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DonaDiabla
09-12-2016, 08:19 AM
You must use your real photos with dreamlover :)



I am considering signing up for dreamlover but its not one of those sites where i have to use my real photos, right?

TheBrownFox
09-12-2016, 08:39 AM
Fuck. It appears that I signed up on NiteFlirt as a member (instead of a flirt), because I see a 'Find a flirt' button. Now if I try to sign up as a flirt, it will just tell me "There is already an account registered under that e-mail," right? I'm gonna try closing my account now, and opening one as a flirt this time. I'm also sending them a message to explain the situation.

Amy Lee
09-12-2016, 11:24 AM
I am considering signing up for dreamlover but its not one of those sites where i have to use my real photos, right?

Yeah I tried to sign up with purchases content and it was rejected. Was gonna try to contact customer support later...lol

Amy Lee
09-12-2016, 11:29 AM
Approved by talk to me and someone just purchased my content package for one of my profiles... getting excited. Let's see how this goes in addition to NF and DL... redy for money!!!

Rina
09-12-2016, 11:40 AM
Fuck. It appears that I signed up on NiteFlirt as a member (instead of a flirt), because I see a 'Find a flirt' button. Now if I try to sign up as a flirt, it will just tell me "There is already an account registered under that e-mail," right? I'm gonna try closing my account now, and opening one as a flirt this time. I'm also sending them a message to explain the situation.

You might not need to close your account. I did this with a new character not to long ago, and I just clicked the become a flirt link at the bottom of page while I was logged in and it let me go through the rest of the steps to make a flirt account.

xCamLovex
09-12-2016, 12:31 PM
Fuck. It appears that I signed up on NiteFlirt as a member (instead of a flirt), because I see a 'Find a flirt' button. Now if I try to sign up as a flirt, it will just tell me "There is already an account registered under that e-mail," right? I'm gonna try closing my account now, and opening one as a flirt this time. I'm also sending them a message to explain the situation.


I kid you not, I've done this TWICE. LOL. Just create a help ticket and customer service will help you. They have a very competent team and it's sooo refreshing.

sarabimaraj
09-12-2016, 02:20 PM
I always giggle internally when bbs assume PSO is dead, etc. I took off today just to work PSO only and always make more in a shorter time period than cam. We sit on cam for hours, exposing ourselves to what we think are a great pool of paying customers and sometimes making your goal feels like churning butter. Then you get an easy call and a tip that blows your whole cam goal out of the water, getting you to goal a lot faster.

To me, camming can be super overrated and with so many girls and the freedom for the clients to bounce around- with phone the guy HAS to pay to even talk to you for 1 second and because people assume no one does phone anymore, you get more cash in a shorter amount of time watching netflix and doing your nails, lol. No achy back, no sore areas, and the silence is golden too in between calls. It's less saturated and if you're a good pso with experience, they keep coming back.

This is so true! I honestly rarely cam. I haven't gotten on cam in weeks because of phone sex. I much rather work my phone sex sites than get on cam. Cam can be so exhausting. People do fail to realize you can make just as much or more with phone sex if you work it right.

Amy Lee
09-12-2016, 03:03 PM
This is so true! I honestly rarely cam. I haven't gotten on cam in weeks because of phone sex. I much rather work my phone sex sites than get on cam. Cam can be so exhausting. People do fail to realize you can make just as much or more with phone sex if you work it right.

I agree...The shaving, the make-up, the posing...(ouch my back hurts), trolls, "let me bb."
I see some girls killing it and I am happy for them but I'd rather have a few drinks, relax on my coach, have a herbal refreshment and talk... and text.


One thing about Talk to me... they seem to take a lot for their cut. I definitely will be on that phone tonight!

Amy Lee
09-12-2016, 04:14 PM
DL says they don't accept content, except all of the girls look like models...and I don't see any Latina/Back women... 

CandiceS
09-12-2016, 04:57 PM
Apparently Dream Lover doesn't accept ladies in Brazi...fuck! :(

Amy Lee
09-12-2016, 07:54 PM
NF and their fucking bidding process....I paid money to be featured and got zero calls... and all of my money is gone. What the flying fuck?!? I need to find a thread on here that explains how this whole bidding works...any of you have it? Money down the fucking toilet.

avalon_rose
09-13-2016, 04:53 AM
NF and their fucking bidding process....I paid money to be featured and got zero calls... and all of my money is gone. What the flying fuck?!? I need to find a thread on here that explains how this whole bidding works...any of you have it? Money down the fucking toilet.

