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Discodolli
06-08-2018, 08:04 PM
How are you girls getting so many fetish type dudes? I actually had fetish friendly in my profile along with other slutty type stuff that was kinda vague, but nothing. Most of my regs have gone .

I have "kink friendly" in my profile and have a bit of an alternative look so get a good amount of fetish guys. My problem is that eventually, all my regulars started asking about meeting/talking outside the app, and then started fading away after I stood my ground. I don't get why guys hope against hope that they'll be actually meeting people off à site which literally markets itself as a place you don't meet people off of?

trustfundkiller
06-08-2018, 09:28 PM
I have "kink friendly" in my profile and have a bit of an alternative look so get a good amount of fetish guys. My problem is that eventually, all my regulars started asking about meeting/talking outside the app, and then started fading away after I stood my ground. I don't get why guys hope against hope that they'll be actually meeting people off à site which literally markets itself as a place you don't meet people off of?
Every regular has a lifespan. It's just like the strip club. When they realize there is no real chance of dating you or sleeping with you, the well dries up. Will they pop back into your life from time to time? Some of them will, some of them won't. It's not a relationship that lasts forever.

bossypants
06-09-2018, 05:20 PM
Been following this thread for a while but never posted. Made a phrendly account around the end of May and have made about $100 so far. I did the opt in for the Facebook ads. Have any of you seen any growth from that? My line has been dead lately. My fault I guess since I was a bit naive in the starting and turned down/ sabotaged some video chats.

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-11-2018, 04:11 PM
I hate when a guy who has blocked me (for either not sending nudes for free, or not going off site, or, my favorite: finding out that he couldn't pay me to meet up for sex) comes back with his tail tucked between his legs to patch things up and I can't even respond back. There should be something that reminds them that blocked friends cannot reply, please contact support to undo that dumb thing you did (blocking me).

Discodolli
06-11-2018, 04:21 PM
I hate when a guy who has blocked me (for either not sending nudes for free, or not going off site, or, my favorite: finding out that he couldn't pay me to meet up for sex) comes back with his tail tucked between his legs to patch things up and I can't even respond back. There should be something that reminds them that blocked friends cannot reply, please contact support to undo that dumb thing you did (blocking me).

How can you tell if you've been blocked?

alleykat217
06-11-2018, 04:29 PM
How can you tell if you've been blocked?

When you try to text them and the message comes up "Message not sent. This phrend is no longer available. Browse other profiles."

trustfundkiller
06-11-2018, 07:15 PM
Some of these guys on Phrendly are aging horribly. How are you 23-yrs-old with deep set wrinkles and a receding hairline?

xxxGothBarbie
06-11-2018, 09:17 PM
Some of these guys on Phrendly are aging horribly. How are you 23-yrs-old with deep set wrinkles and a receding hairline?

LMFAO Exactly!

WendiStarr
06-12-2018, 09:54 AM
^ I've noticed that too but I don't really care what they look like, as long as they're spending. It's kind of amusing when guys will ask for nudes and when you tell them they have to buy you a gift first, some of them will argue by text on Phrendly back and forth about it, racking up some earnings for you.

trustfundkiller
06-12-2018, 02:02 PM
Now this is an interesting development that has come to fruition. We're finally able to pay our way to the first page. 100% will be doing this, although I'm not sure what page I'm on. I've been doing well thanks to my regulars and haven't felt a need to check.

jamma
06-12-2018, 03:29 PM
Now this is an interesting development that has come to fruition. We're finally able to pay our way to the first page. 100% will be doing this, although I'm not sure what page I'm on. I've been doing well thanks to my regulars and haven't felt a need to check.

Yup! You ladies asked for it, and we (finally) built it. Documentation is here:
https://support.phrendly.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003071112-Promoted-Profiles

kortneykay
06-12-2018, 06:15 PM
^^^^^^^^ This :D Hope to see a return!

katydiamond123
06-12-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: The new system

Do you have to pay for the clicks with your credit/debit card or can you pay with earnings?

