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PixiieGirl
07-18-2017, 03:43 AM
I wonder how this will effect Twitter, if at all, there is (as we know) a lot of porn on there. Im confused, are we protecting kids from all porn or just the porn that is for sale?
just before the election May announced wanting to look into fining social media that dont do enough to hide explicit content - however with how the election went I'd imagine that's been shelved for now

maybe commercial is referring to sites that use payment processors? idk this is the first I've seen of the "commercial" wording to - and I dont understand why it'd apply to porn sites but not social media

Magical_Hoohah
07-18-2017, 07:15 AM
I wonder if "commercial" could also be read to mean "deriving income from offering porn," in which case it would include free tube sites that profit from advertising dollars?

I suspect they need to tread a little carefully and not offer up threats that they can't deliver. It may have dawned on the UK government that they don't have a large enough stick to force all the porn in the world to age verify. For example, if PornHub is a non-UK site, and most of their advertising revenue comes from non-UK advertisers, there's only so much the UK can do to hurt them. Forcing all the UK ISPs to block PH would hurt PH much less than trying to age verify all their viewers. The government may want to limit their scope now, so when people realize that there's still plenty of minor-accessible porn in the world, they can excuse themselves by saying that they were only targeting a certain portion of the porn market.

In any case, this seems like a great time to be a VPN provider catering to the UK.

DancesWithSloths
07-18-2017, 07:43 AM
I wonder if "commercial" could also be read to mean "deriving income from offering porn," in which case it would include free tube sites that profit from advertising dollars?

I'd be astonished if the "free to consumers, supported by advertising & data brokering" model wasn't included on the "commercial basis". Otherwise, you'd come out with a claim that the free daily paper or the Yellow Pages or indeed Google aren't commercial.

Classy_Katy
07-18-2017, 08:13 AM
VPN won't help though for those who want to pay for a service, if they can block bank/card payments to those sites.

PixiieGirl
07-18-2017, 10:24 AM
VPN won't help though for those who want to pay for a service, if they can block bank/card payments to those sites.
this is the most annoying thing I think, it's more likely to harm people paying rather than freeloaders v.v - although I imagine a lot of the big sites will be working to comply, I know MV and C4S as well as Indiebill are looking at what they need to do to comply (I emailed them all when the bill passed)

Sally Says
07-19-2017, 01:38 AM
I just can't see how its going to work to do the thing that they want it to do? Surely its easier and cheaper to educate parents?

Classy_Katy
07-19-2017, 04:20 AM
I just can't see how its going to work to do the thing that they want it to do? Surely its easier and cheaper to educate parents?

None of the changes they have made or are making, are anything to do with what they say they are for. They are taking control of the internet as much as possible and our Civil Liberties are being eroded in many ways.

SuperPookie
07-21-2017, 04:21 PM
I ended up seeing no benefit from this at all

SuperPookie
07-21-2017, 04:25 PM
^^tried 3 times to delete my above post as this wasn't the thread I intended to put it in but I couldn't so please ignore it:)

Sam38g
07-21-2017, 08:02 PM
Read somewhere there is an app for phones around it, but not computers. Kids in the middle east & china already use it & are around it in a minute or less.

We fret, but kids are so smart & nimble. Have it figured out & can use their phones to watch porn anyways.

By the law is enacted a solution will be in place. Goverments are mainly made up by men. How long are any of them going without porn?
Some company will come up with a solution. There will be big money in coming up with the solution. At first it will be horrible & expensive, a bit of blow back for it too. Then it will improve, competition hits the market.

One thing we can count on is men's sex drives & ingenuity to satisfy that need. A horny man will figure it the fuck out & all will be good.

Teddy_Bear
07-21-2017, 11:33 PM
This age verification doesn't worry me because as Sam said above horny men will always find a way to jerk it to their favourite girl law or no law. Plus the richest people in the world make a lot of their fortune off our 'poor' pussies ;) they ain't going to lose out just because of a few jobsworths in politics.

Plus how many politicians do you think pull their todger to us? Porn ain't going anywhere.

