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Jambalam
07-16-2017, 12:29 PM
I hope i wont get into trouble for telling him that.

I don't think you would. This is from Phrendly's help section in the FAQ:

You mean I have to pay to flirt with someone?

You pay when you ask someone out for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, don’t you? Same deal here, and just like IRL, your date receives the benefit of your generosity: his or her account balance goes up. This keeps people motivated and focused and reduces time wasters. We give you a free sips if you take a profile photo and verify your phone number, so give it a whirl!

queenc
07-16-2017, 12:39 PM
48533
LOL... I won't share my Skype, so his next move is to invite me to a threesome. Wow...

What?? That's totally reasonable. I am sure he's one of those guys that are so awesome, you'd do whatever for free on an app made for basically cam girls. Haha

I have had pretty good luck with most people understanding that it's about me making money and them getting something for it. I got a request from someone I never even texted to do a cam show and it lasted thirty mins. But the just now I got one that wants a long term real relationship so maybe I spoke too soon.
They know they are paying for the texts. They may not know we are getting the money cuz they aren't the brightest bulbs sometimes but they constantly try to circumvent the system so they know. Like when they put their phone number in their profile....yes I see that a guy put his phone number with no picture on an random site....I must call right now. Not that a pic would help


Oh, I wanted to tell you guys about a guy I saw on there when I was looking st my matches. In his profile it says ladies , text me to spend your promo money or something like that. I thought it was genius cuz we all have money we can't cash out or buy gifts. And u don't want to start texting with a random guy that might end up texting you. But he is pretty upfront that he's not gonna text us haha. So yes I texted him to get rid of the fifteen bucks that is driving my OCD crazy and he's actually a part time cam boy or whatever u call them that says he gets mostly gay guys and knows that most girls will never pay for stuff we can easily get for free but he saw an opportunity and I gotta admire his hustle. On flirt for free some of their top earners are guys and guys on Chaturbate ....if they aren't just sitting there with their dicks out...make bank sometimes. Anyway That's a pretty good idea. And he didn't ask for pictures or send me a dick pic. It's refreshing talking to a guy who understands the business. I'm glad I decided to support a fellow cammer...by accident since I didn't know but still...anyway his name is Devon. Just thought I'd let you guys know in case anyone feels the same way I do. I really need to come up with new ideas for my camming and side eggs so when someone else has a good one, I give them props

seashell
07-16-2017, 05:23 PM
Omg, what a day... I just blocked my first person. He texted me a lot, sent me some gifts, and then called me on the phone today. He was literally planning our lives together as a married couple 10 years from now. o_o I hung up and blocked him. *shudders*

Bridgetxo
07-16-2017, 06:44 PM
The site has been so slow for me. I accidentally sent a message intended for one person to someone else. My fingers unfortunately move quicker than my brain. Right after I sent it I went oh shit! No way I am getting out of this one. I had to block the person right after before they started asking questions.

katydiamond123
07-16-2017, 06:54 PM
I hope i wont get into trouble for telling him that.

You won't get into trouble, Jambalam is right it's in the help section. But: Someone asked me how much I get from a box of chocolates and I told him 90%. After that he only paid me one box and didn't want to give me another one after he knew. I think he thought we got less and when he found out we actually get most of the money plus 70% from texting, he didn't want to pay as much. SO you may want to let him look it up.

Also a lot of guys ask if I work on the site. My answer is No, I get compensated for my time the same that you do if someone texted, phoned or vchatted you. But do you send out photos of your chest or ass? Because you will have to decide what it's worth in that case. They don't ask after that! lol

katydiamond123
07-16-2017, 07:03 PM
The site has been so slow for me. I accidentally sent a message intended for one person to someone else. My fingers unfortunately move quicker than my brain. Right after I sent it I went oh shit! No way I am getting out of this one. I had to block the person right after before they started asking questions.

LOL LOL I did that with a very explicit photo and message.

katydiamond123
07-16-2017, 07:33 PM
I talked to ginraboy last week and he does know it's online only bc I fucking told him, he's just hoping that one of us says yes. He's really weird


Don't you think that happens a lot? That they know because one of us told them and they just go from girl to girl trying? Men like a challenge and there are very few left nowadays.
I guess Phrendly has provided them with that!!

