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DonaDiabla
09-11-2016, 07:39 PM
Guy, it is just how you come across to me in this thread.Plus, I never said that you said that. I am just saying how you come across in thread. :) You was acting like certain things were okay. Now, you came to your senses :) Also, I never said that you kiss customers and get extras. I am just warning the other girls about guys who think that certain stds like herpes are not a big deal. Which you said a number of times in thread.LOL!
I just don't like it when people claim things and make assumptions about me that not true based on "assumptions". I do not go around french kissing customers or getting extras. Where did I say this? And I very much do mind a diseased mouth and penis? That is just gross why did you say that? Where did I say this? that is what is unfair. I never said this. Don't mind covering a girl in spit what that is sick where did I say this? yes that is gross I never said that either. I just am upset a lot assumptions are being made that are totally false. I got to clubs. I don't get extras, I don't kiss dancers, I always ask dancer before dance what are her rules on touching. Most dancers at clubs call me a gentlemen for asking. If she says she wants me to sit on hands during dance I do it and I never touch dancers in areas even if offered where STD's can be caught, that is just sick. There are clubs I was grossed out by the dancers and never visited again.
I just don't understand how all these "assumptions" came out about me that are totally false just because I just stated what my doctor told me about Herpes 1. That is what I found hurtful and very upsetting. Yes maybe my doctor was wrong.
November_Scorpio
09-11-2016, 07:51 PM
Guy, it is just how you come across to me in this thread.Plus, I never said that you said that. I am just saying how you come across in thread. :) You was acting like certain things were okay. Now, you came to your senses :) Also, I never said that you kiss customers and get extras. I am just warning the other girls about guys who think that certain stds like herpes are not a big deal. Which you said a number of times in thread.LOL!
I do think STD's are a big deal. Herpes 1 I didn't see as a big deal and Herpes 2 didn't see as that problematic since that is what my doctor said, but maybe it is more of a concern then what thought and maybe my doctor was misinformed. All other STD's I do see very much as a big deal. Maybe I should be a little more concerned about Herpes 1 then what my doctor said, he could be wrong.
DonaDiabla
09-11-2016, 08:18 PM
I am saying that you need a second opinion from a different doctor. All stds should a concern to everyone because you do not know who is clean and who is not. Testing is very important for everyone :)
I do think STD's are a big deal. Herpes 1 I didn't see as a big deal and Herpes 2 didn't see as that problematic since that is what my doctor said, but maybe it is more of a concern then what thought and maybe my doctor was misinformed. All other STD's I do see very much as a big deal. Maybe I should be a little more concerned about Herpes 1 then what my doctor said, he could be wrong.
rickdugan
09-12-2016, 06:15 AM
Sheesh, if i keep reading this thread I may start sporting full body condoms when I roll into the club. ;D
All joking aside, while I actually agree with a lot of what the guys here have been saying, I would never bother debating this stuff on a forum like this. Each person has his/her own comfort level and that is that. Nothing that anyone says here is going to change that.
IME, kissing is not that prevalent, but it does happen. When it has happened to me, it has been with known favorites and I cannot deny that it was hot. But I can count on one hand the number of strippers I have done that with and I doubt that I would do that with a new acquaintance. After all, if a girl would stick her tongue down my throat after knowing me for 5 minutes, she probably stuck that same tongue down several other throats shortly before. For any number of reasons (both sanitary and otherwise), I have no interest in kissing 5 other guys by proxy. ;)
miss.a.p1600
09-12-2016, 06:25 AM
Not debating comfort levels. Debating a dude who says he is trying to correct misinformation but even HE ain't got all the information.
Anyhow he seemed like he was reviewing his information so....
It is what it is.
Kiss or not kiss. Be aware of the risks then Do what you want to do and carry on.
rickdugan
09-12-2016, 06:55 AM
On the contrary, you are debating comfort levels, because emotions influence which positions you are willing to believe. He is right about the the fact that a solid majority of the population has Herpes 1. The debatable parts are how easily it is transmitted orally and the potential effects. There are a lot of opinions on both sides of each issue.