Also I don't see how it benefits people over 30 if it goes by age range. How would they be able to get on Page 1? I don't really understand this system but I didn't think I would.

Also if you have mostly regulars it isn't beneficial because if someone has clicked on you in the last 30 days it doesn't count. I think people should be rewarded for getting clients to come back.

Questions if anyone knows or I might write support:

Also if you don't opt in at all are you going to be blocked from new clients being able to click on you at all? Or is this just determining what page you are put on? And do the younger age groups still get put on pages BEFORE the older women? (since it says your age group)

And is Phrendly still going to place some people whereever they want to even if they do or don't opt in to the program.

Is your score lower if you don't videochat and is the other algorithm still being used in addition to this?

Thanks

kortneykay
06-12-2018, 07:03 PM
^^^You can def use your balance.

WendiStarr
06-12-2018, 07:07 PM
^ Wait, it doesn't work for people over 30?! Then I'm screwed, lol. I may look 20 but apparently I'm old. :-P

kortneykay
06-12-2018, 07:16 PM
LIE about your age, ladies. Fuck it. Do what you have to do to win.

trustfundkiller
06-12-2018, 07:22 PM
So basically you get charged every time you receive a "qualified click" meaning that a phrend with a valid card on file clicks on your profile, or stars your profile and views it within 24 hours, and you get charged regardless of whether or not they start a conversation with you. Am I understanding this correctly?

I'm on the fence but will mostly likely participate in the future when/if things slow down and I feel I could use the help. But, right now it looks like the top bid is $13. I would not want to be charged $13 every time a verified phrend stars me and creeps on my profile the next day, or clicks my profile if they're not going to start a conversation. Yes, you can set your budget, but in any case that's money lost if you're being charged for views rather than engagement.

AsheKn
06-12-2018, 07:34 PM
So basically you get charged every time you receive a "qualified click" meaning that a phrend with a valid card on file clicks on your profile, or stars your profile and views it within 24 hours, and you get charged regardless of whether or not they start a conversation with you. Am I understanding this correctly?


I'm a little confused as well and had the same question. Are you paying per 'qualified' click you get from the ranking page, even if the person doesn't talk to you? Just wondering how the process is supposed to pay itself off. Also it seems like peoples bids are always increasing so this is something you have to monitor kind of consistently throughout the day and adjust?

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-12-2018, 08:22 PM
LIE about your age, ladies. Fuck it. Do what you have to do to win.

If only we could go back and change it. We'd have a bunch of 18-20 year olds lol. I wish I had put my birth year as 1998 haha, or that age was removed as a factor all together. It's just a number and also, it's extra chat $$ for guys to ask me how old I am... which they do anyway but that furthers my point, that no one even pays attention to the age, so why have it? What if someone who was only into younger girls saw a hot 45 year old and changed his mind, but would have never set his slider that high on his own...

I'm getting way too into seeing my stats. Every time I get a click I"m like mESSAGE ME FOOL *shakes fists at the sky*

Also, are the statistics extremely slow to update? My conversion rate should be much higher just on today alone, but it's at uh, a very astounding 0. Lol. I've been responding with the quickness and statistically it looks like I've been ignoring people all day.

JGB2009
06-12-2018, 08:29 PM
Can you switch ur age on ur profile?

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-12-2018, 08:31 PM
Can you switch ur age on ur profile?

I know that *Name Removed*, 24 did. She used to be *Name Removed*, 27. Not trying to call a girl out just saying it can be done.

kortneykay
06-12-2018, 08:47 PM
If anyone here also works on NF, it's the same bidding system. Yes, it sucks that they can click your profile, never message you, and you're still charged. It is what it is. However, it usually, (and I say this because I've been on NF since 2009) generates SOMETHING.