ChubbyCherub
07-16-2017, 08:31 PM
The site has been so slow for me. I accidentally sent a message intended for one person to someone else. My fingers unfortunately move quicker than my brain. Right after I sent it I went oh shit! No way I am getting out of this one. I had to block the person right after before they started asking questions.

with the app glitching like it is, I've done this twice recently. One was pretty harmless. The other was me sexting with one guy and chatting with another. I sent a very racy text to the wrong guy. It ended in a laugh and a good conversation

ChubbyCherub
07-16-2017, 08:43 PM
48536
Just got myself blocked :)

Burt, I think you're my spirit animal.

LivvyT
07-16-2017, 09:12 PM
48536
Just got myself blocked :)

Hahahahaha

LivvyT
07-16-2017, 09:16 PM
Tonight is so dead. Sundays used to be my busiest days, not anymore.

seashell
07-16-2017, 09:55 PM
Tonight is so dead. Sundays used to be my busiest days, not anymore.

Yeah, my morning was pretty busy, but everyone stopped texting me tonight. Maybe they're all watching the new Game of Thrones episode? haha

Anyone having issues with video chat? I've had issues getting it to work with 3 different guys. It's extremely frustrating... it didn't work at all on Google Chrome. I finally got it to work on my phone, but still took a few tries with each guy. Luckily they were willing to keep trying lol

Glamourmilf
07-17-2017, 08:32 AM
I don't see why you can't tell him. I mean, if he read the about section, it does tell you that you're paying the ladies to talk to you. That's how you keep the conversation going. At least, that's what it looks like from my end and it seems like a few paragraphs explaining it are spelled out towards the person paying.

Thank You.:-*
I FINALLY got the guy to call me, but phendly cut him off after just 15 minutes./:O
We both didn't know why.
Awful, because then he started pestering me with wanting my real phone number.
I told him no, and that's the last I heard from him.:'(
Too bad, because if phendly hadn't ended the call, I would have made over $100 my cut, just on that.
Oh, and I never received my bonus for referring all the guys I brought over from other dating sites.
Why? Phendly said it's because they needed to spend at least $15.

katydiamond123
07-17-2017, 08:42 AM
When it says >>Message not sent. This phrend is no longer available. Browse other profiles

Does this mean he blocked me or that he deleted his profile. He told me his profile was not yet approved he sent me a screenshot of the page but we texted all morning until that happened. I just got cut off all of a sudden. Which was fine with me since he wanted personal info. eventually so i told him I would phone him to get his mind off of it. After that he pretended his phone was not hooked up and I had to spend 20 sentences teaching him where the settings for his phone were ,then he didn't want it anymore. LOL LOL ( i find some guys block you after they come so wondering if that's what happened but if blocking you affects status I am writing to Phrendly because I did not one thing wrong)

katydiamond123
07-17-2017, 09:19 AM
I was cut off from a 5 hour text session with no explanation. Phrendly would not take responsibilty even though I had screen shots showing it. And it kept saying Phrendly was updating please try again later. I've lost money from glitches a lot. But I like working here. There is nowhere I would earn what I do working totally at home or out with my phone. And have the ability to block or choose what I do.

LadyGodga
07-17-2017, 11:51 AM
Thank You.:-*
I FINALLY got the guy to call me, but phendly cut him off after just 15 minutes./:O
We both didn't know why.
Awful, because then he started pestering me with wanting my real phone number.
I told him no, and that's the last I heard from him.:'(
Too bad, because if phendly hadn't ended the call, I would have made over $100 my cut, just on that.
Oh, and I never received my bonus for referring all the guys I brought over from other dating sites.
Why? Phendly said it's because they needed to spend at least $15.

Sounds like he ended the call after he felt like he had you reeled in, acted like he had no idea what happened and then was like well I might as well get your number since I have no idea why this happened. If he had intention of giving you 100, you would have gotten it.

These guys on here are notorious for trying to scam hustlers which is probably the dumbest thing you can try. Don't trust anyone. All they care about is free pussy. There is a special breed of freeloader that infects Phrendly.

WendiStarr
07-17-2017, 12:23 PM
Damn glitches on here lately

Glamourmilf
07-17-2017, 02:41 PM
Sounds like he ended the call after he felt like he had you reeled in, acted like he had no idea what happened and then was like well I might as well get your number since I have no idea why this happened. If he had intention of giving you 100, you would have gotten it.

