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Alison199
10-07-2016, 11:06 AM
Hello girls. I have a problem with one website where I have opened shop. I make a lot there but they didn't pay me and didn't answer the the emails too... I am devastated... What can I do? My friend got payout ...

LAChloe
10-07-2016, 11:24 AM
What site is it?

CatBBW
10-07-2016, 11:29 AM
The OP sent me a PM asking about the site's payment methods. The site is called Scatshop.



NOTE TO LURKERS - I do not deal in scat, in any way, shape or form. Please do not ask me about supplying or making clips etc. Thanks.

Alison199
10-07-2016, 12:51 PM
Problem solved. They have problems with hurricane :(

raakashock
08-25-2017, 03:40 AM
hi, how long does it usually take for scat shop to reply to emails? trying to get my payment methods figured out.

victoriabrassy
12-11-2017, 05:28 PM
DO NOT USE SCATSHOP!!! THEY OWE ME OVER $2OO. The owner blocked my profile and called me a dick and a twat for confronting him regarding his response to client issues and NOT to payment information that I submitted over three times over six months. I cannot emphasize enough DO NOT SIGN UP OR USE HIS SITE. The owner is unbelievably rude, calls models names and takes the clients side if they spend money. Is only interested in the money and not your privacy or your payments.

IvoryDoll
12-11-2017, 05:32 PM
For fear of seeing for myself, is it a legit scat fetish site?

raakashock
12-12-2017, 08:04 AM
I started a new thread about how scat shop didn't pay me. And the site looks very legit and it works well until its time to get paid. But some models DO get paid. So I think the site will stick around because of this.

raakashock
12-12-2017, 08:10 AM
I have now been trying to get them to delete my profile after finally getting paid (it took a long time and many "shitty" emails), but I get no response. Its been over 1 month. In the rules, I cant delete the profile myself because they will take back the money from me that the customers paid for my videos. They don't require the customers to download the purchased videos, so if the model deletes it, they have nothing and get their money back. so, girls, DO NOT SELF DELETE YOUR VIDEOS FROM SCAT SHOP IF THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED!

LanaRainbow
12-25-2017, 04:15 AM
I have now been trying to get them to delete my profile after finally getting paid (it took a long time and many "shitty" emails), but I get no response. Its been over 1 month. In the rules, I cant delete the profile myself because they will take back the money from me that the customers paid for my videos. They don't require the customers to download the purchased videos, so if the model deletes it, they have nothing and get their money back. so, girls, DO NOT SELF DELETE YOUR VIDEOS FROM SCAT SHOP IF THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED!

Dealing with scatshop is complete hell the owner is very rude and takes forever to reply if they even feel like replying to your emails. I would stay away from that place.

raakashock
12-25-2017, 06:39 AM
when I 1st started on scatshop, I couldn't find any info on it. the site seems super legit with many models. I'm glad theres a thread or 2 here now for girls in the future so they don't waste their time. thanks to the girls who spoke up <3

Cam_Model_Jess
12-25-2017, 08:56 AM
I can confirm that the owner (supposedly a “she” not a “he”) is unprofessional. The customers are awful. They’re cheap, annoying & rude.

SuperPookie
12-25-2017, 06:43 PM
I have now been trying to get them to delete my profile after finally getting paid (it took a long time and many "shitty" emails), but I get no response. Its been over 1 month. In the rules, I cant delete the profile myself because they will take back the money from me that the customers paid for my videos. They don't require the customers to download the purchased videos, so if the model deletes it, they have nothing and get their money back. so, girls, DO NOT SELF DELETE YOUR VIDEOS FROM SCAT SHOP IF THEY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED!
Hmm now how would that work if your balance was 0 when you closed your account? Is there someway they actually can take funds from your bank account or something :/ ?

raakashock
12-26-2017, 12:19 PM
This is taken from the site :


Removing Clips from your store or closing your store: When a customer buys a clip, they have access to the clip for as long as they have access to ScatShop. We do not force buyers to download immediately. As such, removing clips from your store is still possible, however, you simply must send the name of the clip to [email protected] for moving it from a live clip to a hidden/unpurchaseable clip. If you “ninja delete” the file from your listing, your sales will also be ninja refunded to the buyers of that clip because you deleted their access to it, so you dont get paid for giving your customers nothing. Should you ever wish to close your store, simply send a private message to scatshop requesting so. We will confirm, and upon confirmation, your clips and your store will be permanently removed from ScatShop. Once your store or a clip is removed, that store and clip(s) may never appear on the site again as once uploaded, is no longer considered fresh new content.

raakashock
12-26-2017, 12:22 PM
For me, the problem is that they wont respond to my emails to close my account, so my store just stays open, and I have sales. I don't want to work with the site anymore because of payment issues. I'm stuck.

SuperPookie
12-27-2017, 05:29 PM
Oh I get it. You can't close your store yourself at all. Well that is just crappy.. I made a funny lol...and I really hope you get everything straightened out.

raakashock
12-29-2017, 06:47 AM
haha :D yeah same here. its just been a shitty mess.

