View Full Version : Why do some strippers refuse customers simply by their race?
Raziel
11-07-2016, 11:11 AM
^ew. That just sounds disgusting!
Darkblue
11-18-2016, 10:31 AM
1- Most indian never cologne/deodorant. Its not their culture. When you see indian customers tell them to use deodorant.
2 - Most indians dont know the club rules,also they are shy to ask about rules. So explain them about rules.
3 - Most indians are cheap. if they bargain on dances , just cut the conversation and move on to next one. They don't do many VIPs. They want to save save save money all the time.
4 - 10% of Indians are super decent and spend aggressively at clubs. Try to make them as regulars.
lynn2009
11-19-2016, 05:49 PM
1- When you see indian customers tell them to use deodorant.
2 - So explain them about rules.
3 - just cut the conversation and move on to next one. They don't do many VIPs. They want to save save save money all the time.
4 - 10% of Indians are super decent and spend aggressively at clubs. Try to make them as regulars.
never would have thought of that...super thanks.
catlover0106
11-21-2016, 11:55 AM
A lot of girls at my club won't talk to indians. I use it to my advantage because they all refuse to talk to them and I do so no competition with them and I'm almost always the one doing dances with them. My manager actually called me the "indian whisperer" lmfao. To me anyone's money is good. But I admit the vast majority are a lot to deal with. And I would agree it's probably a cultural thing because the ones born in america seem much more typical. The ones who grew up in india tend to be a lot more grabby and pushy during the dances and tend to go for the cheapest dances and ask for extras. I've heard it has something to do with their culture and how they view women. Also honestly a lot told me they were virgins or in arranged marriages and I think they were deprived and overexcited and confused about the whole situation.
Personally I wouldn't refuse any customer based on their race. But I do prioritize them based on my experience. Being a skinny girl with no tits or ass or I generally talk to black guys last because in my experience they don't like me except for a few rare exceptions, but I would not turn one down if they asked for a dance.
I have a friend who will not do dances with anyone female because she finds it weird. I still don't totally understand girls who turn down dances with customers honestly, especially because they seem to usually be the ones who need the money the most.
Layla.00
11-22-2016, 07:06 AM
All customers have the potential to be assholes in the VIP. The majority of my bad experiences have been with drunk white men. But I also understand how they are socialized because those are the type of idiots Ive had to deal with since hitting puberty. I know what to expect from them, how to control them, how to tell them off etc because unfortunately I've had to do it too many times.
Guys from other backgrounds are generally socialized differently. As problematic as white guys but I just don't have as much experience with them and feel more vulnerable when were alone in the VIP.
Luckyguy09
11-25-2016, 01:42 PM
A lot of girls at my club won't talk to indians. I use it to my advantage because they all refuse to talk to them and I do so no competition with them and I'm almost always the one doing dances with them. My manager actually called me the "indian whisperer" lmfao. To me anyone's money is good. But I admit the vast majority are a lot to deal with. And I would agree it's probably a cultural thing because the ones born in america seem much more typical. The ones who grew up in india tend to be a lot more grabby and pushy during the dances and tend to go for the cheapest dances and ask for extras. I've heard it has something to do with their culture and how they view women. Also honestly a lot told me they were virgins or in arranged marriages and I think they were deprived and overexcited and confused about the whole situation.
Personally I wouldn't refuse any customer based on their race. But I do prioritize them based on my experience. Being a skinny girl with no tits or ass or I generally talk to black guys last because in my experience they don't like me except for a few rare exceptions, but I would not turn one down if they asked for a dance.
I have a friend who will not do dances with anyone female because she finds it weird. I still don't totally understand girls who turn down dances with customers honestly, especially because they seem to usually be the ones who need the money the most.
Reminds me of a white escort I know who only sees black men. It's posted in her ad that she only books with black men.