Also, you most likely will make it back the same day if not within the same week. Advertising isn't free for anyone, and at least you get the exposure you wouldn't have before. Gotta pay to play.

katydiamond123
06-12-2018, 10:14 PM
Gotta pay to play.[/QUOTE]


That is supposed to be for the men!! LOL

If the money goes for advertising I'd be really happy because that will benefit all of us. Either way it will be good for the people who want to work and not the ones who get a $50 phone call and are on page 1000 because they hardly ever are available!

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 07:12 AM
I hate my GIF with every ounce of my being so going to retake that and then place a bid. I'm thinking the exposure would offset the advertising costs.

Edit: And wouldn't it be tax deductible?

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 07:28 AM
Gotta pay to play.

At the end of the day, it's a business so they want to maximize their profit off the bidding system and it's understandable. I'm just going to think of it the same way as a house fee and I worked in clubs where I've paid over $100 a day just for the opportunity of working. I'm happy that they've finally done something to create an even playing field for everyone. If you're serious about your placement, you'll pay for it.

jamma
06-13-2018, 07:34 AM
^ Wait, it doesn't work for people over 30?! Then I'm screwed, lol. I may look 20 but apparently I'm old. :-P

LOL, it works for all ages, of course!

I was trying to figure out where this notion even came from. Perhaps it's this: When you place your bid, we show your position relative to other phrends that are in your age group, which is fairly broad (and based on some data mining). This is particularly handy for older phrends so that they don't have to compete for placement against much younger women, who might not even be of interest to their target market. If you want to see your placement regardless of age range, you can check the box labeled "View other users outside my age range group". You may end up bidding more than you need to if you do this, though.

jamma
06-13-2018, 07:47 AM
I'm a little confused as well and had the same question. Are you paying per 'qualified' click you get from the ranking page, even if the person doesn't talk to you? Just wondering how the process is supposed to pay itself off. Also it seems like peoples bids are always increasing so this is something you have to monitor kind of consistently throughout the day and adjust?

Yes, this is click based, just like advertising on Google or Facebook/Instagram. However, unlike them, here you are only charged for clicks by people who are already on the site that you are on AND have a credit card and can pay for interacting with you! Further, you don't have to re-pay for someone you've recently interacted with or someone you brought here via a TAF link, plus you're not charged for multiple clicks from the same person.

As a result, you are only charged for about one out of every 10 clicks your profile gets. The rest is free exposure, the bulk of it from guys who have promotional dollars (i.e. money we gave them) to spend on you. It really is a bargain (if only we could get a similar deal from Google or FB!), but you don't have to take our word for it: We're very open about the program's value and you can check out your ROI any time. If it's not working for you (give it a couple of days), just lower your bid or stop bidding altogether.

jamma
06-13-2018, 07:50 AM
[snip] But, right now it looks like the top bid is $13. I would not want to be charged $13 every time a verified phrend stars me and creeps on my profile the next day, or clicks my profile if they're not going to start a conversation. Yes, you can set your budget, but in any case that's money lost if you're being charged for views rather than engagement.

It might not be worth bidding for the very top spot. I'll bet there's a spot within the top 20-40 that's just a fraction of that cost to you that will work almost as well. Try one of those out first!

alleykat217
06-13-2018, 09:58 AM
I get the gist of this but what I can't grasp is a couple of things. How do you figure out what to bid? Also, how is it determined how much you will actually pay for a click? I've read the information a dozen times and still don't understand.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 10:09 AM
I have another question. You only get charged if someone clicks on your profile through the homepage and then messages you through that link, right? If you star them through the starring feature and then they message you, it wouldn't count?

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-13-2018, 11:22 AM
Edit: And wouldn't it be tax deductible?

Since it comes directly out of our earnings, I am hoping that we only have to pay taxes on the amount we get through direct deposit/checks.

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-13-2018, 11:55 AM
Colby A is underage watch out. I reported him.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 12:35 PM
Ok, I guess we'll see what happens and I'll update with my thoughts once I've seen results. Overall I think this is a great opportunity and I'm very excited for it!

