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StormieKnight
08-18-2017, 01:35 PM
Sam38g, it's not racist, bullshit, and definitely not propaganda. It is a statistical fact that there are more impoverished black women than any other race. You don't think this spills over into sex work? Reality is ugly sometimes. There are women out here charging low rates with no upsale. Know how I know? Because I was one of them. I started at in adult work at 18. I'm in my late 20's now. First of all, I started out as an escort in a college town which let me tell you, is utter shit. Jobs were scarce, there are plenty of young people to fill the shitty minimum wage positions. Even those were hard to come by. I had no experience for higher positions. Escorting was the only thing accessible to me and there were a limited number of providers. It was still rough even with that! Pimps and other forms of predatory men love these areas as there are lots of young naive BROKE girls. I was never pimped but I've had a constant propositions and in the beginning few close run-ins. Then, most of your inquiries are coming from equally broke college boys and average Joe types. Nobody in my town really had money like that except for the government workers and politicians maybe transient business types too but I NEVER met with any. I assume they saw the lower volume high-end escorts. But the point is, I didn't have a lot of options. I had low rates not because I thought I was less desired but because I needed the money to eat and I needed it right then not 3 days later. Plain and simple.

Fast forward some years later, I'm doing better, more selective. I had a driver at the time and former escort Elle* She was the closest thing to a "friend" in the industry I ever had. She was telling me how she used to get $500 just to show up and then for the actual action she'd charge even more, then even more for more taboo acts. I was amazed and mad I was born in the wrong time!. I believe her glory days were the early 00s. I was still watching cartoons and growing into my looks at this time lol.

I could be completely wrong on this but I just can't imagine "just show up" prices flying these days. Men hate women more than ever and I've seen posts from you indicating you are also aware of this. There's just a lot of hate for women in general. This is amplified when it comes to sex workers. The risk is even higher among trans and black women. Imagine some dickhead thinks he's getting a quickie for $60 only to find out on arrival it is $160. You have to consider most women in this range are not screening. I sure as hell wasn't. With that business model, many sex workers would end up raped beaten and/or murdered. Shit, I've been abused for less, myself. Got robbed at gunpoint because this guy told me he got out of jail. I got scared and didn't want to meet him. I believe it was him that sent a buddy to rape and rob me. This year alone, in my city alone (Atlanta) two sex workers have been murdered, both black.One was only 19 ffs!I don't believe the reason is because they were upselling. I'm just saying this industry is already risky. I really cannot recommend this way of doing things, especially ones who are doing this to survive, who may not screening especially with an increasingly volatile male population. Sam, I'm speaking on what I have experienced and what I observe.

I really do think in most cases low rates or "specials" these days are for either a quick session or maybe a "lesser" action like covered oral or hand job. Again I could be wrong as I'm not in that space anymore, but I don't think so. Anyway, I stick by what I said. I encourage other black providers to the fullest. If you're escorting to supplement income or you're established or you have financial cushion some other way, please do screen as heavily as you require, please do raise your rates! But that wasn't the question. The question was, why do many black women NOT do this. My conclusion based on both life experience and observation? They are underprivileged in some way. It would be lovely if everyone could just come out the gate making bank but shit just doesn't always work that way. Hate to break it to you.

Sam38g
08-18-2017, 01:46 PM
There are so many white meth heads in America that it isn't even funny. Drug addiction & addicts are now most white older people hooked on pills. I do think it is racist & wrong what you are saying here.

Not ALL ads placed are by the people in them. Cause my pics have been used plenty of times for $100 specials bareback full service ads. NO< I don't believe those ads are all legit.

I don't believe shit when it comes to men & sex. I don't believe half the crap written on TER either.

Sure in the hell ain't going to believe the guys on cam telling me the prices & races of the sex industry. Most of them don't even leave their basements.

Nore do I think any of this has to do with making money on cam.

