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Raziel
07-30-2020, 10:40 AM
^that would ban 90% of men lol!!!

No it wouldn't, come on! 90% of men do not hit their women.

I realize you were being factious but needed to set the record straight. Many, many, men will not cheat on you and definitely won't hit you. I'm not the only one.

miss.a.p1600
07-31-2020, 11:27 AM
^^^good point Raziel.

I have to go back in her post but I believe I saw it say emotional and physical abuse.

More unsavory characters know they cant physically hit women cause they’ll get in trouble with the law n there’s evidence so instead they hit with words.

Thankfully I’ve never been physically abused by my partners/lovers/etc but the majority of them were emotionally abusive.

Ive had guys tell me no men would love me, that they hoped I’d be “dogged out” by other men, that I should “think small”, tamper with my birth control, etc.

I left them once the emotional abuse appeared of course because I knew that emotional abuse will destroy ones self esteem just as bad as physical abuse.

Good thing I have a relatively high self esteem despite dealing with men who I discovered didn’t respect me/women in general

Im dating a guy now who respects me is faithful and wouldn’t dare do any of this low level type behavior towards me (or women in general) so I know there are definitely good men out there.

Raziel
07-31-2020, 03:41 PM
miss.a.p1600, you had the wrong guys. Many, many men would never even have it occur to them to do that to you. I wouldn't (This isn't a come on, i don't come to Stripperweb to find a date). You just have to find them.

But they are out there. I'm not the only one.

miss.a.p1600
07-31-2020, 04:43 PM
Very true! I think ladies should always keep in mind your last 3 sentences.

Raziel
07-31-2020, 06:07 PM
Ive had guys tell me no men would love me, that they hoped I’d be “dogged out” by other men, that I should “think small”, tamper with my birth control, etc.

I don't even know what to say to that. I can't imagine a man saying that to you. I'm sorry it happened.


More unsavory characters know they cant physically hit women cause they’ll get in trouble with the law n there’s evidence so instead they hit with words.

Yeah, unfortunately, probably. People do that shit. Their are Women who do the same thing.


I left them once the emotional abuse appeared of course because I knew that emotional abuse will destroy ones self esteem just as bad as physical abuse.

GOOD. A lot of women try to fix him. She can't. She's in for a whole life of pain. I'm glad you didn't fall into that trap.


Good thing I have a relatively high self esteem despite dealing with men who I discovered didn’t respect me/women in general

Some guys are extremely selfish. They only care about themselves. You are an object for them to OWN. I tend to call my girlfriend "My girl" but i don't OWN her. They think they do.


IIm dating a guy now who respects me is faithful and wouldn’t dare do any of this low level type behavior towards me (or women in general) so I know there are definitely good men out there.

Good. He's a lucky dude.


Edit to add: Especially if a dude balls up his fist and punches you (This isn't Directed at you Miss.a.P1600) DROP HIM NOW. Don't wait. If he did it once, he WILL do it again. I know men. I am one. It's hard to change them. If he hits you LEAVE,

Someone who hits you... could be someone who kills you.

pinups4
07-31-2020, 06:30 PM
Have, and would again.

LOVE industry ladies as partners. Hustle, Muscle, Beauty and Brains

jack0177057
07-31-2020, 07:18 PM
I disagree. It's not always apparent whether the woman is interested in a man from the beginning. Unlike most men, who consider women's physical attributes the decisive factor whether he is interested in a relationship with her or not, a woman usually takes time to evaluate her potential partner's qualities. And it takes time to learn whether those qualities are up to her standards, or not.

And this: a stalker is someone who was clearly told that she was not interested, and he is still trying to pursue her. Someone who she is still potentially considering but she has not yet decided for certain one way or the other, is a prospect, not a stalker.

I completely agree. I'm not the tall, dark and handsome type of guy that goes into a club and pulls the 'digits' (or email, FB, IG or whatever it is these days) of the hottest girl there in under 10 minutes. Yet, I have dated very attractive girls way above my 'league' with a little pursuit. I have never pursued a girl when there is 0% chance and the pursuit will be a waist of my time and a creepy uncomfortable experience for her. There are subtle signs and hints a lady gives you to indicate that you have a shot with her if you put in some effort into it and play your cards right. If there is even a 10% chance that you can romance your way to dating her, its game on. Some guys think that is too much work and too old-fashioned, but, in the end, you get the prize and it's validating for both of you. The tricky thing in all human interaction is reading the nonverbal signs. If there is 0% interest, abort, because a pursuit will make you a stalker. But, if a lady gives you the smile that says - I'm not sure about you, but, try to impress me - then, there is nothing creepy about taking up her challenge.

