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Erika_Xstacy
08-20-2021, 11:23 AM
Im going to scream laughing if we fell victim to mainstream media
OF replied to me the same as everyone else

TheBrownFox
08-20-2021, 12:36 PM
Thank you! Yes on the paid they can message as much as they like! I don't think there's an option to charge them to message you on paid. Aside from the lack of DM's haha, do you find customers buy your PPV's etc? Or is it just freeloader central with those expecting it to be truly "free"?


If PPV is referring to the paid to open posts on my OF timeline, then no, I have very few people paying to open posts. It's pretty much the same few dudes paying to unlock posts. Every once in a while I'll get a new person willing to pay to unlock a video. I'm only making payout on this site like once (sometimes twice) a month.

caramelcraze
08-20-2021, 01:03 PM
Can't remember the name of it, but Sophie Dee has a company that offers service. You can pick the content creator check out their prices of promo on twitter, Instagam & OF.

If you remember, feel free to post or dm me, though I’ll be switching to a different platform in light of the current news.

PrincessAngel
08-20-2021, 02:55 PM
TBH we already had to bring all of our own traffic to begin with, so I am not really bothered by OF banning porn? There literally is no discoverability feature; really it has always been not that great. A huge percentage of their customer base is probably there for porn only, and that means we'll all leave and "the new onlyfans" will establish itself in no time at all; it's replaceable because both customers and models will all leave at the same time. In a way we literally shouldn't care which fanclub site we use. It was surprisingly easy to send a mass message and prepare people to move on.

I don't know whether OnlyFans & AVN being owned by the same guy is going to affect AVN; the latter brand being an adult-only operation and also magazine. He'd have to shut it (AVN STARS) down, and I don't think he will. It's probably just that non pornographic content offers exceedingly cheaper cc processing and therefore a vastly superior profit per sale ratio. Part of me almost wants to say that they want more Belle Delphine, less porn (lol). Explicit, but not pornographic, with a vague standard and vaguely worded rule they'll now enforce somewhat arbitrarily, starting October. Lewd cosplay, strangely sexual workout videos; the swers are being screwed over - same old bs, really. Like someone earlier said: Probably will go the route of a slightly more lewd patreon.

Since I also work with some surprisingly well paying regional European sites I had long since just gotten into the habit of keeping AVN, Fancentro, OF and MV Crush in the "fanclub" folder and always posting all my content to all of them at once. I care only about the bottom line, I think neither fans nor I care too much about what logo is in the top left as long as we all get what we want.

TheBrownFox
08-20-2021, 03:08 PM
So I'm seeing a bunch of posts (from OF creators) about an e-mail that just went out from OnlyFans. I didn't get any e-mail.

PrincessAngel
08-20-2021, 03:09 PM
So I'm seeing a bunch of posts (from OF creators) about an e-mail that just went out from OnlyFans. I didn't get any e-mail.




Dear OnlyFans Creator,

This email is to notify you of changes to our Acceptable Use Policy that will go live effective October 1, 2021.

The new policy will prohibit the posting of any new content containing sexually-explicit conduct. Content containing nudity will continue to be allowed as long as it is consistent with the policy.

Existing content that does not meet the standards of the new policy will need to be removed before December 1, 2021.

Our intention is for the policy to be implemented in accordance with the above dates, but we may need to change one or more of the dates as circumstances may require.

Here is a link to the new Acceptable Use Policy – https://www.onlyfans.com/aup

Why did the policy have to change?

Due to the size and rapid growth of the OnlyFans platform, where creators have earned over $5 billion dollars since inception, we must increasingly rely on large banking institutions and payment processors to facilitate payments between fans and creators. The new rules are necessary to comply with the requirements of these financial institutions and are the only way to help ensure the long-term sustainability of OnlyFans.

OnlyFans was founded as a diverse and inclusive home for all content creators and we stand by our commitment to that mission. We will continue to support and guide all creators through these necessary changes, making sure that all creators have a home on our platform.

We look forward to continuing to provide an innovative platform for our diverse creator community.

