View Full Version : Phrendly.com, a new GFE option to consider
jamma
02-12-2017, 01:53 PM
I appreciate the info. But you basically just called the nice girl a scammer. This should have been PM'd to her privately. Please use more discretion in the future.
Jamma--I appreciate how much info you give us. I appreciate how prompt you are with your info and help.
BUT--this is harsh and singles out a girl who was doing nothing wrong and was merely asking a simple question.
Just my thoughts. LOVE TO The GIRL who asked about her account being closed. LOVE-HUGS-Kisses to you.
I respectfully disagree. My response was not about any single individual, but described in general systems we have in place and specifically allowed for the notion of false positives in an admission that no system is perfect.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-12-2017, 05:23 PM
Sniff Sniff smells like a Niteflirt response to me. Arbitrary and left up to interpretation. Jamma please explain to this woman why she was released from your platform. You even said that sometimes things are a misfire or false positive? Please be supportive and help her understand why.
xStitchesx
02-12-2017, 07:29 PM
Thanks to everyone who has made a comment about this wanting to know why. When I asked support about my account the response was basically that they are exercising their right to terminate my account without reason or notice. The email was from a member of their "policy and abuse" team.
I have a suspicion as to why my account was deleted, something similar happened with AW when I applied to cam there. I'm a US citizen living abroad. But I do pay taxes, have bank accounts, and phone numbers in both countries. I'm not a citizen of the country I live in although my address is here. So my guess is that they think I'm a scammer since my address and internet show I'm in Europe although I am a legit US citizen. I have no problems with NF, for example. (Fun fact: if you have T Mobile, you can keep your US number overseas while traveling and international texting was super cheap! Idk if they still have that plan though. I used it a lot when I first moved out here.)
At least AW had the balls to tell me straight up they thought I was a scammer and only hit me with a temporary ban.
drearea
02-12-2017, 07:59 PM
Thanks to everyone who has made a comment about this wanting to know why. When I asked support about my account the response was basically that they are exercising their right to terminate my account without reason or notice. The email was from a member of their "policy and abuse" team.
I have a suspicion as to why my account was deleted, something similar happened with AW when I applied to cam there. I'm a US citizen living abroad. But I do pay taxes, have bank accounts, and phone numbers in both countries. I'm not a citizen of the country I live in although my address is here. So my guess is that they think I'm a scammer since my address and internet show I'm in Europe although I am a legit US citizen. I have no problems with NF, for example. (Fun fact: if you have T Mobile, you can keep your US number overseas while traveling and international texting was super cheap! Idk if they still have that plan though. I used it a lot when I first moved out here.)
At least AW had the balls to tell me straight up they thought I was a scammer and only hit me with a temporary ban.
Wow, I think my phrends might be staying lonely. I think it's repulsive that in response to the question "why was Stitches removed" the answer sounded a lot like "criminals exist, sorry to inform you naive women". I would rather miss out on some money than have it be heavily implied that I am a criminal if this site chooses to not seek further information from me in the future in favor of removal.
I think the representative here should really start looking at the Payoneer threads and seeing how those personal questions are handed by reps.
You had NO IDEA why this model was removed from your site, so you should have asked for more information before responding. Period.
DancesWithSloths
02-13-2017, 04:26 PM
I'm going to make a guess that these guys are running a risk assessment algorithm that flags a probability that an account is a scammer on the basis of a collection of some factors - similar to how your credit score is calculated. Because it's a third-party algorithm they bought from somebody else, they may not know what factors go into each individual assessment and how the final score is produced. So when a real person says, "Hey, why did you block me?", the best they can do is, "uh... the magic box said so?"
And for whatever reason they've decided not to bother with an internal process of reviewing flagged accounts to fish out false positives - presumably because it's expensive, or they don't believe it'll make a difference to their bottom line, or they're acting in bad faith, or they don't have the staff, or they're actually 3 kids in a trenchcoat rather than a company, or who knows.
But it would be embarrassing to say, "Actually, we don't know why you specifically got flagged, but individual naked girls on the internet don't actually matter enough to work stuff out", so instead they say "actually, we don't have to work with you, and we don't have to tell you why."
How am I doing, Jamma? Close enough?
Jupiter77
02-13-2017, 05:20 PM
Off topic but please don't think that I don't care. I just wanted to share to anybody that is still using Phrendly that Portlands craigslist has been by far the best city that lets your ads stay up for a while.I felt weird about promoting in my own state but it paid off. I got 8 hours yesterday of it.
I hope that Phrendly can be a happy place again soon for all of us.