D_D
12-31-2017, 08:45 AM
Looks like to stay away from them.
I had contact once. They wanted to push me to bring more diversity to my clips. On another site, were I sold before, guys were happy with it...

raakashock
12-31-2017, 02:38 PM
so theres more sites that do scat efro etc? I could only find this one that looked legit (i failed)

D_D
01-01-2018, 02:48 AM
I'm still looking and thinking about selling them by myself.

I have to confess, that I sold this kind of clips on C4S, years ago, until I got a warning and had to delete everything explicit. Others still do this, if you look at some previews, but when I started again with making clips some moths ago I wanted to sell them where it is allowed to sell them.

There is Yezzclips and I think Amarotic. But I'm not very happy with these sites.

raakashock
01-01-2018, 06:02 AM
i wonder if you can bill for this kind of fetish through indiebill. i have to check

**just checked and that's a big no

Sam38g
01-01-2018, 11:14 PM
Be sure the laws where you reside are not being broken.

Because then you have created videos & sales transactions electronically that all can be used against you in a court room.

Which means consulting a lawyer. Some money isn't worth the risk or the potential legal trouble it may cause in the future.

Generally, it is Visa who doesn't allow these type of transactions. Pretty much what Visa says is law. So any site that takes Visa will eventually not allow those types of videos.

You can try bitcoin or some kind of crypto currency instead.

LanaRainbow
01-02-2018, 12:41 AM
I had an account on there and they closed my account without warning. I sent many emails to which they never replied and I never got the money from all the clips I sold. I wouldn't trust scatshop.com at all.

Robert De Niro
01-08-2018, 10:21 AM
You might get a pass on scat content if your payment processor is Verotel, they're in Amsterdam and use Visa EU which allows content that Visa US doesn't allow but verotel charges $600 a year if I recall correctly.

Onlymymoney
01-10-2018, 12:07 PM
They dont pay me. What to do??

raakashock
01-11-2018, 06:12 AM
Check online for your rights on getting paid by your employer. Find out a person you can contact legally if needed. Let your employer know that if you are not paid in the next month, you will seek legal action.

Xanax66
01-12-2018, 07:46 AM
I also did not send a payment, they do not respond to messages.
Who has it happened yet?

LanaRainbow
01-19-2018, 08:15 PM
Company name is Illusions Online Inc. Report them they have done this to many models. And they are accepting credit card payments illegally. I am speaking privately to another model now that is looking into sueing them. If it is a large amount I woulď suggest getting legal help to because what they are doing is illegal.

Sally Says
02-06-2018, 09:45 AM
If you buy a clip on there who processes it?

Onlymymoney
02-08-2018, 12:22 PM
Girl don't work with scatshop. If they steal your money contact me I have theirs names, adress, I know where they work etc

Xanax66
02-09-2018, 08:53 AM
They still have not paid, they do not reply, they robbed us.

Look at the photos of our December and January payments, 494484944949450we did not get anything..

Xanax66
02-09-2018, 08:55 AM
where i can report this? what institution in the USA (Florida) is responsible for this??

raakashock
02-09-2018, 09:19 PM
I took this from a site I found in google search A few things you might not know about paying employees:

Withholding Without Consent. An employer cannot withhold a portion of an employee’s wages without their consent, except for withholdings required by law (FICA taxes, for example)

Withholding Pay as Punishment. An employer cannot withhold pay as punishment — if an employee violates company policy and leaves on bad terms, they are still owed their full paycheck;

Last Paycheck. An employee’s last paycheck is generally owed on or before the next regular payday; even if overtime was unapproved, it still must be paid in most cases.

The Department of Labor has provisions that allow employees to bring a lawsuit to recover back wages owed, an employee may bring a private lawsuit, and the U.S. Secretary of Labor may obtain an injunction to restrain an employer from violating the provisions of the Fair Labor Standards Act.
States also have provisions to bring lawsuits and obtain injunctions.

The Dept of Labor seems like the best place to start! That's what I was going to do anyway

Spemily
02-09-2018, 11:08 PM
Employee rights don't apply in this case. You aren't an employee of this organization.

Cam_Model_Jess
02-09-2018, 11:44 PM
The only thing you can do is take the owner to small claims court, and unless you’re owed a few thousand it won’t be worth it.

I too have recently had a bad experience with the company & recommend everyone stay far away.

D_D
02-10-2018, 04:03 AM
It's really sad that there are so less (and reliable) sites where one can sell material related to this fetish. There is sooo much demand. I know, the hassle with credit card companies, but still... :-(

loveshooks
02-11-2018, 02:21 PM
Company name is Illusions Online Inc

it looks like they're registered in Florida. A few years back I took a FL-based cam company to small claims court with the help of a lawyer in that state and got paid back every cent. Including court, processes server and lawyers fees. They ended up paying me quite a bit more than I was originally owed due to the costs I incurred in suing them.

