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DonaDiabla
06-28-2017, 11:25 PM
Someoldnoob,
Actually, men of color are coming out more as cuckolds and they have "white bull" breeding fantasies for their wives or girlfriends. There are also the "Queen of Hearts" community who are black, Latina, and Asian women who worship young white men completely. Then there is the "white breeding" community where women of color want white men to knock them up, take of their babies, and plan the whole thing.Then there is the "Queen of Spades" community that includes white cuckholds, black masters, and the young white women that love both of them. Those are just the "soft" race playing fetishes to be honest. There is soft raceplay, middle raceplay, and super extreme raceplay. It is a lot about raceplay. :)


Very interesting POV here! I haven't had many MOC desire to be racially humiliated, just white guys claiming to be black (I can tell by how they refer to themselves and get super defensive) though in PSO, did have a couple white guys wanting to be humiliated for being white... I supposed I was too new to understand that would be in the raceplay category. I also won't do it on cams, mostly because I have a feeling these will end up on the tube sites as a way to "expose" me for being white blonde racist cam model and it's not even worth the risk. If I were a Hollywood actress and it was less risky for me to perform these roles, I'd have a different perspective, but certainly not as a marginalized performer whose performances are hardly seen as acting.

You've opened my mind now to look into the black men who want white men cuckholding. Could probably use brushing up on fetish speak, as it is..

I was really afraid to read this thread, but am surprised by some of the differences and similarities between various sex work jobs and how we perform fetishes differently. I get called "snowflake" or "snow white" on cams a lot, but it's not an offensive slur, so while I suspect it's one of these white guys mad in their feelings, (still doubtful) or actually a MOC, I see it as a very sad attempt to troll and harass women online because :teacher: they simply refuse to comprehend historical violence against black women and women of color and think somehow they're trying to "level" some field, as if the way to do that is through making up new meaningless words instead of changing institutionalized violence. :yawn:

Off-topic Side Note: I wish there were a way for all the "free" stolen content sites to be shut down for a week so the only option was to pay current performers, that way these fools could have some kind of wake-up call to how valuable our labor and performances really are. What Napster did to the music industry doesn't compare to what TubeSites and "free" stolen content sites have done to the adult entertainment industry and its performers. I wonder when (if) our time will come. These guys who try to degrade us while we're live-streaming need their entitlement taken away, even just a taste of it. :scull:

someoldnoob
06-29-2017, 04:47 AM
Awesome knowledge bomb right there! Thanks a million for that!

Teddy_Bear
06-29-2017, 08:42 PM
I give the guy what he wants within my limits, if that happens to be racial humiliation then yes I am happy to do that however I wouldn't start spouting racial slurs to an unwilling participant and that's the difference as far as I'm concerned. I don't think it makes me racist any more than when guys mention that I'm white during shows as that gets them off.

I do find that black guys like racial humiliation during C2C and I also find that guys can get off to some weird stuff - case in point the other day I had a long-ass exclusive of the guy just wanting me to scream at him to die. Nothing else no nakedness just 'humiliation' in the sense of he didn't deserve to live etc.

It's simply another fetish and one that a lot of us indulge in. Now if we spout that crap in the streets to unwilling participants or kick the crap out of people BECAUSE of their race, then that is indeed racist. Satisfying a guys fetish in cyberspace no I don't think that is racist at all.

Personal beliefs are what make us racist and I don't think I am superior or inferior to anybody due to race or any other reason, we are all equal. I have the right to humiliate a guy that's requested it and he has the right to request it - doesn't get much more equal than that.

Sam38g
06-30-2017, 07:14 PM
There is some money that I am willing to leave on the table.

SPH, cuckholding & money pigs doesn't bother me because men hold 90% of the world's wealth & men have & still do rape, molest & beat women. Way to many of them cheat, lie & hurt women in the name of they are a man & their fragile egos. Quiet frankly, feel like they deserve it.

The difference with race play is those terms have a history of real violence & death. Even after reading the replies in defense of doing it, is not enough for me to justify it to myself at this point in history.

Words do matter.
I also refuse at this point to let men call me whore, slut, cum dumpster & such. Have plenty of customers whom I make money off without dealing with that type too.

