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fbsmgirl
09-18-2016, 07:45 PM
Quality DOES correlate to price, or at least it should as a pretty basic economic principle. Either this girl is a raging idiot, is really not that high quality, or you live in crackhead central where prices have been driven down by desperation..I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around having some dude stick his strange dick in me (whether or not you've showered first lmao) for..100 bucks. Just no. Good god,.

mwahahahahaha !!

A man I know up in NYC sees girls for no more than $100. He told me that one day he called up his "ATF" and asked if she had any specials and she said " How bout $45 and some church's chicken". I damn near fell out of my chair laughing. I've heard similar stories but couldn't believe that that sort of thing went down in NYC of all places.

November_Scorpio
09-18-2016, 09:14 PM
mwahahahahaha !!

A man I know up in NYC sees girls for no more than $100. He told me that one day he called up his "ATF" and asked if she had any specials and she said " How bout $45 and some church's chicken". I damn near fell out of my chair laughing. I've heard similar stories but couldn't believe that that sort of thing went down in NYC of all places.

Like escorting, the price of strippers often is dictated by looks and demand(how many guys are chasing after the girl). I can get a lot of things from the club that guys get from escorts that are not sexual: like companionship, talking time, massages, Dinner & Movie dates, webcams, etc... and sexual too like grinding lapdances at a very cheap price if I pick the right girls. I stay away from the top girls in the clubs a lot of times just because their looks and the demand(a ton of guys tipping her on stage) according to the laws of supply & demand causes her prices to skyrocket. I don't need a knockout to get me off, a stripper with just average looks will do the trick and save me money. I can get pretty good deals in the clubs and thus go to the clubs more frequently too by hunting down girls who have a low supply of customers compared to top girls and have a few things that would deter some guys. She might be a little heavy, or too skinny, or in her 30's, have a scar, be black or Latino(white girls seem to get all the attention it seems). Her looks are not that important to me, I have an ideal body type I like but I tend to go after cheaper girls instead. A stripper who is in her 30's and 50 lbs overweight can still get me off very easily in lap-dances by grinding me and I still will be very sexually attracted to her even if she is 50 lbs over weight. I tend to be highly sexually attracted too all kinds of women, doesn't take much in the looks department for me to get stiff in the pants. I tend to get sexually excited extremely easily, it doesn't take much in the looks department for me to get a stiffy in the pants simply by looking at a woman.

We had a rabbit like you
09-19-2016, 09:02 AM
^ holy fuck that was some racist, ageist shit right there! "She could be black or latino, her looks aren't all that important to me" wowwwww lol is it just me who took it that way

threlayer
09-19-2016, 09:23 AM
^ either that or two separate thoughts, but poorly worded in any case.

absolutelyadorable
09-19-2016, 09:27 AM
^ holy fuck that was some racist, ageist shit right there! "She could be black or latino, her looks aren't all that important to me" wowwwww lol is it just me who took it that way

No, that's how I read it, too. Possibly poorly worded? But still. Wow.

November_Scorpio
09-19-2016, 02:41 PM
^ holy fuck that was some racist, ageist shit right there! "She could be black or latino, her looks aren't all that important to me" wowwwww lol is it just me who took it that way

Nothing racist about it, maybe way your misinterpreting the words. My girlfriend is Latino and I get lapdances from black and Latino dancers all the time. I said she could be black or Latino because I know a lot of white guys who refuse to get dances from dancers who are not white, I myself don't care.

If Im racist why is my girlfriend Latino , lol now that is hilarious.

Lets see evidence of racist: Gets dances and VIPs from black and Latino dancers, has no problems hanging out at all black clubs, has all kinds of black and latino friends, has dated black and Latino girls, his girlfriend is Latino. Yep definitely sounds racist. Next time I visit an all black strip club like the Factory in Chicago remind me to tell some of the dancers who I have seen for a long time there that I just found out I was a racist and didn't know it. There are times I go to predominately black clubs and I am the only white guy in there, it doesn't bother me in the least. I know many white guys who wouldn't even bother to visit the club once or visit. Gee yeah sounds very racist to me, lol.

One of my all time favorite dancers was a black dancer with a Scorpion tattoo on her stomach. Got all kinds of dances and VIPs from her from two different clubs she worked at, definitely sounds racist to me lol.

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 03:12 PM
Actually, you can have racist tendencies and still have a non-white girlfriend. You can be a sexual conquistador who actively seek out Latina, Asian, Native American and black women because you want to be in the position of power and think they are cheap. You made that statement about some white men thinking that Black and Latina dancers are cheaper. So, they openly used them sexually and emotionally to make themselves feel better. Thus, you become like Herman Cortez and become a conquistador. Why do I say this term Sexual conquistador? Because the conquistadors came to Latin America and used women of color to become their sexual playthings. Colonialistic attitudes +Lust+ Power+ Privilege= Sexual conquistador. No, I am not talking about the urban dictionary definition of sexual conquistador. :)



Nothing racist about it, maybe way your misinterpreting the words. My girlfriend is Latino and I get lapdances from black and Latino dancers all the time. I said she could be black or Latino because I know a lot of white guys who refuse to get dances from dancers who are not white, I myself don't care.