Thank you,
OnlyFans Team




...shows, promotes, advertises or refers to “sexually explicit conduct”, which means:
actual or simulated sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, between persons of any sex;
actual or simulated masturbation;
any exhibition of the anus or genitals of any person which is extreme or offensive;
actual or simulated material depicting bodily fluids commonly secreted during sexual conduct;


This reads like as if to say that while nudity is still okay, even putting too sexual a text or implying anything sexual is banned. Also what the fuck is extreme genital exhibition? LOL

Tbh this is really awkward to work with. You can pose in latex but implying the viewer would enjoy being degraded or pegged by you already "referring, promoting, or advertising", "something sexually explicit".

It'd be fuckin PAINFUL to work around.

anonamiss
08-20-2021, 03:36 PM
lol @ "extreme genital exhibition" ... i would take that to basically mean don't spread your pussy lips or ass cheeks open with your hands/fingers.

if it's not what could be considered a "tasteful" nude, i wouldn't even attempt it.

TheBrownFox
08-20-2021, 03:41 PM
This reads like as if to say that while nudity is still okay, even putting too sexual a text or implying anything sexual is banned. Also what the fuck is extreme genital exhibition? LOL

Tbh this is really awkward to work with. You can pose in latex but implying the viewer would enjoy being degraded or pegged by you already "referring, promoting, or advertising", "something sexually explicit".

It'd be fuckin PAINFUL to work around.

Thanks. Yeah, I'd already seen that message from people on AmberCutie Forum who'd posted it earlier. I was just saying that I was annoyed that I hadn't gotten the e-mail yet. Lol. I finally did get the e-mail at 6:18 PM.

everythingiscake
08-20-2021, 03:48 PM
Who decides what is tasteful? What is extreme? Basically vanilla soft core only?

anonamiss
08-20-2021, 03:53 PM
Who decides what is tasteful? What is extreme? Basically vanilla soft core only?

well that's the obvious issue here. it's subjective and broad. i'm not even sure "soft core" is the right word. it can't be pornographic at all.

if it were me i would sign up for a site that actually allows sexually explicit content so you don't have to worry about it, and then gradually move your content and customers there before october.

JessRyan
08-20-2021, 05:33 PM
^^ I'm thinking that too. I do okay on my manyvids crush. I'll focus on that and slowly get my OF guys moved. Or try to anyways

luna93
08-20-2021, 06:55 PM
So, I don't do do videos. I do ppv's/ptv's in gif and audio format. With OF dying do AVN stars or Justforfans support this kind of content?

Erika_Xstacy
08-20-2021, 07:56 PM
Im going to scream laughing if we fell victim to mainstream media
OF replied to me the same as everyone else
I did nothing but laugh when I saw that email.
we fell victim to the whole world bc of the way it was handled.
check these fools out
https://twitter.com/wingstop/status/1428444206796783617

eta: this isn't a good or funny laugh, this is a up my meds type of laugh.
this week has been done

laurielegs
08-21-2021, 12:46 AM
So, I don't do do videos. I do ppv's/ptv's in gif and audio format. With OF dying do AVN stars or Justforfans support this kind of content?

On AVN you can do it in a paid post (attach both your audio and gif at once) but in a message for some reason they only have still photo format or video, not gifs. I've emailed them to please add this to messaging ppv because I've used this on Onlyfans and I want to use that feature on AVN also. My customers like gifs and audio a lot, way better than a still photo.

Not sure about justforfans. I noticed some articles saying they are great for creators who make gay content, so I haven't registered there since mine is mostly femdom. That may change though now that onlyfans is doing their porn lockout.

MissAdriana
08-21-2021, 07:22 AM
There literally is no discoverability feature; really it has always been not that great.

100% same to everything. I guess it could be good to leave up all non-nude stuff and see who pays. We could still get paid for the twitter/social media content depending how many fans want it. But I'm not going to try to toe the line on fetish content and nudes after reading that acceptable use policy. If they really want that they can sub to me elsewhere.