I'm over the racism & sexism when I work, on social media & definitely in politics & life. It is being used on purpose in porn to marginalize all of us & have our Civil Rights taken away here in America.

intheshadows
07-01-2017, 03:10 AM
THANK YOU FOR THIS THREAD!!!!! As a white person who ACTUALLY only has ever been with black men (and they are obviously my preference), I once decided to try 'BBC findom'... I felt terrible, because I felt like I was fetishizing them, which is NOOOOT something I do NOR condone in real life...

maddiebabe
07-01-2017, 11:11 AM
My question is how the fuck is this racial shit even a fetish, and why is it even sexualized? boggles my mind.

I guess probably because the world for the most part is still deeply divided and so much shit is tabboo. But I just find it so bizarre.

I'm not even talking about you're a _____ and prefer _____ . I don't even know how to explain it. It's so weird I won't lie. I just confused myself trying to understand why or how.

takiaya
07-01-2017, 05:26 PM
I'm not comfortable doing these shows or clips. But I attempt it in the very rare show or video clip that gets ordered for it. It's whatever. If I put too much thought into what would offend someone else not involved in my shows or ordered then I would never get any fetish shows or videos done and that's where the majority of my money comes from.

Sam38g
07-02-2017, 08:20 AM
A major black male talent walked off of a set yesterday. He just couldn't take it anymore. Stated for years he kept his head down & took it for the money, hoping one day he'd get scenes without those words.

It affects others & really just isn't for that particular customer you are catering too. All this stuff eventually ends up on tubesites.

miss.a.p1600
07-02-2017, 08:48 AM
Like Sam mentioned the fact that your private session could end up public makes it waaay more risky and harmful. It's one thing for mutual consent (which either party can revoke at anytime) of a private session but Public humiliation is taking it too far.

If you know your private sessions can end up public and you do nothing to prevent this or at least warn your customer beforehand then you're doing a disservice.

I think the ladies doing this fetish by phone are safer? Are phone sessions as pirated as cam sessions?

That and say for example I'm a racist with no/low paying job. What kind of work would I do that I enjoy and can get paid? Hmmm maybe I'll sign up and get paid to racially humiliate men.

I don't believe all ladies who do this are bonafide racists but I do believe there are bonafide racists working this fetish. And I do think it would be easier to become a racist if you stay in this field simply because you're repeating slurs, talking about negative stereotypes over and over and this repetition will eventually sink into your subconscious mind.

I googled racial humiliation and came up on a blog with a woman degrading black people mostly black men. And she's on nite flirt. Just from looking I'd have a hard time believing 1) she's not truely racist 2) she's not getting off on this herself though she claims it's for the customers pleasure.

It's a slippery slope for sure.

Men have been known to take fantasy/acting as real. Even look at Heath Ledger - although he was acting, the shit got so real for him he eventually committed suicide.

All I know is if you're not racist as you claim then take care to ensure you're not going past the point of no return. There is no way to check your clients aren't feeling emotionally abused after the session unless they confirm themselves they are okay.

Don't take this powerful position you're in lightly. It's taboo and high paying for a reason.

Sam38g
07-02-2017, 10:09 AM
In movies when paid actors do it. It is to show how horrible & damaging it is to other human beings. In porn, well, we aren't.
You are protected under the 1st Amendment in the U.S. to do it.

PrettyPuppet
07-03-2017, 01:54 AM
I only had one racial humiliation cam chat when I was camming more often. It was a black man who went c2c, but he had to type because his wife was in the other room. I didn't know I was also on mute at the time.

It started as a regular show, just stripping and teasing. Then he told me to call him the n word. I was startled to say the least.

I'm white, but I live in the ghetto and listen to real rap so occasionally I say 'slur' while rapping along to something or just in average conversation with people who also talk like that. They realize that when I'm saying it that way it's just me saying something like 'homie' and they don't see it as any different than a black person saying it. I have white friends who say 'slur' more than black people I know who never say it. That being said, I've never called anyone an actual n**er (I think the hard r is what changes the meaning behind the word into an insult) and never think anything negative about any races. Literally the only generalized thought I have about black men is that they're usually attractive.

So this guy had been nice and I didn't know what to do. I was worried I was being filmed. I whispered the word. Then he told me he wanted me to type to him because I was on mute. He wanted me to call him dirty n***er and talk about how I'd never have sex with him because of the color of his skin. I had a moral battle the entire time, but I followed through with his request and he was happy with the show and came back once more. He was really sweet when we talked. After the show I felt kind of bad. I didn't want anyone to feel like they were less fuckable than someone just because of the way they were born. I've had sex with black guys and if I wasn't in a relationship I'd gladly do it again so none of what I said was how I felt, but that was what he wanted to hear to get off so I gave it to him.

