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jasmine22
10-31-2017, 03:57 PM
https://www.thenation.com/article/dc-may-soon-be-the-first-us-city-to-decriminalize-sex-work/

if that happens Other states may follow, I honestly wonder if this is good or bad.

I think this is great for escorts, because it would allow them to work safely without the hassle of screening for law enforcement. However if an escort gets hurt...will the police still take her complaint seriously? Let’s hope that’s the case.

If prostitution is allowed to be legalized in strip clubs, then it changes the dynamic of club management to pimps. If pimping is not allowed, then it could change how strip clubs operate(but probably not).

I just wonder if the business model for a typical strip club is still relavent, it seems they are turning into nightclubs with dancers or brothels.

arielbriel
10-31-2017, 05:27 PM
IDK, all those rich suburbs surrounding DC are super conservative. I just don't forsee the politicians and their wives allowing this. You can't even give a proper lapdance in DC..

slowpoke
10-31-2017, 05:34 PM
Escorts will be in competition with eighteen year old high schoolers charging fifty dollars.

Djoser
10-31-2017, 06:56 PM
Stripclubs with quasi-legal prostitution have existed for 10-20 years in various parts of the country. Hell I worked in that kind of club off and on for several years up in Daytona. I was literally a pimp, if egging guys on to get 'dances' (really blowjobs most of the time) counted. I didn't realize just how bad it was until after I left there, but I knew it was going on.

However I can see how having it right out there, openly legal, might change things a bit in some other places.

miss.a.p1600
10-31-2017, 07:07 PM
^^^^ I just damn near spit my drink out

trustfundkiller
10-31-2017, 07:08 PM
This would be a huge step in the right direction. Prostitution is legal in the UK (minus solicitation) and strip clubs continue to thrive as entertainment venues rather than brothels, and that will likely be the case if prostitution is legalized here. Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada, but yet the Nevada strip club industry remains even though a man can visit the Bunny Ranch and legally pay for sex. Not every man who walks into a strip club wants to have sex with a dancer, and not every dancer working is willing to deliver. Legal or not, I don't think prostitution should be allowed in strip clubs because it's an unrelated service, although that won't completely stop it from happening since prostitution is illegal and yet it happens in many clubs.

I hope law enforcement would take escorts' complaints seriously, but I believe law enforcement is corrupt so there's really no telling. As with everything else, I'm sure in some cases they'll respond appropriately and in others they won't.

E.S. Camgirl, Ph.D.
11-01-2017, 01:08 PM
Whether or not this passes is one thing. Assuming it does (which is a long shot, but I'm here for discussion), while Full Service sex work would be decriminalized (and of course, any contact-related service, whether it's considered "full" by the client or not), I think it would be possible and appropriate to limit its presence in a strip club, but it would likely be left to management should they choose to do so. For example, alcohol is legal, and after 21 you can legally drink as much as you'd like, but if you drink on the job, your employer can fire you. Likewise, prostitution may be decriminalized, but its presence in the strip club would be mostly up to management to decide upon. There could be other, legal options as well. For example, in my town, you can serve drinks at a *topless* bar, but a full-nude club cannot serve alcohol (we have wide permissions on byob venues, however). It could be that the city allows liquor licenses for dance-only clubs, but denies liquor to full-service optional clubs. I imagine employers' insurance policies would change in various ways, and for their own self preservation (imagine being sued if you knew a dancer had an STD and was still taking full-service clients despite knowledge of her status), they'd likely do what they can to limit FS in the clubs. And of course, there's always good old Visa and Mastercard, who may simply deny credit-card processing services to FS strip clubs, similar to how they stopped processing payments for backpage.

Decrim is important and imperative, but there are still so many ways to control sex workers' lives. :/

SuperJa
11-01-2017, 03:33 PM
We've had soft decrim in this city for decades and there's still no contact strip clubs thriving. As previous posters have stated it's a totally different service- strip clubs focus on erotic entertainment, massage parlors/brothels are on the services. You're not typically going to have a birthday/bachelor party at a brothel.

Also there's basically no interest in girls who work parlors to work clubs and vice versa. Working in a parlor, it's set up for those services. It's mandatory that the clients shower first, and you can clean yourself up after. You can openly discuss services and pricing. And between clients your free time is yours- no shows, no hustling (other than updating online work presences they may maintain). One of the girls I worked with briefly who worked in a massage parlor and briefly tried dancing said it was so frustrating how you really have to convince clients dances are worth their time and money, and the amount of guys who would sit there being like 'oh i'm just here for a beer/watching the game/whatever". In the massage parlor world, they showed up wanting the service, they just do a brief interview with the girls if they don't already have one picked off the website/prior visits, and pay the money.

