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IvyRose
10-09-2020, 02:44 AM
Is this site even still worth signing up on? I see some girls saying its super dead for them and that payment issues are happening.....

As of the "site is dead":
You need to bring your own clients (i only made sales with my own regs, never 1 additional sale from the "lcms traffic")...

The 85% is awesome

As of for some week the owner is not responding anymore to any of my emails. Paymenys are still going through.....

I dont know what to think about the total silence from lcms, as in you cannot reach them in any way anymore.

missopal
10-11-2020, 08:27 AM
I clicked on the link of their sister site and its not even loading. Even if I type it in google, it wont load so it looks like that site went under. But I saw the girl who left or is leaving managed it so maybe thats why. I wouldnt be pulling guys off SM and the independent sites already have a processor. Goodness. I guess I'll just wait to see what the site owner ends up doing since he is so hard to reach right now and the person who used to approve signs up is no longer with them.

hopping in here to look for info on why Jesse hasn't responded to me, and why I can't access GPC on my computer or phone. I'm not a model on GPC but was going to sign up after the indiebill announcement. I emailed Jesse asking literally "are you ok?" because there is a pandemic right now. she's so personable and talkative with me and used to be so quick to respond... this thread makes me nervous for the whole site's future now. I sent to both the LCMS email and her personal email account. her personal account bounced back to me with an auto message saying her hotmail box was full and couldn't accept new messages? her twitter has been dead for months and the GPC twitter appears to not exist anymore...

like many of you I have clients I use to process payment via LCMS but no traffic from there itself. so I'm still getting my checks in the mail thankfully, but her absence worries me.

arielbriel
10-11-2020, 12:56 PM
Email Igot :


On Tuesday, October 6, 2020, 09:30:23 AM EDT, GirlsPrivateCam. com <[email protected]> wrote:


Hello models,

I am emailing you to inform you of a vital decision I have had to make
I will be taking Girlsprivatecam.com down due to dissolving my partnership with Jesse Livecammodelshows.
This decision leaves me with such a heavy heart, but necessary.

I want to thank every one of you for being with me on Girlsprivatecam.com over the years.
You all made Gpc very special to me.

If I can, I will bring it back online as a free listing page, only no payment system.
If you would be interested in that, email me, ok.


Payouts for gpc girls: Jesse will take care of all payouts owing to this date Oct 06th, 2020
Jesse will do payouts as it usually is.

I will truly miss you all!

Thank you for everything, and have a great day.

Jolee

iamcocoloca
10-11-2020, 02:50 PM
WELL FUCK.... i am missing check in snail mail from show in august - and havent been able to get in touch with anyone... i hope jess is physically and emotionally ok but damn :(

jolee
10-11-2020, 05:49 PM
Jolee here.

Before everyone gets tied up in knots. Due to a contract I can not say in detail of Jesse's personal stuff. I can say as far as I go I dissolved the partnership due to business ethics. These issues causes just to much stress personally for me. I love Jesse to the moon and back as a person.
She has not answered me either for many weeks and I know she is not sick as I have had one contact from her she did and has been making the payouts. If you have missing payout I wish i could help you, only thing I can do is ask you to please email her and I hope she answers you soon.
I wish her well and all of you.
Jolee
PS: I don't usually yak on forums so wont be answering a zillion questions ok Thanks for understanding. Hugs to all
also excuse the grammar lol don't feel like being the perfect typer tonight.

UPDATE : Oct 15th I am so sorry I have exhausted every option I had to end up with nothing. I can only hope that Jesse surfaces and pays everyone, including me.
No one can do anything or has access to only Jesse. I have access to do ach, but that isn't enough, so I found out. I have no access to her business bank for bank wire information.
So that ended that. I reached out to people but got nowhere.
I feel sick—my heart breaks. I hope Jesse is ok; I hate what she is doing to all the models that gave her their trust.

I wish there were more I could do. Sorry for the shit news. I did my very best.

Jolee

SimoneGray
10-14-2020, 04:35 AM
Hi Jolee, Thank you so much for updating us. I understand you cannot speak on this further, so the below is not to get an answer from you, it is just to have it out in the open.