I think I'd do it again. The reason being is I love being called derogatory words during sex, something I'd hit you for if you said it to me in a difference situation. For some reason I feel like I need to feel like filthy, slutty trash to have sex and so on some level I think I can relate to him.

I'd probably only do it in phone calls in the future, because I definitely don't want anyone sending videos of me doing that out without the proper context.

Other than that I only got white guys who wanted BBC. I never really thought about why they get off to that, but some of the responses here are really opening my eyes to some possibilities.

Blovely
07-03-2017, 10:58 AM
I'm white, but I live in the ghetto and listen to real rap so occasionally I say 'slur' while rapping along to something or just in average conversation with people who also talk like that. They realize that when I'm saying it that way it's just me saying something like 'homie' and they don't see it as any different than a black person saying it. I have white friends who say 'slur' more than black people I know who never say it. That being said, I've never called anyone an actual n**er (I think the hard r is what changes the meaning behind the word into an insult) and never think anything negative about any races. Literally the only generalized thought I have about black men is that they're usually attractive.



Black chick here. I was going to write something on the original topic but it would be way too long and I just really don't feel like getting into racism/racial politics/prejudicism/white supremacy but I couldn't just read this and not say anything. Ummm yeah not cool. Just because you "live in the ghetto" and "listen to rap" doesn't make it ok to say n***a. I don't even care if you grew up around black people or have black relatives its still not cool. I honestly cringed when I read that you actually say it to black people's faces and call them that. Just because people haven't said anything to you doesn't mean that they're ok with you saying it. Also even if some of those people are ok with you saying it doesn't mean that all black people are. If you had any real respect for black people you wouldn't say the word at all. White people calling each other that, I'm not even going to get into that just smh.

I of course can't speak for all black people but me personally I don't care what context the n word is used in non-blacks shouldn't be saying it. I've actually stopped using the word myself because after I really thought about it I realized that in most context n***a isn't used in a positive way. We (black people) still get that word hurled at us to; insult us, degrade us and belittle us. We are still facing racism every fucking day online and offline, so yeah the n word isn't some fun universal word that everyone can or should say. If you want to do racial humiliation on cam/in clips.... fine whatever but saying that shit in real life and thinking its ok, nope its not.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2017, 11:35 AM
In case some of you decided to skip the beginning of this thread here are the guidelines if you choose to enter the conversation:


unlocking this with some important ground rules below

before I begin I want to admit that I have no idea about the controversy that's going on with this topic on twitter, which is apparently a lot. not negating the relevancy of the topic, just can't fathom venturing to twitter to learn anything deeper conceptually than what 140 chars can allow which isn't much so I'm not about to go exploring just to read peeps talking shit to each other. social media seems to be more about talking than listening anyways, honestly I find that ish insufferably rude and boring and pathetically bombastic and not something I want in my life. I ignore peeps thus engaged with vigor and find my life much better for it. so yeah, willfully oblivious to the twitter/mv stuff about this

luckily none of that is really relevant here. just wrote the above to be clear about where I'm situated in writing the below

what IS relevant is that every thread on sw that ever even remotely relates to social race in cc turns into a meltdown of adults incapable of this particular discussion. It's highly embarrassing to everyone else (aka most of us) who aren't here to score points/fight/work off the tension of a bad day and it is not something that neither Phat nor I are interested in managing

so ground rules:

-discuss the topic if so desired, with specificity and respect. this is non negotiable. any and all violations of the respect tenet will be pointed per post, meaning that if someone gets riled and posts a ton of anger/trolling/etc there will be an infraction for each post. not per thread, per post.

-no debates as to whether racism exists. in the lived experience of peeps who are a part of our shared community. it does. that really should be enough. it is enough.

-quoting and/or using the n word is an immediate infraction, again per instance, regardless of context. Not wanted on this voyage

-no fighting. we are adults capable of respectful debate, not flaming. if someone posts crap, report and wait for Phat and I to handle it, which may not always be immediate. we have lives too and deserve time off and not being able to resist posting hate to hate is not an excuse for not acting right. report and go do something else, if you fight back just cuz an offensive post is there know what to expect in terms of consequence.