These guys on here are notorious for trying to scam hustlers which is probably the dumbest thing you can try. Don't trust anyone. All they care about is free pussy. There is a special breed of freeloader that infects Phrendly.

Makes sense. But he hustled the wrong hustler.
He texted me last night, but I ignored him.
This morning he tried to get my attention, but I told him I needed to get a pedicure, and if he really cared about me, he'd pay for it.
I got my $100. And only sent him 2 nudes in exchange.
He's been texting non stop, since, until he went to work.
Once I get a hang of this site, I can see how it would pay off.

blondhottie
07-17-2017, 03:22 PM
I don't get how some women make enough on Phrendly to live on. Props to those who do, but I never make nearly enough. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong either-I look pretty in my gif, starred everybody,and am always super fast about replying to messages. But I always get the guys who only message a couple times and try to give me their real phone number, or try to get my phone number, KIK, or Snapchat. If I make money on here, I consider it a nice surprise, but I'm not expecting much. lol

queenc
07-17-2017, 05:46 PM
I don't see why you can't tell him. I mean, if he read the about section, it does tell you that you're paying the ladies to talk to you. That's how you keep the conversation going. At least, that's what it looks like from my end and it seems like a few paragraphs explaining it are spelled out towards the person paying.
I just realized why guys don't get that WE are being paid. Most of the legit dating sites where both people are actually looking for partners cost money to join...like match.com etc. so they think they are paying the site except for the gifts. And the site it set up so that hopefully the guys won't figure it out. That's why you can't send money only "gifts"
If I were a guy on a dating site and I saw that literally 1/4 of the girls were listed as amature porn stars, I'd think id figure out that is it a cam girl texting site. Which is all good but not a real dating site for sure. But guys don't read details as many of you guys showed in your screenshots. So it's on them
I wonder if the girls who actually say they are amature porn stars i.e. Cam girls ...if they get a lot of calls. Maybe it cuts down on getting the guys that really think it's a dating site. But wouldn't that also,cut down on money. IDK.

LivvyT
07-17-2017, 05:53 PM
So the android app is almost unusable due to glitchiness. I signed in on the site and had 13 pages of guys who never showed up in the app for me to star. Ash, while very nice, wasn't really any help. Soooo, guess I'm just using the website, bummer.

Spemily
07-17-2017, 06:38 PM
So the android app is almost unusable due to glitchiness. I signed in on the site and had 13 pages of guys who never showed up in the app for me to star. Ash, while very nice, wasn't really any help. Soooo, guess I'm just using the website, bummer.

I'm having the same problem. I sent an email to support a few hours ago but have yet to hear anything back. I'm bummed out about it, too. The app made a lot of things a lot easier.

WendiStarr
07-17-2017, 06:55 PM
^ Finally! I thought that I was the only one having that problem. I had the Android app too and the glitches have been negatively impacting me. I have been logging on to the website, just to read and respond to messages.

LadyGodga
07-17-2017, 11:20 PM
I knew there had to be a reason behind my earnings taking a nosedive. Phrendly, get it together.

ep2002
07-17-2017, 11:51 PM
Yeah, my morning was pretty busy, but everyone stopped texting me tonight. Maybe they're all watching the new Game of Thrones episode? haha

Anyone having issues with video chat? I've had issues getting it to work with 3 different guys. It's extremely frustrating... it didn't work at all on Google Chrome. I finally got it to work on my phone, but still took a few tries with each guy. Luckily they were willing to keep trying lol

When a guy tried to video with me the other day, my cam didn't turn on. I wasn't sure if that was b/c I didn't have my split cam up or what, but twice he tried & I couldn't even see him, it was like a dark haze.

Not sure if this is the same issue you were having.

And I still don't understand the sips as they relate to the amount I charge which I thought was per min. :(


I don't get how some women make enough on Phrendly to live on. Props to those who do, but I never make nearly enough. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong either-I look pretty in my gif, starred everybody,and am always super fast about replying to messages. But I always get the guys who only message a couple times and try to give me their real phone number, or try to get my phone number, KIK, or Snapchat. If I make money on here, I consider it a nice surprise, but I'm not expecting much. lol

I make NOTHING on this site. I don't know how you guys make a dime. I'm lucky if I get even one guy texting me once every 3-4 days.