I'm curious to see if OF actually becomes successful mainstream. It could still be a good side hustle for other things non-sexual.

roseforarose
08-21-2021, 08:19 AM
Part of me almost wants to say that they want more Belle Delphine, less porn (lol). Explicit, but not pornographic, with a vague standard and vaguely worded rule they'll now enforce somewhat arbitrarily, starting October. Lewd cosplay, strangely sexual workout videos

Slight tangent but Belle Delphine did end up going down the route of explicit pornography lol, so she'll be banned too. I think a lot of lewd models ended up doing more explicit on OF as time went on. Although lewd/cosplay might be able to shimmey under the bar for the new rules, if all the guys leave for elsewhere the models are gunna leave too. OF might try to cling to cosplay/lewd as a money-maker but everyone will leave like they did with Patreon once a more fitting site comes along.

luna93
08-21-2021, 12:34 PM
On AVN you can do it in a paid post (attach both your audio and gif at once) but in a message for some reason they only have still photo format or video, not gifs. I've emailed them to please add this to messaging ppv because I've used this on Onlyfans and I want to use that feature on AVN also. My customers like gifs and audio a lot, way better than a still photo.

Not sure about justforfans. I noticed some articles saying they are great for creators who make gay content, so I haven't registered there since mine is mostly femdom. That may change though now that onlyfans is doing their porn lockout.

Thanks for the reply. Are you able to thread these PPV messages together like NF to make it a passive income funnel or is it like OF where you can only send one at a time?

AuroraJade
08-21-2021, 01:25 PM
If somebody is looking for an alternative, I have been playing with Loyalfans a while ago and I really liked it. Its really similar to OF, has a lot of cool features and the site works good. Support also responds quick on Twitter, which I take as a big plus. And they are made especially for SW'ers.

I am not on there for years, they are a pretty new platform, but I do have a referral link. If you wish to try it out, you can use my link if you want to. Check my signature :) Just like OF, its bring your own traffic, but the website has a small amount of organic traffic themselves. So might be worth checking out.

Sam38g
08-21-2021, 01:31 PM
Seems all the backlash, bad press & rage by content creators on all social media platforms.. OF posted this https://twitter.com/OnlyFans/status/1429117407340240902?s=20

Dear Sex Workers,

The OnlyFans community would not be what it is today without you.

The policy change was necessary to secure banking and payment services to support you.

We are working around the clock to come up with solutions.

#SexWorkIsWork

Now, we matter.. Now they address us! Guessing their traffic & sales drastically dropped too.

AuroraJade
08-21-2021, 01:34 PM
I give them three months before they are bankrupt.

freya_jade_
08-21-2021, 07:07 PM
I am considering still using them and just lowering my monthly price while transitioning all of my hardcore porn/masturbation content back to paid vids on other sites again. Like i mean idk, nudity is still allowed, and I'm pretty sure the rules still allow for things like dirty talk, spanking, oil on boobs/butt, etc, right? Like just as long as you're not sucking off a dildo or touching your pussy.

anonamiss
08-21-2021, 07:38 PM
I am considering still using them and just lowering my monthly price while transitioning all of my hardcore porn/masturbation content back to paid vids on other sites again. Like i mean idk, nudity is still allowed, and I'm pretty sure the rules still allow for things like dirty talk, spanking, oil on boobs/butt, etc, right? Like just as long as you're not sucking off a dildo or touching your pussy.

i wouldn't be so certain. and i wonder if you were to ask OF support directly if they would answer you with clarity or just give you some vague BS.

dirty talk is inherently sexually explicit though, which would imply it's not allowed. might not even matter if there's no nudity, the act itself (talking about sex) is technically pornographic in nature.

i could be very wrong but i also don't think now is the time to try to push the grey area boundaries on OF without risking your whole account getting banned.

laurielegs
08-21-2021, 07:49 PM
I am considering still using them and just lowering my monthly price while transitioning all of my hardcore porn/masturbation content back to paid vids on other sites again. Like i mean idk, nudity is still allowed, and I'm pretty sure the rules still allow for things like dirty talk, spanking, oil on boobs/butt, etc, right? Like just as long as you're not sucking off a dildo or touching your pussy.

They aren't being clear about what is considered explicit.

Some definitions are that it is anything that is intended to create an orgasm, which would exclude literally everything I upload whether a photo, gif, video or audio.

