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DancesWithSloths
12-04-2017, 04:55 AM
I know this is a new venture and everyone has to start somewhere but imo they dont seem fully launched to me. Why arent they cross promoting this?
If I were devious, I would suspect they wanted to get a foothold in the corner of the market before iWantFanClub launches.
justsometwat
12-04-2017, 06:09 AM
That's exactly what I thought. They might have had it in the works after follow plus, then only fans popped up and once they heard iwantfanclub was coming they rushed to push it live.
It's horribly done and seems unpolished.
coco789
12-04-2017, 07:12 AM
This brand needs a major facelift. From the website to the name. The site is overly complicated and confusing. Simplify. They are trying to do too many things at once.
MistressX
12-04-2017, 11:36 AM
Yeah i wont be using this site. I was going to gibe it a chance but it's really terrible.
naomi_doll
12-04-2017, 11:39 AM
Yep, they really expect us to drive all the traffic. I just got this email:
Hello,
We want to help you kickstart your sales on NexoCams!
Here are some tips to turn your fans into paying customers and get more followers:
Use all of your social media platforms to promote your NexoCams feed.
-Take advantage of the Promo Tools in your account settings to auto-tweet your post updates.
-Keep your social media posts fresh, interesting and varied. Don't use the same text or image more than twice.
-Use your social media posts as a lead-in for your NexoCams updates. Start an update on social media and finish it on NexoCams.
Keep your NexoCam posts mixed with free and paid content to entice your fans to become paying customers.
-Add one free (public) photo to your public timeline and then add additional photos, either from the same shoot/set or in the same theme, to a premium content photo post.
-Add a free (public) short teaser video trailer (60 seconds) or multiple free screen shots as a photo post of a longer premium content video post.
-Add a free (public) short teaser text post and finish it with a premium content text post. Ex. An erotic story continued in a paid post or a secret/confession in a premium post.
-Post dates/times in advance on your social media of when you'll be broadcasting so your fans know when they come watch your live cam.
Engage your audience.
-Use the tools built in to social media platforms, like polls, to find out what your fans really want to see.
-Use free online fan forums as a way to market your NexoCam account by posting and sharing your unique referral link
-Use link exchanges to share your referral link or share your link with other models via link exchanges on personal websites.
If you have any questions or need assistance with your account, please contact us: https://nexocams.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Kind Regards,
NexoCams Team
laurielegs
12-12-2017, 09:47 PM
Yep, they really expect us to drive all the traffic.
Yeah I'm completely disappointed in this site.
If I'm driving my own traffic it certainly wouldn't be to here. I'd use LCMS or Indybill and keep more of my money! Do they seriously think we don't have other options?
They are going about this the wrong way. WHYYYY are they not promoting it on clips4sale?? That's the main reason I was excited about this because I thought it would appear to my clip customers with an indicator on my page and they would see that I'm live.
Classy_Katy
12-31-2017, 02:41 AM
Some traffic assistance...
Don't Miss Out! NexoCams is Gearing Up
for a Massive Promotional & Traffic Push!
If you haven't signed up yet, now is the time to register for your account!
If you have already signed up, now is the time to go live on cam and post new content on your timelines!
Get in on the ground floor with our partner site, NexoCams.com and reap the benefits of high quality traffic directly from Clips4Sale!
All customers of Clips4Sale will now be directly targeted with advertisements for NexoCams when they purchase and download clips. Plus, a new CAMS link has been added to the header of Clips4Sale.com too!
The media blitz is about to hit! Sign-up Today and make sure your customers and fans can find you on the fetish industry's first adult social networking live cam site!
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DancesWithSloths
12-31-2017, 11:58 AM
If you haven't signed up yet, now is the time to register for your account!
I'll translate: "Oh fuuuuuck, IWantFanClub has launched!" :)
bbwbrianna
12-31-2017, 01:12 PM
I still don't see any models online. That really sucks because I love fetish based sites but I'm not gonna join if there's no traffic.
laurielegs
12-31-2017, 01:59 PM
Here is the thing that is missing for me - some sort of indicator that I am live put right on my clips4sale studio page.