Even with guys on cam sites, at least they come right out & say something sexual. With these guys I can't even get past the "hi, hru?" & they just STOP messaging with me. It's VERY frustrating :(

Any pointers?

I'm not used to starting sex talk with guys, I let them guide the conversation (this is on camming & PSO), so I'm not sure what's going on here.

I thought they think this is a dating site & no girl is going to start talking about sex on a dating site right out the gate (well not most girls anyway LOL)

ep2002
07-17-2017, 11:55 PM
I don't judge people by their looks, but when I was going thru & starring all these guys, I was SHOCKED at how 90% of them look absolutely terrible.

They all have beards or scruff, & look unkept & unclean & very low class (I'm not trying to be judgmental here). A ton of them clearly smoke non stop or drink non stop (I can tell by their skin.) & just overall look like I'd NEVER date them or they have no money at all.

And if I see one more guy stick his tongue out (if I was on a dating site, that would turn me OFF) LOL

When camming the guys look a TON better.

Just saying.

Glamourmilf
07-18-2017, 08:42 AM
I don't judge people by their looks, but when I was going thru & starring all these guys, I was SHOCKED at how 90% of them look absolutely terrible.

They all have beards or scruff, & look unkept & unclean & very low class (I'm not trying to be judgmental here). A ton of them clearly smoke non stop or drink non stop (I can tell by their skin.) & just overall look like I'd NEVER date them or they have no money at all.

And if I see one more guy stick his tongue out (if I was on a dating site, that would turn me OFF) LOL

When camming the guys look a TON better.

Just saying.

Omg! I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to mention it just in case people thought I was being superficial.
Sorry, not sorry, but it's so difficult to go through them and star everyone. They all look like serial killers to me.
At first I thought it's because I've been living in L.A. too long.
That, combined with all the hot dudes I see on cam.
I just don't understand how a guy can let himself go like that.
Oh, well.
At least I understand the main thing. That men want their little wee wees played with.

seashell
07-18-2017, 08:52 AM
Haha... I think the guys' pics are that way because you have to take a gif when you sign up. You can't just upload a flattering picture of yourself. And like Glamourmilf said, they want their wee wees played with right this minute, no time to waste getting a quality pic.

I try not to look at them. Ugh. Ick. Even on cam, at least the video is moving and I don't have just one godawful pic to stare at lol

WendiStarr
07-18-2017, 09:06 AM
I honestly don't care about what the guys on here look like. He could be 8 foot 5 with purple skin, blue hair, and green eyes and smell like ass and cheeto's for all I care. I'm not meeting up with any of them in person so his physical appearance, lifestyle habits, or potential stench doesn't matter to me. I'm lmao at this! :-)

Spemily
07-18-2017, 11:07 AM
I just wanted to say that although I haven't heard back from support, the Android app seems to be working a lot better today. I haven't been wrongly told I was offline except once, I'm able to star people and have it stick, I received notification of the one (sigh...) message I've received all day.

h0ttie
07-18-2017, 11:39 AM
am i the only one who gets like one text a day? lol

i had a bad gif for awhile and i thought it was that, but i made a really really good one for a few weeks now and its the same!

LivvyT
07-18-2017, 12:23 PM
It's working a little better for me as well. The stars are actually sticking. And I noticed a few gif pics were blurred in guys. That's new!

WendiStarr
07-18-2017, 12:46 PM
I have noticed the blurred gif pics too. I wonder what's up with that.

LivvyT
07-18-2017, 12:52 PM
I think the frosted gifs are from feedback on here actually. Awhile back a few ladies mentioned hating seeing the random dick pic gifs. Like Burt I'm pretty immune to them, but I am impressed that Phrendly seems to listen to some of our feedback. Most companies like this simply don't.

phrendly
07-18-2017, 01:11 PM
The frosted GIFs are GIFs that we have not yet reviewed. You'll see them most often on guys who have set their profiles to private. If you want to check out their GIF, just click over to their profile and you'll be given the option to view it.

ChubbyCherub
07-18-2017, 04:51 PM
The frosted GIFs are GIFs that we have not yet reviewed. You'll see them most often on guys who have set their profiles to private. If you want to check out their GIF, just click over to their profile and you'll be given the option to view it.