I feel embarrassed even having to write this, and I'm sure most peeps reading agree. to all of you I am really sorry, it is fucking pathetic and in no way a reflection on your or your conduct in this space. in every thread on this topic it's usually a small handful that ruin it for everyone else. this post isn't for you and thank you for that. those who can't be decent need to know the rules above though

honestly would love to have one thread in cc that deals with an issue of race and racism that could contribute thoughtful insight absent the rest of the ish that has characterized similar past posts and threads here that ended in..real disrespect and overt hate speech. consistently

much love to this community. this topic makes me inherently cranky cuz through it I've been exposed to so much ugliness in the past that has needed clean up but fuck that and no more. time we all hold ourselves to the really high, kind and imaginative standards we deserve.

peace and happy weekend

minniesoporno
07-25-2017, 12:37 PM
When its on webcam it doesn't bother me

in person that's a different story goes based on how comfortable I am with the person.

winnipeg
05-04-2018, 03:29 AM
Does anyone know the legality of communicating such slurs? especially regarding those who hint that they want this but may not directly tell you they want to be called XYZ? Is hinting consent? Does consent negate something like this being a hate crime? or communicating in a malicious way?

foxirox
05-04-2018, 04:11 AM
I have been asked to do racial humiliation in the past. It's usually about dick sizes though. From my perspective, I have no feelings one way or another. Just like when I humiliate guys in general. I don't dislike the guy. It doesn't make me a bitch. I have no personal connection to that person. I have no feelings whatever. It's like someone humiliating a donkey. And I think that is the difference. A racial attack is from a negative place with emotion involved. When I humiliate guys - it's not.

Classy_Katy
05-04-2018, 04:19 AM
Does anyone know the legality of communicating such slurs? especially regarding those who hint that they want this but may not directly tell you they want to be called XYZ? Is hinting consent? Does consent negate something like this being a hate crime? or communicating in a malicious way?

Hate crime has it's focus on whether the victim feels like it was a hate crime. I normally refuse to do this because I just feel too uncomfortable. I have called one guy names who I could see and he was calling himself the names and encouraging me to do the same. I would be concerned now about being recorded and no evidence of the person requesting that language and how it might be taken by others who see it.

winnipeg
05-04-2018, 04:40 AM
Hate crime has it's focus on whether the victim feels like it was a hate crime. I normally refuse to do this because I just feel too uncomfortable. I have called one guy names who I could see and he was calling himself the names and encouraging me to do the same. I would be concerned now about being recorded and no evidence of the person requesting that language and how it might be taken by others who see it.

In the moment they may not feel that way but afterwards? especially if theres limited aftercare in a virtual environment? and how easy it is for these things to be taken out of the context originally intended. These are my main reasons for refusing as well, but just wanted to know the actual legality of saying these things, even when theres consent/semi-consent at the time?

DonaDiabla
05-04-2018, 01:09 PM
Legality it depends on your country and their anti-racism laws. In the United States, that will fall under free of speech but each European country has their legal ramifications for this. I know that racial humiliation and naziplay are look at differently in the UK and the rest of Europe. In addition, you should not do type of domination if you and/or the other party will feel bad about it afterwards.Personally, as an woman of color...I have no moral dilemma with either other people of color wanting this type of domination nor white men wanting this type of domination. In fact, I have three phone sex characters devoted to this type of play and if I do not like a certain scene than it stops.


Does anyone know the legality of communicating such slurs? especially regarding those who hint that they want this but may not directly tell you they want to be called XYZ? Is hinting consent? Does consent negate something like this being a hate crime? or communicating in a malicious way?

TheBrownFox
05-05-2018, 08:16 AM
No, offering racial humiliation shows does not make you a racist. I just think everyone needs to remember that every cam show you do has the possibility of being shared on other sites - or even "go viral" - and the video captions will not always say things like "Cam girl ____ doing racial humiliation cam show" to explain to viewers what's going on. So you're gonna have viewers watching, who may not know wtf is going on, and they might see it as "some crazy racist chick going off, calling some guy the 'n' word." Lol.

This is why most models prefer to do those kinds of shows in exclusive (Streamate) or true private (MyFreeCams) where it's just between her and the one paying customer. Even though that customer could wind up sharing that session with others on the net, if he wanted to.

