View Full Version : Phrendly.com, a new GFE option to consider
friendzone
03-05-2017, 08:26 AM
Thank you so much Nikki!!
yeah, there seems to be something kind of weird going on with the site. I'm doing OK, I think, for my first week..definitely not as great as I'm sure other people have done the past couple of months..but... it's ok for a passive thing. i like it being vanilla, and if i want to market to a fetish customer, i'll just advertise a certain way. I'm pretty sure we can rebrand ourselves on here fairly easily, if we need to. I did some light advertising on CL but I received more replies directly to my email instead of on the site. i keep trying to remind the guys it's a virtual bar when they complain about having to pay for it. and lets be real if they only want to buy women drinks in person because of proximity, that makes me feel even safer being online. anyway. i dont know what kind of longevity we can expect from this site but i really like the idea of it and think it has a lot of potential so long as they stick to their initial premise and don't try to take on too much too fast like cam sites. i haven't had any phone calls or video calls and i'm still doing ok for what it is. i think a lot of guys are just using their first $5-10 and bailing, so i dont know what that's doing for their numbers
Jupiter77
03-05-2017, 12:00 PM
I think everyone is too busy playing Zelda to be on Phrendly this weekend. That's what I'm telling myself. :)
Lets hope something happens soon.
I think CL banned my IP address or something
KaterinaKutie
03-05-2017, 02:42 PM
Newbies who signed up under me weren't getting ANY drinks ! If you look back I made several posts bein frustrated with it bc the text above my referral link clearly states they'll get a free drink for signing up under me. It makes the point of advertising completely moot. What incentive do they have to try out and potentially use it?
None. I've been aggravated for days about his and judging by the none response nobody else was having the problem.
KaterinaKutie
03-05-2017, 02:55 PM
I know if you add a credit card it gives you a free drink... but there was no indication of that ... just sign up through referral and get a free drink to start with to try out. So why should they have to do that when there was no indication of that? Plus to reward getting someone's credit card number when they may have no intention of spending money on the site is a little sketch to me.
I really hope Phrendly pulls through. I'm broke as a joke and Phrendly has been relatively easy so far in the first week. Except I've been depressed the past couple of days and not hustling for money ... and then got more depressed on all the money I missed out on by by not being active and responding. Then I would have even less motivation to hustle.
Whatever- I'm ready to get my ass back to work and I hope Phrendly makes it through and doesn't start FUCKING around.
KaterinaKutie
03-05-2017, 03:15 PM
I will say that I don't think Phrendly as is right now is viable. Perhaps that's why there's been these issues.
As you girls mentioned they really need to expand their marketing and appeal to a different type of consumer. Straight up vanilla guys have very little incentive to use this site. Why would they when they can talk to girls for free on some sites and for a flat fee on others ? And again- not too hard to get sects and nudes and all. I just don't think the vanilla dating site market is a good target.
I think if Phrendly changed that up there would be immense potential. Instead of a "vanilla dating site" I think they should be more like mygirlfund and talktome. Like y'all mentioned- cater to those with fetishes.
Even if it kind of works as a vanilla dating site, it doesn't really have any incentive for guys to stay on the site. They may spend some money there at first, but eventually they'll realize they are better suited elsewhere or want someone they can meet in person or something.
The site needs to cater to a market that will produce loyal regular customers/users. If they try to cater to a market where they are a novelty at first, and can get a number of that market to spend money for a short amount of time- they won't be able to last.
Kind of like how with cam girls it's best to specialize and find your niche and go with that. What makes you special and different from everyone else? What can your site offer that other sites don't? Because being pay per message and all is a huge benefit to the girls getting paid, but not exactly guys. You need something more than that to offer. Specialize. Market to a community with a specific need that Phrendlg can fulfill better than typical dating sites and other competitors.
IF ANYBODY FROM PHRENDLY IS READING- PLEASE LISTEN. I'm a newbie so maybe my opinion is totally off base. But I feel like Phrendly has a LOT of potential and can easily be a top competitor to sites like my girl fund and talk to me. But not as things are currently. Tweak Phrendly until it sticks, bc being a vanilla dating site isn't working. The other girls already suggested catering/marketing to more specific fetishes- which is a great idea. One of those fetishes could even be GFE.
I've been thinking this since I started on Phrendly and based on what everyone else is saying I don't think I'm far off base.