StormieKnight
08-18-2017, 02:26 PM
I said I think most are doing survival sex work to get out of poverty. I didn't say anything about addicts. I believe that was another poster. I have been around them too though. There's another population of people I just don't believe at all. They lie constantly. On that note, yeah I definitely don't believe every ad is real either. I'm sure some are fake. I have seen some instagram models even some up and coming celebrities supposedly with escort ads so I take that into account. And I'm sure some do as you say and upsell later. Absolutely,if you're browsing ads consider all of that and take it with a grain of salt. Some ads with low rates and specials are real though unfortunately. I'm only giving my take on why the ones that are real exist.

I don't believe anything any man says period online or offline when it comes to women and sex so I hear you. Too many bad experiences even outside of the sex industry. I can't even date men at this point. They're so full of it. Online review boards just make them worse with the little boy locker room crap. I refer to TER and the like as the shadowy place. I will never go there. There is a huge culture of abuse and it's triggering. I suppose it works for some women...until it doesn't.

Yeah camming is another animal entirely. I don't let hem dictate shit. Ever.I do think some of those same issues affect why a black cam model may not make as much though. It may not be her race in and of itself deterring guys from spending but maybe she is starting from next to nothing and can't invest in a good cam or high powered computer or lighting. To make it worse it's difficult for her to improve on these things BECAUSE she isn't making money on cam. It can be a shitty cycle like that in sex work, camming included. I was fortunate enough to have money saved up from escorting to start off with camming. I do think for those who can invest, treat it like a business, DONT LISTEN TO SHIT MEN SAY, great personality, so on can charge more and bank or at least do well regardless of race. Men will say anything for cheap pussy including racist things they themselves don't even believe.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 02:59 AM
Bullshit.

Its not bullshit. Racism is a political term do your research. Alot of ignorant ppl with a lack of knowledge in this thread exposing themselves. To be a racist you have to have the socioeconomic power to deprive an entire race basic rights in a society. Shelter, food, employment and reputation just to name a few as well as the power to affect public opinion about a race in a negative light. As a race black ppl as a whole currently do not have that type of power. Learn politics before you try to rebut me. Thanks.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 03:19 AM
Just to clarify... you believe men on a cam site & what they say is the truth.......................

LMAO So then all those marriage proposals were real?
What about all those millions promised to me over the years by men who never spent a dime on me on cam?

MEN LIE!

You don't know shit. How are you not banned when obviously, you are a man & not a real cam girl.

Men who cam don't buy cam shows because they can go & get laid for $50 to $100. If they can get fucked for that price, they'd be getting fucked rather than logging onto a cam site. Hookers who cost $100 are NOT my competition but they maybe yours.

Men with money, real money would NEVER see a gal who charged less than $300 per hour as an escort. Men who pay $50 to $100 are always looking to rip gals who charge that little off.

What I can tell, is you don't know shit about any part of the sex industry, the camming industry or the porn industry.

Lol I'm not going to argue with a woman who's breasts are about to explode and the silicone has obviously seeped into your brain cells. Youre boobs must be blocking your eyes and you didnt properly read most of what I said. Half of what you're ranting about has nothing to do with what I said. So either invest in a pair of glasses or reduce your boobs so you can see.

What I said was my ex husband(because i was actually married and not fake promised marriage because i was exposing my boobs. Twice actually and i left them both they didnt leave me but anyway....) told me that he had actual sex with a lady and paid under 100 bucks from an agency so I believe that some girls do it. I didnt say all.

I also said that it isnt smart to try to trick guys into bait and switch rates because some men expecting low rates are violent and from unsavory walks of life let's just say. So if you want to gamble with your life more than you already are then do you. If you want to praise an SW robbing someone do you.

But if you think YOU of all ppl can tell me what I know about the adult industry when I've been involved in one way or another since the 90's and seen all types of shyt go down and heard all types of stories and have avoided all types of unsavory personalities and situations then you need to really check yourself because you have no idea who you're talking to.