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 03:04 PM
It might not be worth bidding for the very top spot. I'll bet there's a spot within the top 20-40 that's just a fraction of that cost to you that will work almost as well. Try one of those out first!
That's very true. My eyes naturally gravitate towards the middle of the page, so if others tend to do the same the top spot isn't necessarily the best.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 05:38 PM
Has anyone noticed a lag with the statistics? I've had a few guys recently who I am 99% sure were q-clicks, yet my stats haven't updated.
I'm wondering about this too. Got charged for a click and had a message from someone who looks like they would be a "qualified" member a few minutes later. Can't be sure though, because it doesn't say that I've generated any revenue off of him.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 05:40 PM
Every time I get charged for a click and I don't get a message, I honestly hate men even more than I did before :) didn't think that was possible.

JaneBurgess
06-13-2018, 06:48 PM
The problem is half these guys dont understand that they have to pay for pics and video. The same company that owns NiteFlirt owns Phrendy so Im not surprised to see bidding on Phrendly but they dont have the traffic that NF has. Im not sure if bidding is worth it here yet

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-13-2018, 07:15 PM
I'm wondering about this too. Got charged for a click and had a message from someone who looks like they would be a "qualified" member a few minutes later. Can't be sure though, because it doesn't say that I've generated any revenue off of him.


The problem is half these guys dont understand that they have to pay for pics and video. The same company that owns NiteFlirt owns Phrendy so Im not surprised to see bidding on Phrendly but they dont have the traffic that NF has. Im not sure if bidding is worth it here yet

I might sound full of myself here but, I feel like I'm doing much better than Score Breakdown seems to think. :P So far, I've had several drinks purchased by people who are new to me but aren't new on the site so I'm thinking, how did they message me without a q-click? Magic? I mean I appreciate that but... I don't really think that's how it happened haha. There are probably a few bugs to work out, as with all newly implemented systems.

Concerning traffic, I have to agree. Phrendly is very new still, and even though I'm paying for the rank I used to have, I'm not seeing an increase in traffic, yet. But, it's only been a day.

Discodolli
06-13-2018, 07:16 PM
I'd like to see them implement a higher base charge for pics vs text messages. That way, it's a site wide standard, and we can ask for gifts on top of that.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 08:02 PM
I might sound full of myself here but, I feel like I'm doing much better than Score Breakdown seems to think. :P So far, I've had several drinks purchased by people who are new to me but aren't new on the site so I'm thinking, how did they message me without a q-click? Magic? I mean I appreciate that but... I don't really think that's how it happened haha. There are probably a few bugs to work out, as with all newly implemented systems.

Concerning traffic, I have to agree. Phrendly is very new still, and even though I'm paying for the rank I used to have, I'm not seeing an increase in traffic, yet. But, it's only been a day.
Maybe via starring or the search feature, but I don't think all q-clicks are showing up. Because I'll notice a charge and then a few minutes later a new-to-me-not-new-to-Phrendly guy will message me, but my revenue doesn't update. Also, around 7PM they started tracking tonight's data as tomorrow, June 14's, data. I'm having a good day on Phrendly but that's mostly due to my regulars. I haven't noticed a dramatic change. I'm going to try out the promo system for a month. Tonight will be interesting when all the 3AM creepers come out of the woodworks. I tend to get the most new guys in the middle of the night.

AsheKn
06-13-2018, 09:11 PM
I'm doing a trial period on it as well. I can see where it has its perks for sure, but most of my traffic today and yesterday has not been from the q-clicks.

Side note, is anyone experiencing issues with vid chat? I had someone try to connect no less than 10 or 12 times tonight because our chat kept disconnecting anywhere between 1-7 mins in. This hasnt happened to me before so I don't think its on my end. I managed to accumulate sips in this manner but definitely lost out on what could have been over an hour of cam rate.

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 09:11 PM
This guy spent over $100 on me throughout the day and randomly blocked me. Wtf? I am so confused ...weirdo. Guess blocking is the only way he can resist me }:D

trustfundkiller
06-13-2018, 09:21 PM
No issues with video chat over here.