KaterinaKutie
03-05-2017, 03:37 PM
Oh and just an FYI in regards to advertising/your referral link/people finding you on Phrendly.The referral link does NOT link to your profile, just the Phrendly main site. This is what is supposed to happen according to Phrendly support and how it is set up. They "said" they're working on having it go to your specific profile.
Anyways you NEED to make a unique name so that people can find you. It's simple and if you're the only one- they will find you. So give them your link and your name. You'll need to change it to s unique name or else they won't be able to find you because there will be 5 "Katerina"s.
friendzone
03-06-2017, 03:38 AM
Yeah I don't know how we'd get any money from the sign-up when the link doesn't work, even if they say they'll retroactively credit us. I get they can trace the hits to the site from the link, but if they're also not giving guys the sign-up credit and they've lowered it? I guess :/
This site reminds me of the earlier days of big box cam sites in the 2000-2003 Friendster-type site era where you could still be non-nude and non-sexual and make money. That in itself is a niche, the vanilla niche, sure, but it's one where the guys maybe didn't want to be engaging with porn stars or models. That's the appeal of these sites. They want to know they aren't talking to bots or actresses, and that it isn't an Ashley Madison type of scheme. The site's entire M.O is being a virtual meeting spot for an online relationship. It's already being marketed as a virtual GFE. I think if they try to become more of a competitive adult site, it will lose a lot of its appeal. If anything, this should be the alternative to our "how much bb?" clientele we're all sick of on cams and NF/TTM. If it becomes more of a site where we're hustling photos and cam sessions, I mean, it's only going to continue to be flooded in the exact same way camming sites have been- more models willing to do more for much less.
Since we're already doing our own marketing, as the site stands now, what makes a higher earner is their photos, personality, responses to the messages we DO manage to pull in, and where and how we choose to advertise. It's definitely not perfect, by any means, but at the same time, I think if we want to market it toward a specific niche market, we'll be the ones who need to make that effort. I don't think they would even know where to promote to a market that would be willing to spend versus the same market bringing all the freeloaders, a la MFC, SM, Chaturbate, etc.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing more sites like this popping up and they will all eventually become low-key sex work advertising sites.
lotus_latte
03-06-2017, 08:19 AM
i'm honestly feeling sad that it seems like the site is going downhill lately and on top of that we get no reply from Jamma at all :/
Violethollywood
03-06-2017, 10:53 AM
i get alot of guys asking me where im from and then ghosting once i give them an answer. and then i get the ones that spell out their number and i tell them im not giving them my real number and they're like you dont have to i gave you mine --- #FACEPALM
DonaDiabla
03-06-2017, 12:45 PM
Actually, Friendzone, I would like to add something to your statement about this site and vanilla thing. Personally, I am pretty happy with the whole NF and other fetish sites. In fact, fetish is one of my main money makers as cam model, pso, and even sugar baby. I do not have those same problems that many may have with the alleged cam sites being "flooded". I am a non-nude domme and I do not get a lot of "How much bb" because I do not work on free chat sites. I work PPM, speciality, and foreign sites. Those markets are not "flooded" and have tons of untapped potential. Even my Girlfriend experience is full of different fetishes and that is how I like it.
However, my main problem would be that the vanilla GFE market can only go so far. Because this site is competition with cam models and other sex worker who offer this as part of vip packages. In addition, look how crappy sites such as mygirlfund turned out because they catered to cheap vanilla dudes. Frankly, the key is to cater to as many demographics as possible without crushing the original idea.
To be honest, I have brought my own fetish guys to this site but I wanted to see if the company themselves would try to market to light fetish guys. That way it doesn't to be so noticeable to the more vanilla clientele. Phrendly is not owned by any of us and I was just wishing that they could expand to cater to light fetish guys such as those into the panty fetish or tit worship. However, it is up to them and their version. I just know that as an adult business owner myself that fetish guys spend more money on their various fetishes than vanilla guys. I am thinking of Phrendly marketing to fetish guys such as panty boys and other light fetish guys as expanding both our choices and money. My original post about marketing to fetish guys was coming from a business perspective not a personal one.