You're probably one of the females screwing for the low low and mad bcuz I called you out. I wouldnt put it past you while you're on here praising and laughing about an SW robbing ppl. You should be ashamed of yourself. That type of behavior is extremely unethical and another reason why ladies in the industry have a hard time now a days attracting quality clients. They dont want to get robbed by ppl like you. Thats why a lot of guys opt for web cam. BCUZ ITS OBVIOUSLY MUCH SAFER WITH PPL LIKE U IN THE INDUSTRY WHO THINKS ITS FUNNY FOR THEM TO GET ROBBED. You're whole mentality is disgusting honestly. ��

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 03:24 AM
You are going to school us on TER.............. funny

Please get out of the sex industry. You are a danger to yourself & other people with the stuff you write.

You think its funny for SW's to rob clients yet IM the danger? Lol oh ok. You gotta be high.

Anyway why do you keep addressing me? I was replying to the girl who appeared to not know she is most likely being reviewed on TER. Hence her statement "Im glad im not on TER..."

I was a TER reviewed lady way back in the day. And when I first started I didnt know I was being reviewed until someone gave me the heads up. So wtf is your problem exactly? Stop tagging me, you're an idiot. Everything I said is fact and will remain fact. Why you so mad tho? ��

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 03:45 AM
About the only thing I agree on is no lady should be charging under 300 if they truly want quality clients. Really ladies now a days should be seeking arrangements or at the very least solid regulars. Just for the safety and mileage reduction factor.

But the reality is most ladies dont have that luxery. Especially new ladies starting up unless they are extremely unique or beautiful(and sometimes it even takes those types awhile) or just lucky/fortunate.

Not only is SW a competitive sport but the ratio of women to men is much higher. Meaning there are a lot more ladies than quality clients. Great for the men seeking variety, not so great for the ladies seeking quality and a low revolving door.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 03:53 AM
What I can tell, is you don't know shit about any part of the sex industry, the camming industry or the porn industry.

And what I can tell is you're either an idiot, high or both. You're a bad judge of character and partially illiterate.

I know a whole hell of alot about the industry. Was in it in the 90's-2000's, left and had a REAL life, then a couple of awesome SD's to where I didnt have to deal with the rat race. Then came back as a cam model and have been able to create a whole business from it going on three years and still going. So your poor attempts at insulting me are nothing but Dust and totally ridiculous. Youre obviously not smart enough for that so stop trying. Just let your boobs keep getting you by and stop tryna waste your energy on trying to make your brain form some type of logic because that's clearly Not your talent. Lol smh bye. ����

Djoser
08-19-2017, 04:30 AM
Its not bullshit. Racism is a political term do your research. Alot of ignorant ppl with a lack of knowledge in this thread exposing themselves. To be a racist you have to have the socioeconomic power to deprive an entire race basic rights in a society. Shelter, food, employment and reputation just to name a few as well as the power to affect public opinion about a race in a negative light. As a race black ppl as a whole currently do not have that type of power. Learn politics before you try to rebut me. Thanks.


it is emphatically bullshit.

Learn to read and write, as well as research the correct meaning of words you are throwing around, before you try to rebut me. Thanks.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/racism

"1. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism

3: : racial prejudice or discrimination"

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 04:41 AM
it is emphatically bullshit.

Learn to read and write, as well as research the correct meaning of words you are throwing around, before you try to rebut me. Thanks.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/us/racism

"1. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b : a political or social system founded on racism

3: : racial prejudice or discrimination"

If you're going to use google to search definitions try going further than the primary school level section of definitions and use the etymology of the word before you try to counter me. As I said:

racism
[rey-siz-uh m]
noun
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior >>>>>>>and has the right to dominate others<<<<<<<< or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
>>>>>>>a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.<<<<<<<<<

Learn how to search past the First definition you see on google and do Real research.

P.s. even in your own copy paste confirms what I said. Black ppl do not have the power to be Racist. Racism is an Act that is enforced. To Be racist there has to be an Action behind it.