Marina Starr
05-05-2018, 08:53 AM
Skip to 2:40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTLr5DCKUkA

StellaPurr
05-05-2018, 09:32 AM
^^Awww baby Jay-Z, cute!

As for the race play thing, I think there's a difference between saying certain words out of hatred and with the real intention to hurt, and saying those words because they make the person on the receiving end really really turned on. That being said, the lines can blur and I can't say that word. I just can't. I do feel for the moc out there who have this kink and probably have a have a difficult time finding someone to indulge them in it. I will happily fawn over a guys bbc of he wants me to, but I do feel strange fetishizing someone for their race. I get asked "do u like bbc" a lot and i always say "it depends if i like the human being attached to the dick".

Do i think ppl are racist if they indulge someone in race play? No. Not if it's consensual. But I do think it's a bit risky, especially when anything can be put on a tube site and taken out of context.

Marina Starr
05-05-2018, 09:58 AM
I find it interesting that the ones that want me to use the N word and racial humiliation are always black men.
#nothappening
http://i66.tinypic.com/16bwumo.jpg

SweetJuliaXXX
05-05-2018, 04:48 PM
Well, delving into the psychology of it, as best I can, here's what I think: saying what they want you to doesn't make you racist. It makes you just a willing participant in indulging their kink. If it makes you feel amy better, when I asked a few why they like it, their response was always the same: they got called that in a situation they had no control over and are now trying to take charge of it in a controlled, safe environment. A few others REALLY have to have the race difference aknowledged for the show to be extra hot, one guy called it "a taste of the forbidden." Hope that made sense, not going on much sleep.

RedWine
05-06-2018, 07:45 AM
The men who want role-play are damaged and I really have no sympathy for men. The issue for me is what it does to the women they hire. OK work with me on this and open your mind:

I know its just a job, but slavery was just a way to make money for most slave holders were not deeply racist- they were bullies who got in on a hustle. They told themselves whatever then and even after slavery to keep an economic advantage. Do your ever wonder what effect those actions turned them into? I don't believe in Karma and I am not religious. I believe we create our reality by the power of the mind. I believe we create with words as well as deeds.

Here we are years later with kids full of blood lust- killing their friends and shooting up schools .People wonder why are these people so sadistic? I know why.

I'm biracial and my new boyfriend is a scientist who invents medications and works and studies DNA (white guy). He told me that behaviors and feelings can be passed in the DNA as well as affect the mind. He said that we really need to look deep into the family history of people like Jeffery Dommer and these high school murderers. You just may find people who help people hostage or people who enjoyed lychings.

When people hold people hostage-they can and often do horrible things. Some lie that slavery was kind, but you've seen horror movies and deep inside you know that those chained people lived a life of horror.

So I say, make your money, but realize that It may change you on a mental and genetic level.

WendiStarr
05-06-2018, 08:51 PM
Race humiliation guys make me uncomfortable. I've had a black guy who wanted me to call him the n word and I couldn't do it. It made me feel uncomfortable and I ended up blocking him. I've also had countless white guys who for whatever reason had a fascination of the coveted "big black dick". I prefer to block those types as well because while it may initially start off as seeming like they just have penis envy over alleged or real "big black dick", they always find a way to make it into a racist thing. They become angry with me and start spewing off racist garbage. I'd rather lose money on not dealing with racial humiliation seekers than to deal with the negative feelings and mindset there. My family has white, black, and asian in it so I can't feel right about it.

sovereignv
05-07-2018, 04:09 AM
I don't think it's inherently racist to call someone slurs if they're asking for it, but I'm not comfortable doing it and I don't. Doing nazi style shows in public etc seems like a horrendously stupid idea and yeah it's offensive. Context matters!!!

I agree with WendiStarr that the "big black dick" obsession that white guys have is a racist thing. I mean personally I find it to be hugely racist and based in these horrendous old stereotypes about black men as mindless sex animals. I honestly find that worse as a kink than a black guy who wants to be called the "n-word" or whatever, because it's a kind of racism that's so ingrained that the people who are doing it don't even realize it's racist. I'm not willing to indulge some old white man's degrading idea of black men.

