View Full Version : Phrendly.com, a new GFE option to consider
moneyeyes
06-14-2018, 01:07 PM
The bid amount you see is not what other people are bidding, it's the amount you need to bid to occupy that slot, based on your profile score. If your profile sees a lot of action when it is displayed (is clicked, results in chats/calls/video sessions/gifts) and you are responsive, your profile score will be high, meaning you'll bid less than those who have a lower profile score.
As for other questions about *earnings percentile*, this is based on how much you earn *in regards to how often your profile is viewed.* It's natural in the early going that some profiles that have good metrics but haven't seen a lot of exposure in the past have high earnings percentiles. As these rarely seen profiles see more exposure, if they can't sustain their level of performance per impression, they'll come back down to earth.
My sincere advice is to let things play out over the next week or two and not worry about the top few spots. Bid for something less aggressive. Your activity might not change that much, but the cost savings might be significant. I'm confident we've built something that will work well for those who are committed to their business on Phrendly and who bid rationally.
Okay now that makes more sense, I suppose. Yet only makes it more difficult/practically impossible to get within page 10 let alone 1 for someone like me, who apparently must have a very low score since the bids within the first 10 pages are just too high for me to beat with a reasonable budget to sustain placement for at least half the day. I received so many clicks with my first few campaigns my budget ran out in one hour. That's not really helpful... My conversion rate is 95th percentile last I checked but it doesn't really do much for me when all these dudes are clicking and not starting chats, using up my budget for nothing.
xxxGothBarbie
06-14-2018, 07:58 PM
I'm doing a trial period on it as well. I can see where it has its perks for sure, but most of my traffic today and yesterday has not been from the q-clicks.
Side note, is anyone experiencing issues with vid chat? I had someone try to connect no less than 10 or 12 times tonight because our chat kept disconnecting anywhere between 1-7 mins in. This hasnt happened to me before so I don't think its on my end. I managed to accumulate sips in this manner but definitely lost out on what could have been over an hour of cam rate.
I had this happen last week actually. it comes & goes.
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-14-2018, 11:04 PM
can we block the guys who view us and don't message us ever, asking for a phrend
(just kidding.)
moneyeyes
06-15-2018, 08:13 AM
Can chats we're making money on from a click-through be marked in green or some other colour or whatever to make them stand out amongst the other chats?
kortneykay
06-15-2018, 10:07 AM
So I bid the other day and got like 5 guys, who barely spent much after they realized I wasn't going to send them cheap nudes. I think I made a whopping $7 and spent $2+ for bidding. Meh. Also, most of them were click backs, anyway. I'll keep at it and see what happens.
Chica
06-15-2018, 02:08 PM
Ladies, what do you find makes you more money on phrendly? Do you ever get just voice calls or more camming? I have been on the site for like 2 weeks and made around $340 but only on texting. I had few guys asking for camping but wasn’t by myself at the moment.
how do you guys bring up a subject about them calling you? Or you don’t do it at all? I mean I text so much that my thumbs will fall off lol!! And if you include some nudes
in a convo ( obviously someone else’s from Internet) how much do you ask for a
gift? Some guys if I asked for a gift equivalent to $25 disappear:((( so it’s almost easier to accept $4.50 rose and send someone else’s pussy lol and still make money:).
My main question is how do you make them call you? Do you ask? Or if they are not
willing to spend money they simply won’t offer to call you...
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-15-2018, 04:11 PM
Why not send your own nudes? Just crop your face out if you're worried about being blackmailed. As for having them call you, just turn your phone on, that's what I do and usually the guy just asks if he can cuz he sees I'm available. You can make up some excuse, or just say you'd really like to hear the sound of his voice, or flat out say you wish he'd call you.
Discodolli
06-15-2018, 04:44 PM
Ladies, what do you find makes you more money on phrendly? Do you ever get just voice calls or more camming? I have been on the site for like 2 weeks and made around $340 but only on texting. I had few guys asking for camping but wasn’t by myself at the moment.
how do you guys bring up a subject about them calling you? Or you don’t do it at all? I mean I text so much that my thumbs will fall off lol!! And if you include some nudes
in a convo ( obviously someone else’s from Internet) how much do you ask for a
gift? Some guys if I asked for a gift equivalent to $25 disappear:((( so it’s almost easier to accept $4.50 rose and send someone else’s pussy lol and still make money:).