Djoser
08-19-2017, 04:52 AM
And what I can tell is you're either an idiot, high or both. You're a bad judge of character and partially illiterate.

Judging by your own lack of writing skill, this statement is inherently absurd.


...and had a REAL life...

So people in the adult industry are just imagining their lives? Seems pretty real to me.



Lol I'm not going to argue with a woman who's breasts are about to explode and the silicone has obviously seeped into your brain cells. Youre boobs must be blocking your eyes and you didnt properly read most of what I said. Half of what you're ranting about has nothing to do with what I said. So either invest in a pair of glasses or reduce your boobs so you can see.



Anyway why do you keep addressing me? ...you're an idiot.



She has the right to address anyone posting anywhere on this forum. Though she does not have the right to insult members, as you have just done here several times.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 04:54 AM
Racism is an Act. In order to be racist you have to have the power to deprive someone of something on a socio-economic level based solely on their race. I'm not sure what you do not understand about that, but its basic fact and knowledge for anyone dealing with any type of social or political environment. It can be debated all day but the facts do not change.

Now if you want to say a SW is racist because she deprived a client of you know what, I guess you can laughably debate that she is 'racist' but was he really deprived on any real level that will affect his life or means of survival? Hardly, lol.

Djoser
08-19-2017, 05:14 AM
Black ppl do not have the power to be Racist. Racism is an Act that is enforced. To Be racist there has to be an Action behind it.


Bullshit.


They absolutely have the power to be racist, and many thousands of them use it every day--as in fact you have done earlier in this thread, with your pathetic attempts to convince us of black genetic superiority.

The fact that whites outnumber the blacks in the USA, and have more political/economic power to actually apply racism in action, does NOT mean that blacks--or other downtrodden minorities--are actually incapable of racism, or that they have no possible method for actually applying their own racism against whites, hispanics, asians, or other groups.

That notion is fucking absurd.

There are other methods of action besides those employed by governmental agencies or white-owned businesses. At a party, in a nightclub, at the store, driving or walking down the street, in any number of places and situations, people who operate under an erroneous idea of genetic superiority, or the supposed genetic inferiority of other races, are fully capable of making that invalid belief known, or otherwise harassing other racial groups, in any number of ways. Not even getting into criminal behavior.

There was also a time lasting many hundreds of years, well before the Age of Imperialism, when whites were regularly enslaved by other races. But even without that bit of inconvenient history, your ridiculous premise fails utterly.


;D

Djoser
08-19-2017, 05:18 AM
Racism is an Act.

Bullshit.

It's a belief system, which may or may not be put into action, with varying degrees of efficacy. By individuals, groups of people, or organizations.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 05:24 AM
Judging by your own lack of writing skill, this statement is inherently absurd.



So people in the adult industry are just imagining their lives? Seems pretty real to me.








She has the right to address anyone posting anywhere on this forum. Though she does not have the right to insult members, as you have just done here several times.

Well being that I was Responding to her insults who's right and who's wrong here? Yet you're defending her simply because I countered your argument and you disagree with me.

I am college educated dear with a 3.8 GPA in English Literature. However I am also typing from a phone to a message board not writing an essay for a grade. I finished college with honors. So what exactly is your point? I'm not trying to prove anything here to anyone I'm just speaking facts.

My life is very real as well. But all ladies should take a break sometimes and experience life outside the industry. Love, relationships and maybe even children at least once in their life. I think the adult industry is awesome and challenging in a good way. It allows women to be open with our sexuality and creative. But we should also tread carefully and consider our safety above everything else. Also consider the mentality of the ppl we expose ourselves to. So taking time out for a Real life and not simply a life of sexual performance is important. But to each their own. If I didnt enjoy it I wouldn't have come back. I learned I prefer it over married life actually and I did have the option to choose.

What she did was try to attack everything I said(kind of like what you're doing) simply because she was angry yet there was no logic to her comment referring to TER because I was letting the girl know that she was probably on there as it appeared she thought she was not.