Yeah I don't know how we'd get any money from the sign-up when the link doesn't work, even if they say they'll retroactively credit us. I get they can trace the hits to the site from the link, but if they're also not giving guys the sign-up credit and they've lowered it? I guess :/
This site reminds me of the earlier days of big box cam sites in the 2000-2003 Friendster-type site era where you could still be non-nude and non-sexual and make money. That in itself is a niche, the vanilla niche, sure, but it's one where the guys maybe didn't want to be engaging with porn stars or models. That's the appeal of these sites. They want to know they aren't talking to bots or actresses, and that it isn't an Ashley Madison type of scheme. The site's entire M.O is being a virtual meeting spot for an online relationship. It's already being marketed as a virtual GFE. I think if they try to become more of a competitive adult site, it will lose a lot of its appeal. If anything, this should be the alternative to our "how much bb?" clientele we're all sick of on cams and NF/TTM. If it becomes more of a site where we're hustling photos and cam sessions, I mean, it's only going to continue to be flooded in the exact same way camming sites have been- more models willing to do more for much less.
Since we're already doing our own marketing, as the site stands now, what makes a higher earner is their photos, personality, responses to the messages we DO manage to pull in, and where and how we choose to advertise. It's definitely not perfect, by any means, but at the same time, I think if we want to market it toward a specific niche market, we'll be the ones who need to make that effort. I don't think they would even know where to promote to a market that would be willing to spend versus the same market bringing all the freeloaders, a la MFC, SM, Chaturbate, etc.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing more sites like this popping up and they will all eventually become low-key sex work advertising sites.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 12:51 PM
In my opinion, I like it being vanilla. I keep my fetish stuff for CMD and MFC.
A lot of the times I don't even have to sext or send pics and I like it that way.
It was supposed to be a sugar baby site, and thats fine. but I dont want it to turn out to be guys messaging off the bat wanting nudes and shit.
I appreciate my long conversations on Phrendly about random shit
and I've only had phone sex twice. All my other calls are just normal conversations.
So i'll be happy as long it stays the way it is. There are some good days there are some bad days but i'm not gonna complain about averaging $150-$250 a day by talking about my dogs and Netflix.
If I wanted to be pressured to do fetish stuff I would log into to CMD or MFC
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 12:53 PM
Hi!
We’ve just launched phrendly.com (https://beta.phrendly.com/pss01a), a site that attracts wealthy, older men for an online-only girlfriend experience. You can earn money responding to texts, taking phone calls, or doing video sessions. Choose how and when you want to communicate and set your own price. We have special systems that forward calls and texts so you never have to worry about revealing your actual phone number.
Phrendly was born out of the observation that a lot of people like ONLY the texting back-and-forth part of dating apps; they aren’t interested in meeting up—for a variety of reasons. It’s hard for guys to find women willing to do this today. Dating apps are for meeting up with a partner and adult sites are, well, for getting off. Phrendly fills the void between these two and allows guys to have a secret “pocket girlfriend” that gives them the thrill of feeling wanted without the weight of an IRL relationship.
And they’re willing to pay for it. To keep things more natural and “girlfriendy”, they pay by sharing “drinks” with you, much as they would at a wine bar or club. The drinks have a cash value that goes into your account, and you get paid out via direct deposit or paper check—your choice.
Phrendly is new, although the company is made up of industry vets who’ve been doing this sort of thing for over a decade. We’re about to start advertising the site heavily. In our experience, women that get in early achieve the most success, so if you’re at all interested, you should check it out (https://beta.phrendly.com/pss01a) right now (best to sign up via a computer, not your phone).
Full disclosure: I’m part of the team, but I think it’s worth a look. If you have questions or comments, I’d be happy to field them here.
https://beta.phrendly.com/pss01a
Just remember what Phrendly is supposed to be. the last thing we want is it turning into a cam site.
DonaDiabla
03-06-2017, 01:33 PM
I was not suggesting it turn into a cam site either. However, it is not a sugar baby site either. It is a vanilla girlfriend site :) Which is fine but I was suggesting a bit variety that all. :)
Just remember what Phrendly is supposed to be. the last thing we want is it turning into a cam site.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 02:02 PM
If people see Fetish things openly advertised on Phrendly they will assume that all the girls there are primarily there for sex talk or sexually related things.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 02:13 PM
I agree with Jupiter. I've made a few thousand since I joined three weeks ago mostly talking about stuff I could discuss with an old lady in line at Walmart.
Right I hope it can stay this way. I had a guy talk to me on the phone while we did a heist together in GTA V.