So, question, a guy who is in the search and available to "star", are they "approved" profiles or do all guys end up there even if not approved? Thanks!

ep2002
07-18-2017, 04:53 PM
Haha... I think the guys' pics are that way because you have to take a gif when you sign up. You can't just upload a flattering picture of yourself. And like Glamourmilf said, they want their wee wees played with right this minute, no time to waste getting a quality pic.

I try not to look at them. Ugh. Ick. Even on cam, at least the video is moving and I don't have just one godawful pic to stare at lol

Yeh I don't think it's that. People don't have to prep themselves to look good if naturally they look fine.

Normally I don't care & I really don't, but when almost ALL of them looked terrible then I started to wonder where they got them from.

I'm sure they can't all be from FB.


48551

Probably one of the most annoying boys I have talked to in quite some time. Lowkey misogynistic degrading crap. He wants to take me to an amusement park or Europe with the money he is spending on me here (So, $30 isn't even gonna get us into the park, much less airfare to Europe.) Please. I can take my damn self. He was giving me advice on what to do with my money, and that I needed to make sure to pay unkie sam. Um. Thanks, but as someone who has been wiping her own ass for over 2 decades, I think I can figure life out by myself.

LOL, thanks for making me laugh. If he thinks $30/day is a lot, then HE needs to seriously learn some math.


am i the only one who gets like one text a day? lol

i had a bad gif for awhile and i thought it was that, but i made a really really good one for a few weeks now and its the same!

Nope, I don't even get one text per day :(

phrendly
07-18-2017, 05:06 PM
So, question, a guy who is in the search and available to "star", are they "approved" profiles or do all guys end up there even if not approved? Thanks!
"Approved" is a strong word. ;) If you see someone while browsing who you can star that just means someone here has reviewed their GIF to make sure it's within our rules. But people do make mistakes so if you see something that shouldn't be there just drop us a note at [email protected] so we can take care of it.

ChubbyCherub
07-18-2017, 05:09 PM
"Approved" is a strong word. ;) If you see someone while browsing who you can star someone has looked at the picture to make sure it's within our rules. But people do make mistakes so if you see something that shouldn't be there just drop us a note at [email protected] so we can take care of it.

Lol. Thanks for the quick response!

LadyGodga
07-18-2017, 05:56 PM
So I got an email that asked my permission to join the featured phrends program thingie. I didn't get it until the 17th, however. The email says I needed to opt in by the 16th. Not sure how that would have been possible given that I only received the email yesterday. I just messaged support about it and I'm hoping that didn't ruin my chances.

LadyGodga
07-18-2017, 06:08 PM
I do have to say, I'm loving the new feel of Phrendly! I took a mental health break since the men on here were draining me and turning me into a mean old prude. Now I feel refreshed and ready to go! And I came back to see the mechanics are a lot more smoother. There is still a lot to be done, but know that your efforts are appreciated, Phrendly! Keep improving and you'll go far.

katydiamond123
07-18-2017, 06:58 PM
It's working a little better for me as well. The stars are actually sticking. And I noticed a few gif pics were blurred in guys. That's new!


When I saw one in a message I got I clicked on it and it said his GIF photo had not been approved yet. So Phrendly is behind on their work!

UPDATE: after a couple of minutes his photo appeared clear

kortneykay
07-18-2017, 08:26 PM
Just lost another regular paying client to this "If I can't meet you, I'm leaving the site." BS again. I really wish they'd be 100% honest with these guys and allow us to be as well. This poor guy has been mislead by the site, even said he asked other ladies who said they're allowed to meet up. HA. No bro, they're lying to you.

Also, when are these guys going to just stick to tinder, POF, and OKC for meet ups? It's PHRENDLY, not MEETNFUCKME. The delusions of grande deur are laughable. Yeah, because an attractive girl is definitely going to not only meet up with you, but is willing have sex with you; FOR FREE.

Not to mention he said he was broke that week, too. So women as a whole are allowing men to inhabit their wombs with no money now? What kind of planet are these men on? Clearly if you were getting laid willingly you wouldn't be on a site trying to pull women into fucking you. FOH.

It's like browsing craigslist when you're bored for laughs. Men looking for nothing but free booty, posting ads. Then they have the nerve to complain about 'no professionals' and 'fakes'. Ummm if you WANT sex, a professional is the answer, bro! Ohhh right, you're ugly and broke, but want access to FREE pussy. Men are soooo upset that we charge them. They don't want gold diggers, but want to be PUSSYDIGGERS.