You bid for placement. So every time someone clicks on your listing and it's considered a 'Qualified Click', you get charged for that click (up to whatever amount you bid per click). It doesn't guarantee phone calls - though it will definitely get your listing higher up on the pages and seen.

Try bidding smaller amounts and set a budget so that after so much clicking, if you still have no phone calls, you can look into seeing why without wasting anymore money. If your profile is being clicked on and seen, but not called, you might want to re-assess your listing/price, etc. :)

TheBrownFox
09-13-2016, 06:10 AM
DL says they don't accept content, except all of the girls look like models...and I don't see any Latina/Back women... 


I've been signed up on DreamLover for months now for strictly texting, and I haven't received a single text yet. Maybe if I had it set to receive calls as well, I may have had better luck? I could also blame the *crickets* on the fact that I hadn't really been advertising DL on Twitter (I've tweeted about DL maybe a grand total of 3-5 times? LOL), however I tweet everyday when I get on ImLive, and I don't believe that's ever resulted in a Twitter follower coming to ImLive to spend on me. I think the guys who follow me on Twitter are mostly MFC guys, and maybe a few guys who liked some of my posts on ACF.

And my profile and basic information is still "pending approval" on Talk To Me.

dollbaby23
09-13-2016, 08:41 AM
I did the same thing 2 years ago. I sent them a message too! I actually saw yesterday that my account is still open with them. Ugh

Amy Lee
09-13-2016, 11:18 AM
You bid for placement. So every time someone clicks on your listing and it's considered a 'Qualified Click', you get charged for that click (up to whatever amount you bid per click). It doesn't guarantee phone calls - though it will definitely get your listing higher up on the pages and seen.

Try bidding smaller amounts and set a budget so that after so much clicking, if you still have no phone calls, you can look into seeing why without wasting anymore money. If your profile is being clicked on and seen, but not called, you might want to re-assess your listing/price, etc. :)

Thank you for breaking that down for me, being 500 is like WTH? So it's by clicks...got it! =)

Amy Lee
09-13-2016, 11:24 AM
I've been signed up on DreamLover for months now for strictly texting, and I haven't received a single text yet. Maybe if I had it set to receive calls as well, I may have had better luck? I could also blame the *crickets* on the fact that I hadn't really been advertising DL on Twitter (I've tweeted about DL maybe a grand total of 3-5 times? LOL), however I tweet everyday when I get on ImLive, and I don't believe that's ever resulted in a Twitter follower coming to ImLive to spend on me. I think the guys who follow me on Twitter are mostly MFC guys, and maybe a few guys who liked some of my posts on ACF.

And my profile and basic information is still "pending approval" on Talk To Me.

Hey Hon, Talk to me took about a week for me...you can create more than one profile on there too...but it finally got approved and I took some calls last night. Mainly cheapo's, using the promotion and some content purchases. They will approve you soon! =)

I am second guessing DL, I don't see woman of color on there (Chinese, Black, Latin, Etc) so it may not be a place to make good money if you are...wait I am lying, I saw a few women of color on there but in spurts. I'm pulling away from them and just going to do the 3 sites that I am on...2 for PSO and one for Cam.

NF hasn't been much luck for me, I've been available for over a month and not one call. I advertise and everything...I'm not giving up though.

DancesWithSloths
09-13-2016, 11:38 AM
Try bidding smaller amounts and set a budget so that after so much clicking, if you still have no phone calls, you can look into seeing why without wasting anymore money. If your profile is being clicked on and seen, but not called, you might want to re-assess your listing/price, etc. :)

That's actually a great strategy they use at tech start-ups: spend a tiny amount of money on advertising, and analyse traffic vs sales after each 100 or so customer clicks, tweaking and optimising your sales page until you find the design with the best click-to-sale ratio.

What kind of analytics does NF have on the profile, if any? Like, can you see how many clicks came, where they came from, etc?

xxxluv
09-13-2016, 12:12 PM
Lately, I have been focusing more on PSO, Texting and indy cam. Today the cam goddess was good and im not done. I absolutely love camming but when its slow its slow. When I can talk and text while editing vids, shopping, fake cleaning and planning on taking over the world lol , while making $$$ its a grand day.

