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whirlerz
12-17-2017, 11:26 AM
Yawn.

OK, this, I feel is a valid opinion from CNN..

The FCC has created an "Internet for the Elite", &, like everything else, this will be about $, & who has the most to spend will have the best.
Meanwhile, small businesses, startups, etc & of course the middle class will suffer, & the big businesses that already have way too much control will have a field day.

Edit, this is excellent, & thanks so much, BuffyFlame!

Originally Posted by BuffyFlame
I know this looks BAD, but there is hope. Keep calling and leaving VOICE messages to your congressman. Keep emailing, and talking on the phone with live reps. They still have to pass thru another branch of congress before it passes officially, and most importantly congress can still kill it by passing a resolution of disapproval.

Also, cell service isn't under Net Neutrality laws. It is essentially what home internet will become if NN passes, and we still get a good chunk of traffic from cell services.

Keep calling, and emailing congress. Demand a "Resolution of disapproval". And I mean use those words. "I DEMAND a resolution of disapproval for doing away with NN as a American citizen with rights that I feel are being in infringed upon to service big business" is what I saw when I call.

hyori
12-17-2017, 01:30 PM
I posted the following in the Camming Connection area of this forum:

The way to fight the loss of net neutrality is start your own ISP in your municipality.

Contact your local municipal representatives and start up advocacy groups. It's called municipal broadband (public broadband) and your city owns it. It's the best way to fight the loss of internet freedom because you no longer have to pay the shareholders. The interest and profit goes straight to the infrastructure and improving the service. It's a win/win for the community, the large ISP's and the economy.

Chattanooga, Tennessee and Fort Collins, Colorado have already successfully implemented municipal broadband with great results. They have the fastest fiber optic speeds and because of their top notch technology, they managed to attract several companies, resulting in more jobs and a better economy. Many cities all over the world have been successful in creating their own ISP's. You only need 1/3 of the population to subscribe to the service to have the system paid off in the first year of operation. The broadband speeds would be WAY more affordable and perhaps even free and can be customized to reach even rural areas. Apparently, even the dark network can be utilized, (dark network is infrastructure that has already been placed but not utilized because the monopoly ISP's don't see a need to activate them because there isn't enough profit for them).

Here are links to do you own research:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_broadband
https://community-broadband.ca/faq

Republicans are against municipal broadband. Make sure to vote for those who support it or else they will legislate a ban against advocacy groups who want to vote in city run ISP's.

whirlerz
12-17-2017, 06:36 PM
Well, Comcast & Charter want Congress to put it in effect already..

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-charter-want-congress-put-net-neutrality-repeal-203229421.html

Ifyouseekamy
12-18-2017, 12:27 AM
We need to put grassroots officials in office. The government is not working for the people

ScarletKitten
12-18-2017, 04:28 PM
We need to put grassroots officials in office. The government is not working for the people

Haha....if only. That ain't gonna happen though. The Federal Reserve/ Rothschilds/ Rockefellers, etc. are the ones who own this country and pretty much everything (oil industries, weapons industries, the banking systems, etc.)......the truth is: the government never worked for the people. It was always set up to fuck us over. It maintains the illusion of working for the people....but now they don't even give a shit anymore to continue maintaining that illusion. They are just blatantly fucking us up the ass with no lube and laughing all the way to the bank.

We need guerrilla internet.

Sam38g
12-18-2017, 05:11 PM
Haha....if only. That ain't gonna happen though. The Federal Reserve/ Rothschilds/ Rockefellers, etc. are the ones who own this country and pretty much everything (oil industries, weapons industries, the banking systems, etc.)......the truth is: the government never worked for the people. It was always set up to fuck us over. It maintains the illusion of working for the people....but now they don't even give a shit anymore to continue maintaining that illusion. They are just blatantly fucking us up the ass with no lube and laughing all the way to the bank.

We need guerrilla internet.

It will never be easy but Empires have been brought down before. :)

whirlerz
12-18-2017, 05:48 PM
Last Thursday, the FCC voted to gut the Title II Net Neutrality protections, willfully ignoring the outcry from millions of people like you. This ruling cannot stand.

We can't let Chairman Ajit Pai have the last word on this and that's why we're calling on Congress to overturn this vote. Urge your lawmakers to reverse the FCC's Net Neutrality repeal today.

That’s right. Congress has the power to restore the Net Neutrality rules we fought so hard for. Using the Congressional Review Act (CRA), Congress can pass a “resolution of disapproval” that would nullify the FCC’s repeal of Net Neutrality.

You may remember the CRA from last spring, when privacy opponents used it to roll back the Obama-era FCC’s strong broadband-privacy rules.1 Now we need to turn the tables and use the CRA to save the internet.

Tell Congress: Overturn the FCC's Net Neutrality-killing vote.

The CRA empowers Congress to review new regulations and pass a joint resolution of disapproval to overrule any recent regulations it doesn’t like. Overturning Pai’s misleadingly named “Restoring Internet Freedom Order” would leave us with the exact same Net Neutrality protections we won in 2015.

Think of it as a double negative: If we repeal Pai’s repeal, we could end up right back where we started — with strong Net Neutrality rules.

Contact your members of Congress today: Tell them to use a resolution of disapproval to overturn the FCC's vote to dismantle Net Neutrality.

As we fight for the open internet in the courts and in the streets, we need our allies in Congress to fight side by side for a clean rollback of Pai’s bogus plan.

Thanks for all that you do—

Lucia, Dana, Candace and the rest of the Free Press Action Fund team
freepress.net

P.S. The Net Neutrality fight isn’t over. Tell your members of Congress to undo the FCC’s repeal of Title II Net Neutrality.

1. “House Set to Unplug Broadband-Privacy Rules,” March 28, 2017, USA Today, https://act.freepress.net/go/18158?t=10&akid=7696%2E10670667%2E-yy87E

whirlerz
12-18-2017, 06:25 PM
Who will be hardest hit by NN?https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/18/net-neutrality-marginalised-america-open-internet-fcc

whirlerz
12-19-2017, 01:17 PM
Something not seen (at least by me) in the NN debate:
The internet was created by the US government, the Dept.of Defense, & built out by universities, & paid for by the TAXPAYERS.
Not by Comcast, AT&T, etc.

Sam38g
12-19-2017, 01:29 PM
Something not seen (at least by me) in the NN debate:
The internet was created by the US government, the Dept.of Defense, & built out by universities, & paid for by the TAXPAYERS.
Not by Comcast, AT&T, etc.

Yes, I know. But it was retired military computer specialist who told me, YEARS ago. They on purposely held back the speed of the internet so they could read all our emails & such since day one.

Which is why I say there are no secrets in this world.