If Im racist why is my girlfriend Latino , lol now that is hilarious.

miss.a.p1600
09-19-2016, 03:33 PM
^^^^youre absolutely right. Like 100% on the mark.

I mistakenly dated a guy like this (and swiftly got out). Like how can a racist dude be with women of a different race??? You'd think a racist would avoid people not their own race but not the covert racist or guys with racial fetishes.

They're not dating outside their race coming from a place of love, caring, and understanding like Dona mention they're doing it only for power/control. They think they'll have an easier time using women of other races for their own needs (specifically sexual). Also women of their own race have hurt them so only by default do they go to women of other races.

Covert racism is the worst - it's harder to detect because the person is nice to you but deep down they see themselves as superior and they're not trying to understand anyone else's race/culture/ethnicity but their own.

Some f*cked up sh*t and people like this should be avoided at all costs.

November_Scorpio
09-19-2016, 04:00 PM
Actually, you can have racist tendencies and still have a non-white girlfriend. You can be a sexual conquistador who actively seek out Latina, Asian, Native American and black women because you want to be in the position of power and think they are cheap. You made that statement about some white men thinking that Black and Latina dancers are cheaper. So, they openly used them sexually and emotionally to make themselves feel better. Thus, you become like Herman Cortez and become a conquistador. Why do I say this term Sexual conquistador? Because the conquistadors came to Latin America and used women of color to become their sexual playthings. Colonialistic attitudes +Lust+ Power+ Privilege= Sexual conquistador. No, I am not talking about the urban dictionary definition of sexual conquistador. :)


lol now that is too funny. Ok you know what twisting someones words and claiming false things about them is called "SLANDER" and it is not appreciated.

Lets see how great this logic is and the evidence to support this claim: Has a latino girlfriend, gets dances and vips from black dancers, goes to all black clubs, has black and latino friends, his boss is mexican, votes Democrat yet he must be racist--> yeah the evidence speaks for itself. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. The logic is amazing.

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 04:02 PM
Sorry that you had to go through that, Miss.a.p1600 :( Yes, many women experience this but they do not know it at first. You see, some men and women will use people they think are lower than themselves for sexual and emotional relationships because they feel superior. For example, many of my preppy clientele told me they will used plus size women,women of color, trans women, or even gay men for their sexual conquests. I asked them why? They told me because they are not people in their social circle and are easy to use. :( In addition; they openly engaged in hogging and other disgusting things. So, everyone must be careful when it comes to dating and stuff.


^^^^youre absolutely right. Like 100% on the mark.

I mistakenly dated a guy like this (and swiftly got out). Like how can a racist dude be with women of a different race??? You'd think a racist would avoid people not their own race but not the covert racist or guys with racial fetishes.

like you mention it's only for power/control. They think they'll have an easier time using women of other races for their own needs (specifically sexual). Also women of their own race have hurt them so only by default do they go to women of other races.

Covert racism is the worst - it's harder to detect because the person is nice to you but deep down they see themselves as superior.

Some f*cked up sh*t and people like this should be avoided at all costs.

November_Scorpio
09-19-2016, 04:18 PM
Sorry that you had to go through that, Miss.a.p1600 :( Yes, many women experience this but they do not know it at first. You see, some men and women will use people they think are lower than themselves for sexual and emotional relationships because they feel superior. For example, many of my preppy clientele told me they will used plus size women,women of color, trans women, or even gay men for their sexual conquests. I asked them why? They told me because they are not people in their social circle and are easy to use. :( In addition; they openly engaged in hogging and other disgusting things. So, everyone must be careful when it comes to dating and stuff.

Umm again this is SLANDER completely making something up about me not true. No I do not use women for sexual favors. I stated and stated many times repeately that I do not get sexual favors in clubs and I do not see escorts. No I am not using anyone. My girlfriend loves me and I love her I do not use her how you dare you viciously SLANDER me on this forum! The dancers I see love me cause I am so nice to them and I never request sexual favors or anything illegal from them. They are not being used. The club charges a fee for dances and VIPs I pay the money just like any customer, so I am not using anyone. No I do not engage in hogging where are you getting this from -> SLANDER. And no I do not think women in the club are lower then myself and I do not have that view of my girlfriend again you are making up stuff not true about me -> SLANDER. Stop bullying and slandering and making up stuff that is not true about me. Just because you don't like my opinions or what I say does not entitle you to viciously SLANDER and bully someone.