Djoser
07-31-2020, 09:21 PM
Thankfully I’ve never been physically abused by my partners/lovers/etc but the majority of them were emotionally abusive...

...I left them once the emotional abuse appeared of course because I knew that emotional abuse will destroy ones self esteem just as bad as physical abuse.

Good thing I have a relatively high self esteem despite dealing with men who I discovered didn’t respect me/women in general

Im dating a guy now who respects me is faithful and wouldn’t dare do any of this low level type behavior towards me (or women in general) so I know there are definitely good men out there.

There's plenty of abusive women as well. Best if both men and women refuse to tolerate it. Blaming it all on men is a copout (not that you did, but I've seen it many times from others).

Glad you found a good one!

Golden_Rule
08-01-2020, 12:51 AM
And men should fully disclose if they have any mentally & physical abuse against past partners. Since 1/3 of men have at least once been physically violent with their sexual partner. And if so then they should be banned from ever entering a relationship again. They more so should remove themselves from society & have a worst stigma than women who have been sex workers.

Ok, wait a moment...

I am all about no one being unkind, and particularly being unfair, to anyone else, however I am hear to tell you that if 25 years of going into people's homes, dealing with the results of their worst selves, etc...

Men and women are different, equal but different...

One of ways we are very much the same is in precisely how unkind and unfair we can be with our partners. We may do so in different ways, but cruelty is not a male frailty, it is a human one.

So while you may very well be right in that folks who have any sort of history of cruelty be forbade further relationships, be prepared to dole that out equally across the spectrum and include all forms of abuse, mental as well as physical.

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...

Raziel
08-01-2020, 04:02 AM
About ten years ago, i lived in an apartment with a girl (who shall remain nameless). She took advantage of the fact i couldn't hit her. She'd hit ME. I think she'd been in an abusive relationship before and now she had the power. I just cannot bring myself to hit a Woman, ANY Woman. And she took advantage of that. Needless to say, the relationship ended. She was all SAD that i was leaving her. It blew my mind. I told her "have a nice life" and left. She was actually crying. But she was very abusive, so i didn't have a choice. I couldn't even defend myself! She was calling my phone, leaving messages and stuff, but the quick cut hurts least and heals fastest. This is the short version, but there are a LOT of stories i could tell about her.

So, yeah, there are abusive women out there.

miss.a.p1600
08-01-2020, 06:55 AM
Very true! There is no shortage of personality disordered people from both genders. Typically - of the subset of individuals who have personality disorders - men are more likely to be narcissistic personality disordered while women are more likely to be borderline personality disordered

I’ve watched plenty of Snapped shows and I think they’re almost always women going over the edge for whatever reason

If I dated women I could better understand that perspective but I never have been with a woman.

However as I woman I have learned not to hit men (unless it’s self defense) because while most men won’t hit back......there are some that will! —- And they’ll hit with more power.

As far as marriage....I’ve never told a guy I’m dating with a goal towards marriage that I used to work in adult industry. I’m not even sure I would (because it’s in the past and there is no hard proof I’m aware of) unless I knew for a fact he wouldn’t judge and wouldn’t let that piece of info influence his decision to continue in a long term relationship

Raziel
08-01-2020, 09:44 AM
To get back on topic, YES, I would marry a woman in the Adult Industry... If i loved her. But only then. I know the difference. Camgirl, if i loved her. Stripper, if i loved her. Not too sure about an active Escort (Again, nothing against Escorts), but an Ex-Escort, if i loved her. Porn Star, if i loved her. Anybody see a pattern, here?

If i loved her, i would marry her. I don't give a shit what her past is or what her job is.

miss.a.p1600
08-01-2020, 11:21 AM
^So at what point would you want them to tell you or do you think they should tell you if they don't work in the industry anymore (their is no proof that could come back later)?

I mean this thread actually reminds me of that other thread about the fetishes and how some guy was saying he didn't want to tell his wife his deepest fetish desires because some things should be left unsaid and he knew she was very straight-laced / would never understand and thought she would probably leave him.