Luckyguy09
11-25-2016, 06:12 PM
I have seen this a lot at the clubs and it really bothers me. Strippers will come up to me and say they will never ask that guy over there for a dance *points to him* simply because of what race he is. They may have had a few bad experiences with black men, or Indian men, or Asian men, or latino men ... because of those few bad experiences they make this really unfair stereotype of all men of that race and judge every man of that race to be a bad customer which I find to be honest a very rotten way to treat people. There excuse was they have had dances before with men of that race before and they were all bad experiences so therefore by their very illogical reasoning -> all men who are of that race must be that way.
You know I am Caucasian and I have acted inappropriate sometimes at clubs and I have observed many Caucasian men act inappropriately too. Yet I don't see these same strippers saying because they had a few bad experiences with Caucasian men -> they all must be this way and that is why they refuse dances from any customer who is Caucasian.
I felt bad for an very smart young man who came here from India. He was an Electrical Engineering student at the University of Chicago, really sharp guy. The guy did nothing wrong, but a dancer who was more than willing to give me dances and sit with me wasn't willing to give any of her time to this young man simply because of his race. She pointed him out to me as we talked and told me she would never do a vip and dances with that guy, he had kept asking her for dances and she avoided him. She said the reason was she had a few bad experiences with Indian men and therefore they all were this way and she avoided them at the clubs. I felt bad for the guy because he was doing nothing wrong in the club. He spent good money on other dancers and he certainly had way more money than I did, he drove to the club in an expensive BMW. His father was an engineer and he came from a family of engineers.
I always remember that incident and I made it a point everytime I went back to club to refuse getting any dances or VIPS from that dancer anytime she asked me for dances or VIPs, she always asks me but I say no. I thought about telling her why, but I don't want start a fight. Not the kind of person I want as my friend or to spend anytime with.
Why do dancers do this? It really bothers me when I see this behavior and truthfully when a dancer engages in this behavior I tend to lose all respect for them as a person.
Some of the stereotypes are true.. I went all the way to Thailand and the same problems women have in the United States the Thai women were complaining about the same issues. In Thailand women are reluctant to see Indian men because they smell bad and are cheap. They are also are reluctant to see black men because they worry that penis size is too big.
Luckyguy09
11-25-2016, 06:33 PM
The only race im loathe to dance for is Indian men , and that's because of their culture not skin color. I had a great young Indian custie who was 2nd or 3rd generation and was respectful. But in my half a decade or so in the industry he's been about the only one. Most cultures on this planet have fucked up views of women and consent but w Indian men it's hardcore and it's about protecting myself from as much assault as I can in a night, it's not personal or that I believe ppl of a different skin tone are beneath my attentions. Fuck.and this does not stem from just "a few" bad experiences. I'm also leery of guys in suits and frat boys
I have been overseas to countries where men are less chivalrous and it appeared that women were "put in their place", but you know something, I noticed that those women had more respect for their men.
In my opinion, women don't respect nice men.
Genoveve
11-25-2016, 06:38 PM
I have been overseas to countries where men are less chivalrous and it appeared that women were "put in their place", but you know something, I noticed that those women had more respect for their men.
Respect, fear, tomato, tomahto.....
We had a rabbit like you
11-26-2016, 08:39 AM
Yea that just made my fucking flesh crawl
SuperJa
11-26-2016, 10:55 AM
Respect, fear, tomato, tomahto.....
Yeah, I would say lots of us have true respect for a lot of men in our lives buuuuuut
They actually have to earn it. I'm not just going to bow down because you have a fucking penis. I can buy a bigger one, what else do you bring to the table.
Luckyguy09
11-26-2016, 07:59 PM
I don't do foreigners, bc back in their home country they only have brothels. They think the strip club is either the same or "stupid American culture shit"(I've heard this from a European) that makes no sense to them. Oh well. In all fairness, the only Indians I've been lucky with are the ones who come from London. I've been lucky with two business Mexicans before....generous and gentleman.....but that is so rare. Usually, I would not approach neither.
White men can be a fucking nightmare too. Especially the privileged one who thinks he can do whatever he wants, bc of his status.
I just go with who the staff is ass kissing to and his mannerism.