Like he made me money in the video game and on Phrendly win win win win win.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-06-2017, 02:16 PM
My issue with Phrendly is that it's owned by Niteflirt and have yet to make texting services available on that platform first. Nor have they introduced the onsite video client thats available on Phrendly for Niteflirt. For years people have begged for these features and nothing. Also I take issue with a company encouraging people to place ads and promote a link that doesn't pay an affiliate fee or at least allow for direct linking to your profile. But again this is a NF company who has one of the worst affiliate programs I've ever seen. I've kept my eye on this thread for sometime and I'm glad that people have been able to make it work but companies should compensate you for your marketing efforts.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 02:18 PM
My issue with Phrendly is that it's owned by Niteflirt and have yet to make texting services available on that platform first. Nor have they introduced the onsite video client thats available on Phrendly for Niteflirt. For years people have begged for these features and nothing. Also I take issue with a company encouraging people to place ads and promote a link that doesn't pay an affiliate fee or at least allow for direct linking to your profile. But again this is a NF company who has one of the worst affiliate programs I've ever seen. I've kept my eye on this thread for sometime and I'm glad that people have been able to make it work but companies should compensate you for your marketing efforts.
It would be nice if they tried as hard as us girls did to bring in new customers..
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-06-2017, 02:24 PM
It would be nice if they tried as hard as us girls did to bring in new customers..
It would be nice if ALL companies did this. But many do not because they've figured out that performers are willing to do this for them without compensation. Truthfully this thread has been working my last nerve because they should have implemented referral codes from the start and to see a rep time and time again come here to say things like AWESOME WORK keep it up! If Jamma returns I really hope that for those of you who've put in a lot of time you'll start getting credited.
Bridgetxo
03-06-2017, 03:06 PM
It's definitely been slow, that's for sure. I made a good amount on Saturday night but that was only because 2 people bought a bunch of drinks. These last two days have been very quiet. But it also sucks the guys are only getting half of a drink now. If I don't reply right away, they have usually spent all their credits by the time I message them back.
xxxGothBarbie
03-06-2017, 03:34 PM
Ya it's def been harder for me the last day or so bc my regs seems to have spent too much money since my rates are high & have not been responding to my messages anymore. I haven't really taken the time to market it anywhere else & I really should try the POF route to get more guys. Have you ladies had those regs that were spending like crazy then just stopped no reply or nothin yet?
I've made better money on here than I have camming so I'd like to keep this site going as a side egg if all possible. So should I even tell them at sign up they'll get a free drink or?
Mal707
03-06-2017, 03:52 PM
Damn, I stopped getting notifications for new replies to this thread, so I got some reading to do :D CL has been working for me again, so I'm psyched
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 04:23 PM
Hahaha. One of my regulars was trying to send me $60 as a gift for my phone bill but they dont have a $60 option so he sent $100 lololol
jamma
03-06-2017, 04:33 PM
I noticed guys have been disappearing after only 10 messages. I thought at first I was just getting unlucky. I guess the guys only get $5 when they join now.
Yes, we are only giving half a drink ($5; 10 sips) now to new members once they verify their phone numbers. This is simply because it was costing too much in free drinks to acquire paying customers. The good news: In the nearly one week since making this change, we have seen no real change *except* for the savings in promotional money. It is true that newbies "run out" faster, but they become paying customers at the same rate as before. Apparently, you *are* giving them what they need to make their decision to open their wallets within the first 10 volleys.
More importantly to you, we also saw both record spend and record earnings this past week, so while you might have to talk to more guys to get the same amount of money, they are definitely there and we'll continue to ramp our marketing efforts to ensure that remains the case.
jamma
03-06-2017, 04:36 PM
i'm honestly feeling sad that it seems like the site is going downhill lately and on top of that we get no reply from Jamma at all :/
So sorry, Lotus (and others)! I took the weekend off and wasn't in this particular forum as much as I like last week. We're still here busting our butts to make this work and are thankful for all of you who are doing the same!
Mal707
03-06-2017, 04:51 PM
Whoa I just read everything. Crazy. I thought it was kinda weird when one guy told me he got a message from Phrendly asking him to buy a drink but he had only messaged back and forth with me like 10 times. That sucks they decreased the drink amount for new members :/
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 04:51 PM
lo and behold WHAMMA JAMMA IS BACK.
Nice to see you man.