I for one cannot live such an anti-septic existence that I am too afraid to even kiss another person (unless of course I see cold sores or other evidence of problems), which makes me less risk averse, particularly since I have not seen widespread evidence in my 46 years on this earth to make me believe that kissing is all that high risk. But someone who is more risk averse is more likely to buy into a few Internet pictures and a study or two which says that even type 1 is horribly risky. See what I mean? :)
DonaDiabla
09-12-2016, 07:02 AM
Dude, no one was debating comfort levels. My first statements in this thread was about how it was stupid for threads like this one to be created by white knights, sexist trolls, and captain-save-a-hoes. Personally, I find it strange for threads like this one to pop up because of customers' sexual and romantic hangups. In addition, I knew that some customers would have problems with me speaking out on this issue because a lot of newbie customer contributors have captain-save-a-hoe tendencies. I mean look at the past four months of crappy threads about "I fell in love with with an escort." or "Does this stripper like me?". Or my favorite customer thread of all time" Why are strippers ignoring me if I am handsome and tall?" Sure, I ignored some of them but I got sick of looking at the same crap. Many of these threads were created by trolls who want to normalized sex work because of their own hang ups. Why I care? I care because it affects girls like me. Guys do not stop with strippers and escorts. It reaches into the sugar bowl, pso phone line, camming and even texting. White knighting sucks and everyone knows it. Frankly, I have been thanking my lucky stars that a lot of my customers do not have any of tendencies and I have been so grateful to them :)
My last statements was addressing the fact that herpes is a big deal and being nonchalant about it can cause problems. Having customers that are so carefree about stds can be problematic for any sex worker. So many diseases such as syphilis and gonorrhoea are making huge comebacks. I mean these are the same diseases that sex workers in medieval times dealt with. I said numerous of times that sex workers (strippers/escorts/ etc) can do kissing at their own risk and should charge a lot for it. Those were my two major arguments in this thread and at least one guy decided to look more closely at his stand on herpes. I feel it was a good debate and I debate men all of the time on many issues :)
Sheesh, if i keep reading this thread I may start sporting full body condoms when I roll into the club. ;D
All joking aside, while I actually agree with a lot of what the guys here have been saying, I would never bother debating this stuff on a forum like this. Each person has his/her own comfort level and that is that. Nothing that anyone says here is going to change that.
IME, kissing is not that prevalent, but it does happen. When it has happened to me, it has been with known favorites and I cannot deny that it was hot. But I can count on one hand the number of strippers I have done that with and I doubt that I would do that with a new acquaintance. After all, if a girl would stick her tongue down my throat after knowing me for 5 minutes, she probably stuck that same tongue down several other throats shortly before. For any number of reasons (both sanitary and otherwise), I have no interest in kissing 5 other guys by proxy. ;)
rickdugan
09-12-2016, 07:28 AM
My last statements was addressing the fact that herpes is a big deal and being nonchalant about it can cause problems.
So do you think that many are so nonchalant about it because you are just that much smarter and/or better informed than they are? Or could it possibly be that they simply disagree with you, based upon what they see and have read, about the inherent risks? Should we now start treating cold sores as a life threatening illness and everyone who ever has one as forever virulent? :)
As for white knights, sexist trolls, and captain-save-a-hoes posting on this board, I wouldn't get too worked up over a few troll posts in the CC section. The moderating in that section has loosened up a lot since Yoda's passing, so we are getting more guys who are posting these things just to get a reaction.