Those foreigners are right. Dancing/stripping is cool, and it has its place (nothing like a beautiful female body in motion), but for strip clubs to be the main and only source of sexual entertainment that is legal in America is a scam.
The American strip club culture is environment where men kept in sexual arousual for as long as possible without getting them off or providing any real sexual relief. It's unhealthy.
Overseas in countries where sex work is legal or tolerated stripclubs are minimal or they are merged inside brothels so you can watch women dance and at any time pay a fee to take the woman of your dreams back to a designated area inside the building or back to your hotel altogether for full on sex.
American guys don't know what they're missing. Germany probably has the best set up with the most beautiful women.
https://youtu.be/RNahisHBDE4
whirlerz
11-26-2016, 08:01 PM
My ex prob exp this, he lived in Ger for awhile, had a beamer too.
azballer
11-26-2016, 08:08 PM
Sometimes small ethnic groups in clubs can get a little out of control, just as the locals can. For the less experienced dancer, this isn't problem. I often wondered why I so often see "no black men" in escort ads. Then someone told me that they tend to want to talk and negotiate incessantly, always asking for more, expecting the girls to be excited about having a black man, etc. I know professional black men who are gentlemen, but I also have friends that fit the stereotype haggler/negotiator.
Genoveve
11-26-2016, 08:28 PM
Those foreigners are right. Dancing/stripping is cool, and it has its place (nothing like a beautiful female body in motion), but for strip clubs to be the main and only source of sexual entertainment that is legal in America is a scam.
The American strip club culture is environment where men kept in sexual arousual for as long as possible without getting them off or providing any real sexual relief. It's unhealthy.
Overseas in countries where sex work is legal or tolerated stripclubs are minimal or they are merged inside brothels so you can watch women dance and at any time pay a fee to take the woman of your dreams back to a designated area inside the building or back to your hotel altogether for full on sex.
American guys don't know what they're missing.
If you despise stripclubs why are you on stripperweb lol. You whining about the fact that strippers here don't put out plus your belief that women need to be put in their place(and what place is that exactly?) just makes you sound like the typical misogynist who's pissed because you feel like you're automatically entitled to respect and admiration from women and yet aren't getting it. Go back to Saudi Arabia. Btw if you keep experiencing women not giving you any respect you might want to look inward.
We had a rabbit like you
11-27-2016, 09:25 AM
Yup let's bring back the acid attacks and stonings, that'll teach those damn females the respect they should feel for all penis owners lmao. Ew. No wonder you get no respect dude, you straight up deserve none...and especially not for having a Y chromosome. Sorry hun. I love it, of a male isn't dominating the household it's a "broken home" haha
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-27-2016, 12:53 PM
1. What attracted me to this forum was the "other work" section pertaining to escorting.
2. Genoveve, nobody is whining that American strippers don't put out. The conversation was just the comparisons between American adult entertainment vs overseas adult entertainment. But of course, I knew someone would get upset and feel threatened for agreeing that overseas adult entertainment is superior.
3. You prove my point just by the way to talk to me. What's the point of lashing out at someone who brings up wanting to be treated better?
Like I said, women in other countries have more respect for men. To be fair, foreign women tend to grow up inside intact families with their fathers and adult male family members playing a pivotal role in their life unlike here in the United States where it seems like nearly everyone comes from a broken home.
Reminds me of a young woman from Egypt I met here in the States. Her words will forever resonate with me as she described how she grew up with her father and brothers and how she felt so safe when she was around Egyptian men where here in America she didn't get that feeling of security from American guys.
How exactly is she supposed to talk to you? With her head low and slightly bent over? Knock it off! This is a sexworkers forum comprised mostly of women so of course your words are offensive. You are just another troll trying to covertly say that sex workers have Daddy Issues. I see you and other members of the forum see you as well. This is not the place for negging.
Genoveve
11-27-2016, 02:46 PM
2. Genoveve, nobody is whining that American strippers don't put out. The conversation was just the comparisons between American adult entertainment vs overseas adult entertainment. But of course, I knew someone would get upset and feel threatened for agreeing that overseas adult entertainment is superior.