I agree I thought you left us forever,
I was like "fuck better get back on mfc"
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-06-2017, 04:55 PM
Performers need to be made aware of these sort of changes. Even if you're not gonna check in on SW everyday, Phrendly has access to everyone's email address. You could send out a newsletter including this information. It shows that you actually value the people who are busting their butts to send traffic to your site. Also when exactly are you going to implement those referral codes? Now that you're saving money with your marketing efforts can you guys kick back some funds to those who put in the work?
Yes, we are only giving half a drink ($5; 10 sips) now to new members once they verify their phone numbers. This is simply because it was costing too much in free drinks to acquire paying customers. The good news: In the nearly one week since making this change, we have seen no real change *except* for the savings in promotional money. It is true that newbies "run out" faster, but they become paying customers at the same rate as before. Apparently, you *are* giving them what they need to make their decision to open their wallets within the first 10 volleys.
More importantly to you, we also saw both record spend and record earnings this past week, so while you might have to talk to more guys to get the same amount of money, they are definitely there and we'll continue to ramp our marketing efforts to ensure that remains the case.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 04:56 PM
I cant remember where I saw it but what is the percentage for gifts? is it 80%?
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 05:01 PM
Oh snap yessss
jamma
03-06-2017, 05:07 PM
Newbies who signed up under me weren't getting ANY drinks ! If you look back I made several posts bein frustrated with it bc the text above my referral link clearly states they'll get a free drink for signing up under me. It makes the point of advertising completely moot. What incentive do they have to try out and potentially use it?
None. I've been aggravated for days about his and judging by the none response nobody else was having the problem.
This is one of a couple comments about our TAF program. Let me try to explain a few things--it's a mixed bag and I wish it were more rosy.
First, some quick background. The referrer program was designed as a Tell-A-Friend program, not an affiliate program. It was essentially built so that guys could tell their buddies about Phrendly and get a little something for doing so. We might be able to agree that this probably wasn't the smartest decision, since it's not hard to imagine subsets of guys who do NOT want others to know about their use of the site. But, that's how it was designed, and is why the links just go to the front-door and not anyone's profile page.
We were encouraged to hear many users on this forum using the TAF links, despite it's flaws and different original design objectives. Credits were granted when guys you referred became paying customers. Many of you referred other ladies, too, and rightly asked why you weren't getting credit. The reason is the program only looked at a *spend* threshold to grant the award, not an *earning* threshold. We scrambled to make this change and now you do get credit once your "friend" spends or *earns* the threshold amount. These credits are applied retro-actively once thresholds are reached and some of you have reported seeing them in your account. Yay!
We haven't yet released the change that makes the links go to your own profile, if you are a woman with a public profile (with different logic if you aren't either of those things). We are actively working on that. It will definitely make your advertising efforts more worthwhile. All I can say is thanks to everyone who has tried to make the existing, poorly suited links work. We really appreciate it, and that's why decisions like paying retroactively for earners (rather than spenders) were easy for us. We want to keep happy the people who are working hard to make us all successful. Your collective efforts have been encouraging, particularly during the hectic stressful months of beta.
Now, the even-less-rosy part: we did mess up regarding the change in the promotional "free drinks" change. We changed this for new sign-ups and it unfortunately and inadvertently changed the TAF program too. We're now working to fix that so that everyone you refer *does* get the $10 they are promised and not $5. We're also looking at crediting the extra $5 for your referees who were under-credited. This did NOT affect your payments. If your friend reaches the earn or spend threshold, your account will be credited.
Let me know if there is anything else I can attempt to clarify.
jamma
03-06-2017, 05:08 PM
It was 90%, but that may have changed.
Yup, still 90%.
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 05:22 PM
Yup, still 90%.
Messaged you Jamma about gifts
Jupiter77
03-06-2017, 05:39 PM
Has anybody ever had a gift not credit their account? it shows up that they sent it in their chat but does not reflect in my balance
xxxGothBarbie
03-07-2017, 01:57 AM
http://image.farm/images/2017/03/07/8f055937daf6f9e141626cae8e2b362b.png
If there is some magic algorithm that can filter out f*ckboys......... I'm all for it.
like damn say hi first at least; buy a girl a drink first?