I personally am very worried, as I have received payments via LCMS in the last two days, and now worry that they won't come through to me. I emailed her today regarding my concern and her email box is full, so I doubt it will ever be received. This is heartbreaking as LCMS has been one of the most reliable sites over the past few years.

Basically I just want to know if I can still keep taking payments or if it is time to move on. I guess I'm saying this out into the void in case Jesse happens to read this.

jolee
10-14-2020, 05:54 AM
OMFG!! ok I will be back in a bit gonna see if i can get answers, She promised me this would never happen again. I am so pissed.

euro_princess
10-14-2020, 08:58 AM
Are you back with LCMS or just temporary? Asking so we know if we can reach you in the future. Thank you for the help!

jolee
10-14-2020, 09:17 AM
Hi, no, I am not with lcms anymore; I am helping my fellow cam models with what I can do. I have emailed a few people. I hope to hear soon, including Jesse.
It is best not to do transactions via lcms until Jesse surfaces and takes care of business. I know how everyone feels.
If I get more information, hopefully, optimistic, I will be back with it one way or the other.


( To Jesse if you read this: I hope you will do this today, Jesse, please and thanks )

Talk soon
Jolee

anonamiss
10-14-2020, 11:49 AM
what the hell, seriously? i have a $1900 paycheck i was expecting this week, and another $1500 or so over the next two weeks. LCMS has been my bread and butter this month and it was looking up in terms of me getting more shows, which it seems will be best to postpone/wait until I can sign up elsewhere for reliable indie payments. ugh.

THANK YOU for trying to help Jolee (and for sending out a proper message on the LCMS admin), i sincerely hope you're able to reach Jesse or someone at LCMS and at least get this month's payouts in order. I will do as you advised and not take any more payments.

i will also note, i normally get my weekly direct deposit sometime between wednesdays and fridays. two weeks ago (on Oct 1st) I got an unexpected double payment. it was for the week of 9/13 as well as 9/20, in one single transaction. jesse has done this before a couple times randomly/because of known payout issues, so I didn't think anything of it.

then i started reading this thread and was keeping my fingers crossed that my big payment this week would go through, so it's very troublesome to read that the payouts didn't happen yet. i really hope all the payments we were expecting will hit our accounts by the end of the month. that is literally my rent and bill money :(

TheBrownFox
10-14-2020, 01:00 PM
Aw, I hope all is well with Jesse. I've always liked her, and miss seeing her post on here.

I was actually just thinking about how I'm sick of dealing with free chat and cam scores, and wondering if I should give LCMS a try. I remember I had contacted a while ago with an interest in signing up, but I never followed through with making a profile on there.

anonamiss
10-14-2020, 01:45 PM
^ yeah, i should add that I also hope Jesse is doing okay. my post is a bit heated just because the situation is frustrating/worrisome from an income perspective. but i know she's dealt with health issues that interfered with site admin stuff in the past (although jolee did say she knows she's not sick this time). i'm sure (i hope) she has a valid reason for her lack of correspondence... it's just so unprofessional to leave us all in the dark like this.

side note... if anyone joins another indie site in the meantime, I'd be curious to hear what you choose. i am currently looking at AVNstars (80% payout) and Erotifix (85% payout).

honestly i am tempted to let my two highest-paying/trusted regs use a service like venmo just so i don't have to go through a whole new signup process and potentially give up even more of my cut, but i am SO wary of doing that and am fully aware of how frowned upon and risky it is, for good reason. just really disheartening how tough it is to find a reliable, safe payment service for us. i had looked into indiebill as a backup in the past but they just shut down, just like a few of the other places i had considered before i decided on LCMS last year. sigh.

euro_princess
10-14-2020, 02:37 PM
^Manyvids has 80% for tips and is quite a popular and trusted platform. And so does IWC. They even have 100% for custom clips. I assume a client could order a fake custom clip, so you can get full 100% and you could deliver whatever (if you must upload it on the website). Not familiar with the rules for clips, just an idea.

laurielegs
10-14-2020, 06:17 PM
^Manyvids has 80% for tips and is quite a popular and trusted platform. And so does IWC. They even have 100% for custom clips. I assume a client could order a fake custom clip, so you can get full 100% and you could deliver whatever (if you must upload it on the website). Not familiar with the rules for clips, just an idea.