DonaDiabla
09-12-2016, 07:53 AM
Oh honey, it is not because they mere disagree with me. They disagree with my attitude about kissing in strip club. They disagree with my feelings towards oral herpes. Sorry, if I offend because I think that herpes in all forms is bad. Maybe getting cold sores and pus pockets in the mouth is not a big deal for some people? But it is a big deal to me. Sorry, I do not think that stds are jokes in any form.Sorry, if I am cautious about kissing clients. Plus, you are not a sex worker...so it is easy for you to say that I should not get worked up. Maybe you should work as a sex worker and see how it is? Maybe you should have guys talk about love and then stopping your money? Maybe you should listen to the fake love and the endless white knight possibilities all over the sex industry? Then you should join a sex worker forum and see these same things in the customer section. Then you can report back to me about how you feel. Because I have been a customer and I know what that is side is like. But you need to come over and become a sex worker. Hell, you are so informed, right?:)
So do you think that many are so nonchalant about it because you are just that much smarter and/or better informed than they are? Or could it possibly be that they simply disagree with you, based upon what they see and have read, about the inherent risks? Should we now start treating cold sores as a life threatening illness and everyone who ever has one as forever virulent? :)
As for white knights, sexist trolls, and captain-save-a-hoes posting on this board, I wouldn't get too worked up over a few troll posts in the CC section. The moderating in that section has loosened up a lot since Yoda's passing, so we are getting more guys who are posting these things just to get a reaction.
miss.a.p1600
09-12-2016, 08:13 AM
On the contrary, you are debating comfort levels, because emotions influence which positions you are willing to believe. He is right about the the fact that a solid majority of the population has Herpes 1. The debatable parts are how easily it is transmitted orally and the potential effects. There are a lot of opinions on both sides of each issue.
I for one cannot live such an anti-septic existence that I am too afraid to even kiss another person (unless of course I see cold sores or other evidence of problems), which makes me less risk averse, particularly since I have not seen widespread evidence in my 46 years on this earth to make me believe that kissing is all that high risk. But someone who is more risk averse is more likely to buy into a few Internet pictures and a study or two which says that even type 1 is horribly risky. See what I mean? :)
Please tell me where I debated comfort levels???
I was careful in my wording to explain MY comfort levels.
I provided factual info with credible source on transmission so people could know the risks
AND
I remained objective as I understand there are people with herpes simplex, etc who may be reading as I said it's not the end of the world if you have it or contract it. What I said and my point was why spread it/contract it unnecessarily.
DonaDiabla
09-12-2016, 08:18 AM
Yeah, I thought your argument was quite wonderful. Plus, we was not talking about people already with the virus but talking about being cautious. Girl, I do not know what is happening in this thread :)
Please tell me where I debated comfort levels???
I was careful in my wording to explain MY comfort levels.
I provided factual info with credible source on transmission so people could know the risks
AND
I remained objective as I understand there are people with herpes simplex, etc who may be reading as I said it's not the end of the world if you have it or contract it. What I said and my point was why spread it/contract it unnecessarily.
miss.a.p1600
09-12-2016, 08:21 AM
Should we now start treating cold sores as a life threatening illness and everyone who ever has one as forever virulent? :).
No we shouldn't treat people with cold sores any different than anyone else but we shouldn't take a I don't give af attitude when 10+ men per night ask to kiss on the mouth.
rickdugan
09-12-2016, 08:24 AM
Oh honey, it is not because they mere disagree with me. They disagree with my attitude about kissing in strip club. They disagree with my feelings towards oral herpes. Sorry, if I offend because I think that herpes in all forms is bad. Maybe getting cold sores and pus pockets in the mouth is not a big deal for some people? But it is a big deal to me. Sorry, I do not think that stds are jokes in any form.Plus, you are not a sex worker...so it is easy for you to say that I should not get worked up. Maybe you should work as a sex worker and see how it is? Maybe you should have guys talk about love and then stopping your money? Maybe you should listen to the fake love and the endless white knight possibilities all over the sex industry? Then you should join a sex worker forum and see these same things in the customer section. Then you can report back to me about how you feel. Because I have been a customer and I know what that is side is like. But you need to come over and become a sex worker. Hell, you are so informed, right?:)
Which brings us back full circle to comfort level being part of the equation, which is perfectly fine IMHO. If you do not want to risk so much as ever having a cold sore then I agree 100% that it is your prerogative. Any guy who tries to talk you into doing something that you are not comfortable with is an asshole. All I'm saying is that there are two sides to the argument with respect to the risk of kissing. I am not remotely saying that you should be persuaded to do anything that you do not want to.