Is there anyone who can say that they actually did *better* today because of q clicks? It has only been a day, so hopefully the long term results will be better. I am not on NF so I can't compare.

katydiamond123
06-13-2018, 11:45 PM
Since it comes directly out of our earnings, I am hoping that we only have to pay taxes on the amount we get through direct deposit/checks.

You always only pay taxes on the money you RECEIVE. I worked in accounting and did my own books for my business too for a few years.

You can choose to show the money deducted and claim the rest but I am just going to claim the rest. WHy bother with the extra work. Just keep a copy of it in case they ever audit and want to see it.

Burt Macklin, FBI
06-14-2018, 12:20 AM
You always only pay taxes on the money you RECEIVE. I worked in accounting and did my own books for my business too for a few years.

You can choose to show the money deducted and claim the rest but I am just going to claim the rest. WHy bother with the extra work. Just keep a copy of it in case they ever audit and want to see it.

Sounds good to me! Just wasn't sure if I was required to log it all because I earned it technically. I guess if that were the case, then we'd have to put down Phrendly's cut of our chats/calls/gifts, too.

moneyeyes
06-14-2018, 11:41 AM
The bidding level for page 1 is crazy? There are really that many who are happy to pay $25-$75/click? The top spot bid was $183.06?? What's that person's max for the day, is it really worth paying that much if you don't get at least 5 qualified clicks or rather stay in that spot long enough for free-sippers to contact you? Is their budget $1000/day? They're earning THAT much that they can blow nearly 200 bucks per-not-guaranteed-conversation-click? Really? Even at the best of times of guys with free sips all inundating you while you've got the exposure I just don't see how this makes sense.

Ok so I refreshed the page and I guess they couldn't sustain that for long, but even with bids being in the $20-$50/click region... and I see quite a few same people on page 1, so they're not switching off their campaigns... even if you earn 10K+/month by staying on page 1, I can't wrap my head around that there'd be people who'd give up idk...6K/month for that privilege? (assuming their campaign budget is $200/day for a month).

I'm wondering if the bids we see in the bid list on "my campaign" page are the actual bids placed by those users listed? Or is the value listed based on their activity rank score and a bid value determined for them for the purposes of someone else wanting to knock them off their spot without the person whose listed value we see is even necessarily participating in bidding?

moneyeyes
06-14-2018, 11:51 AM
The "Score Breakdown" is surely broken. I'm listed in the 98th percentile earners. While I still have the odd decent day even since I was oddly knocked to the back pages during my highest times half a year ago, I have friends on Phrendly earning more than I ever was, who still are, consistently have been, and they've told me their earning percentile is below mine, by some distance.


Yeah... I'd take "score breakdown" with a huge pinch of salt.

trustfundkiller
06-14-2018, 12:37 PM
The bidding level for page 1 is crazy? There are really that many who are happy to pay $25-$75/click? The top spot bid was $183.06?? What's that person's max for the day, is it really worth paying that much if you don't get at least 5 qualified clicks or rather stay in that spot long enough for free-sippers to contact you? Is their budget $1000/day? They're earning THAT much that they can blow nearly 200 bucks per-not-guaranteed-conversation-click? Really? Even at the best of times of guys with free sips all inundating you while you've got the exposure I just don't see how this makes sense.

Ok so I refreshed the page and I guess they couldn't sustain that for long, but even with bids being in the $20-$50/click region... and I see quite a few same people on page 1, so they're not switching off their campaigns... even if you earn 10K+/month by staying on page 1, I can't wrap my head around that there'd be people who'd give up idk...6K/month for that privilege? (assuming their campaign budget is $200/day for a month).

I'm wondering if the bids we see in the bid list on "my campaign" page are the actual bids placed by those users listed? Or is the value listed based on their activity rank score and a bid value determined for them for the purposes of someone else wanting to knock them off their spot without the person whose listed value we see is even necessarily participating in bidding?
I agree with you 100%. I took my campaign down for now because I'm not seeing the turnover that would make it "worth it" to me. I earned over $300 yesterday from regs. I earned very little in "first page" revenue in comparison, and the sanity I costed myself in frustration watching myself get charged for nothing wasn't worth the abysmal amount I did make. There is a chance I will try it again, but with my regulars I don't feel it's needed. Besides, I can't see how the first page really means anything in terms of customers.