I've srsly had most of my highest paying regs only want strictly sexting from the moment they first msg me. I do it bc I realize now that most of the guy's are leaning towards this moreso than "getting to know someone" & when i've denied them of sexting, i end up losing money. I do try to steer it more vanilla but if all else fails then ...hey I'm on here just to make money & apparently sex is selling LOL . I don't offer nudes unless they gift me first then it's scantily clads haha.
How do you guys get them to just call you instead of texting? Do you girls do more texting than actual phone/video calls? Also, I've got my rates set pretty darn high at like 2 drinks per min & I'm wondering if that's why they aren't calling as much? What are your rates?
grneyesnfl
03-07-2017, 05:48 AM
Ok. I asked Mark--for verification. All Businesses that are whatever 1099's are are REQUIRED to 1. report earnings on any US 1099 worker earning $600 or more to the IRS and to also do a 1099 for us.
he gave me this link--which as far as I could read, he is correct--but tax stuff confuses me--why I am getting an accountant https://www.irs.gov/uac/about-form-1099misc
This information is incorrect. Phrendly (as well as Niteflirt) are both payment processors. We are not independent contractors nor do we work for them. We're self-employed business owners who use them to process payments for us for the services we offer on their websites. Other companies that issue 1099-K's are Uber, Ebay, Etsy and Paypal. They're a fairly new thing, having only been around for about the last 5 years. The threshold for a 1099-Misc (which is a totally different thing) is $600. Those are not used in this instance.
You can read more here: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-1099-k
Jupiter77
03-07-2017, 06:49 AM
Woke up to a 30 min phone call it's not even 6am
friendzone
03-07-2017, 08:02 AM
Actually, Friendzone, I would like to add something to your statement about this site and vanilla thing. Personally, I am pretty happy with the whole NF and other fetish sites. In fact, fetish is one of my main money makers as cam model, pso, and even sugar baby. I do not have those same problems that many may have with the alleged cam sites being "flooded". I am a non-nude domme and I do not get a lot of "How much bb" because I do not work on free chat sites. I work PPM, speciality, and foreign sites. Those markets are not "flooded" and have tons of untapped potential. Even my Girlfriend experience is full of different fetishes and that is how I like it.
However, my main problem would be that the vanilla GFE market can only go so far. Because this site is competition with cam models and other sex worker who offer this as part of vip packages. In addition, look how crappy sites such as mygirlfund turned out because they catered to cheap vanilla dudes. Frankly, the key is to cater to as many demographics as possible without crushing the original idea.
To be honest, I have brought my own fetish guys to this site but I wanted to see if the company themselves would try to market to light fetish guys. That way it doesn't to be so noticeable to the more vanilla clientele. Phrendly is not owned by any of us and I was just wishing that they could expand to cater to light fetish guys such as those into the panty fetish or tit worship. However, it is up to them and their version. I just know that as an adult business owner myself that fetish guys spend more money on their various fetishes than vanilla guys. I am thinking of Phrendly marketing to fetish guys such as panty boys and other light fetish guys as expanding both our choices and money. My original post about marketing to fetish guys was coming from a business perspective not a personal one.
That's great you don't get flooded with time-waster bb commenters, but just like anything non-adult oriented, they exist, and the more they are led to believe we are here to serve their needs, the more they come in droves. I agree the vanilla GFE can only go so far, it ran its course rather quickly in the beginning of the internet's overabundance of widely accessible adult content. I think we're essentially in agreement about variations of GFE and this site could tap into its potential, but I think it may sink too quickly as more sex workers flock to it and the more that's offered for less work on the man's part (like the above screenshot "nudes?" in the first message to get as much freebies as possible before his $5 credit runs out). I think if they advertise by creating categories for us, it will end up being passed off as another porn site. That's why we're getting lots of messages from guys with, "is this real?" "i was just seeing if this was a real girl, not a bot" etc. They already are suspicious of the site and I think if it starts looking like a porn site, that's the type of consumer we can expect.