Juliette25
05-07-2018, 05:32 PM
I don’t think it makes you racist to indulge a customer’s fantasy but I don’t think it should ever be done if you’re not comfortable with it regardless of whether it’s racist or not (by whatever standards decide that anyway).

Also some kinks are just stupid and in my opinion this is one of them.

DahliaSimone
05-07-2018, 06:40 PM
I have 2 guys (both black) who want racial play, both long time regs. It makes me super uncomfortable, but its not my job to judge, its my job to provide a fantasty for them. I have to agree that its a stupid fuckin kink, but I indulge in a dozen other equally stupid kinks. Interestingly enough, I've turned away guys before who wanted the same thing, but these two are two of my most trustworthy (well, as trustworthy as a client can be) dudes, so....I indulge them. There has to be a very specific vibe of trust with a client, for me to eschew personal beliefs just to make them cum.

Juliette25
05-07-2018, 07:16 PM
We should have a stupid kink thread.

DahliaSimone
05-07-2018, 10:41 PM
We should have a stupid kink thread.

Agreed

winnipeg
05-08-2018, 01:54 AM
I'm going to be totally honest and admit that I do it, and that it doesn't make me uncomfortable. And by "it" I mean racial/religious play of every color and creed. What I DON'T like is when guys assume they can humiliate the performer for her race, body type, nationality, age, religion, or anything. But if they're asking for it for themselves then I'm alright with it. I think the reason I'm okay doing it is that while it doesn't float my boat in real life or turn me on at all, I do have other fetishes personally that are fantasy to me and would be considered taboo, namely non-consensual stuff. But it's a fantasy for me that I wouldn't want to really happen in a situation out of my limits and boundaries. Because of this, I recognize that there might be guys out there who wouldn't tolerate being called racial slurs in real life, but in a certain situation with a woman of their choosing, it might turn them on. Same goes for white guys who have a BBC cuckold fetish going on. Of course, I would never be comfortable with this stuff in my everyday life, but I think you have to take porn with a grain of salt.

Plus, I kind of like getting inside people's heads and finding out what makes them tick. Sometimes the fetishes that don't turn me on at all in real life are the ones I enjoy the most on cam just in a mental satisfaction kind of way - I'm trying to figure out the things I don't understand because it fascinates me.

I do stick to guidelines though: I only do this kind of thing in exclusive one-on-one shows. This type of show belongs away from prying eyes. I don't want to unintentionally offend someone or scare people away with someone else's kink. And all this being said, if I wasn't banking off it, I wouldn't touch this shit with a 10 foot pole as I'm attracted to all races equally, and don't see any as less than or greater than the others. I do think it's ridiculous how some white men fetishize black men, thinking they're giving them compliments when it really is racist to just think of them as big dick sex machines. I hope that all these guys really do realize this is just fantasy and don't really objectify themselves and each other the way they do when they're jerking off.

Another thought I've had when it comes to this topic is that a lot of performers (myself definitely included) engage in SPH. How is it okay that we comment on the size of a guy's dick in order to get him off (something he can't change and didn't ask for) but not his race (something he can't change and didn't ask for)? I think it all goes back to consent and that you just can't choose what gets you off. Don't do anything you're not comfortable with though obviously. Even though it doesn't make me uncomfortable, I think it would if I got hateful vibes from one guy towards another ethnicity group, but I haven't encountered that yet fortunately.

Regarding the latter point about SPH and racial humilation, the big difference for me is the grey area of legality. Race is a protected characteristic and as such (taken out of context) theres legal implications whereas theres no legal issue if you say someone has a small d*ck!

Shy2
09-17-2020, 01:15 AM
I've had someone ask me to degrade them and call them them the n word - it wasn't in vid chat, we were typing. I'm ashamed to say after say I wouldn't be comfortable, that i ended up caving after being offered more and more money. I didn't like that I didn't know if they were actually a black customer, and that I didn't know why they wanted me to use that word. I can usually 'get' most fetishes - eg shrinking fetishes are just power exchanges in a different hat. Anyway, I didn't like not being able to understand why this supposedly turned him on. Wouldn't do again, the extra white guilt isn't worth the $

JustMilfnAround
09-17-2020, 07:23 AM
I walk a weird line with this one. I won't engage with the n word, race shaming or anything like that - but I will do cuckold - although I let them know it is not being done nor will it be done in a racist context. It is more done from a frame of "watch me take this cock that is bigger than yours". A lot of them just add the "black" part on their own and a majority of them don't take it to a racist place. I think it stems from the basic fact (science!) that african american men on average do have larger dicks.