As far as the troll posts, I deal with these same guys on a customer site and can tell you that this is exactly what they want. They spend enough time in clubs and reading these boards to know the hot button issues for some dancers, so they come on here knowing which buttons to push. Sadly, they have nothing better to do than to try to poke sensitive spots for their own amusement, hoping to get a reaction and then to further goad anyone who responds. I have learned not to feed trolls on the customer site, but it took me a few years before I finally stopped, lol.
Dominic.2
09-12-2016, 06:13 PM
I had never heard of helicobacter pylori. It sounds like there are treatment options, which is good. Sorry if I am fanning the flames of this thread.
http://www.cdc.gov/ulcer/files/hpfacts.pdf
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=45228
Omegaphallic
09-18-2016, 08:05 AM
This will be a critical look into these types of customer base threads:
We keep getting these threads because all of these "customers" are captain-save-a hoes/white knights and they are looking for encouragement. Threads like this one are showing up all over the sex worker forums and some sex workers openly encourage this behavior. Some sex workers might think that some of these customers are romantics or decent people. However, tons of these type of threads offer a horrifying look into the psyche of white knights/captain-save-a-hoes. For example, does anyone think that it is normal for customers to bust their spit all over strippers' without payment? Nope but this thread exist to see what will become normal in the stripclubs. You see, it starts with threads like "Do you think this stripper likes me" and they we fall down the rabbit hole to threads like this. Now it is "Kissing the customers" and "falling in love with escorts" but soon it will be " I want to marry an escort that I slept with once." or "I want to get a stripper pregnant after seeing her in the club." These people care nothing for the sex workers and think that we should be their playthings off the clock as well. They want to waste our time, beauty, and bodies in order to make themselves feel better.They only want to normalized sex work to make themselves feel better about seeing a sex worker.
WTF?
I don't think wanting get a stripper pregnate will ever become a thing.
As for kissing, some will some won't and some will just give you a peck. A chicks boundaries are individualistic and can change over time, like she because becomes more comfortible with you or she catches herpes, ect...
DonaDiabla
09-18-2016, 04:02 PM
Excuse me, but did you read everything that I saying on that post? Since you always seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills,let me break it down for you. My first post in this thread was about my personal disgust with stupid ass customers coming on sex worker support sites and talking about their "love" for escorts, strippers, etc....All of these types of threads are about white knights and captain-save-a-hoes looking to score with sex workers for free. Now, you are not a sex worker but let me break it down even further for you. So, customers trying to say they love you and want to press boundaries in order to get out of paying you. I bet you would not like getting kisses instead of getting paid. By the way, if you are going to come for me in an argument....then make sure that your argument is on fleet. Right now, you sound like a child trying to debate a grown woman. Come back when you grow some major balls, sweetheart. It seems like your men's right group are not teaching you a lot about being a man. Kisses. :)
WTF?
I don't think wanting get a stripper pregnate will ever become a thing.
As for kissing, some will some won't and some will just give you a peck. A chicks boundaries are individualistic and can change over time, like she because becomes more comfortible with you or she catches herpes, ect...
Omegaphallic
09-19-2016, 05:53 PM
So do you think that many are so nonchalant about it because you are just that much smarter and/or better informed than they are? Or could it possibly be that they simply disagree with you, based upon what they see and have read, about the inherent risks? Should we now start treating cold sores as a life threatening illness and everyone who ever has one as forever virulent? :)
As for white knights, sexist trolls, and captain-save-a-hoes posting on this board, I wouldn't get too worked up over a few troll posts in the CC section. The moderating in that section has loosened up a lot since Yoda's passing, so we are getting more guys who are posting these things just to get a reaction.
Yoda's dead??? WTF, when did that happen?
I didn't agree with him on certain issues, but wow that sucks, RIP Yoda, I hope you enjoy the big titty bar in the sky.