IWC is not actually 100%. it's odd the way they do it.

For instance if you charge $10 per minute you have to put the charge at something like $7.14 per minute to have it charge the client $10.

If you put $100 it will charge the customer way more, I think around $140 dollars.

euro_princess
10-16-2020, 04:06 AM
Any updates? Are payments still going on?

Nastyaa
10-16-2020, 04:11 AM
Any updates? Are payments still going on?

I haven't got mine..

SimoneGray
10-16-2020, 04:37 AM
Any updates? Are payments still going on?

I have mine set up to go through at month end. If this is still going on, I will let you ladies know as well whether or not I receive it.

jolee
10-16-2020, 06:10 AM
Sorry I posted this update on my first post above, I'm not super forum savvy

UPDATE : Oct 15th I am so sorry I have exhausted every option I had to end up with nothing. I can only hope that Jesse surfaces and pays everyone, including me.
No one can do anything or has access to only Jesse. I have access to do ach, but that isn't enough, so I found out. I have no access to her business bank for bank wire information.
So that ended that. I reached out to people but got nowhere.
I feel sick—my heart breaks. I hope Jesse is ok; I hate what she is doing to all the models that gave her their trust.

I wish there were more I could do. Sorry for the shit news. I did my very best.

Jolee

Nastyaa
10-16-2020, 06:15 AM
Sorry I posted this update on my first post above, I'm not super forum savvy

UPDATE : Oct 15th I am so sorry I have exhausted every option I had to end up with nothing. I can only hope that Jesse surfaces and pays everyone, including me.
No one can do anything or has access to only Jesse. I have access to do ach, but that isn't enough, so I found out. I have no access to her business bank for bank wire information.
So that ended that. I reached out to people but got nowhere.
I feel sick—my heart breaks. I hope Jesse is ok; I hate what she is doing to all the models that gave her their trust.

I wish there were more I could do. Sorry for the shit news. I did my very best.

Jolee

Thank you Jolee and don't eat yourself up. You were always there when I couldn't reach her and that gave me some comfort.

Hope everything will be okay..

IvyRose
10-16-2020, 06:42 AM
Any updates? Are payments still going on?

My payment is late, should normally have arrived normally tuesday/wednesday.... latest normally thursday
1530 dollar

Hopefully it will still arrive, I will update if it does. I wanted to wait till next week with posting this, but changed my mind bec i thought it was important to keep each other updated

I am not using lcms anymore, to much headache worrying about money, esp since there is no contact possible with Jesse
Would have been way less troublesome if Jesse would have given us a heads up about this or at least reachable

I really hope Jesse is doing ok, care a lot about her.

IvyRose
10-16-2020, 06:46 AM
Sorry I posted this update on my first post above, I'm not super forum savvy

UPDATE : Oct 15th I am so sorry I have exhausted every option I had to end up with nothing. I can only hope that Jesse surfaces and pays everyone, including me.
No one can do anything or has access to only Jesse. I have access to do ach, but that isn't enough, so I found out. I have no access to her business bank for bank wire information.
So that ended that. I reached out to people but got nowhere.
I feel sick—my heart breaks. I hope Jesse is ok; I hate what she is doing to all the models that gave her their trust.

I wish there were more I could do. Sorry for the shit news. I did my very best.

Jolee
thank you so much Jolee for updating and reaching out on this forum to lcms models!
Very much appreciate the effort youve been putting into this!

euro_princess
10-16-2020, 08:31 AM
I was asking cause I also had to receive some money this week and nothing so far. I’ll update next week if anything changes. Best of luck to all!

