like, what if 20 models made $1k that week? YOU'RE FUCKED!
As a note for ALL future model-run processors/gateways. Get your ducks in a row first, and have some friggin START UP CASH and a NEST EGG BEFORE you pimp your payment processor out. I'm sick and tired of hearing models not getting paid on time, or at all because everyone jumps ship so fast just because a model broad is running it. Good for you that you have so much money for luxury cars and real estate, but you can't pay models on time LMFAO.
And this is for those who call themselves 'site owners'. Get your shit together, or get draggedttt publicly. PERIOD! If the minute shit hits the fan and all you can do is blame the processor or the model for "having an inactive account" you should't be running SHIT! You're the one that chose the damn gateway/processor in the first place which means that's YOUR responsibility. No matter if the people who pay you get their 'laptops stolen' or they hold your money in reserve for 6 months. SO?! If you don't have THOUSANDS in your PERSONAL accounts to pay contractors. You shouldn't be running ANYTHING!!!
I don't know how I missed this post the first time around?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-18-2019, 05:53 PM
Heads up this model is at it again
52484
I'm a little confused about the PayMe service. That's a money app for HongKong.
sexysusie
12-18-2019, 08:37 PM
I'm a little confused about the PayMe service. That's a money app for HongKong.
No clue. But I checked the twitter account and Ashley is indeed touting another payment service.
JessRyan
12-20-2019, 09:23 AM
oh this makes my fucking blood boil. And almost EXACTLY 3 years later...she thought the dust had settled on this..and she's got a new batch of newbie models to feed off of...ah HELL NO
arielbriel
08-07-2020, 04:35 PM
I checked her twitter and HOLY hell, that girl is so cocky, she has a terrible attitude.