I may remove my more overtly sexual content and leave some of my content up while I transition everyone to AVN but I'm expecting to be banned at any time after October. Just don't count on that money at all.

laurielegs
08-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the reply. Are you able to thread these PPV messages together like NF to make it a passive income funnel or is it like OF where you can only send one at a time?

That's a great idea. I guess you'd have to do it with the Post feature (which does accept gifs) and then put the link to the next inside the PPV. I may give it a try tomorrow and see if it will work that way like it does on Niteflirt.

They replied to my suggestion about adding gifs capability to messaging within a few hours and said they are forwarding my suggestion to the appropriate staff.

luna93
08-21-2021, 08:06 PM
That's a great idea. I guess you'd have to do it with the Post feature (which does accept gifs) and then put the link to the next inside the PPV. I may give it a try tomorrow and see if it will work that way like it does on Niteflirt.

They replied to my suggestion about adding gifs capability to messaging within a few hours and said they are forwarding my suggestion to the appropriate staff.

Oh, sick!!! Lmk!

laurielegs
08-21-2021, 09:19 PM
Thanks for the reply. Are you able to thread these PPV messages together like NF to make it a passive income funnel or is it like OF where you can only send one at a time?

I just tried it with my vanilla account, sending posts to my domme account, and I can't figure out how to do it. I tried to do it on Onlyfans also and the only way I can see to do it is to send the message manually.

I may contact support and see if they can provide us a way to do that - I'll see if I can explain to support how you can nest them together on NF. Passive income rocks and I do love setting up those PPV funnels on NF.

luna93
08-22-2021, 12:58 AM
I just tried it with my vanilla account, sending posts to my domme account, and I can't figure out how to do it. I tried to do it on Onlyfans also and the only way I can see to do it is to send the message manually.

I may contact support and see if they can provide us a way to do that - I'll see if I can explain to support how you can nest them together on NF. Passive income rocks and I do love setting up those PPV funnels on NF.

It take so much pressure off constantly having to pump out content. Thanks for looking out!

MissAdriana
08-22-2021, 03:44 PM
After seeing the tweets where they blatantly lied to so many models I can never trust anything they say again. What is the point in ever contacting them after that. So I will be removing all my explicit content for now and might just end up removing everything in time TBH because who even wants to give them a cut after treating us this way IDK

bootiebabe
08-23-2021, 10:03 AM
i just want to put my thoughts into this as i do so well with just being myself(no not millions)but have you girls not even thought of what would be like to being yourself would love to here from sam38g - its not all about porn - i feel you can still do well and show next to nothing its all about seduction - i am so bored now how its all effecting you - you seem to all be about $3 a month for x amount of videos and what ever a guy wants? - changed myself around and still bank every day - onlyfans have not done any of us wrong he banked and why the hell not i have never had to show a pic of my cunt and its not about beauty either its just about a fan site your subscriber from you should see a bit of normality why is it all about how many x rated videos for a sub YOU want to give those guys ?

Spemily
08-23-2021, 11:03 AM
i just want to put my thoughts into this as i do so well with just being myself(no not millions)but have you girls not even thought of what would be like to being yourself would love to here from sam38g - its not all about porn - i feel you can still do well and show next to nothing its all about seduction - i am so bored now how its all effecting you - you seem to all be about $3 a month for x amount of videos and what ever a guy wants? - changed myself around and still bank every day - onlyfans have not done any of us wrong he banked and why the hell not i have never had to show a pic of my cunt and its not about beauty either its just about a fan site your subscriber from you should see a bit of normality why is it all about how many x rated videos for a sub YOU want to give those guys ?

This is borderline incomprehensible, but from the little I could gather you seem to be slut shaming us. There's room for all kinds in this business, including non-nude performers, but we don't need your judgment and condescending attitude.

bootiebabe
08-23-2021, 11:25 AM
This is borderline incomprehensible, but from the little I could gather you seem to be slut shaming us. There's room for all kinds in this business, including non-nude performers, but we don't need your judgment and condescending attitude.
Not at all slut shaming no way at all am i doing that i just feel you can make money without the need for full on in your face pussy still a winner

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-23-2021, 11:37 AM
Not at all slut shaming no way at all am i doing that i just feel you can make money without the need for full on in your face pussy still a winner

This wasn't clear from your last post. So thanks for clearing that up. Right now I'm getting complaints from two different threads about you stirring up drama. I am asking that you please simmer down and be more mindful when you next post. Thank you.