MsJess
10-16-2020, 10:52 AM
Oh gosh this breaks my heart :( i hope Jesse is ok and all payments are made soon!

anonamiss
10-16-2020, 11:26 AM
no payment for me this week :(

i sent an email to [email protected] as well as Jesse's hotmail account. the hotmail email bounced from her having a full inbox. i'll post back here if i get a response but that seems highly unlikely.

thanks for everyone updating here and especially to jolee for trying your best to help! <3

anonamiss
10-16-2020, 05:05 PM
been mulling on this for a bit

what i find rather troubling about all of this is that it seems like jesse doesn't have ANY backup contacts (other than what used to be Jolee, who can't even reach her, so that doesn't really count). and from what jolee said about the banking information, it sounds like jesse is the only person with enough access to do anything of importance, at least from an admin/payout perspective.

i know things have generally been fine up until now, but still. this makes me highly skeptical of ever using another payment service where only one person is effectively running the whole business. in retrospect it seems like a huge red flag. maybe i'm overthinking.

also makes me wonder if some abrupt unpredictable situation came up, like a medical emergency, or a natural disaster, etc -- which i would be sympathetic to. but from a purely business/professional perspective, you'd think there'd be a backup plan in place for such an occasion, or at the very least someone else to contact.

Luna66
10-17-2020, 02:50 PM
As a notoriously unreliable person who frequently takes months off work for health-related reasons and knows that it isn't always optional, I understand what Jesse might be going through and hope she's OK.

As a model who needed this week's payment in order to make rent this month, I'm incredibly disappointed. I wouldn't put myself in a position where other models rely on me in order to get their money, because I know I'm unreliable. My stress levels have increased tenfold because of this and it's literally the last thing I needed right now.

Nastyaa
10-18-2020, 03:09 AM
I am so mad.. First payment is late, now I can't continue taking new custom clips payments because I don't know what's happening..
I will loose my mind

IvyRose
10-18-2020, 04:53 AM
I am so mad.. First payment is late, now I can't continue taking new custom clips payments because I don't know what's happening..
I will loose my mind

Maybe iwantclip.com is a option for you to sell custom clips? You also get a higher pay out % for custom clips on iwantclips.com , if i understood correctly than with 85%lcms
Hugs! And yes, it sucks so hard!

Nastyaa
10-18-2020, 05:09 AM
Maybe iwantclip.com is a option for you to sell custom clips? You also get a higher pay out % for custom clips on iwantclips.com , if i understood correctly than with 85%lcms
Hugs! And yes, it sucks so hard!

It's not possible.. I was charging 12$ per minute and those 15% were at my expense. But it was great, I had few 10+ customs a week and where I live In country where 2000$ is more than enough to live.. I'm afraid I would get less customs and my regulars are used to this price.. On IWC for 200$ clip, customer is paying 280$ and I think that's too much, idk.. :/

CatBBW
10-18-2020, 06:46 AM
It's not possible.. I was charging 12$ per minute and those 15% were at my expense. But it was great, I had few 10+ customs a week and where I live In country where 2000$ is more than enough to live.. I'm afraid I would get less customs and my regulars are used to this price.. On IWC for 200$ clip, customer is paying 280$ and I think that's too much, idk.. :/

OnlyFans and AVNStars, both have a payout of 80%.

IvyRose
10-18-2020, 06:51 AM
It's not possible.. I was charging 12$ per minute and those 15% were at my expense. But it was great, I had few 10+ customs a week and where I live In country where 2000$ is more than enough to live.. I'm afraid I would get less customs and my regulars are used to this price.. On IWC for 200$ clip, customer is paying 280$ and I think that's too much, idk.. :/

Oh i had no clue that customer pays 280 for a 200 clip! Nevertheles, if i were you i would just try it out anyways, I personally have the feeling that lcms will not be resolved (anytime soon.... hopefully it will, but i woudnt count on it).

You could even sell them at 175 if you are scared of loosing clients and tell them about the situation, than you sell at 25 less and they will pay around 55 ? more
I honestly think youll keep selling. Bonus is that iwantclip has a exsisting clientbase on its own and theyare used to pulling out their wallet
Its a site were a lot of findoms are on; there is even the option to make a %code, and instead of a discount you can choose also for clients to be able to add a +%.... dor example a 25% on top of what they pay
And the best thing is, that i see a lot of girls with clients using a code to pay extra!