Raziel
08-01-2020, 01:01 PM
I would probably tell them when i realized i loved them. Just, i don't know, hang it all out there.

Raziel
08-01-2020, 02:51 PM
As far as when they should tell me they work in the Adult Industry? (I apologize, i misread your post) As far as i go, and this is just me, they should tell me when they feel comfortable enough with me to share ANY information about herself. Not just that she's a Stripper or Camgirl or whatever, because i don't give a shit about that.. But her address, or even her last name. I just don't care until she cares. Then i care.

That's how it's always been. For me. I can't speak for other guys.

jack0177057
08-05-2020, 08:21 AM
^So at what point would you want them to tell you or do you think they should tell you if they don't work in the industry anymore (their is no proof that could come back later)?

If the lady is currently in the industry, I would want to know early on, like before sex. I think this is good for both parties. If the guy can't handle it and is going to dump you because you are a stripper or escort, he should do it before sleeping with you. Also, I feel like waiting to tell me until after sex is a bit manipulative.

As far as past involvement in the industry. I don't think you necessarily have to bring that up, unless the topic of past work comes up, because, if you try to hide the truth, you would have to start spinning an endless web of lies and you will eventually get caught in your lies and it will come off like you are ashamed of your past. That is worst than just saying the truth in the first place. The other situation where you should disclose your past to me is if I need a heads up about it. Like, if we are in a party somewhere with a lot of my professional peers and a few of them are likely to come up to you and say, "Jezebel, hi! Nice seeing you here! We miss seeing you at Stilletos, its just not the same since you left." This is specially true if you were an escort or a extras stripper, because, without a heads up, I may end up smashing some guy's face when I hear them whispering behind my back about my GF's professional skills.

Raziel
08-05-2020, 10:04 PM
I wouldn't really give a shit. Nothing against you, Jack, but i just care more about other things. Like does she hog the covers, or does she fart UNDER the covers (if she DUTCH OVENS me i'm gonna be pissed), or is she a good woman. I could care less if she's a Stripper. She doesn't even have to tell me that because i'm not going to care, anyway.

Again, i'm not so certain about a current active Escort (Nothing against Escorts, i just don't like the idea of other dudes sticking their dicks in my girl).

jack0177057
08-06-2020, 03:58 PM
I think the question is not about you specifically, Raziel, but more generally. Some guys may not give a shit, some may not be able to handle, and some may think its cool as fuck to date a stripper.

Raziel
08-06-2020, 04:04 PM
Some guys may not give a shit

These are the ones you want.


some may not be able to handle

These are some you DON'T want. They have some weird hangup about it. Sooner or later they will demand that you stop. They tend to think they own you.


and some may think its cool as fuck to date a stripper.

These are the ones you DEFINITELY don't want. All they'll do is show you off, they don't care about you. In their eyes you're just a Stripper. An object to stick their dicks in.

jack0177057
08-07-2020, 08:30 AM
^ I disagree that guys who don't give a shit are the best partners. How can you not give a shit about her job, which is a very big part of her life and her identity? If you really do not care, you must have a very shallow level of emotional involvement in the relationship. Sex work comes with a lot of work hazards and can lead to many problems. If a woman I was starting to date told me she was a police officer or in military service, or, any job with serious risks, I would be concerned, I would not - not give a shit. This does not mean I'm not going to handle it, but, I do give a shit. If I started dating a lady and she told me she was a stripper, I would have some questions, like: (1) Was it your choice to become a dancer or were you forced into, (e.g., to support a child, pay overdue bills, etc.)? (2) How do you feel about being an exotic dancer? (3) Do you feel safe at the club where you dance? (4) How much alcohol do you drink while you work? The dancers in this site tend to be very mature and smart about their work, but, not all dancers are like that. I would be happy to date a dancer who is a strong independent smart woman who chooses to dance because of the flexible hours and good pay, who is proud of her body and feels comfortable in her skin, who is responsible with her alcohol or drug consumption and who realizes that this line of work has a short life span and she is already thinking of her next career path. On the other hand, I would not date a dancer that hates dancing, but, feels like she is trapped and has no other option, has low self-esteem, has alcohol or drug dependency issues, has no ambition or goals for the future, etc.

jack0177057
08-07-2020, 08:42 AM
[Duplicate]