Like Neptune and Jupiter were saying, this is a nice conversational alternative to our usual horny male sex work conversations. That's nice if you are a NN domme and don't receive as many spam comments like that from guys, but for many of us who've had to grown accustomed to that, this platform is a very nice alternative. The guys who want to start with sexts and nudes up front are the ones easily weeded out from ever becoming serious paying regulars because when you request a gift ($10 for god's sake) the gentlemen will spend it, and the ones who would be paying more than a couple dollars will call, do video, or keep texting long after their free credits expire. I wouldn't perform any labor before receiving payment, it shouldn't be any different on this site. Nothing wrong with jumping into the sexting for the text rate as its already higher than some text-only sites as it is! I'm thinking more long-term. That's why I made the comparison to early 2000's cam sites.. while of course there was sexually explicit content, the rules of the sites and how customers engaged with the models were completely different from how they are now, just like how sugar dating sites, in their infancy, weren't all scammers and cheap men posing as wealth for a quick and easy lay. Men are too entitled as it is, we should be demanding more from them.
lotus_latte
03-07-2017, 09:50 AM
i honestly don't know what to do anymore, POF isn't an option it seems because even when i open a new acc it's like it gets closed instantly, then okcupid doesn't work either since i send a message back about phrendly but none join and CL just flags my ads and i don't even get emails to it, i wanna cry gaaah
friendzone
03-07-2017, 10:04 AM
i honestly don't know what to do anymore, POF isn't an option it seems because even when i open a new acc it's like it gets closed instantly, then okcupid doesn't work either since i send a message back about phrendly but none join and CL just flags my ads and i don't even get emails to it, i wanna cry gaaah
CL was a bust for me, too, but I did get a couple guys saying they heard about the site that way.. Have you tried Canada's backpage? They still have an adult section, and maybe some of the larger cities there will bring some new guys? I've also been trying to find other places to promote other than Reddit..
DonaDiabla
03-07-2017, 10:32 AM
Well, I am from a different train of thoughts about this site than most of the girls on it. I just thought in the terms of marketing but as I said before...this is not my business platform, marketing plan, nor business vision. If other girls are okay with this, then fine. If the company is okay with this direction, then it is fine by me. I already have my own established company, brands, and vision.So, I am just on phrendly as I am on many different sites and just asked them about marketing to other demographics. That is all. I was just thinking about the money aspect and nothing more.
I have tons of different clientele from my different brands. Plus, I do not buy sugar dating sites not having scammers and cheap men on them from the beginning. They always had such men. This why I freestyle as an sugar baby with much success. Nor do I perform any labor in this industry without getting paid from men. They buy my kik memberships, phone calls, cam shows, erotica and other things.Plus, I always demand more from men and they deliver.I rule my life and career with an iron fist. :) That is all have to say about phrendly marketing to fetish guys. So, best of luck to you and the other ladies on this site :)
That's great you don't get flooded with time-waster bb commenters, but just like anything non-adult oriented, they exist, and the more they are led to believe we are here to serve their needs, the more they come in droves. I agree the vanilla GFE can only go so far, it ran its course rather quickly in the beginning of the internet's overabundance of widely accessible adult content. I think we're essentially in agreement about variations of GFE and this site could tap into its potential, but I think it may sink too quickly as more sex workers flock to it and the more that's offered for less work on the man's part (like the above screenshot "nudes?" in the first message to get as much freebies as possible before his $5 credit runs out). I think if they advertise by creating categories for us, it will end up being passed off as another porn site. That's why we're getting lots of messages from guys with, "is this real?" "i was just seeing if this was a real girl, not a bot" etc. They already are suspicious of the site and I think if it starts looking like a porn site, that's the type of consumer we can expect.
Like Neptune and Jupiter were saying, this is a nice conversational alternative to our usual horny male sex work conversations. That's nice if you are a NN domme and don't receive as many spam comments like that from guys, but for many of us who've had to grown accustomed to that, this platform is a very nice alternative. The guys who want to start with sexts and nudes up front are the ones easily weeded out from ever becoming serious paying regulars because when you request a gift ($10 for god's sake) the gentlemen will spend it, and the ones who would be paying more than a couple dollars will call, do video, or keep texting long after their free credits expire. I wouldn't perform any labor before receiving payment, it shouldn't be any different on this site. Nothing wrong with jumping into the sexting for the text rate as its already higher than some text-only sites as it is! I'm thinking more long-term. That's why I made the comparison to early 2000's cam sites.. while of course there was sexually explicit content, the rules of the sites and how customers engaged with the models were completely different from how they are now, just like how sugar dating sites, in their infancy, weren't all scammers and cheap men posing as wealth for a quick and easy lay. Men are too entitled as it is, we should be demanding more from them.