Well seeing as how I'm not a stripper I don't think your attempt to paint me as merely being defensive works very well.
3. You prove my point just by the way to talk to me. What's the point of lashing out at someone who brings up wanting to be treated better?
If you can't grasp that coming onto a forum that's mostly women and talking about how you think being disrespectful to them is the way to go in order to get treated decently by them is ideal is going to offend........you must be pretty dense. I'm going to guess that your denseness is the real reason behind the trouble that you seem to regularly have with women. And yes, I will talk to you in whatever way you inspire me to.
bbwbrianna
11-27-2016, 05:18 PM
I have been overseas to countries where men are less chivalrous and it appeared that women were "put in their place", but you know something, I noticed that those women had more respect for their men.
In my opinion, women don't respect nice men.
Are you a troll? Of course Women in other countries will pretend to respect men when they are BEATEN when really they just wish their husbands would keel over. Respect is earned and never given. It is obvious why you are so hateful to women. Take this crap to the blue forums. You don't need to be posting this on a SUPPORT site for sex workers.
SuperJa
11-27-2016, 06:17 PM
Lmao also anyone who has to label certain men as "nice" is a huuuuge red flag for "actually an asshat".
We've all met, dated, and worked with etc men who are legitimately good people- i.e. guys who actually treat everyone decently and do kind things for others whether those actions are likely to lead to sex or not. They don't call themselves "nice guys" because it's obvious by their actions that they are kickass human beings.
otoh the internet is full of guys crying "I'm a nice guy? Why won't any of these stupid bitches have sex with me????"
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-27-2016, 06:27 PM
"I'm a nice guy? Why won't any of these stupid bitches have sex with me????"
THIS! OMFG I have a really close friend who says stuff like this all the time. He really doesn't get it. I love him to pieces and have known him since 12 but homeboy has no clue how to handle rejection. ONE woman years ago did him wrong and now ALL women are stupid bitches if they aren't into him. Except for me. Im cool and I pass his approval regiment. Lucky me
bbwbrianna
11-27-2016, 07:06 PM
LMFAO this fucking topic. Nice guys don't expect women to fuck them just so guys on customer conversation know.
Luckyguy09
12-26-2016, 09:37 PM
Aren't you just a saint for caring about that guy.
What club are you at where all this nonsense allegedly happens? You make it sound like all the dancers just talk to and give you alllllll the inside info and drama ::)
Middle eastern guys tend to get ignored because they generally smell bad, are handsy, and often cheap.
I tend to ignore black guys simply because they 9/10 times they don't want a thin white girl. Waste of my energy.
Not racism, just knowing my market.
Funny, I use to be that type of black guy and looking back I was so ignorant. Black and Hispanic guys are kind of raised in a culture that glorifies big booty pear shaped women to such a degree that we just completely overlook/write off thin and petite girls.
As I started traveling around and having more experience I got with thin white girls just for kicks thinking I really wouldn't have as much of a good time only to be proven so wrong and have my mind blown and full out catching feelings which doesn't happen to me...lol
tempest666
12-27-2016, 10:35 PM
Same reason a dog licks its asshole: Because we can, sometimes it's necessary, and sometimes it feels damn good.
Vyanka
12-28-2016, 12:31 PM
Those foreigners are right. Dancing/stripping is cool, and it has its place (nothing like a beautiful female body in motion), but for strip clubs to be the main and only source of sexual entertainment that is legal in America is a scam.
The American strip club culture is environment where men kept in sexual arousual for as long as possible without getting them off or providing any real sexual relief. It's unhealthy.
Overseas in countries where sex work is legal or tolerated stripclubs are minimal or they are merged inside brothels so you can watch women dance and at any time pay a fee to take the woman of your dreams back to a designated area inside the building or back to your hotel altogether for full on sex.
American guys don't know what they're missing. Germany probably has the best set up with the most beautiful women.
https://youtu.be/RNahisHBDE4
Then stay the fuck out of our American strip clubs, if you or anyone else finds it "unhealthy". GTFO here with that shit.