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jamma
02-13-2017, 06:10 PM
I see where my response could have seemed like I was singling someone out. I apologize for that. It was certainly not my intention. We are in fact working privately with this individual to investigate her account further. We know exactly why any profile is flagged; we do not disclose these reasons for security concerns, a point I apparently did not make too well earlier. And finally, we are not three kids in a trench coat. Rather, we are 26 lizard people in a giant giraffe costume. ;)
Lesson learned. I hope to return to winning your trust with candid and timely responses.
DonaDiabla
02-13-2017, 06:38 PM
Can we advertise using Millionaire Match or other sugar websites? Would that be okay? :)
Mal707
02-13-2017, 07:09 PM
I got news I'm excited about for anyone who's also having issues with the Craigslist phone verification bullshit. I found a company that offers alternative numbers that actually work for it. The downside is that it's not free, but it's also not expensive. I got a number for $2 and the voicemail with the verification code cost .05 cents I think. That's more than worth it to me considering how much extra money I can get from Phrendly by referring hornballs from Craigslist.
Here's a link to the company I'm using:
http://linespan.com/index
Jupiter77
02-13-2017, 07:17 PM
I got news I'm excited about for anyone who's also having issues with the Craigslist phone verification bullshit. I found a company that offers alternative numbers that actually work for it. The downside is that it's not free, but it's also not expensive. I got a number for $2 and the voicemail with the verification code cost .05 cents I think. That's more than worth it to me considering how much extra money I can get from Phrendly by referring hornballs from Craigslist.
Here's a link to the company I'm using:
http://linespan.com/index
I use the same cell phone number over and over and it never catches me
JGB2009
02-13-2017, 09:15 PM
Its awesome that you guys are having success with Ads. I myself suck at it!!! On Backpage my ads are ghosted and CL I don't even think my last ad even showed up. Maybe I will figure something out.
Nikki_Fox
02-13-2017, 10:36 PM
only have a quick minute
jsbld posting his snapchat on his profile -yea I know support but sorry - got a million things going on right now and didnt get a minute to log into that email - a report this user button would be nice :)
thanks for responding jamma to the closed accounts issue - imagine you showed up expecting to jump into the giraffe costume and they wont let you in and wont tell you why?? never ever tell you why - it is very dehumanizing - most ladies on this site are aware of the challenges companies like yours face in preventing fraud - we want you to keep scammers out - chargebacks are brutal - no one wants to eat those - losing a processor shuts money off for everyone - we get it I promise - I am sure the great lizard minds can find a solution to scrub accounts that are flagged or at least give some explanation - The ladies here are pretty genuine in trying to make this site go - you have 11 pages in this thread of feedback and ladies who are pimping out an unpaid affiliate link that doesnt even go back to her own profile - and they are not receiving a referral fee that I am aware of (correct me if I am wrong) - treat them the way you want to be treated and they will continue to have your back - hopefully the affiliate link will turn to a paid link soon - okay my Ambien is kicking in - gotta go before I totally make no sense - one last thing - add the ability to search new sign ups
Bridgetxo
02-13-2017, 11:54 PM
It was a bit slow for me the last few days. However I posted a bunch of CL ads tonight and I got quite a few hits which was nice! It was hard for me to keep up at one point. I will try changing up my GIF and see if I get a bit more traffic that way.
Jupiter77
02-14-2017, 10:12 AM
Send all your Phrends a nice sexy picture wishing them the happy valentines day. Even after they run out of drinks they can still receive messages and it might be an incentive for them to refill :)
jamma
02-14-2017, 04:20 PM
only have a quick minute
jsbld posting his snapchat on his profile -yea I know support but sorry - got a million things going on right now and didnt get a minute to log into that email - a report this user button would be nice :)
Thanks. Handed over to ToS team. Report this user is a good suggestion, we have that in the iOS app (which is long over due, but can be used in a private beta by those who ask
[email protected]).
The ladies here are pretty genuine in trying to make this site go - you have 11 pages in this thread of feedback and ladies who are pimping out an unpaid affiliate link that doesnt even go back to her own profile - and they are not receiving a referral fee that I am aware of (correct me if I am wrong) - treat them the way you want to be treated and they will continue to have your back - hopefully the affiliate link will turn to a paid link soon
I can't tell you how much we all appreciate this! And yes, the links will turn into paid links and credits will be paid retro-actively. We're working on the lack of direct links issue; it's glaring and we'll fix it.
add the ability to search new sign ups
We'll add it to the list!
KLttyKat
02-15-2017, 07:41 PM
Jamma--
I **KNOW** you said it will be retroactive on the link--how SURE is this?
I have pimped out my link to over 3 dozen ladies. Coached them thru making $$$$ on phrendly. I don't normally do affiliate links UNLESS I believe 100% in the site.
also, i see once it goes NON BETA--it will be 35 cents a text. what other reductions in our take will be made in non-beta version.
it sounds easy but 38 cents a text IS WORK!