I think you can even make a discount code... you could even make the clip than the normall 200, and they can choose to add a discount code... just to see if they actually care about that 80more

Your client will than know that you dont intend to rip them off
And you will be able to keep selling

Bec if you stop entirely there is obviously 0 income on the part you stop selling. Better to try things out. You might be surprise by the willingness of your clients to "help you out" if you mass-email the situation


Regs are usually customers who are really into you (hence why they are coming back for more,)
Dont be afraid to give yourself a raise of price even with regs..... you evolve as a camgirl, and you get better at what you do with getting more experience. With this you certainly deserve a raise to, bec else it would mean we would be stuck at 1 price forever and ever.
If people complain or say its out of their budget, you can "give them a good deal snd say you give "them a discount from your new price"...
In this way i went double and after this even triple my skypeprice, some of my clients i give a "discount for being long time regulars" others agreed and pay the new price.... some even asked if they could pay the new price (i was willing to keep them at old, but they requested to pay higher)

Bottomline,: there are always options

Nastyaa
10-18-2020, 07:30 AM
Oh i had no clue that customer pays 280 for a 200 clip! Nevertheles, if i were you i would just try it out anyways, I personally have the feeling that lcms will not be resolved (anytime soon.... hopefully it will, but i woudnt count on it).

You could even sell them at 175 if you are scared of loosing clients and tell them about the situation, than you sell at 25 less and they will pay around 55 ? more
I honestly think youll keep selling. Bonus is that iwantclip has a exsisting clientbase on its own and theyare used to pulling out their wallet
Its a site were a lot of findoms are on; there is even the option to make a %code, and instead of a discount you can choose also for clients to be able to add a +%.... dor example a 25% on top of what they pay
And the best thing is, that i see a lot of girls with clients using a code to pay extra!

I think you can even make a discount code... you could even make the clip than the normall 200, and they can choose to add a discount code... just to see if they actually care about that 80more

Your client will than know that you dont intend to rip them off
And you will be able to keep selling

Bec if you stop entirely there is obviously 0 income on the part you stop selling. Better to try things out. You might be surprise by the willingness of your clients to "help you out" if you mass-email the situation


Regs are usually customers who are really into you (hence why they are coming back for more,)
Dont be afraid to give yourself a raise of price even with regs..... you evolve as a camgirl, and you get better at what you do with getting more experience. With this you certainly deserve a raise to, bec else it would mean we would be stuck at 1 price forever and ever.
If people complain or say its out of their budget, you can "give them a good deal snd say you give "them a discount from your new price"...
In this way i went double and after this even triple my skypeprice, some of my clients i give a "discount for being long time regulars" others agreed and pay the new price.... some even asked if they could pay the new price (i was willing to keep them at old, but they requested to pay higher)

Bottomline,: there are always options

Thank you ;D yeah, we could split that IWC% with clients now because I need money urgent and there you can request payment. I just opened ManyVids account and there you get paid on 1st and 16th so I would probably use that for later.

TheBrownFox
10-19-2020, 01:44 PM
Thank you ;D yeah, we could split that IWC% with clients now because I need money urgent and there you can request payment. I just opened ManyVids account and there you get paid on 1st and 16th so I would probably use that for later.


If you're interested in getting daily pay on ManyVids, you can sign up for the Boleyn Models daily pay service. :)
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?189264-The-BoleynModels-InstantPay-Thread

Nastyaa
10-20-2020, 03:09 AM
If you're interested in getting daily pay on ManyVids, you can sign up for the Boleyn Models daily pay service. :)
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?189264-The-BoleynModels-InstantPay-Thread

I emailed them but they haven't answed me since I think yesterday :). Do you use it?

JessRyan
10-20-2020, 06:56 AM
oh wow I just read the last few pages due to no response from Jesse. This explains it. Hope things improve

anonamiss
10-20-2020, 03:04 PM
I know this thread has kind of derailed into a discussion about indie site alternatives so just wanted to update that I decided to sign up with Erotifix. It seemed the most similar to the way LCMS is structured which I saw as a big plus: 85% cut, doesn't require the customer to create an account, weekly direct deposit. Only downside I can see so far is a $500 transaction limit, with customers limited to 2 transactions per 24 hours. On the upside, they were quick to respond to my questions when I emailed their support team (and also have a support phone number). After this LCMS communication fiasco, that was an important factor for me to consider.