Raziel
08-07-2020, 09:22 AM
^ I disagree that guys who don't give a shit are the best partners. How can you not give a shit about her job, which is a very big part of her life and her identity? If you really do not care, you must have a very shallow level of emotional involvement in the relationship. Sex work comes with a lot of work hazards and can lead to many problems. If a woman I was starting to date told me she was a police officer or in military service, or, any job with serious risks, I would be concerned, I would not - not give a shit. This does not mean I'm not going to handle it, but, I do give a shit. If I started dating a lady and she told me she was a stripper, I would have some questions, like: (1) Was it your choice to become a dancer or were you forced into, (e.g., to support a child, pay overdue bills, etc.)? (2) How do you feel about being an exotic dancer? (3) Do you feel safe at the club where you dance? (4) How much alcohol do you drink while you work? The dancers in this site tend to be very mature and smart about their work, but, not all dancers are like that. I would be happy to date a dancer who is a strong independent smart woman who chooses to dance because of the flexible hours and good pay, who is proud of her body and feels comfortable in her skin, who is responsible with her alcohol or drug consumption and who realizes that this line of work has a short life span and she is already thinking of her next career path. On the other hand, I would not date a dancer that hates dancing, but, feels like she is trapped and has no other option, has low self-esteem, has alcohol or drug dependency issues, has no ambition or goals for the future, etc.


Because it isn't her identity. SHE is her identity. She has an entire life, not just as a Dancer or Camgirl.

Raziel
08-07-2020, 09:22 AM
BTW, hit enter every now and then to start a new paragraph. That was hard to read.

kamiliam
08-07-2020, 10:43 AM
^ I disagree that guys who don't give a shit are the best partners. How can you not give a shit about her job, which is a very big part of her life and her identity? If you really do not care, you must have a very shallow level of emotional involvement in the relationship. Sex work comes with a lot of work hazards and can lead to many problems. If a woman I was starting to date told me she was a police officer or in military service, or, any job with serious risks, I would be concerned, I would not - not give a shit. This does not mean I'm not going to handle it, but, I do give a shit. If I started dating a lady and she told me she was a stripper, I would have some questions, like: (1) Was it your choice to become a dancer or were you forced into, (e.g., to support a child, pay overdue bills, etc.)? (2) How do you feel about being an exotic dancer? (3) Do you feel safe at the club where you dance? (4) How much alcohol do you drink while you work? The dancers in this site tend to be very mature and smart about their work, but, not all dancers are like that. I would be happy to date a dancer who is a strong independent smart woman who chooses to dance because of the flexible hours and good pay, who is proud of her body and feels comfortable in her skin, who is responsible with her alcohol or drug consumption and who realizes that this line of work has a short life span and she is already thinking of her next career path. On the other hand, I would not date a dancer that hates dancing, but, feels like she is trapped and has no other option, has low self-esteem, has alcohol or drug dependency issues, has no ambition or goals for the future, etc.


would you give any woman the third degree like this if she wasn’t in the adult industry? These are really personal questions that are none of your business and not exclusive to the adult industry. How would you feel if you were analyzed to this extent? If I am close to a partner they would get the answers to those questions in due time. You come in with too many preconceived notions to even play around in your head the idea of dating a sex worker.

I used to divulge early because I am out/open about my career, but way too many guys think they know more about my job and why I do it. You don’t

Raziel
08-07-2020, 11:26 AM
would you give any woman the third degree like this if she wasn’t in the adult industry? These are really personal questions that are none of your business and not exclusive to the adult industry. How would you feel if you were analyzed to this extent? If I am close to a partner they would get the answers to those questions in due time. You come in with too many preconceived notions to even play around in your head the idea of dating a sex worker.

I used to divulge early because I am out/open about my career, but way too many guys think they know more about my job and why I do it. You don’t

Right on. Right on. She isn't JUST a Stripper, Camgirl, or Escort. She is a whole person. Worthy of respect.

The reason why i say Men who don't give a shit are the best guys is because they are the ones most likely to be interested in the REST of her. Guys that think it's awesome to date a Stripper just want to fuck her and impress their friends. They only care about her club life, they don't give a shit that she likes to Zipline, or play Miniature Golf, or whatever. Or that her favorite color is Purple. All they wanna do is bring their friends to the club and brag. All that guy is is a toy for her to play with, or a wallet she can use, especially if he's handsome. She'll fuck him for a little while, but the second she meets a guy that doesn't give a shit about her job, he's Gone. He's basically a glorified regular.