It cost some money up front but was more than worth it not just for the positive outcome but due to the satisfaction of not letting them get away with stealing from me. Shoot me a PM if you want their number/website

good luck however you proceed and I really hope you get paid

KatyBoleyn
02-11-2018, 07:17 PM
The issue may come that the content was technically illegal in most US states, including Florida. They may go down for distribution of obscenity as a criminal matter, but you won't see a dime. I'm trying to figure out how they bait and switched the credit card companies to work with them. Are they redirecting billing to a different site?

Also, you as content creator may be in...deep shit? (Thank you very much, I'll be here all night, try the veal.)

If he really is US-based, he's an idiot in the first place.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jmv98y/why-is-the-guy-who-made-2-girls-one-cup-going-to-jail

Given that precedent, scat porn likely does not meet "community standards" for wholesome pornography and an obscenity conviction would be a slam dunk. With Jeff "Evil Keebler Elf" Sessions in charge at the Federal level, I'm sure they'd have a fun time and be happy for the distraction.

And this is likely what he's counting on. Its a legal Mexican standoff over your money. Really the only thing you have left is to make sure everyone in the Twitterverse knows it.


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For reference, this is what is banned for EUROPEAN processors like Verotel. This list is far more liberal than their US counterparts:

Abuse Alcohol Animal Asphyxia Beastiality Bled Bleed Bleeding Blood Brutal Brutality Brutalization Bukake Child Chloroform Choke Coerced Choking Daughter Disgrace Drink Drug Drugged Drugs Drunk Father Fecal Fetal Foetal Force Forced Forcing Hypno Hypnosis Hypnotise Hypnotize Humiliation Incapacitate Incapacitation Incest Infant Intoxicate Intoxication Involuntarily Kidnap Kill Lactate Lactation Liquor Menstrual Menstruate Molest Molestation Molested Mother Murder Mutilate Mutilation Necrophilia Pistol Passed out Pedophilia Rape Raping Rapist Scat Sedate Sedation Sedative Shit Sleep Slumber Smother Snuff Son Submission Suffocate Suffocation Tentacle Torture Unconscious Underage Unwilling Violate Violation

This guy is not operating in any kind of legal or legit manner whatsoever. Taking him to court would be like saying to Judge Judy, "I spotted that fucker 3 ounces of my best skunk and he never paid up!". Now imagine Judge Judy's response. This is how your court case will go.

cassiescat
04-07-2018, 08:56 PM
Hi,

Firstly, thank you for the warnings, I read them and I bumped the prices of everything in my shop to the maximum price essentially deactivating my account (I've heard bad things about closing). I was always paid but I also believe they targeted smaller models first to keep the stealing from being noticed for longer. My account is going to remain 'closed' until they start paying people what they're owed.

Today they seem to have finally hired someone other than alexa to help and have opened a "ticket" system with promises that every ticket will be replied to, unlike emails. They've also mentioned models who didn't get paid should come forward this way.

I have no evidence that they will pay you back but I think it's worth a try and if anyone gets paid what they're owed - PLEASE post about it here so people can see and try to also get paid!

The new system is available through the 'seller dashboard' part of the site.

I am not getting my hopes up but I think it's worth a try at least, nothing to lose.

I don't use forums much so I hope I'm replying properly - I want as many models who were cheated to see this as possible JUST in case they pay up.

SuperPookie
11-12-2019, 04:04 PM
Hmm now how would that work if your balance was 0 when you closed your account? Is there someway they actually can take funds from your bank account or something :/ ?

Bumping this question

cassiescat
11-12-2019, 04:34 PM
Bumping this question

I don't think this is possible in any way, no.

But I HAVE seen this one girl's videos on their site that they sell under just the name 'scatshop' or something. They said she closed her shop but she owed for an uncompleted custom and will continue to sell her videos to make up for this with her permission. That was THEIR explanation so however bad that sounds, I worry the truth is worse and she didn't agree to this. Not to mention she would have no way of tracking when she 'paid her debt'.

I also have an update from a seller who actually got a bunch of her regular buyers to send her receipts whenever they made a purchase (good for her convincing them of this, wow) so she could compare the numbers to how many sales she was getting on her seller dashboard. The numbers didn't line up and she could get them to bump her reported sales with her evidence but that's a lot of work to prevent stealing and you can't get in touch with every customer and get them to send you receipts. Tons of sales are going unreported to models.

I am in the process of making my own scat clips site. It's netherlands based so is actually legal to take visa/mastercard like yezzclips (same processor). One day I'm gonna have separate model accounts so more people can be on it. I dont want scatshop to have this nasty monopoly they have, it gives them too much power.

Midwest-Mistress
11-22-2019, 01:57 AM
Oh wow... I- Welp *Scratches this site off the list* That's it I'm getting crypto...

yumei
12-04-2019, 04:33 AM
Im so disappointed by scatshop. Looks like they pay me small percentage of what I see in my seller dashboard.
And of course they close my ticket without solid explanation.

Does any of You got the same issue?or its just only me?