Often club owners are also financially involved in the parlor scene as well (one club owner here also owns the massage parlor literally next door to his club) and so they keep those ventures super separate. When you already run a legal brothel and take a % off the girls working there, there is no way in hell you are going to let dancers get away with extras that you don't get a cut of.

Sam38g
11-01-2017, 10:25 PM
Not going to happen. Republicans are in charge.
This is the U.S and states are passing laws against porn, abortions, equal rights and against women in general.

Making it legal will mean those politicians who see hookers can be caught doing it a lot easier, they are not going to allow that to happen.

Blovely
11-12-2017, 07:27 AM
I hope one day prostitution will became legal all over the US, I'll probably be dead by then lol. If they actually put rules in place and facilities it could work and it would create alot more jobs not just for pros but for other people in between ....nurses, management, police/security, etc. Its crazy to me how a person is not allowed to sell or do what they want with their own body under their own terms. Like you can use every other part of your body to make money...your hands, brain, legs, arms, etc but god forbid you want to use your cooch or penis to make you money. USA can be so progressive but it also can be the most oppressive, repressive and uptight place. Prostitution isn't the oldest profession for nothing. They can keep trying to repress it all they want but people will always find away to get or do what they want.

slowpoke
11-12-2017, 10:25 AM
DC is full of people who get paid to screw us. They are called politicians.

Snowy0Star
11-12-2017, 11:16 AM
Anyone know of it passed or has it not been voted for yet ? If not when is the vote date ? Im going to be watching this situation heavily because I've been toying with the idea of getting back into body rubs and it would be awesome to move into an area where I wont have to worry about getting busted for prostitution again.... (witch is why i stopped and starting camming)

Sam38g
11-12-2017, 01:24 PM
If it had passed all the headlines in the U.S. would be putting it on blast.

ZeroSugarMonster
11-12-2017, 11:37 PM
If it were to become legal or decriminalized, I don't think we know how it'll play out yet. Prices will probably plummet; demand will go up. But how low will the prices go?

I have no interest in body-rubs as someone mentioned but I've toyed with the alternatives to stripping. I feel as though with the illegality in place, it makes it all the more crucial to hide behind the protection of a pimp. That comes with it's own sorts of problems.

To piggy-back to what's said above about how crazy it is that US can be so repressive and conservative: I think it's crazy how sexual harassment, 'grabbing a woman by the pussy', and violent sexual assault such as in Brock Turner's case is like, almost totally legal in the US. And yet, it would be illegal, not to mention preposterous in our culture, for a woman to turn around to some asshole sexually harassing her and proposition him with x for y dollars.

Sam38g
11-12-2017, 11:51 PM
Actually, we do know how it will play out because it is legal in several countries in Europe.

ZeroSugarMonster
11-13-2017, 12:39 AM
It's also legal in certain parts of Australia, where it's either decriminalized, legalized or illegal. It's legal in New Zealand. And pimping is legal in some rural countries in Nevada under the guise of legalized prostitution.

So no, we don't know how it'll play out because all those countries are different, with non-criminalized prostitution bearing different, nuanced outcomes.

ZeroSugarMonster
11-13-2017, 12:40 AM
And I'm leaving out parts of Latin America where it's legal or decriminalized.

So anyhow, I really do think culture is important in how it all plays out.

I know Europe gets a bad rap with sex work yielding not as high reward as we like, but I don't think this will necessarily be the case in the US.

Sam38g
11-13-2017, 03:52 AM
Germany it is legal.
How will it play out in the U.S.?
We are soooo far from that even being a possibility.
There is too much money being made off of arresting & fining prostitutes in every city here. IT is a cash cow for the system.
When it comes to Federal funds they get allotted by how many arrest made the previous year. Much easier to do s prostitution ring & make 10 to 100 arrest in one night than to arrest that number of drug dealers or tail light out tickets in the same period of time.

How many sex workers are raped by Cops? Decriminalizing it would mean those cases would possible get investigated and those cops put in jail. Decriminalizing it means sex workers wouldn't have to hide & take credit cards as a payment. How many married guys in elected offices want that paper trail to be that easy?

As long as it is illegal it gives men in the U.S. a major tool against women, teenage run aways & the transgender stories against to many so-called up standing citiizens protected by marginalizing all of us.

It is a power play and the powers in control now are just NOT going to allow. Every single right wing Christian would be boycotting in the streets & no elected official will back it because of that.

To get such laws changed take lobbyist on the State & Federal level, who's going to fund that endeavor.

I am for making it legal, but being practical on the realities of it. If it was legal then a Union could be started & prices set.. but at the end of the day now. Men can find a drug addict who works the streets & pay $5. How much you charge & get is really determined by your sales pitch & ability to close not by what others are charging.

ZeroSugarMonster
11-13-2017, 03:28 PM
OK. That makes sense. It's all about the $$$ for the local, state and federal government. Le sign, there are so many things I wish I could change...