Raziel
08-07-2020, 12:07 PM
BTW, in the above post, i wasn't talking about every Dancer/Camgirl/Escort. They are a diverse group, not a monolith. I was illustrating my point.

Edit to add: How about awesome it is to date a WOMAN? Because that's what they are.

jack0177057
08-07-2020, 09:27 PM
would you give any woman the third degree like this if she wasn’t in the adult industry?

Like I already said, if she was in a profession that had inherent risks to it, yes. If she was in the military - absolutely. If she was a police officer - absolutely. If she was a teacher in a school with gang violence - absolutely. If I'm going to get seriously involved with someone, I want to know that she is safe and responsible. If I learned that she is in the military, she is going to the Middle East, and she is anxious to be in the front lines of combat - that would be a deal-breaker. If I learned that she is a dancer in a club where the patrons are dangerous thugs, the dancers are not adequately protected by the club, and she gets drunk and high every night - that would also be a deal-breaker.


These are really personal questions that are none of your business and not exclusive to the adult industry.

If I'm just having a casual good time with you, then, you are absolutely right - none of business. But, if we are in a seriously relationship that may lead to marriage, then, your 'business' is my 'business' too and vice versa.


She isn't JUST a Stripper, Camgirl, or Escort. She is a whole person.

You're stating the obvious. Look, my career does not define me - yes, I am more than just my career. Yet, my career is a big part of my life. My career is very demanding and very stressful. Some weeks I work 50-80 hour. I get two weeks of vacation a year, but, I cannot take time off longer than a week at a time due to the demands on my work. Clients call me on weekends and even when I'm on vacation. My career also affects limits my personal freedom - like, where I live, the people I spend time with, etc. [Hitting 'enter' now to make it easier for you to read.]

The POINT is - a person's occupation/career is a big part of his/her life and affects many aspects of that person.

There may be women that cannot be happy in a marriage with someone like me. I accept that. If I was starting to date a woman and she had questions about my career - like how many hours I work, whether or not I can take time off during the week for the kids' school events or sporting events, how stressful my job is, how I cope with the stress, what geographic limitations are imposed by my work, etc. - I would not resent these questions.

I think it would be smart for her to ask these questions. If she is thinking that I may be 'the one' with whom she will spend the rest of her life with, she should certainly give a shit about what I do for a living. After learning about my work and the commitments and limitations that it imposes on me, she may decide early on that my line of work is incompatible with the life she wants. The sooner she makes this realization, the better it is for both of us.

Raziel
08-08-2020, 05:47 AM
Better with the enter button, anyway.

miss.a.p1600
08-08-2020, 06:12 AM
I don’t think I would mention it.

Last night I joked around and told my dude I had an OnlyFans. (I don’t have one but have considered it)

The disappointment look was written all over his face. Like a deflated ballon.

Granted I did say this after we’ve gotten pretty close so if this were true it probably should have been divulged sooner but I still can’t help but feel like Most guys can’t handle the information. And WILL judge a woman for it and will probably reconsider marriage despite the honesty.

BTW I think we may have had this debate further upthread or another thread in that no one is 100% honest. Not even with their spouse. I mean we strive to be as honest as possible but I personally don’t think EVERY single detail about your past has to be divulged especially if it will have no effect on the future.

Raziel
08-08-2020, 06:19 AM
I don’t think I would mention it.

Last night I joked around and told my dude I had an OnlyFans. (I don’t have one but have considered it)

The disappointment look was written all over his face. Like a deflated ballon.

Granted I did say this after we’ve gotten pretty close so if this were true it probably should have been divulged sooner but I still can’t help but feel like Most guys can’t handle the information. And WILL judge a woman for it.

They shouldn't. It's not like you are out there sucking cock. It's an internet thing. These dudes don't even know where you are.

I wouldn't give two shits if my Girl had an Onlyfans.