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 04:19 PM
First of all, you can not prove slander if I was not talking about you. I was talking about your statements addressing your extra seeking attitude in the clubs.No one is twisting your words around. I am just saying that is possible for you to have racist tendencies. It is possible for everyone to have racist tendencies. I was just addressing your post about black and latina dancers being viewed at cheaper. This is what you said " I can get pretty good deals in the clubs and thus go to the clubs more frequently too by hunting down girls who have a low supply of customers compared to top girls and have a few things that would deter some guys. She might be a little heavy, or too skinny, or in her 30's, have a scar, be black or Latino(white girls seem to get all the attention it seems). " You stated that you can get a pretty good deal on girls who are little heavy, too skinny, past 30s, have scars, and who are black or Latina. Maybe you should say things more clearly next time. Also, you are offended as usual because you say any damn thing and get called out for it :)



lol now that is too funny. Ok you know what twisting someones words and claiming false things about them is called "SLANDER" and it is not appreciated.

Lets see how great this logic is and the evidence to support this claim: Has a latino girlfriend, gets dances and vips from black dancers, goes to all black clubs, has black and latino friends, his boss is mexican, votes Democrat yet he must be racist--> yeah the evidence speaks for itself. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. The logic is amazing.

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 04:31 PM
Stop being a baby,November_Scorpio. I was talking to Miss.A.p1600 about her experience in my post to her. I was not talking about you, crybaby. My preppy clientele engaged in that type of behavior. Damn, you act like such a child on this forum. But it seems like I hit a nerve again with you and you can not control your emotions. You need to man up and grow a pair. Also, no one is bullying you on this site but you keep saying the dumbest crap on here. Like that stupidity in the kissing thread and this bully accusing crap.Then I call you out on it but you get so worked up. We are just talking:)


Umm again this is SLANDER completely making something up about me not true. No I do not use women for sexual favors. I stated and stated many times repeately that I do not get sexual favors in clubs and I do not see escorts. No I am not using anyone. My girlfriend loves me and I love her I do not use her how you dare you viciously SLANDER me on this forum! The dancers I see love me cause I am so nice to them and I never request sexual favors or anything illegal from them. They are not being used. The club charges a fee for dances and VIPs I pay the money just like any customer, so I am not using anyone. No I do not engage in hogging where are you getting this from -> SLANDER. And no I do not think women in the club are lower then myself and I do not have that view of my girlfriend again you are making up stuff not true about me -> SLANDER. Stop bullying and slandering and making up stuff that is not true about me. Just because you don't like my opinions or what I say does not entitle you to viciously SLANDER and bully someone.

November_Scorpio
09-19-2016, 04:32 PM
First of all, you can not prove slander if I was not talking about you. I was talking about your statements addressing your extra seeking attitude in the clubs. :)

Extra seeking attitude? How many times do I have to say this till I am blue in the face. No I do not get any "Extras" or sexual favors in clubs, I do not do anything illegal in the clubs. So no I do not have an "Extra" seeking attitude.

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 04:49 PM
Again, it is the way you are wording things. Also, my statements still stand despite you saying that you are not into extras. The fact that you openly search for "cheaper" girls to get dances from is a bit odd to say. It just come across as you feel that those dancers are not as great as the top girls. Again, your posts need to be a bit more smoother on here :)


Extra seeking attitude? How many times do I have to say this till I am blue in the face. No I do not get any "Extras" or sexual favors in clubs, I do not do anything illegal in the clubs. So no I do not have an "Extra" seeking attitude.

miss.a.p1600
09-19-2016, 04:51 PM
Scorpio I can't speak for her but I don't believe dona was trying to slander you. You posed the question of how could a racist be in fact racist if they date outside their race. Like for example just because a European man dates an Asian woman doesn't not mean that he's not prejudice/racist. Or just because a Black man dates a European woman does not mean he is not prejudice/racist. Etc. I don't think she was saying you indeed are racist but more along the lines that people who date outside their race ironically can be racist.

Thanks Dona! - I got surprisingly quickly wrapped up in the narcissist game like quicksand but I got out once I realized I was sinking fast. for the most part escaped unscathed with my self esteem still in tact, But that's another thread.

And what's up with people trading sex for food? Church's chicken??? Omg lol!!! I could understand in a third world country maybe but America?

DonaDiabla
09-19-2016, 04:59 PM
Exactly, I was talking about the question he posed and expanded on it :) Thanks girl for getting my posts in this thread :)


Scorpio I can't speak for her but I don't believe dona was trying to slander you. You posed the question of how could a racist be in fact racist if they date outside their race. Like for example just because a European man dates an Asian woman doesn't not mean that he's not racist. Or just because a Black man dates a European woman does not mean he is not racist. Etc. I don't think she was saying you are racist but more along the lines that people who date outside their race ironically can be racist.

Bahuba
09-20-2016, 12:46 AM
It's hard to say, I personally am not a "bargain hunter" so it would really be about the person.