Still keeping my fingers crossed that things at LCMS get resolved (mainly that I get the $3200 I am owed... so grateful for my savings account right now >_<), but I'm just going to move forward at this point because there's no use dwelling on it anymore.

thatgingercamgirl
10-20-2020, 03:13 PM
Thank you for the update Anonamiss! I too have been trying to find other options, good to know that Erotifix seems to be a great alternative.

TheBrownFox
10-20-2020, 09:11 PM
I see that XXXCamBabes is still around.




I emailed them but they haven't answed me since I think yesterday :). Do you use it?

Yes, I and a lot of other ladies on this forum use Boleyn Models, and BM also posts here on the forum. :)

SuperPookie
10-21-2020, 07:08 AM
I know this thread has kind of derailed into a discussion about indie site alternatives so just wanted to update that I decided to sign up with Erotifix. It seemed the most similar to the way LCMS is structured which I saw as a big plus: 85% cut, doesn't require the customer to create an account, weekly direct deposit. Only downside I can see so far is a $500 transaction limit, with customers limited to 2 transactions per 24 hours. On the upside, they were quick to respond to my questions when I emailed their support team (and also have a support phone number). After this LCMS communication fiasco, that was an important factor for me to consider.

Still keeping my fingers crossed that things at LCMS get resolved, but I'm just going to move forward at this point because there's no use dwelling on it anymore.

I was told that they will charge the customer a $5 transaction fee which to me seems very high. Hopefully that isn't the case.
Unlike IndieBill Boleyn Models isn't covering them at least as of yet but maybe that will change as they get a bit more known.

Nastyaa
10-21-2020, 09:00 AM
I know this thread has kind of derailed into a discussion about indie site alternatives so just wanted to update that I decided to sign up with Erotifix. It seemed the most similar to the way LCMS is structured which I saw as a big plus: 85% cut, doesn't require the customer to create an account, weekly direct deposit. Only downside I can see so far is a $500 transaction limit, with customers limited to 2 transactions per 24 hours. On the upside, they were quick to respond to my questions when I emailed their support team (and also have a support phone number). After this LCMS communication fiasco, that was an important factor for me to consider.

Still keeping my fingers crossed that things at LCMS get resolved, but I'm just going to move forward at this point because there's no use dwelling on it anymore.

So they can go 2x500?

Also, is there minimum for payment? Do they have wire transfer? Are they safe?

anonamiss
10-21-2020, 10:40 AM
So they can go 2x500?

Also, is there minimum for payment? Do they have wire transfer? Are they safe?

Yes, $1000/day is the max limit, which can be done over two $500 transactions. Though apparently the customers have to pay a $5 fee per transaction, which means models can only technically charge up to $495 per transaction.

The four payout options I see offered are "eMailed Check", Direct Deposit, BoleynModels, and Paxum.

As for "are they safe" I've only seen a few models here mention their site, but from what I can tell they appear legit and their support has been helpful and responsive so far. On their directory page (https://erotifix.com/site/models) they seem to have a lot of models signed up. I am not sure about a minimum payment; there was nothing mentioned on their FAQ page or the payment page about it.

anonamiss
10-21-2020, 10:44 AM
I was told that they will charge the customer a $5 transaction fee which to me seems very high. Hopefully that isn't the case.
Unlike IndieBill Boleyn Models isn't covering them at least as of yet but maybe that will change as they get a bit more known.

Oops, I responded to the post under yours first because I didn't see this one.

Yeah, it's $5 per transaction that the customer pays. Shrug. I don't think any of my regs will care since they're used to spending upwards of $300 a pop. I will probably just eat the $5 fee and subtract it out of my normal rates for them since I charge by the half hour or full hour on Skype, not by the minute.

On the payment page, BoleynModels was in fact listed as an option.

Blovely
10-21-2020, 12:35 PM
i know things have generally been fine up until now, but still. this makes me highly skeptical of ever using another payment service where only one person is effectively running the whole business. in retrospect it seems like a huge red flag. maybe i'm overthinking.

I don't think so. It's sad that not getting paid or worrying about not getting paid keeps happening in the cam world especially with someone like LS/Jesse. I always liked her and still do but not paying models or taking forever to pay them especially when this has happened to her in the past with an Indie company is not ok. If companies can not consistently pay their models then they need to hire someone who can or close down shop.