Raziel
08-09-2020, 11:17 AM
^ I disagree that guys who don't give a shit are the best partners. How can you not give a shit about her job, which is a very big part of her life and her identity? If you really do not care, you must have a very shallow level of emotional involvement in the relationship. Sex work comes with a lot of work hazards and can lead to many problems. If a woman I was starting to date told me she was a police officer or in military service, or, any job with serious risks, I would be concerned, I would not - not give a shit. This does not mean I'm not going to handle it, but, I do give a shit. If I started dating a lady and she told me she was a stripper, I would have some questions, like: (1) Was it your choice to become a dancer or were you forced into, (e.g., to support a child, pay overdue bills, etc.)? (2) How do you feel about being an exotic dancer? (3) Do you feel safe at the club where you dance? (4) How much alcohol do you drink while you work? The dancers in this site tend to be very mature and smart about their work, but, not all dancers are like that. I would be happy to date a dancer who is a strong independent smart woman who chooses to dance because of the flexible hours and good pay, who is proud of her body and feels comfortable in her skin, who is responsible with her alcohol or drug consumption and who realizes that this line of work has a short life span and she is already thinking of her next career path. On the other hand, I would not date a dancer that hates dancing, but, feels like she is trapped and has no other option, has low self-esteem, has alcohol or drug dependency issues, has no ambition or goals for the future, etc.

By the way, since i forgot it the first time. The real questions you should be asking are these: 1) What do you like to do in your free time? 2) What's your favorite color? 3) What movies do you like? 4) What music do you listen to? 5) What are your thoughts on (Whatever, X i guess).

You'll get further with her. Trust me on that. Be interested in HER rather than her job. If all you ever do is ask about being a Stripper or Camgirl, she'll go find a guy that won't do that.

slowpoke
08-09-2020, 11:46 AM
Just curious if you would wife up a stripper, escort, cam model, body rub girl, porn actress, nude model, burlesque dancer, etc......


Would she marry a "civilian"?

Raziel
08-09-2020, 11:49 AM
Slow, they usually do. I knew one girl that married a CUSTOMER.

slowpoke
08-09-2020, 11:52 AM
They both knew what they were getting.

No mysteries about their history.

Raziel
08-09-2020, 01:14 PM
Yep, they sure did. She's not a Dancer anymore, but they are happy, and that's really all that counts.

Raziel
08-09-2020, 04:22 PM
stripper: No problem. Most of them are very faithful, to my knowledge.

escort: Don't know. I don't think i could marry an active one. As i said before, i really don't like the idea of other dudes fucking my girl. We can be buddies, though. An Ex Escort is a different story.

cam model: No problem. Don't know much about them, as they are a very diverse group. But i'd give it a shot if i liked her.

body rub girl: I'll be honest, i don't even know what this is. I imagine it's something like a Masseuse? I don't know, i can't answer this one. But if i liked her, sure. As long as nobody is sticking his dick in her.

porn actress: Just like an Escort, i REALLY don't like the idea of some other dude sticking his dick in my girl. We can be buddies, though. I have zero problems being friends with a Woman.

nude model: Sure. I have no hangups about the Female Body. I have a naked body, too! We all have one. Nothing is wrong with it. Yes, i would happily wife up a nude model if i loved her.

burlesque dancer: I wasn't aware this was even part of the Adult Industry. But, yeah, absolutely. Frankly, i view burlesque as an ART.

Raziel
08-09-2020, 09:19 PM
Allow me to add one thing: They don't grow Strippers or on a farm out west (This goes for Camgirls, Escorts, I guess whatever a body Rub Girl is, all as well.) They got BORN, they grew up, they decided to enter the Adult Entertainment Industry. They did this because it pays well. It won't last, but that's why they did it. It's probably the same for the Guys who do it as well.

We should cherish them. And, yeah, if you can, if you meet one and fall in love, wife them. Don't give them shit about their job, just love them. You'll be better for it.

This goes for Librarians, as well. Or Schoolteachers, or really any Woman.

All of them should be cherished. They are a blessing. Don't waste it.

Golden_Rule
08-10-2020, 10:11 PM
Slow, they usually do. I knew one girl that married a CUSTOMER.

I know about a dozen dancers who have had either long term cohabitation [essentially married without the paper] and marriages.

The ratio of success to failure in these cases is, surprising enough to those I have been exposed to, about the same as the general public. Four are still together, years later, and eight ended in various degrees ranging from amicable to acrimony.

So my take on it is: when push comes to shove, folks be folks.