Anyway, you all can clique up on me if you want to. But I stand behind everything I said because its the truth. I understand some ppl have a problem with truths because it makes them uncomfortable. It is what it is.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 05:31 AM
Bullshit.

It's a belief system, which may or may not be put into action, with varying degrees of efficacy. By individuals, groups of people, or organizations.

The fact that you even said " 'may or may not' be put into action" by design negates black ppl from the equation because black ppl Do Not have the option to deprive a whole racial or ethnic group. So exactly what "action" would black ppl be enforcing by simply disliking someones race? That is called "prejudice" not racism. Smh

Djoser
08-19-2017, 05:38 AM
The fact that you even said " 'may or may not' be put into action" by design negates black ppl from the equation because black ppl Do Not have the option to deprive a whole racial or ethnic group. So exactly what "action" would black ppl be enforcing by simply disliking someones race? That is called "prejudice" not racism. Smh

See above. There are all manner of ways for groups of people to deprive each other of life, material goods, a sense of pride, the freedom to walk down the street without getting the living shit kicked out of you, etc. The government does not have to be involved for this to be so.

But I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you.




Anyway, you all can clique up on me if you want to. But I stand behind everything I said because its the truth. I understand some ppl have a problem with truths because it makes them uncomfortable. It is what it is.

With all due respect to your academic achievements, I was responding to your earlier (racist) assertions that blacks are somehow racially superior to whites. And your extremely limited definition of racism as being only applicable to governmental policy.

I was also replying to your calling Sam an 'idiot' and making jokes about her breast size. Trust me, we are not in the same clique, and she might even take offense to my bringing it up to you.


Anyway I see no further point in going back & forth over semantics. We can all agree that racism, in all its manifestations, and regardless of which races are victimized, is an evil belief system and/or institution.

Have good day. Try to be nice to people. I will do the same.

Summer Meadows
08-19-2017, 06:17 AM
Bullshit.


They absolutely have the power to be racist, and many thousands of them use it every day--as in fact you have done earlier in this thread, with your pathetic attempts to convince us of black genetic superiority.

The fact that whites outnumber the blacks in the USA, and have more political/economic power to actually apply racism in action, does NOT mean that blacks--or other downtrodden minorities--are actually incapable of racism, or that they have no possible method for actually applying their own racism against whites, hispanics, asians, or other groups.

That notion is fucking absurd.

There are other methods of action besides those employed by governmental agencies or white-owned businesses. At a party, in a nightclub, at the store, driving or walking down the street, in any number of places and situations, people who operate under an erroneous idea of genetic superiority, or the supposed genetic inferiority of other races, are fully capable of making that invalid belief known, or otherwise harassing other racial groups, in any number of ways. Not even getting into criminal behavior.

There was also a time lasting many hundreds of years, well before the Age of Imperialism, when whites were regularly enslaved by other races. But even without that bit of inconvenient history, your ridiculous premise fails utterly.


;D

I don't have to do the convincing, the fact that I look younger than half of my age is proof enough, lol. I said we have better genetics, I said nothing about general Superiority. This is scientific fact. The simple fact that melatonin is bottled and sold for general heath purposes plus other inconceivable amounts of evidence proves this fact. There is even a book written by a European doctor about a black woman who was used as research and the doctor discovered that her genetics could cure almost every known disease or ailment, particularly ones found in white folk. And also the fact that if you were to research the topic of organ harvesting, you would discover that the organs of melanated ppl are highest on the list of priority and that when Haiti had their hurricane crisis that business had a Major Boom speaks of this fact as well.

I am very educated and I do not believe blacks are "better than whites" or any race is "better" simply because of their race. That wasn't the point I was making, so sorry if your ego made you miss my point. I was addressing someone with an inferiority complex due to their social conditioning that having melanin was a detriment when Really it is a blessing! By design of the human body having more melanin is a benefit.