Jupiter77
03-07-2017, 01:15 PM
Yeah we complain about having bad days and shit, but so far, the "vanilla" and "GFE" aspect is working for a lot of us and we are having success. Dont want it to change.
lotus_latte
03-07-2017, 02:18 PM
CL was a bust for me, too, but I did get a couple guys saying they heard about the site that way.. Have you tried Canada's backpage? They still have an adult section, and maybe some of the larger cities there will bring some new guys? I've also been trying to find other places to promote other than Reddit..
ty, i'll give it a try! where do you promote on reddit? i never tried it before
xxtinamariexx
03-07-2017, 04:03 PM
I usually get guys talking for a few, then ask where I'm from and disappear. I have a few that want nudes. and one that is very dominate. which I dont mind at all. but... I have asked for gifts, I wish someone would send them. I don't like sending out photos for pennies. guys keep asking me to use kik or sending their number. no one just chatting for a GFE ... except ONE guy... the rest honestly think this is a dating site... I mean really... I have had no one that thought that we werent going to meet at some point. Some guy even told me to let him know when he should meet me at the airport :O
Maybe I'm to old for this site lol
Snowy0Star
03-07-2017, 04:18 PM
http://image.farm/images/2017/03/07/8f055937daf6f9e141626cae8e2b362b.png
If there is some magic algorithm that can filter out f*ckboys......... I'm all for it.
like damn say hi first at least; buy a girl a drink first?
im sassy and irish lol i would knock them down a peg and say something like "is that how you talk to girls at a bar just walk up to them and say 'sex?' how about a 'hi' first at least" and if i was in bad mood id add on "but thats probably y ur here... it dosnet go well for you huh it doesnt work well here either at least not with me so try again ?"
Jupiter77
03-08-2017, 10:47 AM
hey support emailed me back and said they would fix the .5 drink thing? (I had emailed them before Jamma clarified) but I dont think everyone is on the same page lol
Nikki_Fox
03-08-2017, 12:31 PM
I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies
jamma
03-08-2017, 12:45 PM
I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies
I see you. Are your age filters set appropriately?
xxtinamariexx
03-08-2017, 02:50 PM
I am not showing up in the lineup or if you search by my screen name - you might want to check for your own profile often ladies
How do you even search for yourself? I am only able to see guys? even searching my name doesn't work . It only says "Show men ages 18-60 available for Chat" so I can't even search for woman
Also:
If a guy initiates the chat but wants US to call him... is it US that gets charged for the call? or is he still getting the charge since HE initiated the original texting?
I have this guy and he keeps on wanting to give me his phone number t odo some off site and he will come back and pay me on the site every now and then... dude I GET FUCKING PAID FOR THIS EVERY DAY... I WILL NOT BE YOUR CUM SLUT FOR FREE, it's almost like free chat but not kwim and I so badly want to tell him that!!!! (end rant)
xxxGothBarbie
03-08-2017, 03:33 PM
How do you even search for yourself? I am only able to see guys? even searching my name doesn't work . It only says "Show men ages 18-60 available for Chat" so I can't even search for woman
Also:
If a guy initiates the chat but wants US to call him... is it US that gets charged for the call? or is he still getting the charge since HE initiated the original texting?
I have this guy and he keeps on wanting to give me his phone number t odo some off site and he will come back and pay me on the site every now and then... dude I GET FUCKING PAID FOR THIS EVERY DAY... I WILL NOT BE YOUR CUM SLUT FOR FREE, it's almost like free chat but not kwim and I so badly want to tell him that!!!! (end rant)
I search for myself by not signing in & searching men seeking women ages (your age range) I'm usually on 1st page but have noticed lately that I'm getting bumped down a row each day or two, not sure why.
Also for the calls, I'm pretty sure whoever calls gets charged. Like say if he calls then he gets charged, same with the messages (unless he's already messaged you then you don't get charged he does). MAke sense? If i'm wrong someone PLEASE correct me lol :)
jamma
03-08-2017, 04:50 PM
I search for myself by not signing in & searching men seeking women ages (your age range) I'm usually on 1st page but have noticed lately that I'm getting bumped down a row each day or two, not sure why.
Also for the calls, I'm pretty sure whoever calls gets charged. Like say if he calls then he gets charged, same with the messages (unless he's already messaged you then you don't get charged he does). MAke sense? If i'm wrong someone PLEASE correct me lol :)
Yes, for any real-time interaction (calls, video), whoever initiates pays. Chat pay direction is permanent based on who initiated the first message (they are the payer).