From what I've gathered, most guys download the mobile app which doesn't show the first page and they use the starring feature or the search feature to find girls. The only way it would be advantageous is if someone is using Phrendly from their computer and they happen to see your picture under the magnifying glass icon and decidedly message you, or if they're checking out the website on their computer and browse through the pages, but what's more likely ...finding a big spender through an uncommon search method or racking up unnecessary charges?

The highest amount I saw bidding for the top spot was $14 and I think THAT is crazy. I can't even imagine paying $183 per click. No way in hell is ANYONE on Phrendly earning enough on the daily to justify that amount. And if they really have that sort of advertising budget, they would be a fool to use it on Phrendly when they could be using more mainstream platforms to promote themselves and yielding far better results.

jamma
06-14-2018, 12:50 PM
I'm wondering if the bids we see in the bid list on "my campaign" page are the actual bids placed by those users listed? Or is the value listed based on their activity rank score and a bid value determined for them for the purposes of someone else wanting to knock them off their spot without the person whose listed value we see is even necessarily participating in bidding?

The bid amount you see is not what other people are bidding, it's the amount you need to bid to occupy that slot, based on your profile score. If your profile sees a lot of action when it is displayed (is clicked, results in chats/calls/video sessions/gifts) and you are responsive, your profile score will be high, meaning you'll bid less than those who have a lower profile score.

As for other questions about *earnings percentile*, this is based on how much you earn *in regards to how often your profile is viewed.* It's natural in the early going that some profiles that have good metrics but haven't seen a lot of exposure in the past have high earnings percentiles. As these rarely seen profiles see more exposure, if they can't sustain their level of performance per impression, they'll come back down to earth.

My sincere advice is to let things play out over the next week or two and not worry about the top few spots. Bid for something less aggressive. Your activity might not change that much, but the cost savings might be significant. I'm confident we've built something that will work well for those who are committed to their business on Phrendly and who bid rationally.

moneyeyes
06-14-2018, 12:57 PM
I agree with you 100%. I took my campaign down for now because I'm not see the turnover that would make it "worth it" to me. I earned over $300 yesterday from regs. I earned very little in "first page" revenue in comparison, and the sanity I costed myself in frustration watching myself get charged for nothing wasn't worth the abysmal amount I did make. There is a chance I will try it again, but with my regulars I don't feel it's needed. Besides, I can't see how the first page really means anything in terms of customers.

From what I've gathered, most guys download the mobile app which doesn't show the first page and they use the starring feature or the search feature to find girls. The only way it would be advantageous is if someone is using Phrendly from their computer and they happen to see your picture under the magnifying glass icon and decidedly message you, or if they're checking out the website on their computer and browse through the pages, but what's more likely ...finding a big spender through an uncommon search method or racking up unnecessary charges?

I have been running small-change campaigns and found that I got plenty more stars than I otherwise do so I guess you appear higher on the app starring order too, so it's beneficial in that sense not just with guys using the website. I stopped my campaign for sleep as I don't want to pay for the privilege of waking up to long-gone stars and chargeable clicks. Today I don't know what's going on but the bid level is outrageous and since I had the experience of being on page 1 for months on end previously I know you need to remain on there for more than a snapshot in time to benefit from it. I don't see how anyone who isn't already ranked in a high position can afford to bid themselves to a high spot and earn enough to justify it. Page one is beneficial when you're there Consistently getting lots of newbies through the day and build up regulars over time.

Side-note, I'm annoyed that if you change your bid level, it resets the "money left to spend" in your budget so if you only wanted to carry on spending what you had left from the budget you originally set you need to change the budget to the amount you had left and then adjust again the next day if you wanted the original budget to be the daily...