I started out small so to speak 3 listings on TTM and PSO im up to more on both. Just started adding different pictures with pic sets I purchased for new characters. So far so good.

I am all about working smarter not harder and instead of me trying to break my neck on cam, I plan on split my week to some days just phone/ text.

Also, I signed up for dreamlover so long ago i forgot. I honestly do not remember receiving any texts/calls i also never promoted. Sextpanther is ok , I promote it here and there and I think I will stick to that.
I always think of signing up for other text/phone sites that are similar , chatstar but they are still heavily focused on bringing in your customer base. So for now I just through out my sext panther number and do convert some guys.

CandiceS
09-13-2016, 03:21 PM
I've only advertised my DL link on Twitter maybe a dozen times. I lucked out catching a random whale with it, who as far as I can tell, has never even done a cam show with me, but now I make over a grand a month on him via texting.

I wouldn't say it's necessarily a bad place to work if you're a WOC -- it's sort of an irrelevant point because what matters is that you drive your own traffic. The site isn't designed to help guys find a model, since there are no categories for different niches/ethnicities/etc. The only thing you can do there is search by name. I have no idea how they choose the order to list their models, I don't think the placement ever changes.

I'm afraid porn stars come first as I saw a few of them in the first page, including Kendra Lust...I know cause I've seen plenty of her movies lol

avalon_rose
09-13-2016, 04:45 PM
That's actually a great strategy they use at tech start-ups: spend a tiny amount of money on advertising, and analyse traffic vs sales after each 100 or so customer clicks, tweaking and optimising your sales page until you find the design with the best click-to-sale ratio.

What kind of analytics does NF have on the profile, if any? Like, can you see how many clicks came, where they came from, etc?

I have not super looked into NF's analytics. It does break down your clicks. Will tell you if it's a Qualified Click, Unqualified Click, a guest, a flirt, or someone that has spent money on you recently. As for WHERE the traffic comes from, I don't know that that exists on NF. I use Bitly for my other links, but I haven't attempted to see if there's any correlation between my QC's and advertising links.

Girly_Girl
09-13-2016, 08:20 PM
I started the sign up process for talk to me but where it ask for the profile title (says it can't be changed) should I put my stage name that I use for camming so my fans can find me? Or would it be better to put something else here? Opinions on this?

JaceyLynn
09-13-2016, 09:00 PM
You can change it but you have to email support to do so. I put my stage name in the profile title field because that is what shows up in the url. If you have them change it after the fact it does not change the url though, lesson I learned the hard way.

Rina
09-14-2016, 06:57 AM
I have not super looked into NF's analytics. It does break down your clicks. Will tell you if it's a Qualified Click, Unqualified Click, a guest, a flirt, or someone that has spent money on you recently. As for WHERE the traffic comes from, I don't know that that exists on NF. I use Bitly for my other links, but I haven't attempted to see if there's any correlation between my QC's and advertising links.
You can see where your clicks come from and you can also see you conversion rate and customer retention rates. To see where clicks are coming from it's Reports->Performance Reports->Web Analytics then selct listing or goodies and you can see where the clicks are coming from. It's not perfect and it can be glithy but it helps especially when you have data from other sources. To see customer conversion and retention now this si only kind of useful because it's given as a percentile compared to other flirts but at least it's information. It's under Featured Listings-> Value Score. LVS determines placement so I wish they were more transparent but that's NF for you.

avalon_rose
09-14-2016, 11:20 AM
You can see where your clicks come from and you can also see you conversion rate and customer retention rates. To see where clicks are coming from it's Reports->Performance Reports->Web Analytics then selct listing or goodies and you can see where the clicks are coming from. It's not perfect and it can be glithy but it helps especially when you have data from other sources. To see customer conversion and retention now this si only kind of useful because it's given as a percentile compared to other flirts but at least it's information. It's under Featured Listings-> Value Score. LVS determines placement so I wish they were more transparent but that's NF for you.

OMG! Thanks for this! <3

TheBrownFox
09-14-2016, 10:06 PM
The folks over at Talk To Me rejected my photo ID (the same photo ID I've used for several other adult sites' applications) saying that it's blurry. *sigh* I'll take care of that tomorrow morning. Don't feel like dealing with all of that right now.