Until that is available I don't see this working. If I have to drive my own traffic it will be to my own site where I can keep more of a percentage.
Why not use clips4sale traffic to our advantage by giving us this tool? Just a general link on the front of the site is not going to do much I don't think. Guys who want a particular fetish also want a particular performer so we need a big flashing LIVE sign right on our studio page.
I'd love to see this work so please consider giving us the tools on our studio page to get customers to our room.
Sam38g
01-01-2018, 11:41 PM
Yep, they really expect us to drive all the traffic. I just got this email:
Hello,
We want to help you kickstart your sales on NexoCams!
Here are some tips to turn your fans into paying customers and get more followers:
Use all of your social media platforms to promote your NexoCams feed.
-Take advantage of the Promo Tools in your account settings to auto-tweet your post updates.
-Keep your social media posts fresh, interesting and varied. Don't use the same text or image more than twice.
-Use your social media posts as a lead-in for your NexoCams updates. Start an update on social media and finish it on NexoCams.
Keep your NexoCam posts mixed with free and paid content to entice your fans to become paying customers.
-Add one free (public) photo to your public timeline and then add additional photos, either from the same shoot/set or in the same theme, to a premium content photo post.
-Add a free (public) short teaser video trailer (60 seconds) or multiple free screen shots as a photo post of a longer premium content video post.
-Add a free (public) short teaser text post and finish it with a premium content text post. Ex. An erotic story continued in a paid post or a secret/confession in a premium post.
-Post dates/times in advance on your social media of when you'll be broadcasting so your fans know when they come watch your live cam.
Engage your audience.
-Use the tools built in to social media platforms, like polls, to find out what your fans really want to see.
-Use free online fan forums as a way to market your NexoCam account by posting and sharing your unique referral link
-Use link exchanges to share your referral link or share your link with other models via link exchanges on personal websites.
If you have any questions or need assistance with your account, please contact us: https://nexocams.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Kind Regards,
NexoCams Team
Sorry, I am just cracking up. They relatively have no experience in this market, YET giving advice on it.
So how many current or ex-cam models do they have working behind the scenes at C4s? I'm really curious, who is giving them professional been there done that type of advice. OR is it a bunch of men behind the scenes once again telling us how to make money on cam........... cause I am really over that nonsense.
C4s Twitter following MAINLY comes from them using us & the stores on there by retweeting and such to get a following. Not like they built it all on their own like many of us had too. Not the men, not there own content created by the female models. So them giving advice on social media they built their own following on is just insulting at this point.
For some reason or another I just expect more or better of them than the typical cam start up bs we've seen lots of start up preach to us.
Once again we are asked to rally around & make something else a success. Shouldn't we be asking what's in it for us??
I don't put a lot of effort into my c4s store or Mv, but most of my sales are driven by my traffic & my fans NOT their's. Why does the information or emails like this just seem condescending to me? They are asking models who are experienced sales people with decent social media followings, experienced cam girls & treating us like newbies.
Competition is growing & these companies are NOT chasing newbies who have never done this but performers who have a proven successful history at content creating & camming cross overs. But we are all being treated like newbies instead of seasoned successful performers.
It is us who make this companies rich & grow but we are NOT being recognized for it. We are NOT being recognized by them or the industry, especially when they treat us like newbies with such advice like this. By people who have NEVER been in front of the camera and know how to convert people into a sale.
We are the sales team who are NOT being appreciated or acknowledged yet we make these companies millions when all added up. We are being asked to make C4S more millions with ZERO stake into the company or any kind of stock options most start ups tech companies offer those who join it.
Once again we are being asked to sit in an empty cam room, to promote it, to use OUR customers to drive traffic & sales. Once again to take a PAY CUT rather than just cam on another cam site network with guarantee of traffic & where we will make more money to make someone else richer. If you are independent & have Indie bill you can make 85%, C4S offers 70% from your traffic. If I sign guys up through my cammodel link I will make 75 % of what he spends & 20% of what he spends on other performers. So is it even competitive enough with what I can make in other places?