On the above, I saw a thread on Bossip today where someone was claiming a certain presidential candidate was NOT a racist cause he dated Robin Givens (sp and too lazy to look it up). LOL

We had a rabbit like you
09-20-2016, 08:53 AM
Ok dude calm your tits, the way you said it..lumping strippers "in their 30s" oh horrors, w overweight, scarred, low demand and then black an Latino. Then saying their looks don't matter. I'll go w "poorly worded"

absolutelyadorable
09-20-2016, 11:16 AM
Lets see how great this logic is and the evidence to support this claim: Has a latino girlfriend, gets dances and vips from black dancers, goes to all black clubs, has black and latino friends, his boss is mexican, votes Democrat yet he must be racist--> yeah the evidence speaks for itself. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. The logic is amazing.

Okkkkk not for nothing but literally NONE of this would automatically make you, or anyone else, NOT a racist. Just like the textbook white person that yells out "Hey! I'm not racist! I have black friends!" Doesn't mean he can't be racist deep down.


ETA: While we're on the subject of voting Democrat = not racist, my SO and I are not white and one of his work buddies is a typical country white Southern Baptist who (gasp!) votes Republican. Yet, to my knowledge, he's an overall decent guy, and his brother actually did some work on my house at a pretty steep discount. The only thing that makes you not racist is......not being racist.

absolutelyadorable
09-20-2016, 11:22 AM
Also, the fact that you first say that you tend to go for the older, rougher looking, black, or latina strippers because their demand is lower = cheaper prices, then go on about being around a lot of blacks and latinos and having a latina girlfriend is slightly alarming. But I'm sleep.

arielbriel
09-20-2016, 09:50 PM
So if you are not looking for extras, what are you looking for? Cheaper dances? Like I'm really confused.

absolutelyadorable
09-21-2016, 06:58 AM
^^ That's exactly what he's looking for! He counts on the fact that they're more likely to take what they can get as opposed to charging full price. It seems to me that that's the only reason why he goes for them at all, not because they're his preference.

DonaDiabla
09-21-2016, 07:34 AM
Girl, you are right! You know, what was the creepiest part of his statements in this thread? It seems like he was going to certain dancers because he thought they were less than the girls on stage. Frankly, it was like he was treating those women like attractions at a freak show.:( For example, he was talking about his ideal body type yet he do not pick those girls at the club. Not only that he is openly giving those women less than his ideal body type. If he was going to treat these women like novelties, at least pay them handsomely. It is pretty gross to treat them like a novelty than short change them. Plus, he came to this thread and openly bragged about it. :( Creepy.



^^ That's exactly what he's looking for! He counts on the fact that they're more likely to take what they can get as opposed to charging full price. It seems to me that that's the only reason why he goes for them at all, not because they're his preference.

miss.a.p1600
09-21-2016, 08:57 AM
I wish I could pay an escort like tonight. But with so many men offering their penis for free I'd have a hard time paying (in cash that is).

If I were down for some lesbian sex. I would probably pay between $400-500.

Tdonuts
09-21-2016, 09:58 AM
yeah true and a lot of guys have told me they don't. For a guy who can't get off by just a girl grinding on them i can see how maybe that would be of less value to them. Fortunately i tend to be overly sensitive and just a little grinding tends to go a long way for me. If i haven't masturbated for a day it can take as little as 1-2 songs of grinding till i get off and am satisfied. When i go to the club and get a 30 minute or an hour vip i like to have masturbated at least twice already that day before hand, unless i also will be ordering dances from her before hand. I can get off multiple times in vip, but i usually have to rest and talk to her for about 20 minutes in vip and then tell her im feeling stiff again and have her grind me the last 20 minutes till i get happy in the pants again. Sometimes i will buy 1-2 songs before the vip and get off by a girl grinding on me for 1 or 2 songs then i will order a 30 minute or 1 hour vip from her after that. It's not hard for a dancer to get me off 3 times in one night just by grinding. I had one dancer i would order 1-2 songs from her get off and be happy. Talk to her for about 20 minutes and order another couple dances, get off again in the pants. Then order a 30 minute or 1 hour vip and get off a 3rd time in vip simply from her grinding me. Feels just as good as sex and just as satisfying as being with an escort. Dancers are usually fine with a guy who gets off easily by just grinding as long as the guy wears a condom under the pants so nothing leaks through his pants and gets on the dancer.

You can really get a lot more stimulation from lapdances too depending what pants you wear. When i go to clubs i like to wear liquid lap dance pants you can order them at http://www.liquidlapdance.com/products/liquid-lapdance-trade. They really improve the amount of stimulation you can get during a lapdance. If you wear these pants you don't need to wear a condom under the pants since the pants are designed to contain any bodily fluids with a latex barrier built into the pants. I also like to stay away from pants with a lot friction like blue jeans. I get more stimulation from wearing khakis and slacks.

lol....wtf??!!

Tdonuts
09-21-2016, 10:05 AM
to answer the OP...