Nikki_Fox
02-15-2017, 07:57 PM
Agree - .03 doesnt seem like a lot but it adds up - not many clients on there for me at the moment but some are pretty needyish types - need to get on pimping out the link on CL - how / where do you see a pending use of your link ?
KLttyKat
02-15-2017, 09:02 PM
ANOTHER TIP for more traffic on the site:
I just did a "retake" on the quiz. This isn't real life and it is like a FB quiz so who cares, right?
i went from 25 pages of matches to 47. OMG OM STARS. Now i need to go and star hundreds more guys?
Started to do it, and with in two minutes had 3 guys texting me ;)
jamma
02-15-2017, 10:16 PM
Jamma--
I **KNOW** you said it will be retroactive on the link--how SURE is this?
I have pimped out my link to over 3 dozen ladies. Coached them thru making $$$$ on phrendly. I don't normally do affiliate links UNLESS I believe 100% in the site.
also, i see once it goes NON BETA--it will be 35 cents a text. what other reductions in our take will be made in non-beta version.
it sounds easy but 38 cents a text IS WORK!
Thanks for sharing your link! It is 100% sure the credits will be retroactive. As for pricing, we're determined to offer the best percentages in the industry. Even when $0.35, this is 40% higher than another popular texting service, which only pays 25 cents. Still, I agree it requires work (what doesn't?). We do our best to make it convenient, and to supplement texts with up-sell messages to your customers that encourage them to call or video chat you, including notifications when you make yourself available for a call. The live interactions are where you can earn in bigger chunks, and there too we expect our percentages to lead the field. Gifts are integrated into web-chat (you keep 90%-- don't know of any others doing this) and we're working on the ability for guys to send gifts via SMS.
Hope this helps! And again, thanks for your interest and energy. Early adopters like you and the ladies on this thread are what will ensure Phrendly will be a viable income option for years to come.
Jupiter77
02-16-2017, 12:07 PM
So I have a question.
When I choose "birds of a feather"
the same guys and the order their in stays exactly the same when you choose "opposites attract"
So how does that work
Mal707
02-16-2017, 12:29 PM
I'm looking forward to be able to sort them from newest to oldest members. I try to star everyone but it takes time to sort through 90 pages of guys to find those brand new signups I haven't starred yet
Jupiter77
02-16-2017, 11:07 PM
Jamma,
Why do my rates for calling and video calling keep defaulting back to 10 and 12..
Its the 3rd time its happened I've usually caught before but I finished a video call tonight to realize I did not make what I had set my rates to be.
xStitchesx
02-17-2017, 03:24 AM
Just wanted to pop in and say that I got my account back.
jamma
02-17-2017, 01:05 PM
So I have a question.
When I choose "birds of a feather"
the same guys and the order their in stays exactly the same when you choose "opposites attract"
So how does that work
The similarities / differences are based on your personality quiz. So, a) make sure you're logged in and b) if your quiz is all middle values, I think the differences won't be noticeable.
jamma
02-17-2017, 01:06 PM
Jamma,
Why do my rates for calling and video calling keep defaulting back to 10 and 12..
Its the 3rd time its happened I've usually caught before but I finished a video call tonight to realize I did not make what I had set my rates to be.
Hmm, once you change them, the changes should persist. We'll investigate.
jamma
02-17-2017, 01:10 PM
I'm looking forward to be able to sort them from newest to oldest members. I try to star everyone but it takes time to sort through 90 pages of guys to find those brand new signups I haven't starred yet
FYI, "Newest first" sort is being planned.
KLttyKat
02-17-2017, 10:11 PM
FYI, "Newest first" sort is being planned.
thank GOD bc i hate starring people that may not have any money on the site and may not be active. BUT starring 47 pages did bring some more hits
KLttyKat
02-17-2017, 10:19 PM
The similarities / differences are based on your personality quiz. So, a) make sure you're logged in and b) if your quiz is all middle values, I think the differences won't be noticeable.
uMMM did this. And I gave NOPE NOT ME AT ALL/Nailed it. AND SAME MATCHES.
ABSOULTELY same matches. Jupiter is right on this one. tried it 3 times.
Nikki_Fox
02-18-2017, 01:36 AM
uMMM did this. And I gave NOPE NOT ME AT ALL/Nailed it. AND SAME MATCHES.
ABSOULTELY same matches. Jupiter is right on this one. tried it 3 times.
same here
Jupiter77
02-18-2017, 03:11 PM
Thank god I decided to check my rates again before a call last night because they were changed back to default again. Pleeaasse figure this out.