Let's say I average $150 an hour on SM, what will I average per hour on C4S? So same amount of time & energy but a pay cut for me and I get what in return for it? NOTHING!
What's in it for us?? Being treated like newbies once again by people who never have to face the same stigma like we do in public, when renting a place & such.
Sam38g
01-01-2018, 11:51 PM
Love to see Neil turn on his cam & shake his ass for money to show us how it is done.
platinumpuzzy
01-14-2018, 08:05 PM
Will there be a way for these features to appear on your C4S page? It would be nice if they'd create a modual that shows your timeline from your studio. A copy/paste code maybe? How MFC Share can be added to your profile and also the videos showing while you're live streaming. Something like that!
You knowvwhat feature I really like is how during ManyVids takeovers you can see customers making purchases. Thats dope and promotes sales. Does MFC do it like that as well?
That would be a great feature = have the LIVE option on your stores so customers that are browsing can come cam with you. You could encourage them to make a purchase and watch with them. (if you were open to that)
platinumpuzzy
01-14-2018, 08:09 PM
Sorry, I am just cracking up. They relatively have no experience in this market, YET giving advice on it.
So how many current or ex-cam models do they have working behind the scenes at C4s? I'm really curious, who is giving them professional been there done that type of advice. OR is it a bunch of men behind the scenes once again telling us how to make money on cam........... cause I am really over that nonsense.
C4s Twitter following MAINLY comes from them using us & the stores on there by retweeting and such to get a following. Not like they built it all on their own like many of us had too. Not the men, not there own content created by the female models. So them giving advice on social media they built their own following on is just insulting at this point.
For some reason or another I just expect more or better of them than the typical cam start up bs we've seen lots of start up preach to us.
Once again we are asked to rally around & make something else a success. Shouldn't we be asking what's in it for us??
I don't put a lot of effort into my c4s store or Mv, but most of my sales are driven by my traffic & my fans NOT their's. Why does the information or emails like this just seem condescending to me? They are asking models who are experienced sales people with decent social media followings, experienced cam girls & treating us like newbies.
Competition is growing & these companies are NOT chasing newbies who have never done this but performers who have a proven successful history at content creating & camming cross overs. But we are all being treated like newbies instead of seasoned successful performers.
It is us who make this companies rich & grow but we are NOT being recognized for it. We are NOT being recognized by them or the industry, especially when they treat us like newbies with such advice like this. By people who have NEVER been in front of the camera and know how to convert people into a sale.
We are the sales team who are NOT being appreciated or acknowledged yet we make these companies millions when all added up. We are being asked to make C4S more millions with ZERO stake into the company or any kind of stock options most start ups tech companies offer those who join it.
Once again we are being asked to sit in an empty cam room, to promote it, to use OUR customers to drive traffic & sales. Once again to take a PAY CUT rather than just cam on another cam site network with guarantee of traffic & where we will make more money to make someone else richer. If you are independent & have Indie bill you can make 85%, C4S offers 70% from your traffic. If I sign guys up through my cammodel link I will make 75 % of what he spends & 20% of what he spends on other performers. So is it even competitive enough with what I can make in other places?
Let's say I average $150 an hour on SM, what will I average per hour on C4S? So same amount of time & energy but a pay cut for me and I get what in return for it? NOTHING!
What's in it for us?? Being treated like newbies once again by people who never have to face the same stigma like we do in public, when renting a place & such.
You make some valid points here.
Classy_Katy
01-19-2018, 02:10 PM
New NexoCams Timeline Widget Now Available
We have just released a new dynamic widget that you can add to any website, including your Clips4Sale store!
The widget updates automatically as you go live on cam, or add new videos, photos and life posts. It's the easiest and fastest way to promote yourself to connect with your fans in real-time! Plus, you can add a short promotional video which will be used to advertise when you are broadcasting live. Your promo video will appear as your profile image on NexoCams whenever you are live camming.
To get your custom widget code just log into your NexoCams account and click on MENU - Settings - Widgets
You have the choice of a light or dark widget in three different sizes and layouts.