I say they push hypergamy and cut off low hanging menfruit from access to pussy. I bet once these men understand the only way they're getting laid is by paying or paying over time (marriage) they'll get off their asses and BUILD some resources.

LivvyT
07-18-2017, 09:47 PM
Just lost another regular paying client to this "If I can't meet you, I'm leaving the site." BS again. I really wish they'd be 100% honest with these guys and allow us to be as well. This poor guy has been mislead by the site, even said he asked other ladies who said they're allowed to meet up. HA. No bro, they're lying to you.

Also, when are these guys going to just stick to tinder, POF, and OKC for meet ups? It's PHRENDLY, not MEETNFUCKME. The delusions of grande deur are laughable. Yeah, because an attractive girl is definitely going to not only meet up with you, but is willing have sex with you; FOR FREE.

Not to mention he said he was broke that week, too. So women as a whole are allowing men to inhabit their wombs with no money now? What kind of planet are these men on? Clearly if you were getting laid willingly you wouldn't be on a site trying to pull women into fucking you. FOH.

It's like browsing craigslist when you're bored for laughs. Men looking for nothing but free booty, posting ads. Then they have the nerve to complain about 'no professionals' and 'fakes'. Ummm if you WANT sex, a professional is the answer, bro! Ohhh right, you're ugly and broke, but want access to FREE pussy. Men are soooo upset that we charge them. They don't want gold diggers, but want to be PUSSYDIGGERS.

I say they push hypergamy and cut off low hanging menfruit from access to pussy. I bet once these men understand the only way they're getting laid is by paying or paying over time (marriage) they'll get off their asses and BUILD some resources.

Chances are good he was just trying to guilt you, regulars all have an expiration date. They just have different methods of leaving. Some fade away, some pout, some coerce, some go out in flaming shit storm. He's just a guilter, do not feel bad for him. You personally never promised anything. His unrealistic expectations are his own problem.

LivvyT
07-18-2017, 09:50 PM
I made a bomb ass GIF today. Hair done, make up looking good as fuck. And it got denied. Waaaaah, lol. Guess I will try again tomorrow, sucks though.

Spemily
07-18-2017, 10:00 PM
Anyone noticed the guy whose description says "initiative gets a rose"? I wish we could get one free message on Phrendly, like on TTM, so that I could tell these guys what asshats they are and school them in what Phrendly is about.

Spemily
07-18-2017, 10:10 PM
Oh, he knows EXACTLY what it's about. He thinks he's fooling someone into messaging him. Maybe there's a girl who's naive and/or desperate enough for that, but best believe, he ain't sending no one a damn thing haha.

Yeah, I know what he's angling for. What I wish I could tell him is how deluded he is into thinking anyone will fall for that. A lifetime of free messages in exchange for a rose that will never materialize. Sweet.

Jupiter77
07-18-2017, 10:25 PM
Some guy video chatted me while I was eating waffles and hung up after 5 mins because I told him he couldnt have none.

Spemily
07-18-2017, 10:31 PM
yeah.... I'm guessing your promo balance is gone? I'd probably message him and then immediately block him hahahahaha.

Actually, I've still got it. After payout, maybe I'll send him an initiative-laden dick pic.

katydiamond123
07-19-2017, 03:40 AM
I don't get how some women make enough on Phrendly to live on. Props to those who do, but I never make nearly enough. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong either-I look pretty in my gif, starred everybody,and am always super fast about replying to messages. But I always get the guys who only message a couple times and try to give me their real phone number, or try to get my phone number, KIK, or Snapchat. If I make money on here, I consider it a nice surprise, but I'm not expecting much. lol


I assume it's mostly people who are very young, like 18-24, who live with their parents or are one of the first 2 pages. Or cam a lot & sell photos or videos and are very good talkers or could be good used car salesmen too!! Videos probably pay more - I can't see making a living on here with just texting, you'd have to be texting 24 -7. I was on a 4 hour text one night and made only $50. I was surprised it was so little. Only so many sips in an hour when it's one sided. Any extra money you make just texting while you are sitting at home without your makeup on yet is great anyway. I like the site for that reason. Makeup, webcams, lights, equipment, hair, nails and lingerie cost money so camming you earn more, but you also spend more.