Nikki_Fox
02-19-2017, 08:44 AM
yea - this site has not been over the top for me but..... I have put very little effort to no into it so..... and my normal hustle is not really working the way I would like so I need to tweak it in some way -
lotus_latte
02-19-2017, 09:21 AM
how do you girls get hits from POF? i have an account on it but nothing. should i do something specific?
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 09:40 AM
I havent tried POF. but I will tell you that I don't do nothing lol.
I made $338 yesterday. But I work from the time I wake up till I go to bed. I am constantly finding new people whether its craigslist, backpage, ashley madison, or meetme. I even got some luck with Sugar Daddy Meet.
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 09:43 AM
I joined this forum because I'm new to all of this and having a tough time honing my hustle, I guess. I've heard about girls making hundreds each night "just doing nothing" but I'm struggling over here to like break 50 most nights. Like, damn, my mom says I'm pretty what gives. I don't know. Kinda bummed and looking for advice whomp whomp. :P
Its hard love, I will give you a break down of how it works for me. I usually make 2x more money when im on my laptop vs my phone.
I have about 10 emails, and different social media accounts that I use to hustle.
If you have any specific questions on how I promote, PM me :)
ALSOOO
If you have Twitter, I took a sexy pic of my booty with a link to phrendly.
and I pinned that to the top.
I get some hits off there too :p
Mal707
02-19-2017, 01:23 PM
Ugh, I've been struggling too, Neptune. Craigslist is dying down for me. Not sure what's going on or if my ads are even getting posted. But I need new ways to promote lol My POF was shut down but I'm still using OkCupid and have gotten a few hits off that. i think I'll try to make a new POF soon. I'm curious as to how you use some of the other dating apps like MeetMe tho without getting in trouble so I'll probably PM you too at some point, Jupiter, if you don't mind lol Also, I'm going to try JuicyAds tomorrow. Made a $60 deposit to them last night, and I'll post on here if that works to let you guys know.
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 01:41 PM
Thats the thing, I ALWAYS get my accounts deleted but I am just right back at it. I'm relentless. I'll go through 4 meetmes in one day
Mal707
02-19-2017, 02:30 PM
Whoa that's awesome, Jupiter lol I won't be so afraid to join more dating apps and blast the message now haha
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 02:37 PM
Haha so im a little hoe so I usually send a picture of my titties and offer to send nudes if they come to phrendly hahaha
Like other girls ask for gifts for nudes, butt I have a stockpile of those MF's on my phone so I hand them out like candy
and I've had a ton of people that live close to me and I use it to my advantage. (never within a couples hours from me) and I shit you not I have like 4 guys that think we are gonna get married hahaha
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 02:53 PM
OKAY I LIVE IN OREGON lol. That may be my fault because I had drained portlands craigslist lol
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 02:54 PM
I live down in Klamath, and I have a guy from coos bay, depoe bay and 2 in portland that think we are like soulmates lol
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 03:35 PM
Nope and even if they did, my husband is ALWAYS with me no matter what wherever I go.
So I really wish a motherfucker would try to come up to me :p
Mal707
02-19-2017, 04:23 PM
As for the question of what to say on POF...Before POF caught me and closed my acct, I had a sexy POF profile going with arousing pics, but not nudes. Then when the hornballs messaged me, I would send out a generic message advertisement for Phrendly and tell them to look me up once they join cuz I'll send "free" nudes and masturbation vid clips haha I add that the first $10 is free, so they, in essence, would get my nudes "free". I also don't have a problem with not asking for bigger gifts for nudes. Just glad to get the texting money
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 04:26 PM
As for the question of what to say on POF...Before POF caught me and closed my acct, I had a sexy POF profile going with arousing pics, but not nudes. Then when the hornballs messaged me, I would send out a generic message advertisement for Phrendly and tell them to look me up once they join cuz I'll send "free" nudes and masturbation vid clips haha I add that the first $10 is free, so they, in essence, would get my nudes "free". I also don't have a problem with not asking for bigger gifts for nudes. Just glad to get the texting money
Right? Like shit.
Are you able to send vid clips on Phrendly??
Mal707
02-19-2017, 04:38 PM
I send vid clips but the guys tell me they don't work sometimes. They do work for a lot of guys tho, so I always try. Not sure why they don't work sometimes
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 04:39 PM
From your phone or the website?
Mal707
02-19-2017, 04:40 PM
Phone. I can't figure out how to do it from the website
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 04:41 PM
Hmm Im gonna try it. Thank you!
Mal707
02-19-2017, 04:44 PM
Yep. Good luck!
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 07:35 PM
Right? Jesus. Im sorry dear.
Jupiter77
02-19-2017, 07:47 PM
Oh yeah for sure. When I cammed on MFC I always got teased lol.