LolaLu
03-05-2018, 10:49 AM
Pornhub's owner reveals its age verification tool for the UK

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/HA0K3zauFIMYPNPU2

JaneBurgess
03-27-2018, 03:41 PM
There isnt a way around it, they made sure of that https://rightsinfo.org/privacy-porn-digital-economy-act-explained Cam sites are going to have to put up splash pages or ban any nudity in free chat if they want to keep the UK members

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-27-2018, 03:57 PM
There isnt a way around it, they made sure of that https://rightsinfo.org/privacy-porn-digital-economy-act-explained Cam sites are going to have to put up splash pages or ban any nudity in free chat if they want to keep the UK members

Not in your wildest dreams will nudity be banned in free chat. The biggest concern right now for the major companies is whether or not MindGeek will exploit their power as the new gatekeepers of adult content. https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/03/pornhub-owner-reveals-age-verification-tool-for-uk/

JaneBurgess
03-27-2018, 05:21 PM
Not in your wildest dreams will nudity be banned in free chat. The biggest concern right now for the major companies is whether or not MindGeek will exploit their power as the new gatekeepers of adult content. https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/03/pornhub-owner-reveals-age-verification-tool-for-uk/

It should be banned if you cant verify the age of the viewers. If cam sites dont think they will be cracked down on they are wrong.

kortneykay
03-27-2018, 08:21 PM
They're probably just going to bring back those 'screens' and have us all behind a pay wall.

HaydenBlue
03-28-2018, 01:13 AM
They're probably just going to bring back those 'screens' and have us all behind a pay wall.

If this can reduce free chat on big box sites I'm all for it. With this push back that's going to hurt indie / skype I'm dreading going back to big box streaming.

PixiieGirl
03-28-2018, 01:34 AM
If this can reduce free chat on big box sites I'm all for it. With this push back that's going to hurt indie / skype I'm dreading going back to big box streaming.
thats my concern, anyone with their own indie site is gonna have to pay mindgeek to use their age verification software, it's like in theory it's good but are sites going to pay out or will they just block the UK?

not to mention how bloody difficult it'll be to enforce, how many explicit sites are there on the internet? the government are gonna have a hard time checking them all for compliance

Blovely
03-28-2018, 01:45 AM
thats my concern, anyone with their own indie site is gonna have to pay mindgeek to use their age verification software, it's like in theory it's good but are sites going to pay out or will they just block the UK?

not to mention how bloody difficult it'll be to enforce, how many explicit sites are there on the internet? the government are gonna have a hard time checking them all for compliance

They'll probably create a software to filter all the sites.

PixiieGirl
03-28-2018, 01:58 AM
They'll probably create a software to filter all the sites.

I guess maybe thats what they're working on and why the bill coming into action has been pushed back?

JaneBurgess
03-29-2018, 04:47 PM
They're probably just going to bring back those 'screens' and have us all behind a pay wall.

I wouldnt mind that or make free chat just a non nude area. It would get rid of the freeloaders which would be an excellent thing

CatBBW
10-16-2019, 08:29 AM
GOOD NEWS!! This nonsense has been DROPPED... "The government has dropped a plan to use strict age verification checks to stop under-18s viewing porn online. It said the policy, which was initially set to launch in April 2018, would "not be commencing" after repeated delays, and fears it would not work."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50073102

Kristen_Krystal
10-16-2019, 01:38 PM
I don't think it's good news at all. It's the tube sites that are the real problem & I hate that they are even allowed to exist. I don't think hard-core porn should be available to view for free & I totally understand why most parents would be horrified if the caught their child viewing whats on these tube sites.

It's a total farce how the UK Government has dealt with this.

LolaLu
10-16-2019, 01:48 PM
It was never about children and that was all a line to get the bill passed through. It was always about controlling what people could and couldn't watch.
There are ways to stop underage people watching tube sites, parents are just ignorant and don't want to parent responsibly

Classy_Katy
10-16-2019, 10:29 PM
Something else is going to replace it...we need to keep an eye on that.

PixiieGirl
10-17-2019, 02:01 AM
I don't think it's good news at all. It's the tube sites that are the real problem & I hate that they are even allowed to exist. I don't think hard-core porn should be available to view for free & I totally understand why most parents would be horrified if the caught their child viewing whats on these tube sites.

It's a total farce how the UK Government has dealt with this.
Mindgeek (the owner of 90% of those sites) had created the software to do the checks with - the tube sites we all hate where set to make a ton of money from it, there’s a reason mindgeek lobbied for it and it was nothing to do with kids