Quite a few of the race play guys end up being pretty understanding when I explain that I am just not capable of racially insulting them because I don't see people in that way. Everyone is a person to me and isn't deserving of being humiliated for being a different race. We all bleed the same, some of us just have more melanin than others....

I'm getting sick of the guys that come in with "white girl" this and "white girl" that bullshit too. I always shut their asses down quickly. I experienced a lot of reverse racism growing up (white girl in a predominantly hispanic and black school), so it always pisses me off when I get called white girl. I used to get beat up for being white. As a child. In school. So, I light those dudes up too........

bigbum
09-18-2020, 10:43 PM
I consider myself an actress of sorts.
and each day i am given different roles.
i take it very seriously. i give my full effort.
personalities, ages, accents, ect.

my girl/girl cam partner and my husband are both mexican.
i do raceplay with them all the time on cam. they think its funny. they dont mind one bit.

for black raceplay i get some requests, i dont mind .
however i do have 1 client that comes back to me literally every single day to have me racially insult him with the n word and that i am his master for 5 minutes.
every SINGLE day. this has been going on for 3 weeks. straight. he asks me to "kill him" everyday in a new way.
i constantly have to come up with new ideas, watch civil war clips learn terms ect. its a bit strange , but i dont mind.
i dont do cam to cam so i have no idea if he is black or white or what his deal is. but it seems to make him happy. so why not.
he rants and raves about my acting skills and seems to enjoy.
i am acting on my stage my cam is my stage. as weird as that sounds.

i take my roleplays are purely acting.
my cam is my stage. when i dont do well enough i take it personally and wonder how i could have performed better.
same with my bdsm, or my other roles , sometimes i study before a shift for whatever role is needed or if i have a client doing a block ect that i have planned.

where is the line between acting and real life, between role play and performance. and is porn considered acting? i think so.

Likethis
09-19-2020, 12:16 PM
I'm white and I doing racial roleplay and humiliation is one of my biggest request. Just for the record my favorite color is green..as in $$$$!!
I'm not racist and truly don't give a fuk is you are black, blue, green purple or u icorn yellow.
I see everything that I do on cam as one thing only and that is acting! If u pay me and want me to call you a racial slur like the "n" word or worse, OK! I get a lot of requests to call myself a white slut whore ...and much worse..and I'm fine with that. Everyone in the scene knows and agrees beforehand that this is a roleplay and fantasy and nothing more than that. It doesn't bother me at all and I don't get off on it. But I do get off on the $$$ I make off doing it and I charge a lot to do it. Afterwards I always smile and thank them for the roleplay and I'm thanked in return. If I don't feel respect in the end then I don't keep that customer around.
I'm not into making clips of it etc..it just a roleplay request for me and I'm damn good at it. If it makes my customer happy, fine by me.
There are lots of things I refuse to soon cam like underage roleplay, rape, blood, bestially.. Lots of stuff.
To me, racial roleplay is pretty benign in a larger universe of camming.
I know this is a slightly old thread but still I've seen the same reasoning of that last sentence many times and it bothers me so feel like I have to comment on it. I'm generally considered white but I've also been asked to role-play as a woman of different ethnicity because of some stereotypical traits we share (it's something I never agreed to do btw). I don't believe any white person has the capability of understanding how "benign" or not any of these role-plays originating from racist society are, by definition privilege stands in the way of completely realising all of the damage racism does. To me this is a bit like a man talking about how pretty benign a sexist rape play is, by default he doesn't have the full picture and needs to always keep that in mind to understand ramifications of oppressive systems, as a man he's living in a different part of reality where he doesn't see half of it. And something similar applies here I believe.

TheBrownFox
09-19-2020, 04:21 PM
Sam Rockwell played the president of the KKK in the movie The Best of Enemies (which he starred in alongside his friend Taraji P. Henson), and he played a despicable racist character in the movie The Green Mile. Do I think he himself is a racist? Hell no. I don't know the dude personally, but I've seen him in interviews, and he seems like a sweetheart.