My main question is how do you make them call you? Do you ask? Or if they are not
willing to spend money they simply won’t offer to call you...
When you say "someone else's nudes", I sure hope you have purchased the rights to sell those! Personally I use my own nudes. I find it too expensive to purchase nudes for sexting. Especially when you get regular custies, you need new content all the time!
trustfundkiller
06-15-2018, 06:41 PM
When you say "someone else's nudes", I sure hope you have purchased the rights to sell those! Personally I use my own nudes. I find it too expensive to purchase nudes for sexting. Especially when you get regular custies, you need new content all the time!
^^^ This x1000000. I REALLY hope you bought the rights to those photos, and no "sending someone else's pussy" for $4.50 isn't the answer. Don't be cheap - that mentality sets the bar low and ends up hurting everyone. Who cares about one broke motherfucker who can't dish out $25? Tell them to come back when their financial situation has improved. Your actions reinforce their mentality and by sending pussy pics for $4.50, you're telling these cheap, entitled losers that they're in the right.
Discodolli
06-15-2018, 07:40 PM
^^^ This x1000000. I REALLY hope you bought the rights to those photos, and no "sending someone else's pussy" for $4.50 isn't the answer. Don't be cheap - that mentality sets the bar low and ends up hurting everyone. Who cares about one broke motherfucker who can't dish out $25? Tell them to come back when their financial situation has improved. Your actions reinforce their mentality and by sending pussy pics for $4.50, you're telling these cheap, entitled losers that they're in the right.
Yep, and just to add to that, it's not ok to use pics you don't have the right to! That's just plain wrong..stealing from other girls. not to mention, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Chica
06-15-2018, 09:06 PM
Yep, and just to add to that, it's not ok to use pics you don't have the right to! That's just plain wrong..stealing from other girls. not to mention, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Noooooo, of course I wouldn’t post someone’s nudes without buying it first...i purchased it before for something else but the problem with that is that I constantly need new photos for Regulars and it will be way too expensive if I keep doing it. So I will be just probably taking my own photos now and cropping the face...just checked my phone settings and the phone call is on so it’s not like they don’t see it. I guess I will be just telling them I would like to hear their voice so that they can call me...when they ask you for a picture ( if it’s a picture with the clothes on) would you also ask for $25 as a gift? Do you name the price yourself or let them send you a gift they want? It just seems like if I let them chose the gift they will mostly send you the cheapest one... sorry for these questions if they seem stupid... it’s just a new thing to me and need your advise ladies...
Discodolli
06-16-2018, 08:46 AM
Noooooo, of course I wouldn’t post someone’s nudes without buying it first...i purchased it before for something else but the problem with that is that I constantly need new photos for Regulars and it will be way too expensive if I keep doing it. So I will be just probably taking my own photos now and cropping the face...just checked my phone settings and the phone call is on so it’s not like they don’t see it. I guess I will be just telling them I would like to hear their voice so that they can call me...when they ask you for a picture ( if it’s a picture with the clothes on) would you also ask for $25 as a gift? Do you name the price yourself or let them send you a gift they want? It just seems like if I let them chose the gift they will mostly send you the cheapest one... sorry for these questions if they seem stupid... it’s just a new thing to me and need your advise ladies...
It depends on the guy. Some guys are super invested with the idea that you're not doing this for money. For those guys, I avoid naming prices. Drop hints about wanting to get spoiled or feel appreciated etc. Keep him engaged but don't send nudes until he gives you the gift you want. If you have good enough rapport, you could ask them to send whatever they think it's worth, then if they send something too cheap, say "for that, I can show you this sexy picture with my clothes on" but ask for more if they really want to see you naked. If it's a guy who doesn't already like you a lot they could get annoyed by that though.
Chica
06-16-2018, 09:49 AM
Discodolli, thank you so much!! Great tips! I will try to do it next time and see what happens:) thank you!
Chica
06-16-2018, 07:09 PM
Do you ladies ask for gifts for regular pictures as well?