Erika_Xstacy
08-23-2021, 01:24 PM
I continue to be amazed that people don’t think 3.00 measly dollars doesn’t turn over into a cpl or few thousand a month
It’s great residual income that is now lost. . I updated every 6months to roll out a new old cam show every other day, no PPV, no checking DM, no customs or Skype.
I didn’t log on daily unless I was pulling money, the lowest payout to pull out was twenty bucks so if a performer was living day by day she knew money would be in her Account.

I put all my clip sites in the dust after OF bc onlyfans didn’t require work when other sites require me to film a actual clip, edit and post and answer emails.
I can jumpstart those sites without a problem but the performers that put their all in will not have it as easy.


Since you are tired of the complaining… You can go into Twitter settings and mute the word onlyfans. You don’t have to read threads here marked onlyfans.
I get tired Of the Streamate thread and the years of the same complaints but I don’t say anything and I keep scrolling because I know someone is needing help or support from someone it’s just easier to scroll than it is to make a post about I’m tired of reading this

Sam38g
08-23-2021, 02:29 PM
i just want to put my thoughts into this as i do so well with just being myself(no not millions)but have you girls not even thought of what would be like to being yourself would love to here from sam38g - its not all about porn - i feel you can still do well and show next to nothing its all about seduction - i am so bored now how its all effecting you - you seem to all be about $3 a month for x amount of videos and what ever a guy wants? - changed myself around and still bank every day - onlyfans have not done any of us wrong he banked and why the hell not i have never had to show a pic of my cunt and its not about beauty either its just about a fan site your subscriber from you should see a bit of normality why is it all about how many x rated videos for a sub YOU want to give those guys ?


I changed my biz model away from hardcore years ago, even on cam most of my stuff is just topless & no toys. So it is possible to change gears & go more pg. It does take a while for your customer base to adapt or change with you.

Already totally on board for making men pay more to see less, but there will always be push back or guys who want more.
For me it is just a different hustle & trying to prove to myself that I can hustle in several different ways. One can always go that route & do Patreon or Youtube for that matter. Now my youtube doesn't make me big money, but with very little effort I do have a good following on there and always see it as a back up for when or if I want to give up porn. Which probably will be never.

Porn companies, banks & the world in general has always condemned us while either making money off of sex workers or just outright steal it. And society at large always thought we deserved to be abused & ripped off. So both OF & mastercard were totally caught off guard at the backlash & bad PR. Cause 2 million content creators got loud on social media, and our 130 million paying customers backed us up.

OF fucked up by not having a way & insisting on 2257, model releases & IDs on everyone in the vids or pics being uploaded. They know better cause the fucker has been in the porn biz forever & owns MFC. So Leo has zero excuses, it is a huge task to go back & make sure that all that is uploaded & moderate all the content on OF. He simply thought it was better to lie & push this off on Mastercard. Mastercard threw him under the bus & look like fools for falling for the outright lies the Christian groups are telling to get all porn deleted from the internet.

Then there is the fact major porn companies, lots of start ups & such all are in a race to get us all to migrate to their platforms. Leo has to be looking at that & shitting.

More likely we will all be able to do what we are now on OF cause Leo will not want to loose out on a billion dollars or more a year in profits. All this drama will be for nothing, other than we final have a voice & are on our way to having more rights & fighting discrimination a bit better.

While we have many options of platforms who want us, the major problem is that the fans love OF. The customers signed up to it like no other site before. Which even if it becomes PG & I will have a couple of back up sites similar to it, I will not be leaving it till they kick me off. Never had I had customers beg to spend money on me like they do there.

luna93
08-23-2021, 07:37 PM
Hey, does anyone know if Fansly shares EXIF data? Do I need to remove it?