We have all seen time and time again how these sites keep fucking models over when it comes to payout. If it's not the owner of the site it's the payment processor or merchant/bank, if its not them it's an e-wallet service. At this point I think models need to seriously start taking business into their own hands even more than they are. Not exactly sure how models can do that but models need to do whatever they can to protect themselves as much as possible because at this point I feel like models are willing walking into the lion's mouth. With these smaller companies models at this point should know that it's not if their money will get stolen or never paid out it's when. These companies all end up being the same and ending the same in the end. These companies have showed their asses too many times for models to not wake tf up.

anonamiss
10-21-2020, 01:30 PM
At this point I think models need to seriously start taking business into their own hands even more than they are. Not exactly sure how models can do that but models need to do whatever they can to protect themselves as much as possible

Yeah, it's rough. I've told a couple of my regs about this LCMS situation and one of them is getting really pushy about letting me pay him through Google Pay. He basically said "I REALLY want you to take my money; you are the most difficult model I've ever worked with in terms of getting payment to you, and I don't understand why you insist on giving other people a huge cut of your money" [this in both reference to the current situation, as well as when he first started asking for Skype shows. The whole time, I have insisted on using legit adult/indie processors, much to his annoyance.] He says he's paid multiple established porn stars through CashApp & Google for years and it's been fine.

He knows I feel super uncomfortable using a service that could be a huge chunk of my income while knowingly breaking TOS, but he also rightfully says "Yeah but it seems like you can't even trust your indie porn companies, so...." At this point, he's not wrong, and it's SO frustrating. I find myself weighing out the idea of "well who I do trust more not to fuck me over -- my reliable customer [who has become a like a close friend] of 3+ years, or some random indie site owner?"

Ugh. I think my final solution to this will be signing up for my own CCBill/high-risk merchant account and taking all of my payments directly. No third parties, no indie bullshit. But that is going to come with it's costs/downsides/challenges. I'm not quite ready to jump the gun on it but I am hoping to have it all in place by the end of the year, so I can start 2021 fresh and never use an indie site again.

kortneykay
10-21-2020, 02:19 PM
I don't think so. It's sad that not getting paid or worrying about not getting paid keeps happening in the cam world especially with someone like LS/Jesse. I always liked her and still do but not paying models or taking forever to pay them especially when this has happened to her in the past with an Indie company is not ok. If companies can not consistently pay their models then they need to hire someone who can or close down shop.

We have all seen time and time again how these sites keep fucking models over when it comes to payout. If it's not the owner of the site it's the payment processor or merchant/bank, if it not them it's an e-wallet service. At this point I think models need to seriously start taking business into their own hands even more than they are. Not exactly sure how models can do that but models need to do whatever they can to protect themselves as much as possible because at this point I feel like models are willing walking into the lioness mouth. With these smaller companies models at this point should know that it's not if their money will get stolen or never paid out it's when. These companies all end up being the same and ending the same in the end. These companies have showed their asses too many times for models to not wake tf up.

This is why I advocate for bbs to go totally indy and start opening LLCs with DBAs and getting their own processor by any means necessary.

SuperPookie
10-21-2020, 04:12 PM
My earnings were pulled this morning/late last night. Maybe that is a good sign.

anonamiss
10-21-2020, 04:16 PM
My earnings were pulled this morning/late last night. Maybe that is a good sign.

what do you mean your "earnings were pulled"?

SuperPookie
10-21-2020, 04:20 PM
^^ removed as if the new week was starting. They had just been sitting un-updated in my account for several weeks and never sent for payout

anonamiss
10-21-2020, 04:35 PM
^^ removed as if the new week was starting. They had just been sitting un-updated in my account for several weeks and never sent for payout

oh i see. that's interesting. i thought i recall mine updated/went blank right when the new week started on sunday, but i'm not 100% sure. it's blank now. i just assumed that was automated.

SuperPookie
10-21-2020, 04:44 PM
oh i see. that's interesting. i thought i recall mine updated/went blank right when the new week started on sunday, but i'm not 100% sure. it's blank now. i just assumed that was automated.

tbh I did to until it just sat there lol