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-16-2018, 07:50 PM
Girl, I ask for gifts for everything. "What's your sign?" "Sends gifts and I'll tell you." Such a Capricorn. :P
Chica
06-16-2018, 08:34 PM
Does it happen often that after you ask for a gift they disappear lol?:) I was chatting back and forth with one guy for like a day... he started asking for a regular selfie not nude and I asked him to spoil me by sending a gift and that’s it silence lol:)))...do these guys really think it a dating site?:))
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-16-2018, 09:02 PM
Does it happen often that after you ask for a gift they disappear lol?:) I was chatting back and forth with one guy for like a day... he started asking for a regular selfie not nude and I asked him to spoil me by sending a gift and that’s it silence lol:)))...do these guys really think it a dating site?:))
That does happen, yes, but, oh well. There are plenty of other phrends who treat me well. What gets me is when a guy has spent thousands on me and then thinks... that we are actually a real, valid couple and that I would meet and be with someone who has paid to see intimate pictures of me.
trustfundkiller
06-17-2018, 04:10 PM
This has been discussed before but does anyone have any suggestions for file sharing sites that would allow you to send video without violating Phrendly's TOS?
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-17-2018, 09:56 PM
Can chats we're making money on from a click-through be marked in green or some other colour or whatever to make them stand out amongst the other chats?
+1
This would be really helpful.
MistressX
06-18-2018, 05:10 PM
lol deleted post cause I'm dumb
katydiamond123
06-18-2018, 05:51 PM
Yep, and just to add to that, it's not ok to use pics you don't have the right to! That's just plain wrong..stealing from other girls. not to mention, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I thought in the Phrendly TOS it says you can't use content that's not your own. Does this include buying photos from a site where they sell photos for phone sex webmasters? Just wondering because if not maybe I'll do it. I'm running out of my own with some clients!! LOL just joking!!
xxxGothBarbie
06-18-2018, 05:54 PM
I wish I knew an easier way to promote myself on here since it's been dying off for me lately :( I tell guys when i'm on periscope where to find me but there's so many women on here with my cam name ugh. Do you guys just give them the link to find you from other sites? I made $$$ from a guy on here last week that came over from periscope & think that'd be awesome potential.
trustfundkiller
06-18-2018, 06:05 PM
I thought in the Phrendly TOS it says you can't use content that's not your own. Does this include buying photos from a site where they sell photos for phone sex webmasters? Just wondering because if not maybe I'll do it. I'm running out of my own with some clients!! LOL just joking!!
I think I recall reading something like that. I'm pretty sure you would be a definite ban if you were found to be using someone else's pics.
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-18-2018, 06:06 PM
I wish I knew an easier way to promote myself on here since it's been dying off for me lately :( I tell guys when i'm on periscope where to find me but there's so many women on here with my cam name ugh. Do you guys just give them the link to find you from other sites? I made $$$ from a guy on here last week that came over from periscope & think that'd be awesome potential.
Use your TAF link. Takes them straight to your profile and gets you $10 extra if they spend $15 of real money (meaning, apart from the free $5 everyone gets for joining.)
trustfundkiller
06-18-2018, 06:08 PM
I wish I knew an easier way to promote myself on here since it's been dying off for me lately :( I tell guys when i'm on periscope where to find me but there's so many women on here with my cam name ugh. Do you guys just give them the link to find you from other sites? I made $$$ from a guy on here last week that came over from periscope & think that'd be awesome potential.
I've posted my Phrendly link on social media and got a few guys to message me on Phrendly that way. Funny enough, one of the guys who came over to Phrendly was a guy I went to middle school with! He said, "You blocked me everywhere else, and I knew messaging you here was the only way you'd talk to me :(" Damn straight, buddy.
xxxGothBarbie
06-19-2018, 12:01 AM
Thanks ladies ;) When I get my cam girl social media goin I'll def link it. Just so paranoid of ppl I know in the real life seeing any of my links.
katydiamond123
06-19-2018, 05:42 AM
lol deleted post cause I'm dumb
I've done that too and it's always a long one when it happens!!!!:-\
Glamourmilf
06-19-2018, 08:37 AM
Use your TAF link. Takes them straight to your profile and gets you $10 extra if they spend $15 of real money (meaning, apart from the free $5 everyone gets for joining.)
What's a TAF link?
Can I send it from my phone?
Or a PC?
* I have a guy that I personally know, who is willing to pay to chat.
But, when I told him to look me up, he sends a profile of someone else who has my name, asking if that's me.
When I emailed phrendly for the direct link, they said that there isn't one.
Please help.
Thank You.
jamma
06-19-2018, 10:30 AM
What's a TAF link?
Can I send it from my phone?
Or a PC?
* I have a guy that I personally know, who is willing to pay to chat.
But, when I told him to look me up, he sends a profile of someone else who has my name, asking if that's me.