Just copy and paste the code on your website or on your Clips4Sale store to advertise your NexoCams account.
To add your custom widget to your Clips4Sale clip store just log into your ADMIN and click on CLIP STORE - EDIT CLIP SITE then paste the widget code into the TOP HTML section and submit your changes.
Now your fans will be able to see when you go live or add new content because your new NexoCams widget will automatically update!
It's that easy!
NexoCams Team
NexoCams.com
naomi_doll
01-19-2018, 02:11 PM
Hmmmm, I may have to put this on the list of eggs I need to work on this year now. We'll see.
Classy_Katy
01-19-2018, 02:34 PM
That top section isn't seen by customers unless they know to scroll up to see our store info...
TheBrownFox
03-08-2018, 06:33 PM
I may have to check this out. It'd be nice to get away from the numbnuts in free chat (CB and MFC).
Classy_Katy
03-18-2018, 01:17 AM
Introducing PRE-BOOKED SHOWS by NexoCams!
80% Commission on All Entry Tickets/Tips to your Pre-Booked Shows!
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Pre-Booked Show Features
New Pre-Booked Show page on the main NexoCams site: https://www.nexocams.com/pre-booked-shows
Custom photo or short video (15 - 30 seconds) promo graphic.
Custom show title and full description (up to 2000 characters).
Custom tags (keywords) to help fans search for you and your scheduled show by fetish tags.
Unique Location feature, you can be as exact (New York) or as vague (In Your Dreams) as you want.
Show times can be as short as 30 minutes or as long as you want!
Tickets or Tips - We offer two ways of selling your Pre-Booked Show.
You set your own price per person or minimum tickets needed for the show to begin!
Unique link for each Pre-Booked Show so you can quickly advertise different types of shows.
Easy social media sharing options to Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, Tumblr or Email.
Simple show management allowing editing of a scheduled show or if you need to cancel a show, that's easy too!
Take your live cam to the next level and create your first Pre-Booked Show now!
Pre-Booked Show Commission
80% for all Entry Ticket/Tips (the entry ticket/tip is the price you set to enter your Pre-Booked Show)
70% for all Referral Tips received during your show (referral is anyone who buys into your show who is a subscriber to your timeline or used your custom link to enter your show and then tips you)
40% for all Non-Referral Tips received during the show (non-referral is anyone who in not a subscriber to your timeline that buys into your show directly through the main site and tips you)
For more information, check out our step-by-step Pre-Booked Show set-up guide here:
https://nexocams.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000696234-Pre-Booked-Shows-Live-Cam-Set-Up
Minimum cam show time is 30 minutes!
SylvySinclair
03-18-2018, 09:02 AM
Has anyone actually cammed there? Is there traffic?
Classy_Katy
05-11-2018, 09:54 AM
Get Ready for the RUSH!
As of today, May 11, 2018 your commission on NexoCams will be 80% from Cams: tips, private, group and nude chat for the next SIX (6) MONTHS on all traffic you push to your NexoCams account using your personalized REFERRALS link (Get your link by going to: Menu -> Settings -> Referrals).
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MissAdriana
05-11-2018, 02:01 PM
Has anyone actually cammed there? Is there traffic?
I did I think a total of 6 hours on there so far. Nobody during that time
Miss-Trust
05-29-2018, 09:21 AM
Anyone having any luck with this site yet? I'm always on the look put for cam sites that cater for femdom as I don't do vanilla at all.
I've just had a nosey on there and even though they seem to have plenty of people signed up, no one seems to be online.
I'm not sure wether to give it a shot or not. The 40% commission really puts me off. They need to provide alot of traffic to warrant taking 60% off us. At 40% I'll have to put my rates up quite High to make it worth it.
To be honest, I think clips4sale can do alot better than this. You would also think that if they have the money for new projects like this then they would start by updating their clip site first.
X
MissAdriana
10-06-2018, 09:54 AM
Anyone having any luck with this site yet? I'm always on the look put for cam sites that cater for femdom as I don't do vanilla at all.