$520 for 2hr agency rate +tip

miss.a.p1600
09-21-2016, 10:08 AM
^^^^it is a wtf kinda comment but it's an honest comment. I'm sure he's not the only guy to have said or done this. I posted a recent thread how a dude told me he was wearing a condom under his pant. I had the same reaction like dude wtf?!?!? Had he not said anything I would have had no clue. I personally would rather know (so I can decide whether or not to continue - which most like I will not because I don't want dudes to orgasm when I dance for them) than to be in a state of ignorant "bliss".

Tdonuts
09-21-2016, 12:00 PM
^^ true. ...at the very least it was TMI for most guys. I don't need to hear you relate your jerk-off rituals. I have no desire to be manipulated to completion while fully clothed, there has to be a fair amount of skin on skin contact. Clubs for me are for visual and some physical stimulation. If I'm going to the finish line, I want to be FULLY engaged.

re: getting suited up, when does that happen? a quick trip to the mens room, a couple of tugs, on with the coat, run out and grab a girl and head to the lap dance area?...or does this happen in the vip room? ...or while he's sitting at a bar stool with a hand in his pants? I think I would have a hard time (no pun intended) sitting in a club for 10, 20, 60min with a hard on, all suited up and ready to go... just waiting for the right girl to come along.

SubSpace666
09-28-2016, 03:31 AM
Frankly, I knew that 100 dollars would be an rate of a lot lizard or boardwalk girl. Lot lizards often charge 100 and girls off the boardwalks like in San Cruz charge 100 dollars but they are discreet.Actually, most crackhead prostitutes charge below 100 in a lot of areas because crack is cheap. So most crackhead prostitutes are between 10 to 75 dollars per hour because they need to fix.Crack is often cheap and they charge very low rates. Sometimes, they do groups for 500 but that if they want crack to last for more than a week. Meanwhile, prostitutes on Meth and/or peyote often charge lower like 5 to 25 dollars per blowjob without a condom. They are super high volume and often have like tons of STDs. Then there are people who charge 1 dollar per min but they often conduct their business outside of the dumpster and are below crackhead standards. I mean girls and guys with no teeth and holes in their skin.

ummmm peyote?? how is that even close to meth or crack?? You need to read up on your drug facts....

SubSpace666
09-28-2016, 03:34 AM
Here's the thing about this question - it can make for an interesting discussion, but the bottom line, charge what you are comfortable charging and don't let anyone try to convince you that you "can't" get away with it.

There will always be $100 girls, because there will always be customers who are only willing to pay that much. You know what? That's fine. Let those girls have those customers. But where those particular men seem to fall into a trap is that they seem to assume that everyone in their area is only willing to pay those prices and will talk about how the market simply won't allow girls to charge higher than that - thus instilling this fear in every woman who reads things like this that they better not deviate from the norm in their area, because they just won't get any clients who are willing to pay more. And the reason you may not see any girls in a particular area over that "normal rate" is just because they've read things like that/listened to those customers, and believe that so they don't even try -- not because someone actually couldn't come along and charge more with success.

There are plenty of guys in my area who probably insist that there's no way I'm making money at my rates because why would anyone pay 350/hr when they can call the local service for 90/hr or the "highest" in the area besides me is 250/hr? But they would be incorrect.

And I don't need to convince those guys that by seeing lower priced women, they are "wrong" or get in a tizzy about the girls who are "ruining" my market with their bargain prices. Who cares? It's not actually a competition, no matter how many people fearfully insist that it is. These guys can complain about my prices and claim they would never see me all they want. Fine... I'm sure those other girls are happy to get that money instead. And just because I didn't get their money, doesn't mean I'm sitting around lacking, boo-hooing over the fact that they went somewhere cheaper because I wouldn't budge for them. I'm quite happy with my network of regulars who are completely willing to pay what I want and clearly don't feel gypped. Everybody gets what they want.

But there's no sense in arguing about it: women trying to convince men who aren't going to part with more money that they'll never find what they want (they clearly have, otherwise they would've found incentive to up their spending limits or gotten out of the game all together), OR men trying to convince women that certain markets just "won't" allow them to charge more - it may be so in their reality, because they've specifically structured their spending habits around these certain prices, but that doesn't make it true for every customer or every escort, so don't let anyone try to scare you into thinking otherwise.

this. I agree

SubSpace666
09-28-2016, 03:38 AM
Okkkkk not for nothing but literally NONE of this would automatically make you, or anyone else, NOT a racist. Just like the textbook white person that yells out "Hey! I'm not racist! I have black friends!" Doesn't mean he can't be racist deep down.


ETA: While we're on the subject of voting Democrat = not racist, my SO and I are not white and one of his work buddies is a typical country white Southern Baptist who (gasp!) votes Republican. Yet, to my knowledge, he's an overall decent guy, and his brother actually did some work on my house at a pretty steep discount. The only thing that makes you not racist is......not being racist.

lol, I have said those exact words before when I was accused of being racist (by an extremist chauvinistic male i turned down and friend zoned who was hurt), and I am most definitely not racist. I really don't know any racists that actually have black friends. Not to hijack this thread, but that seems odd to me. Carry on...