When I emailed phrendly for the direct link, they said that there isn't one.
Please help.
Thank You.
TAF = "Tell-A-Friend". You'll find your personal shareable link under the Settings section (the gear icon). Anyone who joins via your link and spends (guys) or earns (girls) a minimum of $15 will put $10 in your pocket.
blondhottie
06-20-2018, 03:21 PM
I bid for one of the top spots, but don't really understand how it works. My ROI is negative right now-does that mean I'm actually losing money by bidding? Doesn't seem worth it if that's the case!
trustfundkiller
06-20-2018, 05:12 PM
I bid for one of the top spots, but don't really understand how it works. My ROI is negative right now-does that mean I'm actually losing money by bidding? Doesn't seem worth it if that's the case!
Yes! It means you lost money and you're in the negative from bidding. I don't think it's worth it at all, and I'm not going to spend the hundreds of dollars that it would take to come to a solid conclusion about whether or not it's actually worth it.
blondhottie
06-20-2018, 05:16 PM
^^^^thanks for the help! I think I'm going to cancel it. The only new guys I've gotten lately anyways are ones who pester me for contact off of Phrendly and then block me when I won't, or guys who ask me for nudes and get mad when I ask for a gift. No real big spenders-not worth it.
jamma
06-20-2018, 05:26 PM
^^^^thanks for the help! I think I'm going to cancel it. The only new guys I've gotten lately anyways are ones who pester me for contact off of Phrendly and then block me when I won't, or guys who ask me for nudes and get mad when I ask for a gift. No real big spenders-not worth it.
It can take a few days to become ROI positive; that's not unusual. Might I suggest you set a daily budget you can live with and stick with it for a week or so. If it doesn't work out for you after that, by all means pause your bids. Note that the ROI calculation currently does NOT include money earned from users who pay only with promotional money, yet that is *real* money to you (we're going to fix that to make the ROI calculations more accurate).
blondhottie
06-20-2018, 05:45 PM
Also, does it hurt your responsiveness if a guy sends you 2-3 texts in a row really fast before you can respond, so then you only get credit for 1 text? I hate that! Some guys type 2-3 things in a row really quickly, separated out, like
hi
hru
wyd
trustfundkiller
06-20-2018, 05:56 PM
It can take a few days to become ROI positive; that's not unusual. Might I suggest you set a daily budget you can live with and stick with it for a week or so. If it doesn't work out for you after that, by all means pause your bids. Note that the ROI calculation currently does NOT include money earned from users who pay only with promotional money, yet that is *real* money to you (we're going to fix that to make the ROI calculations more accurate).
This is good to know! I suspected that my ROI was off which made me stop the bidding. When the calculator is fixed, I'll give it a shot again since I added drinks to my account for the purpose of bidding.
jamma
06-20-2018, 07:54 PM
Also, does it hurt your responsiveness if a guy sends you 2-3 texts in a row really fast before you can respond, so then you only get credit for 1 text? I hate that! Some guys type 2-3 things in a row really quickly, separated out, like
hi
hru
wyd
Nope, this won't hurt your responsiveness score.
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-21-2018, 01:43 PM
In our metrics, do clicks that we get when we aren't promoting show up in our overview?
LaylaLovely
06-21-2018, 01:57 PM
I have tried to do the gifs like 3 different times and each time I get rejected!!
Lunanegra
06-21-2018, 02:07 PM
Hello everyone,
So I haven't used phrendly in a while. Signed up a year ago. Like most of the comments, it started out great, but really dropped after a few months.
I decided to try out they're bid system today, and it was ok.
I stopped my campaign because I'm going to try and get some sleep.
And I noticed that now instead of bidding like 3 bucks for the top spot, I have to bid 32.00!?
What the fuck.
I was on page 5-10 most of the night. Now I'm fucking 1000(which I kinda expected), and to gt back on those pages I have to bid a crazy amount.(which I did not see coming) What the hell is up with that.
I started out with a .38 bid for the ninth page, and increased it to .50 for the 5/6 page.
I truly don't understand how I could bid .38 to be in the top 10 pages 16 hours ago, vs having to spend 20+ to be on like page 20 now. Obviously it was late and I know that was a factor (I work nights), but this seems really strange.
Is this normal, has anybody experienced this?
Did I spend money tonight to make what 30$, just to never see those front pages again?
Any info is much appreciated!
jamma
06-21-2018, 03:08 PM
In our metrics, do clicks that we get when we aren't promoting show up in our overview?