If a man has the urge to fuck after visiting a strip club, he can go to his SO/fuck buddy, go online, pay an escort, or go to a regular bar....
There are options out there.
whirlerz
12-28-2016, 02:04 PM
Then stay the fuck out of our American strip clubs, if you or anyone else finds it "unhealthy". GTFO here with that shit.
If a man has the urge to fuck after visiting a strip club, he can go to his SO/fuck buddy, go online, pay an escort, or go to a regular bar....
There are options out there.
LMAO!
NYC.Bianca
12-29-2016, 01:57 AM
Even tho this post went off on a trolling tangent.. I am gonna talk about the racist stuff lol.
So I've danced all over the country and honestly, EVERYWHERE you go; someones race/ethnicity always impacts how they are in the club it seems... it's really weird how it is the SAME everywhere, mostly a cultural thing. But for me..I completely avoid Indians, Cubans, Mexicans/spanish in general because yes they are handsy, cheap and always want a prostitute; Black guys ALWAYS wanna throw money or don't spend hardly any or are just trying to date a stripper; so honestly 98% of my money comes from white dudes. that extra 2% are the black dudes that make it rain.
Oh... and Asians LOVE fake boobs and will make it rain also on your stage but always want too much for too little and are super handsy too; so I also stay away from asians unless i am on stage.
So yep, there ya go.
tempest666
12-30-2016, 04:39 AM
Even tho this post went off on a trolling tangent.. I am gonna talk about the racist stuff lol.
So I've danced all over the country and honestly, EVERYWHERE you go; someones race/ethnicity always impacts how they are in the club it seems... it's really weird how it is the SAME everywhere, mostly a cultural thing. But for me..I completely avoid Indians, Cubans, Mexicans/spanish in general because yes they are handsy, cheap and always want a prostitute; Black guys ALWAYS wanna throw money or don't spend hardly any or are just trying to date a stripper; so honestly 98% of my money comes from white dudes. that extra 2% are the black dudes that make it rain.
Oh... and Asians LOVE fake boobs and will make it rain also on your stage but always want too much for too little and are super handsy too; so I also stay away from asians unless i am on stage.
So yep, there ya go.
I'm half Mexican and I will attest to this. If I had a $$$$ for every "Sexo en el VIP?" inquiry, I'd be richer than our president-elect right now.
ShyStripper
12-30-2016, 05:13 AM
If you're from a part of the world where you can buy sex for $20 because there are so many women competing to get a little extra money to feed themselves it can be mind boggling that people would spend hundreds on a lapdance where you cannot even touch. Especially if the culture involves knowing how to haggle hard over everything if you don't want to get seriously ripped off. Sex is a need, strip clubs are a luxury. In Australia an unemployed person can get up to AU$500 a fortnight in welfare. Unless you have a serious drug problem there's no need for a price war on sex for anyone to pay their rent. Haggling over dance prices like you would over a bunch of bananas can be offensive to strippers. All the clubs I've worked in have used a set pricing system - I can give a customer a discount on a $60 lap dance but I've still got to give the house $25 from it (no house fee club).
Luckyguy09
12-31-2016, 01:43 PM
If you're from a part of the world where you can buy sex for $20 because there are so many women competing to get a little extra money to feed themselves it can be mind boggling that people would spend hundreds on a lapdance where you cannot even touch]. Especially if the culture involves knowing how to haggle hard over everything if you don't want to get seriously ripped off. Sex is a need, strip clubs are a luxury[/B]. In Australia an unemployed person can get up to AU$500 a fortnight in welfare. Unless you have a serious drug problem there's no need for a price war on sex for anyone to pay their rent. Haggling over dance prices like you would over a bunch of bananas can be offensive to strippers. All the clubs I've worked in have used a set pricing system - I can give a customer a discount on a $60 lap dance but I've still got to give the house $25 from it (no house fee club).
Quoted for truth.
Luckyguy09
12-31-2016, 02:02 PM
Then stay the fuck out of our American strip clubs, if you or anyone else finds it "unhealthy". GTFO here with that shit. .