SubSpace666
09-28-2016, 03:56 AM
Extra seeking attitude? How many times do I have to say this till I am blue in the face. No I do not get any "Extras" or sexual favors in clubs, I do not do anything illegal in the clubs. So no I do not have an "Extra" seeking attitude.

sorry dude, but cumming in your pants is an "extra" bc at the clubs I work at, and legally, that is frowned upon, and bc you are cumming and there is grinding involved (I know bc I used to have customers like this for years) i'm sorry to say, but that IS MOST DEFINETLY a form of prostitution. I'm not proud of doing it, but I didn't mind it since the guys were regulars. But yes, technically , it falls under "extras" bc you have to seem out certain girls to get that type of "dance" (which is all it is supposed to be, a dance). You make some good points, but you do come off a bit self-rightous. no offense

Bahuba
09-28-2016, 06:15 AM
^^^what you don't know is those $100 guys then go on to constantly post on the review boards calling anyone who pays more than they pay a "white knight" and and a "beta" and any other shit they can think of, trying to artificially depress the market.

People that are cheap and broke generally don't get to influence markets, but they really try. They generally have extreme rage issues, probably from being cheap and broke.

DonaDiabla
09-28-2016, 11:07 AM
Why are you talking about drug facts? I was talking about how much crack whores and other druggies were charging only in my post here. I was talking about about how druggie prostitutes sell themselves not drug facts. Maybe you need to talk to how much a crack whore charge compare to a girl on peyote or meth? Girls on peyote and crack charge about the same amount when I talked to them. Meth Heads are a bit cheaper than that. Was I talking about them being the same? No! Maybe you should read the whole comment before comment on drug facts. I know about the drug and prostitution game, honey. Always remember that my family owned brothels and I have seen prostitution at all levels and I was know about the drug game. Also, I saw many different types of streetwalkers when I was homeless.Was I talking about peyote being the same as crack? Nope! I was talking about how druggie prostitutes sell their "time". Just like how I did not mention prostitutes on coke. Because they are apart of different market and certainly are not founded streetwalkin' really. You see; crackheads, meth heads, and other druggies. I saw about a few streetwalkers on Mescaline(Peyote).They were usually from Central America or the deepest parts of the Caribbean . Maybe you should educate yourself on streetwalkers and drugs before lecturing me on something? Because I am pretty sure you never talked to drugged out streetwalkers or street walkers on Mescaline. But I have :) Also, I was talking about the town that I am from.



ummmm peyote?? how is that even close to meth or crack?? You need to read up on your drug facts....

DorkiestDancer
10-11-2016, 06:32 PM
I did not know that there were chronic peyote users! TMYK.

DorkiestDancer
10-11-2016, 06:58 PM
I wish I could pay an escort like tonight. But with so many men offering their penis for free I'd have a hard time paying (in cash that is).

If I were down for some lesbian sex. I would probably pay between $400-500.


I'm a woman, too, but I too would pay for it if I had the money to blow. I have a sex life, but male escorts seem to take better care of themselves than do the average male. Plus, I like to peg. There is also that fake boyfriend experience I'd probably enjoy, getting to talk with someone about anything and not having to worry if you're being selfish. I think I'd pay more for a female, though. Not entirely sure why, but probably because hot men are easier to come by for free. Male: $100-400, Female: $275-650. Price a function of not only the quality, but my means at the time.

absolutelyadorable
10-12-2016, 08:50 AM
lol, I have said those exact words before when I was accused of being racist (by an extremist chauvinistic male i turned down and friend zoned who was hurt), and I am most definitely not racist. I really don't know any racists that actually have black friends. Not to hijack this thread, but that seems odd to me. Carry on...

Lol that's the thing. The black people they refer to when they make that kind of statement aren't really their friends, not in the true sense of the word. It's a method of deflection.

gw
10-21-2016, 10:09 PM
Had he not said anything I would have had no clue. I personally would rather know (so I can decide whether or not to continue - which most like I will not because I don't want dudes to orgasm when I dance for them) than to be in a state of ignorant "bliss".

Many years ago (more than 15), I used to (ahem) got this place that apparently specialized in these types of extras. I found out accidentally, but every time I went back I was, uh, prepared.

Once, when I'd finished, the girl actually turned around and said, "You're wearing a rubber, right?"

As for how much I'd pay, most I've ever paid was $400. One hour. I think plus tip.

But the vast majority of overtly "paying for it" would be at many of the local rub-n-tug places (where I used to live in SoCal). I think total was $150 or so with tip.

Personally, I prefer the massage HJ type places, rather than a high priced lady.

Even if I was filthy rich and wanted a $5K plus a night lady I'd still ask for only a massage and a HJ.

miss.a.p1600
10-22-2016, 09:29 AM
Interesting.