Ms.Lacey
09-15-2016, 10:14 AM
The folks over at Talk To Me rejected my photo ID (the same photo ID I've used for several other adult sites' applications) saying that it's blurry. *sigh* I'll take care of that tomorrow morning. Don't feel like dealing with all of that right now.


They rejected me also so I went outside and placed it under my chin. Approved within a couple of hours.

Amy Lee
09-16-2016, 04:43 PM
I started the sign up process for talk to me but where it ask for the profile title (says it can't be changed) should I put my stage name that I use for camming so my fans can find me? Or would it be better to put something else here? Opinions on this?

I emailed support to change mines like 4 days ago and haven't heard anything yet... but yes emailing them is how to do it.

TheBrownFox
09-17-2016, 01:51 PM
Weird question, but do y'all get PSO (or even sexting messages) calls during the daytime Mon. - Fri. school hours? Like maybe from guys who work overnight jobs, and daytime is their only time of leisure and busting a nut.

EricaErotica
09-17-2016, 02:22 PM
The internet is open 24/7 worldwide. You can get phone sex calls and sext messages ANYTIME that you are logged in. Try to work a set schedule and try to be available when your best customers are available as well.

TheBrownFox
09-17-2016, 03:10 PM
The internet is open 24/7 worldwide. You can get phone sex calls and sext messages ANYTIME that you are logged in. Try to work a set schedule and try to be available when your best customers are available as well.

Thanks, but that's not what I was asking. I was asking the ladies here if they get any hits during that time, or pretty much *crickets* then. I appreciate your reply. :) *Hug*

kortneykay
09-17-2016, 04:12 PM
Yes, I do but it seems to be busier at night. I find just leaving things on allows spurts of calls/texts.

Glamourmilf
09-17-2016, 07:54 PM
Thanks, but that's not what I was asking. I was asking the ladies here if they get any hits during that time, or pretty much *crickets* then. I appreciate your reply. :) *Hug*

I only get calls during the evening hours on my dominatrix lines.
The other characters get daytime callers . You know, slutty wife next door, etc.

avalon_rose
09-17-2016, 09:20 PM
When I can leave everything on 24/7 is when I get the most calls - although the majority of my calls come in during the daytime. I do have a few regulars that call in the evenings, but I feel like I make most of my money during the day M-F. Of course, when I only log in for the day time when I can't leave my lines on 24/7, it slows up for me. Go figure that.

But yes, I get hits during the day. :) That's my busiest cam time, too, for some reason!

I'm EST, if that helps or is important to you.

kortneykay
09-17-2016, 10:06 PM
Weekends always pop off too, made $350 tonight just off of phone and text, and it's only 1am. PHONE SEX IS NOT DEAD :D Get yours, ladies! Take that break from cam when you need to and hustle these phone addicts, lol.

avalon_rose
09-17-2016, 10:27 PM
I really need to figure out how y'all do this text thing so well. I'm on TTM and I've had one or two clients text a bunch but nowhere near the kind of money it sounds like y'all are making.

Teddy_Bear
09-18-2016, 06:23 AM
I make loads of money from PSO and sometimes I think I should just quit camming and rely on it solely but I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket, which is why I cam as well. They also overlap I often get cam guys that want to call me for phone sex while watching my cam in the show (normally on AW), I'm guessing because they can't have audio on for the cam show but still want to hear the naughty goings on ;)

heyho
09-18-2016, 08:04 AM
Does PSO require you use an actual phone for calls and texts? I'm not in the US so the international charges would be huge for me >.<

Or is there a site with Skype-like kinda deal where you can text/do calls over the internet?

xCamLovex
09-18-2016, 09:28 AM
How does texting work on TalkToMe?

I'm having the same issue as some of you ladies with rejected IDs.

kortneykay
09-18-2016, 02:07 PM
I really need to figure out how y'all do this text thing so well. I'm on TTM and I've had one or two clients text a bunch but nowhere near the kind of money it sounds like y'all are making.

I sell my own text packages for $1.99 per min for 10 min, work TTM, and work arousr and other texting gigs. I also cross promote. So while I may be texting, I push gallery items, vids, I even offer a VIP service to clients who want no limits texting (which some sites only do taboo) and charge them out the fucking ass.