Oh, I do stay out and I'm never going back. Couldn't pay me to go to an American strip club (no offense to the dancers though). Asshole bouncers who like to beat up on male customers, overpriced drinks shoved in my face every 5 minutes, loud crap music, no touching girls even to the point of bouncers monitoring VIP rooms.. How do these places stay in business treating customers so poorly? It's like American nightclubs, they rake people over, overcharge and treat customers like crap.
Oh, I do stay out and I'm never going back. Couldn't pay me to go to an American strip club (no offense to the dancers though). Asshole bouncers who like to beat up on male customers, overpriced drinks shoved in my face every 5 minutes, loud crap music, no touching girls even to the point of bouncers monitoring VIP rooms.. How do these places stay in business treating customers so poorly? It's like American nightclubs, they rake people over, overcharge and treat customers like crap.
Been going to clubs for years.....and never been beaten up by a bouncer. You probably deserved it.....sounds like you are an ahole!
Vyanka
12-31-2016, 02:25 PM
Seriously..if a bouncer beats you up, it's for a reason. No one gets beat up for free.
Selina M
12-31-2016, 02:39 PM
"Treating customers so poorly"
That's amusing, considering the general consensus is that besides from the income potential, we girls are the ones who get treated poorly.
In most clubs, the customer is always right so he'll keep buying liquor, and the girl is wrong because she's an easily replaceable attraction.
Luckyguy09
12-31-2016, 03:19 PM
Yup let's bring back the acid attacks and stonings, that'll teach those damn females the respect they should feel for all penis owners lmao. Ew. No wonder you get no respect dude, you straight up deserve none...and especially not for having a Y chromosome. Sorry hun. I love it, of a male isn't dominating the household it's a "broken home" haha
All I said was in other countries I noticed that foregin women respected their men a lot more. I wasn't talking about me specifically, or avocating mistreatment, but about how males are treated in general.
For that to create such a backlash you have proven that American girls throw a fit when they are held to a higher standard like knowing how to set a table and cook for their man like women do in other countries.
And yes, males need to be present and need to take leadership roles within thier household otherwise neighborhoods turn into ghettos.
Genoveve
12-31-2016, 03:42 PM
All I said was in other countries I noticed that foregin women respected their men a lot more.
No, you said:
I have been overseas to countries where men are less chivalrous and it appeared that women were "put in their place", but you know something, I noticed that those women had more respect for their men.
Saying that women should be disrespected so that they'll be more respectful is straight-up misogyny, no matter how many times you try to use the defensiveness cop-out(get a new tactic btw).
DeathAndTaxes
12-31-2016, 03:42 PM
And yes, males need to be present and need to take leadership roles within thier household otherwise neighborhoods turn into ghettos.
You are reaching buddy, if you think you understand what causes poverty.
We had a rabbit like you
12-31-2016, 04:07 PM
Bahaha we females need to learn to set the table y'all! These vaginas come with cooking duties! Ok this is a very amusing troll
Genoveve
12-31-2016, 04:12 PM
^^I know lol, he really does need to relocate to Saudi Arabia since he is obviously a big fan of super traditional relationships and gender roles.
DamnJolene
12-31-2016, 05:04 PM
Lots of guys = can afford to be picky
Slow night.... You bet I talk to everyone.
victoriavein
12-31-2016, 08:27 PM
Bahaha we females need to learn to set the table y'all! These vaginas come with cooking duties! Ok this is a very amusing troll
I do know how to cook and I do set the table for my man. He also cooks and sets the table. We take turns doing dishes and chores. It's called being an adult and having a healthy marriage. Yes I lived with one of 'those' guys who disrespected me and tried to 'put me in my place' so I put him in his place on the curb and moved onto a good guy. Actually women do love nice guys, just not fake nice guys who are really assholes pretending to be nice, Mr. Troll :)
And to answer the OP's question when I stripped I avoided whoever the fuck I wanted for any reason or no reason at all. Don't like his hair? Smells weird? Bad vibes? Don't feel like talking to Indians today? All legit and no one's business but the dancer's. Period