X
I was wondering too. I did 4 hours $0 but saw a few people online that were actually chatting
MistressX
03-15-2019, 03:43 PM
Cammed on there a couple days ago. Nobody even chats. In 2 hours I saw maybe 3 people. It's not worth camming there.
MissAdriana
03-16-2019, 12:17 PM
It's not worth camming there.
Seconding this. I tried it again about a month ago for a few hours there were the same people in my room they were in there popping in every time I log on and dont respond. It happened so much that I was questioning if they were just hardcore freeloaders or bots. It could still have potential for promotion I guess
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-03-2019, 09:41 AM
Nexocams is now LoyalFans. They did a name change.https://blog.clips4sale.com/b/nexocams-com-is-evolving-into-loyalfans-com/
NexoCams evolves into LoyalFans!
It's better, faster and easier to use, over the past twelve months, the entire team has worked to make one of the best fan sites out there.
Starting with August we are pleased to give you access with the same credentials used in NexoCams on LoyalFans! so you don't have to make a new account the old one will work perfectly
laurielegs
09-03-2019, 04:25 PM
The weirdest thing about loyalfans camming is that even in free chat, nobody can see you unless 1) they are already signed up to the site and 2) they are actually following you.
Recipe for failure seems to me.
What I was hoping for was some sort of indicator on clips4sale right on my page when I go live there and that a potential customer could click and see me instantly. I wouldn't object to being able to go private-only but the way this is set up nobody is going to find us. There seems to be no indicator that I am even live unless someone is following me and logged in.
MissAdriana
09-04-2019, 10:59 AM
"LoyalFans seamlessly connects all types of artists, entertainers, musicians, writers, and influencers to their fans and friends. " Loyal fans is trying to compete with only fans now?
SuperPookie
09-05-2019, 04:04 PM
The weirdest thing about loyalfans camming is that even in free chat, nobody can see you unless 1) they are already signed up to the site and 2) they are actually following you.
Recipe for failure seems to me.
What I was hoping for was some sort of indicator on clips4sale right on my page when I go live there and that a potential customer could click and see me instantly. I wouldn't object to being able to go private-only but the way this is set up nobody is going to find us. There seems to be no indicator that I am even live unless someone is following me and logged in.
Why in the world would a site do this smh? It's ridiculous.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-05-2019, 04:34 PM
I don't understand why they don't just call it Clips4SaleLive? I mean they own the domain so why not use it for Nexocams/Loyalfans? They don't even use the same color scheme and branding as C4S? It's kinda weird. And LaurieLegs you are so right! Why isn't there an indicator on our C4S pages to let guys know we are available? Even if it was just a coded module that we could copy paste into the page that would be great. I still make more money on C4S than any other content site outside of my own. All that kinky traffic is unmatched. I was really hoping for better integration.
Blovely
09-05-2019, 09:58 PM
Smh, they just can't get it right when it comes to livestreaming. Isn't this the 2nd or 3rd time that they've tried to launch a camsite? If they put in the same energy and resources that they did with Clips4sale they would've had an amazing camsite.
With the comments so many of us make I feel like these websites should hirer camgirls as UI/UX designers, consultants, IT/Business analyst, etc. I really don't understand how some of these sites have a staff/a team of people yet us "simple" little camgirls stay pointing out things that their team should've been all over.
-Rant over
MissAdriana
10-05-2019, 09:28 AM
I think it could be a good side egg. I will be trying it out for sure. I did a short broadcast this week just to test it and I had viewers but I couldn't tell if they were my followers or not. So I wonder how it will look if your subs are in the chat.
justsometwat
11-13-2019, 11:01 AM
So, I don't understand this. I was trying to send out a Studio email from C4S and to include a new promo price for my LoyalFans. When I went to copy the referral/promo link it gave me a tinyurl link that I used in my Studio email.
When I went to send the studio email it came back saying Tinyurl links were not allowed. Instead I got the direct referral link and included it in my email. I also used a LoyalFans image of the widget (since you cannot use the actual widget in the email - coding doesn't work). My email was approved and sent out.