After watch those massage room porn films, I think I'd rather pay a male masseuse for a manual happy ending than actually have penetrative sex with a male escort (unless there was a guarantee he had orgasmic peen or tongue).

November_Scorpio
10-31-2016, 04:46 PM
Many years ago (more than 15), I used to (ahem) got this place that apparently specialized in these types of extras. I found out accidentally, but every time I went back I was, uh, prepared.

Once, when I'd finished, the girl actually turned around and said, "You're wearing a rubber, right?"

As for how much I'd pay, most I've ever paid was $400. One hour. I think plus tip.

But the vast majority of overtly "paying for it" would be at many of the local rub-n-tug places (where I used to live in SoCal). I think total was $150 or so with tip.

Personally, I prefer the massage HJ type places, rather than a high priced lady.

Even if I was filthy rich and wanted a $5K plus a night lady I'd still ask for only a massage and a HJ.

Interesting I have found most extra girls in clubs work close to way girls at massage parlors work. There are plenty of strippers willing to engage in a fairly low risk activity like an HJ or slipping their hand down the guys pants and doing a little rubbing while she dances on him, but a lot less girls in the clubs willing to go all the way. There are actually a lot of escorts who only do HJ's. Me personally I think a stripper who grinds a guy during a dance gives a much pleasurable experience than an HJ.

Raziel
11-03-2016, 07:53 PM
Oh ok. I must have inadvertently asked one of those questions.

I was just wondering cause a couple dudes I talked to here claim they only spend like $80-$200 which doesn't seem like a lot. I thought escorts would charge at least $400/hour. Guess each person has their own threshold of what they can afford to accept/spend.

I'll see if I can get into the site. I think I have to create a log in.

Shitty Escort services in middle market cities tend to charge around 200$/hr. I know this though my cousin, as when i (occasionally) do it it tends to be through an individual's website, where i can see what i'm getting, rather than craigslist or some ad. These same cheap escort services don't really tell you who they are sending. If they're making that little money, it seems to be an invitation to get robbed/murdered. Once upon a time these places advertised in the phone book! They may still, i don't know.

Gia2608
11-03-2016, 09:28 PM
Awwww.... phone books. How nostalgic.

Luckyguy09
11-25-2016, 05:43 PM
I can't speak for JDD

But what I do know about people having lowest prices is that they usually have lower quality and they have to have more buyers to make the same amount as the ladies who charge more. More buyers/Customers/Clients = Higher risk for negative affects of the industry (burnout, contagious diseases, busts, etc). The ladies who are addicted to substances will be more likely to lower their rates/standards to get their drug of choice cause their addiction overrides their rational thinking. Now I'm sure there are the younger escorts who charge less because 1) they most likely only have themselves to support and fewer expenses 2) they're naive about the game and don't know their worth

I think he's implying lower priced escorts in general are riskier. Would you pay rock bottom prices for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a McDonalds factory or would you pay more for a woman who treats her p*ssy like a 5 star restaurant?

Also, you do know some clubs hiring practices are kinda sketchy and I doubt they ask - hey bubbles did you work the track off 4th street and main??? And you do know that while they might not do crack in the club, doesn't mean they don't do it in their off time. There are a percentage of dancers who are nurturing drug and alcohol addiction and some of them can hide it well. For all you know that OTC dancer could very well have been a streetwalker with a current crack addiction. Just saying.

Im sure some of the guys here have found ways to get quality escorts for lowest prices, but In many instances, You get what you pay for.


When I say lower quality I mean they might be less educated, clothing/hair/nails less on point, body may be less up to par (as ladies with more money can afford things like plastic surgery, massages, dental treatment, quality hair extensions), might not take care of their p*ssy as well, etc....

But then again Im not a dude so Im sure an escort with chipped nails, visible weave tracks, dropout, yellow teeth, cellulite, cheap lingerie, charging $100/ hr would be an attractive option to some men with raging sex drives and $100 in their wallet.

You're right technically the only 100% safe sex is celibacy or masturbation. But there is a reason why men are freaking out when they find out their otc favs are posting on back page no?

And I wasn't saying a high priced escort wouldn't have a drug addiction, I was saying that drug addictions affect that decision making center in the brain. A person feigning for coke or crack is going to be like damn I need to re-up so I might as well take this $100 right now vs. a sober escort who is like hmm this dude offered me $100 now but I can wait till I get that $700 whale tomorrow

For me, a man paying for time, etc ..... quality for me would be (hygiene, respect, preferably no drug addicts cause coke and alcohol make dicks go limp, discretion, etc) I would want more just because the fear of being busted and needing to make sure I have money for top notch legal defense would be a factor in pricing. Also in general lower prices would attract lower class men.

Im not saying your ladies aren't quality, just talking in general terms, as perhaps you have found exceptions.


I'm all for a woman making as much money as she can, and with all due respect to women, all pussy feels the same so I'm not going to pay more for the experience if I don't have to (and I'm not cheap!).