Erika_Xstacy
08-23-2021, 08:40 PM
https://twitter.com/ErikaXstacy/status/1430003580753387525/photo/1

yall be careful.. click on the photo in that tweet

Spemily
08-24-2021, 11:29 AM
They are posting about the situation on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/friskvip

Hopefully, they aren't lying about their security procedures.

Sam38g
08-24-2021, 11:55 AM
OF founder Tim Stokely talking about how banks are shutting down OF ability to pay content creators
https://twitter.com/FT/status/1430163545287708676?s=20

Sam38g
08-25-2021, 05:10 AM
OF just put out a statement on Twitter
https://twitter.com/OnlyFans/status/1430499277302816773?s=20

OnlyFans
@OnlyFans
·
9m
Thank you to everyone for making your voices heard.

We have secured assurances necessary to support our diverse creator community and have suspended the planned October 1 policy change.

OnlyFans stands for inclusion and we will continue to provide a home for all creators.
__________________________________________________ __________________________

Looks like their attempt to kick us off & then go public failed and now time to save face. But there is plenty of competition out there, many different sites & platforms are stepping up their game. Personally, I will keep my OF cause my customers love that site but will be going hard on my solo site & several back ups just in case.

caramelcraze
08-25-2021, 11:00 AM
Idk about y’all, but after this morning’s statement I officially trust onlyfans as far as I can throw them… which is saying a lot because my shoulder currently has bursitis.

laurielegs
08-25-2021, 01:51 PM
Idk about y’all, but after this morning’s statement I officially trust onlyfans as far as I can throw them… which is saying a lot because my shoulder currently has bursitis.

Me either, but like Sam said, sites come and go. I don't trust any of them 100% and never will.

OnlyFans seems to be the place where I make the easiest fastest money and my fans all stayed through this whole thing so I'm going to stay for now. I make the majority of my money there through tips and custom clips.

Definltely going to build out my AVN more though and also am opening a clip store\fan site on fancentro. I want a backup plan fully in place. I'll just upload to them all at the same time, doesn't take me that much longer really.

MissAdriana
08-26-2021, 07:22 AM
Too little too late. They thought us leaving was all talk. I already acted and have been. I'll never be on just one website. No 1 website is going to give me anxiety about my livelihood ever. They disrespected us. And I do take that personally. Fool me once...

caramelcraze
08-27-2021, 04:17 PM
Can we get a class action lawsuit for emotional whiplash? :p

Learned the hard way many years ago never to be loyal to just one site. I have eggs in other baskets and always will.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6wrzNtysRLTCviko/giphy.gif

Victoria_Gray
08-30-2021, 12:59 AM
OnlyFans are holding my money and refusing to even tell me why.

Anyone else had this experience? Please help.

Victoria_Gray
08-30-2021, 01:20 AM
I like everyone else am pretty exhausted from OF's recent backflip.

AVN Stars was my backup, but I am kind of getting over them tbh. The only guys I get there are guys I directly asked to sign up after they hit me up everywhere else after originally seeing me on social. They just aren't all that popular.

I need to find another backup, but until I can I need OF to pay me what they owe me and with them holding my money for apparently no reason - they have not answered my emails from 2 days ago - I am stressed, and exhausted.

Vlodina
08-30-2021, 10:50 AM
Mmm I cashed out on the 25th and still don't have it....

laurielegs
08-30-2021, 12:01 PM
Mmm I cashed out on the 25th and still don't have it....

I cashed out on the 25th also. Mine credited to my bank in on the 27th.

Vlodina
08-30-2021, 01:06 PM
Aye, usually only takes a day or two, never this long, although it does say 3-5 days. Perhaps tomorrow.

Erika_Xstacy
08-30-2021, 04:04 PM
Aye, usually only takes a day or two, never this long, although it does say 3-5 days. Perhaps tomorrow.

is OF giving notice on the payout page?
i hit payout today. should receive it by weds morning but ill report back

Victoria_Gray
08-30-2021, 10:29 PM
My payouts are back, with no explanation about why they were gone.
Will let y'all know if they're delayed as yours have been.