No, we won't record the click unless the campaign is running
Lunanegra
06-21-2018, 09:28 PM
@jamma
You work for phrendly correct, could you please answer the question I posted.
Lunanegra
06-21-2018, 09:42 PM
Jesus, how are you're metrics so wack. And why wouldn't a representative for the company answer a question that is obviously geared towards them.
I honestly think it's because you didn't know yourself?
Ya'll got some work to do, because you're bid system is weird af.
Guys I found that those stupid high amounts aren't even "real"?
Went to bid 5.00 bucks to be page nine, and everything changed.
Bids are like 3.00 bucks for top spot, I spent .70 for page 7.
Just don't be discouraged to place a little bid and see how the numbers shift
Edit/top dog ain't letting no one steal that spot, it's 6.67 now, I ain't even mad
jamma
06-21-2018, 10:00 PM
@jamma
You work for phrendly correct, could you please answer the question I posted.
Not clear what your question is, but perhaps this will help:
The bid amount you see is not what other people are bidding, it's the amount you need to bid to occupy that slot, based on your profile score. If your profile sees a lot of action when it is displayed (is clicked, results in chats/calls/video sessions/gifts) and you are responsive, your profile score will be high, meaning you'll bid less than those who have a lower profile score.
As for other questions about *earnings percentile*, this is based on how much you earn *in regards to how often your profile is viewed.* It's natural in the early going that some profiles that have good metrics but haven't seen a lot of exposure in the past have high earnings percentiles. As these rarely seen profiles see more exposure, if they can't sustain their level of performance per impression, they'll come back down to earth.
My sincere advice is to let things play out over the next week or two and not worry about the top few spots. Bid for something less aggressive. Your activity might not change that much, but the cost savings might be significant. I'm confident we've built something that will work well for those who are committed to their business on Phrendly and who bid rationally.
It might also be helpful to check out the relevant help article:
https://support.phrendly.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003071112-Promoted-Profiles
Lunanegra
06-21-2018, 10:12 PM
@jamma
It's fine.
But to let you know it said I had to bid 32 for top spot. I bid 5 to be in the top ten pages, but got placed as number one.
There's obviously something up there.
alleykat217
06-22-2018, 04:43 AM
Jesus, how are you're metrics so wack. And why wouldn't a representative for the company answer a question that is obviously geared towards them.
I honestly think it's because you didn't know yourself?
Ya'll got some work to do, because you're bid system is weird af.
Guys I found that those stupid high amounts aren't even "real"?
Went to bid 5.00 bucks to be page nine, and everything changed.
Bids are like 3.00 bucks for top spot, I spent .70 for page 7.
Just don't be discouraged to place a little bid and see how the numbers shift
Edit/top dog ain't letting no one steal that spot, it's 6.67 now, I ain't even mad
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I think I know what you're talking about. Before I place a bid and start my campaign I see certain amounts. After I bid and start my campaign, the amounts change. They're drastically lower. I haven't been able to make sense out of this either but I just put a bid in, check my placement, and if I'm happy with it I leave it. I've given up trying to understand the numbers.
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-22-2018, 01:01 PM
I made over $1K last night and my earnings went from being 97% to 1% lmao... what.
jamma
06-22-2018, 01:17 PM
I made over $1K last night and my earnings went from being 97% to 1% lmao... what.
A) Congrats on a >$1K day!
B) We're looking into it. We calculate stats used in reporting in offline batches for performance reasons, which could have something to do with it. I'm guessing it no longer has you at 1%, but still, I get that such a difference in the wrong direction is bizarre and unsettling.
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-22-2018, 01:27 PM
Thank you <3
Now I'm at ... 63%. Slowly climbing my way back up, haha.
Lunanegra
06-22-2018, 02:23 PM
@Burt Macklin, Fbi
I just want to say your post have been positive af,
*What's your sign, send me a gift)
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It really boosted me up, and man I have needed it!
And I've had crazy earnings today!
Thank you beautiful unicorn!!
Burt Macklin, FBI
06-22-2018, 02:45 PM
@Burt Macklin, Fbi
I just want to say your post have been positive af,
*What's your sign, send me a gift)
����
It really boosted me up, and man I have needed it!
And I've had crazy earnings today!
Thank you beautiful unicorn!!
You're welcome! Happy to help.
Did you get the gift though?? ;)