I emailed support, letting them know that this seemed like an oversight. Doesn't make sense to make it a tinyurl link if C4S doesn't allow you to use them. I get an email back -
Thanks for the information and we are sorry for the trouble, sadly, this is in part due to the fact that OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) is no longer connected to Clips4Sale as Nexocams used to be and technically OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) shouldn't be promoted via Clips4Sale.
We are sorry for the trouble and we thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Clips4Sale.com
LoyalFans is moving on a separate website from Clips4Sale, different than how the relationship used to be with Clips4Sale while it was Nexocams.
I don't understand why this is separate and cannot be promoted through C4S. Neil talks about Nexocams and it's move to LoyalFans - which Nexocams now redirects to in one of his livestreams.
Are they no longer affiliated with C4S? Now that Nexocams is no longer a live site and directs to LoyalFans - which WAS paying out via C4S according to my payouts - are they simply a standalone website?
What's the point in having this kind of fan club site if I cannot use C4S to promote if it still belongs to C4S? I tried looking for information via C4S's FAQ and cannot find ANYTHING on Nexocams or C4S. That's really odd. There's nothing in the help portion of LoyalFans' support.
SuperPookie
11-13-2019, 11:44 AM
^^^ that just makes 0 sense. If we can't promote it at all through C4S than there's no point to it at all because if you're just looking for a self advertised fan club OnlyFans & MVCrush pay more and you can always advertise cam there.
justsometwat
11-13-2019, 12:54 PM
And it's just so weird, they have seriously removed ALL info on Nexocams and LoyalFans from C4S. There were blogs written about it that have now been taken down completely. According to the info I found it appears Neil still owns LoyalFans, so I don't understand why there is a disconnect between the two sites and why they never bothered publicly announcing this.
If there is a division between C4S and LoyalFans then this means there's no help from MindGeek to bring traffic or advancements - as they say it will with C4S - (eye roll) to LF. How will they provide traffic if we are not allowed to advertise on C4S?! Even then will there be an update to the rules to prohibit advertising LF on our C4S studios? Will there be an announcement?
They cannot leave us in the dark about this. Either the Support agent was wrong/mistaken or they quietly separated C4S and LF, but why?
If I cannot use C4S to advertise then I am better off sticking to IWFC or MV-Crush to sell club subscriptions. As of right now LoyalFan's website has no main page to view fanclubs, it seems you ONLY have the option of directly linking your page. For MV crush your fans have to go to your video page and sub there, but at least its combined traffic and not standalone traffic as LF seems to be.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-13-2019, 08:54 PM
Thanks for the information and we are sorry for the trouble, sadly, this is in part due to the fact that OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) is no longer connected to Clips4Sale as Nexocams used to be and technically OnlyFans (corrected in new email to say LOYALFANS - mistype from Support) shouldn't be promoted via Clips4Sale.
We are sorry for the trouble and we thank you for your understanding.
Regards,
Clips4Sale.com
Wait! Are you saying that you got a response from C4S referring to their OWN product as OnlyFans instead of Loyal Fans? :D No way!
justsometwat
11-13-2019, 09:04 PM
Yup, I was so confused because I said LoyalFans numerous times and they still called it OnlyFans lol
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
11-13-2019, 09:11 PM
Yup, I was so confused because I said LoyalFans numerous times and they still called it OnlyFans lol
This is bad. Very very bad. LMAO Even their support staff prefers OnlyFans subscriptions. Oof!
Miss_Bohemian
11-14-2019, 02:37 AM
Im not 100% sure but I think Neil said something like LoyalFans is a side project where he participates with another guy that works on C4S too (Darius or Dan?¿).
Maybe I'm mixing the info but he said something like that on a webinar.
I'm checking LoyalFans and now the payment info doesn't connect to C4S...
It offers ACH($), Wire transfers($), Paxum and SEPA(€).
And you have to reach $100 for payout!!!! :O >:(
A BIG SHIT /:O
They should tell us!! I'm not sure what I'm going to do on that site, I dont want to use the subscriptions....