One place isn't going to make you what you want all the time, you'll make more cash spreading yourself out and leave it on ALL day until you log out for breaks, etc. The $380 I ended up with was made from texting, and phone sex on 4 sites spread out. Not one, FOUR, lol. YOU GOT THIS!

kortneykay
09-18-2016, 02:10 PM
Does PSO require you use an actual phone for calls and texts? I'm not in the US so the international charges would be huge for me >.<

Or is there a site with Skype-like kinda deal where you can text/do calls over the internet?

You can purchase a skype number or google number and pass that off. However, most platforms have texting plans and a number the guys text. If it doesn't go to your phone, just text on the platform itself.

kortneykay
09-18-2016, 02:10 PM
How does texting work on TalkToMe?

I'm having the same issue as some of you ladies with rejected IDs.

One of two options is to text on their 'chat' which pays the same. Or, SMS which gets sent to your cell. You can get a google number or skype number if you're out of the country.

avalon_rose
09-18-2016, 03:15 PM
I sell my own text packages for $1.99 per min for 10 min, work TTM, and work arousr and other texting gigs. I also cross promote. So while I may be texting, I push gallery items, vids, I even offer a VIP service to clients who want no limits texting (which some sites only do taboo) and charge them out the fucking ass.

One place isn't going to make you what you want all the time, you'll make more cash spreading yourself out and leave it on ALL day until you log out for breaks, etc. The $380 I ended up with was made from texting, and phone sex on 4 sites spread out. Not one, FOUR, lol. YOU GOT THIS!


That's awesome! Thanks!

I applied to Arousr a few months ago and haven't heard anything yet. Perhaps some following up is in order. I need to clearly work harder at promoting the text/Kik packages I have. It's inspiring to see you having success with it! :)

Amy Lee
09-18-2016, 05:16 PM
I know one thing, there are some cheap MF's on this site (TTM). Guess I need some regulars.

avalon_rose
09-18-2016, 06:43 PM
I know one thing, there are some cheap MF's on this site (TTM). Guess I need some regulars.

I find the clients I get on NF are of a higher/better 'quality' than callers on TTM. Not to say you can't or won't have good ones there, but they seem to be two different breeds of people, I swear.

heyho
09-18-2016, 08:50 PM
You can purchase a skype number or google number and pass that off. However, most platforms have texting plans and a number the guys text. If it doesn't go to your phone, just text on the platform itself.

Thanks kortney!

So I have a prepaid phone with no cell plan, which means that if I receive calls to my number the charges from my network are huuuuge. Do you mean that for, say, NF/TTM, using your phone for calls, the calls get charged to NF/TTM's platform and not through your cell network? Kind of like Whatsapp/Viber calls?

Glamourmilf
09-19-2016, 08:06 AM
I find the clients I get on NF are of a higher/better 'quality' than callers on TTM. Not to say you can't or won't have good ones there, but they seem to be two different breeds of people, I swear.

Yes, A million times this.:yes:

LAChloe
09-19-2016, 06:56 PM
I posted this question in other work, too- Does anyone know of anyone that writes adult content/blog posts for pso sites? I have contacted 3 different companies I found on google and no one has contacted me back. Thank you in advance!

sarabimaraj
09-19-2016, 07:08 PM
I posted this question in other work, too- Does anyone know of anyone that writes adult content/blog posts for pso sites? I have contacted 3 different companies I found on google and no one has contacted me back. Thank you in advance!

I do! Please send me a message or email me at [email protected]

kortneykay
09-19-2016, 08:15 PM
Thanks kortney!

So I have a prepaid phone with no cell plan, which means that if I receive calls to my number the charges from my network are huuuuge. Do you mean that for, say, NF/TTM, using your phone for calls, the calls get charged to NF/TTM's platform and not through your cell network? Kind of like Whatsapp/Viber calls?

I have unlimited calls... I meant that you have to buy a google number, or a skype number and forward calls/texts through there. You might not even have to use your own phone, just use skype's phone to do your calls. I dont have what'sapp or viber so I couldn't compare the two.

sexysusie
09-20-2016, 07:26 PM
I see you back peddled but phone sex IS like (and even better at times) camming money if you're good at it.

I've been offering phone lucratively myself for 6 years almost and know exactly what i'm talking about. If some people had read SLOWLY and thoroughly the first time, i wouldn't have had to explain it again *shrugs*