And actually I have admitted during the conversation concerning racism that whites have socio-economic Superiority, now didn't I? And how has my view(knowledge) of genetics and melanated people being more genetically fortunate affected your livelihood today? I'll wait.... 'crickets'. Oh ok, lol.

Whites(some) have a need to feel superior because your genetics aren't on the level of melanated people. Which is understandable. So, you're mad because you want the social power AND the Better genetics? So you just want it all huh? Selfish much.

In the USA? Lol, you do know that North America can fit into Africa alone more than four times don't you? Then to add the other continents that have been historically dominated by melanated people... And I'm speaking of origins not colonization.... You do remember that melanated people originated on the land of the United States before whites murdered.. *cough*, I mean 'colonized' this country right?

Anyhow, I don't intend to get into a long drawn out historical debate with you, because we will undoubtedly have conflicting information based on what we have individually learned and experienced in our lives. Whether it be thru life itself, books we've Chosen to read or what have you. I spent years(about ten years consistently) learning and researching African and American history and culture and committed myself to it. I also obtained a degree in college based around the legal system and graduated with honors. So lets just say I know a little something.

I judge the quality of people based on their character, not their race or how much melanin they poses, lets just make that clear. I was just pointing out how this society has twisted humans into thinking that a quality that is an actual health benefit is some type of curse or lowers the quality of a human being when it is just the opposite in all reality. But at the end of the day you can take it how you want. But I do most definitely prefer my own men. Preferring your own doesn't equal hating anyone else. Another thing alot of whites so ignorantly and arrogantly assume.

arielbriel
08-20-2017, 10:00 PM
Willow, "melenated" is not a word and I believe the word you were looking for was "melanin", not "melatonin". Melatonin is the sleep hormone we produce that yes can be bought at the drugstore.

miss.a.p1600
08-20-2017, 10:31 PM
I think she was referring to "tanning pills"......pills that contain tyrosine which stimulates melanin.

"Melenated" appears to be a slang term as I can only find the definition in slang dictionary.

jack0177057
08-21-2017, 09:58 AM
On the issue of whether Black people can be racist:

When I lived in Spanish Harlem in NYC, my neighborhood was like 98% Black and Latino, but, we had a few white guys, and sometimes they got bullied or jumped just for the color of their skin... that IS RACISM! I've also seen racism between oppressed groups, like Blacks vs. Latinos or either of them vs. Asian, etc. The definition of racism is: " a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race" or "racial prejudice or discrimination" - Merriam-Webster

On the issue of white pride:

Can white people be proud of their culture? Sure! When a white person says they are proud to be Irish, Italian, Greek, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, German (minus the Nazi thing), Brittish, Scottish, Welsh, whatever,... most people see nothing wrong with this.

But, when a white person says they are proud to be "white" that raises red flags.

White is not a culture. Europe is composed of many different cultures that have been fiercely warring with each other from time immemorial until the end of WWII. Before modern Europe came into existence, white people were composed of groups like Romans, Greeks, Celts, Vikings, Anglo Saxons, etc. They fought brutally with each other and the losing side was raped, pillaged and enslaved. After the fall of the mighty Roman Empire (that had brutally conquered nearly all of Europe), the modern European countries formed out of the rubble; countries like England, France, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc. These countries then fought each other violently for centuries over dominance in Europe until WWII. So, if you say you're proud to be white, you ignore that white is not one culture, but, many cultures that have been at war with each other for centuries; that have fought, pillaged, raped and oppressed one another.

Even in the U.S. white cultures clash. During the wave of Irish immigration in the 1840s, it was common to see signs that read, "Help wanted. Irish people need not apply." White Anglo Saxon Protestants treated the Irish with contempt. Then, there was anti-Italian bigotry during the Italian wave of immigration... same with Polish,...the Jews and every other newcomer, etc. It's funny that the children of these different white cultures (except the Jews) feel proud to be "white" - which "white"?