I was on cam a couple of times on May and that's all the money I earned on the site. I got the money through C4S... I didn't reach $100 :-X
justsometwat
11-14-2019, 01:13 PM
I am wondering if they are doing this to make it more of a vanilla kind of site and try not to be associated with adult sites. It's under a different LLC as well. They should have at least said something about it.
MissAdriana
11-17-2019, 10:14 AM
I'm checking LoyalFans and now the payment info doesn't connect to C4S...
It offers ACH($), Wire transfers($), Paxum and SEPA(€).
And you have to reach $100 for payout!!!! :O >:(
Yeah I find it pretty STUPID and RIDICULOUS that we have to add our payment info again. We didn't have to transfer our accounts so why all of our personal info didn't transfer? Just yet another chore for us to do
SuperPookie
11-19-2019, 12:23 PM
I went on yesterday and tried to delete my account and couldn't find anyway to do so and have yet to hear back from support.
MissAdriana
12-27-2019, 06:24 PM
Yeah I find it pretty STUPID and RIDICULOUS that we have to add our payment info again. We didn't have to transfer our accounts so why all of our personal info didn't transfer? Just yet another chore for us to do
I just checked this again and it says $500 for payout? And it had all my c4s payouts listed on there. Try to look at my gifs and videos tabs big 404 ERROR PAGE. Why doesn't it count our gifs and clips for us? It would be nice to put in our page how much quantity the guys are getting when they sign up. Talk about making it harder for us. That could easily be an automated thing.
I see in the broadcaster section they added a tip goal and countdown but I can't figure out how to set it/change it
misspandora
04-10-2020, 04:00 PM
Anybody have any more updates on Loyalfans? Just wondering..I did an "In the Clipzone" interview with Neil, and he didn't want me to mention Loyalfans. So I'm not even sure if they're still connected to Clips4Sale. I just started a profile on Loyalfans and am having a little trouble figuring out how it works.
justsometwat
04-10-2020, 04:14 PM
They aren't connected anymore. You cannot even post c4s links on the loyalfans page and you aren't allowed to advertise loyalfans on c4s. I deleted my account when this happened. If I cannot advertise it to my c4s customers then there's no point.
laurielegs
04-11-2020, 11:55 PM
I was curious how it looks from the customer's end. I'm floored at the way this site is set up. I registered a customer account with a different email.
The search function pulls up nothing if you search for a common term like "big tits". The ONLY thing the search engine seems to actually search is usernames.
You have to type in the exact username to find anyone.
I see no way to browse profiles. Lets say you do type someone's name in and find their profile - there is no post count, no video count, no way to see how much content anyone has there unless you click a category and page down to view the timeline one by one.
I really thought this had potential but since there is no way to promote it on C4S and they have no way to browse or even see if a person is on the live cam (unless you already found them and followed them) doesn't seem worth it.
I just don't understand why clips4sale is killing the site like this. They could have set it up to show a little window on our c4s page when live and attract clip customers. I'm so puzzled why they want to pass up that opportunity.
justsometwat
04-12-2020, 05:59 AM
I Don't know what they are up to but it sucks. They had bought customs4u and I was really excited about being able to offer customs then they never did anything with that site.
I was really excited to have a competitor to iwantfanclub but they really ruined that. The way it looks I swear they were trying to make a site to compete with onlyfans but? It's like Neil is bored and making little projects that he keeps abandoning.
Rispy_Girl
04-12-2020, 11:50 AM
The weirdest thing about loyalfans camming is that even in free chat, nobody can see you unless 1) they are already signed up to the site and 2) they are actually following you.
Recipe for failure seems to me.
What I was hoping for was some sort of indicator on clips4sale right on my page when I go live there and that a potential customer could click and see me instantly. I wouldn't object to being able to go private-only but the way this is set up nobody is going to find us. There seems to be no indicator that I am even live unless someone is following me and logged in.
I think it could have worked if you could link to your c4s store and people could get a preview of who you are that way. Disconnecting from c4s makes this style unsustainable. Well along with many other reasons listed like lack of functionality.
itsnightlight
05-14-2020, 11:22 PM
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