In other words, a woman who charges $1000 per hour vs a woman who charges $150 per hour, on my end, the experience is the same.

Escorts to me are like cars, where I'm trying to get from point A to point B. Sure the Maserati is nicer but I'm just fine with the lower cost Honda to get me around and the reality is that the Honda is really all that is necessary and more practical.

To back up the other poster my best experiences have been with college age women who charge between 80 and 150 range for 15/hh who work out of low budget motels.

Luckyguy09
11-25-2016, 05:53 PM
Frankly, I knew that 100 dollars would be an rate of a lot lizard or boardwalk girl. Lot lizards often charge 100 and girls off the boardwalks like in San Cruz charge 100 dollars but they are discreet.Actually, most crackhead prostitutes charge below 100 in a lot of areas because crack is cheap. So most crackhead prostitutes are between 10 to 75 dollars per hour because they need to fix.Crack is often cheap and they charge very low rates. Sometimes, they do groups for 500 but that if they want crack to last for more than a week. Meanwhile, prostitutes on Meth and/or peyote often charge lower like 5 to 25 dollars per blowjob without a condom. They are super high volume and often have like tons of STDs. Then there are people who charge 1 dollar per min but they often conduct their business outside of the dumpster and are below crackhead standards. I mean girls and guys with no teeth and holes in their skin.

I think it sad that people look down on streetwalkers or budget sex workers. I read a really good article by a street walking veteran who made a lot of good points about prostituties and the tier structure where everyone looks down on the streetwalker.

At the end of the day there is a market for everyone and there is no need to judge others over their choice of market they chose to work or spend money in..

Papa Dandy
11-25-2016, 05:55 PM
I'm all for a woman making as much money as she can, and with all due respect to women, all pussy feels the same so I'm not going to pay more for the experience if I don't have to (and I'm not cheap!).

In other words, a woman who charges $1000 per hour vs a woman who charges $150 per hour, on my end, the experience is the same.

Escorts to me are like cars, where I'm trying to get from point A to point B. Sure the Maserati is nicer but I'm just fine with the lower cost Honda to get me around and the reality is that the Honda is really all that is necessary and more practical.

To back up the other poster my best experiences have been with college age women who charge between 80 and 150 range for 15/hh who work out of low budget motels.

I am the exact opposite. I only really need or want sex once every 3 months though. I have no issue paying $1000 an hour for a hot college student who is willing to do what I want. (Light Femdom Facesitting etc)

Sex for me is like an experience like a vacation. I would rather eat a local freshman college cheerleaders ass and bang her at my place and pay a grand an hour once every few months compared to picking up average women at bars or slumming it every weekend like alot of better looking guys I know. My issue however is the quality sucks in most cities outside of NYC and in Pittsburgh you rarely get the young tight college students. Its usually women in their mid thirties in fancy negligees preaching about a VIP experience or GFE. That shit isnt worth 200 an hour to me let alone 400+. I like the whole Hustler Barely Legal vibe going on.

That said the best quality working escort I ever banged was a 20 year old working for a local agency probably giving them a large cut for 250 an hour. I quickly took advantage of that and got her for 1000 a night behind their back after our first couple sessions.

DonaDiabla
11-25-2016, 08:49 PM
Personally, I do not understand why you pick my post to illustrate your point. My post was just describing the different prostitutes that I have seen. During my homeless year, I saw many streetwalkers and many of them was on drugs. In fact, I talked to them and they told me some parts of about their lives.No one was shaming them in this thread. Seriously, no need to turn my informative post into some sort of bleeding heart piece for yourself.


I think it sad that people look down on streetwalkers or budget sex workers. I read a really good article by a street walking veteran who made a lot of good points about prostituties and the tier structure where everyone looks down on the streetwalker.

At the end of the day there is a market for everyone and there is no need to judge others over their choice of market they chose to work or spend money in..

azballer
11-26-2016, 02:42 PM
Going rate here is $200-$300 / hour, $500 anything goes 2 hours. But I can get just about anything goes with my 2 ATF's tag teaming for under $100 during a slow time.

BambiCutie
11-26-2016, 03:02 PM
I know there are girls who would balk at $100 for an hour of their time but when it's easy, regular, no-hassle income, that translates into thousands, over time.

$80/$100 an hour?? I make more doing 1 hour of work without much effort, why would anyone settle for that?
Some people who have OCD are not entirely clean, even if you are one to scrub for hours under hot water..doesn't mean anything.

Luckyguy09
11-26-2016, 08:06 PM
Personally, I do not understand why you pick my post to illustrate your point. My post was just describing the different prostitutes that I have seen. During my homeless year, I saw many streetwalkers and many of them was on drugs. In fact, I talked to them and they told me some parts of about their lives.No one was shaming them in this thread. Seriously, no need to turn my informative post into some sort of bleeding heart piece for yourself.


Babes, it's nothing personal or serious. This is a public forum and I'm in the customer conversation area.