I don't do racial humiliation roleplay AT ALL, however I don't think doing it makes you racist since you are just playing a role that you're being paid for. It's one thing to play a role in private/true private, and another to be in public chat ranting about how you can't stand this or that race. Now that MFC model (who shall remain nameless) who used to dress up and do "Tip to beat up a Black person" cam shows in public chat...yeah, that made me sick to my stomach (especially with the shit that's been happening in this country), as well as the thought of men sitting there and tipping her to do it, which is enabling/encouraging her, imo.

Luci Fer
06-25-2021, 04:25 AM
Uh.Thank you, girls, for the thread. I been asked to do it , too. When I was less experienced I had a Jewish person who wanted me to play Nazi. Really confused me with it. Now after reading this thread I think if he was Jewish at all?:(
What happens on cam is virtual, but still there are a lot of emotions. I try to stay professional, but I can't humiliate people using skin colour like a reason for insult even it is roleplay. Honestly, I started to think about all this only because of these damn requests. When I first got it, I googled 'raceplay' and was shocked a bit lol. Like whaaaaat? Are you kidding?
Now you mention sometimes these guys can be white dudes wanting to hear you say shitty things about people of other cultures, and I think ''when will I stop getting surprised with how low can people fall?'' So thank you for the warning.
I say 'no' when they ask about a raceplay though. It doesn't get along with my inner I.
Does it make me less of a professional? I cant say. I respect the ladies who can perform it professionally and take care of their custies after, and I respect the ladies who refuse it because they feel they can't.

TheBrownFox
06-25-2021, 11:09 AM
I say 'no' when they ask about a raceplay though. It doesn't get along with my inner I.
Does it make me less of a professional?

NOPE, not at all. :) Contrary to what some of these men may believe, cam models DO NOT have to do anything these guys tell/ask them to do. When someone asks me to pretend to be a slave (and he's my "master") on a plantation, I will absolutely say no every time without hesitation. And if the guy doesn't like that...that's just too bad. They can go find someone else to do that.

I would also advise that anyone reading this thread remember that these shows could be recorded at any time (The guy could be recording you), and plastered all over the internet for viewers to take it out of context. I saw a video on WorldStar showing a cam girl saying that her "White booty is for White guys only...not for n******." And I'm sure there are others like that plastered on the internet.

Luci Fer
06-26-2021, 01:48 AM
NOPE, not at all. :) Contrary to what some of these men may believe, cam models DO NOT have to do anything these guys tell/ask them to do. When someone asks me to pretend to be a slave (and he's my "master") on a plantation, I will absolutely say no every time without hesitation. And if the guy doesn't like that...that's just too bad. They can go find someone else to do that.

I would also advise that anyone reading this thread remember that these shows could be recorded at any time (The guy could be recording you), and plastered all over the internet for viewers to take it out of context. I saw a video on WorldStar showing a cam girl saying that her "White booty is for White guys only...not for n******." And I'm sure there are others like that plastered on the internet.

Thank you, Fox!:heartbeat And great advice! Btw, it's also a good way to measure your limits thinking of the possibility of being recorded.

Emanuelle
06-26-2021, 06:26 PM
I would also advise that anyone reading this thread remember that these shows could be recorded at any time (The guy could be recording you), and plastered all over the internet for viewers to take it out of context. I saw a video on WorldStar showing a cam girl saying that her "White booty is for White guys only...not for n******." And I'm sure there are others like that plastered on the internet.

This is exactly the comment I was going to make. I won't touch race play because it goes against my core ethics. I will not harm animals, children, or belittle other races. Not even pretend. All those things are abhorrent to me, and deeply upsetting.

Even if race play wasn't a hard limit for me I think it's really important to always make decisions on cam with the idea that what you do WILL end up on mainstream internet and your friends, family, and future employers/employees/coworkers WILL find it. I don't feel ashamed of being naked and sexy on cam or even doing things that may seem distasteful to a lot of people (MILF/stepmom is my bread and butter, which honestly grosses me out, but feels harmless).

However, if a video of me making racist slurs ever surfaced how would I explain that? Saying someone paid me to say it because they like it, sexually, isn't going to make anyone think I'm not a horrible person. How can I say I'm not that kind of person if I am for payment? Just my perspective.

I don't have an intellectual argument for this kink. I can't say one way or another whether it's more harmful to do it or kink shaming not to do it. I think the twitter outing girls who do this is free advertising for people who want this content, so it's a double edged sword. For me my gut reaction is just practicality.