"White supremacist" conveniently ignore these complexities, because, they are ignorant and because all they want to do is build an artificial classification system of whites vs. non-whites.

miss.a.p1600
08-21-2017, 11:40 AM
*I don't not condone extremists, hate crimes, or violence against innocent people of any race/ethnicity/culture*

I find your example of Blacks being racist as fear mongering and perpetuating the stereotype of Blacks as violent and people who Whites should fear.

Did you poll these thugs after the fight and ask them "hey thug what was your reasoning for beating up that guy?" You should provide a link to the news report to confirm the truth to said hate crime.

I'm not negatating your story or possible hate crimes however, Anyone and I mean Anyone who sticks out like a sore thumb looking like they don't belong is a target in the hood. I know Blacks from the suburbs that got jacked Rolling casually through the hood.

That example still has nothing to do with systematic oppression and the reasons black women are charging lower than other races.

And why are men who are not black or mixed black females / escorts and who are not providing solutions even distracting from the topic of the thread???

The topic is black women charging too low due to a multitude of factors and how they can place themselves on the same playing field as their Asian, European, etc. sisters.

jack0177057
08-21-2017, 12:12 PM
I find your example of Blacks being racist as fear mongering and perpetuating the stereotype of Blacks as violent and people who Whites should fear.

You completely missed the point. It was an example to show that Black and Latinos can also be racist. These thugs were my friends and classmates.

When I lived in the ghetto, I was also racist (against whites). Everything I ever heard about white people was negative - like how they oppressed us, how they have everything while we live in roach-infested projects, how they will always discriminate against us to keep us down, etc. It was easy to become racist. It starts with feeling bad about yourself and your condition; feeling shame. Then, someone says to you that all your problems are caused by a certain group of people. It is convenient to blame other for your suffering. You replace feelings of shame with feelings of indignation... Then anger... Then hate.

When I moved to Long Island, I met white people for the first time. Some were clearly racist, but, others were very nice and not at all like the vile monsters I thought they were.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-21-2017, 12:16 PM
I wish I could pause this thread for a moment. But its not my section so I don't have those functions. I don't want this topic to get deleted because people are getting triggered and aren't listening.

miss.a.p1600
08-21-2017, 12:56 PM
You completely missed the point. It was an example to show that Black and Latinos can also be racist. These thugs were my friends and classmates.

When I lived in the ghetto, I was also racist (against whites). Everything I ever heard about white people was negative - like how they oppressed us, how they have everything while we live in roach-infested projects, how they will always discriminate against us to keep us down, etc. It was easy to become racist. It starts with feeling bad about yourself and your condition; feeling shame. Then, someone says to you that all your problems are caused by a certain group of people. It is convenient to blame other for your suffering. You replace feelings of shame with feelings of indignation... Then anger... Then hate.

When I moved to Long Island, I met white people for the first time. Some were clearly racist, but, others were very nice and not at all like the vile monsters I thought they were.

Well if you have an example can you demonstrate with some facts? A link to a credible news source? Etc?

I agree I do believe there are non white supremacists/extremists. And I also think those people are mentally ill.

I also think that if people play blame game or get stuck in victim role it prevents individuals from taking action to improve their circumstances.

jack0177057
08-21-2017, 03:51 PM
Well if you have an example can you demonstrate with some facts?

A white dude getting bullied or jumped in Harlem is not going to make news. If you don't believe me, grab your nearest white boy and take him deep into the heart of Harlem (the housing projects, the basketball courts, etc.). Someone is going to say something racial to him.


I agree I do believe there are non white supremacists/extremists. And I also think those people are mentally ill.

I also think that if people play blame game or get stuck in victim role it prevents individuals from taking action to improve their circumstances.

That's what I'm saying. We can always find something or someone to blame - that's too easy.

But, getting back to the subject of this thread. The point I made before is that there is NO good reason for a Black woman to charge too low. I think the time is now to Black women to showcase their beauty and class.

RobynMathena
04-14-2019, 09:20 AM
It seems to me, that the color doesn't influence on speed. So if you started from the part connected to this, you are welcome to be here with the person that is so, as you.