Raziel
08-11-2020, 03:55 AM
Yeah, i get it. I know a bit about the industry, too. I won't say how. But this shit is indeed possible. Might not be ideal at first, but a Dancer is a Woman, and when a Woman meets the right guy, sparks fly. And she's stupid if she doesn't follow it up. He could be Prince Charming. Not every Dude is a creeper. Some guys are pretty cool, even customers.

Raziel
08-11-2020, 12:49 PM
I know about a dozen dancers who have had either long term cohabitation [essentially married without the paper] and marriages.

The ratio of success to failure in these cases is, surprising enough to those I have been exposed to, about the same as the general public. Four are still together, years later, and eight ended in various degrees ranging from amicable to acrimony.

So my take on it is: when push comes to shove, folks be folks.

Yeah, it's the same thing. Of COURSE it's like the general public! It's just People.

Raziel
08-11-2020, 02:49 PM
Allow me to add one thing: They don't grow Strippers or on a farm out west (This goes for Camgirls, Escorts, I guess whatever a body Rub Girl is, all as well.) They got BORN, they grew up, they decided to enter the Adult Entertainment Industry. They did this because it pays well. It won't last, but that's why they did it. It's probably the same for the Guys who do it as well.

We should cherish them. And, yeah, if you can, if you meet one and fall in love, wife them. Don't give them shit about their job, just love them. You'll be better for it.

This goes for Librarians, as well. Or Schoolteachers, or really any Woman.

All of them should be cherished. They are a blessing. Don't waste it.

Just so you know, i was ass hammered when i wrote this. Like, WAY DRUNK. So if it doesn't make any sense to you, that's why. Just thought i'd clarify.

neverendingkneebruises
08-13-2020, 10:00 PM
Would I?? Like right now? I feel so pressured. Can we go out to dinner first?

Golden_Rule
08-13-2020, 10:01 PM
Would I?? Like right now? I feel so pressured. Can we go out to dinner first?

If you ask me real nice...


}:D

Raziel
08-14-2020, 12:20 AM
Would I?? Like right now? I feel so pressured. Can we go out to dinner first?

Sure, i know of a Greek Restaurant called Olympia. They have GREAT cheese wedges. I take my mom there all the time. :)

Just cheesing.

Bahuba
08-14-2020, 08:33 AM
I. Miss. Greek. Food.

They do not have it here.

Raziel
08-14-2020, 06:29 PM
Too bad, so sad.

I get the plate Bahuba.

TheBrownFox
08-14-2020, 08:17 PM
I don’t think I would mention it.

Last night I joked around and told my dude I had an OnlyFans. (I don’t have one but have considered it)

The disappointment look was written all over his face. Like a deflated ballon.

Granted I did say this after we’ve gotten pretty close so if this were true it probably should have been divulged sooner but I still can’t help but feel like Most guys can’t handle the information. And WILL judge a woman for it and will probably reconsider marriage despite the honesty.


I've seen so many posts on Twitter (from both men AND women, which is disappointing) talking shit about women who have OnlyFans...or how women on OnlyFans don't respect themselves." *eye roll* I do believe one of those people talking like that was some chick who'd just posted a pic of herself in front of the bathroom mirror doing some duck lips pose...while wearing a revealing top with no bra. Oh? But you mad at other grown-ass women for making money off of sexy photos? Girl, BYE.....

Raziel
08-15-2020, 11:49 AM
I will not Wife anyone unless i love her. Wifing up a Woman that you don't love is a recipe for disaster.

miss.a.p1600
08-15-2020, 02:29 PM
I will not Wife anyone unless i love her. Wifing up a Woman that you don't love is a recipe for disaster.


I donÂ’t have tons of experience with marriage so take this with a grain of salt but I do believe in some instances love is secondary. In some cultures itÂ’s moreso about maintaining n building assets (ex marrying others with same or more wealth), marrying people who would manage a household effectively/raise successful kids/etc.

Plenty of people marry to have a better life and if they love the person or grow to love the person then even better.

Disaster would be marrying someone you love but they are horrible with earning n managing money and certainly marrying someone abusive. Too many people get murked by their spouse unfortunately

I guess this is a different topic but yeah I think the ideal for marriage to people in adult industry would be marrying for the “right” reasons. Whatever is right to your situation

Raziel
08-15-2020, 03:25 PM
I believe in love. Can't help it.

Wife up a woman you don't love is a recipe for a future Divorce. I'd rather just stay single. It's less expensive.

BTW: You really think abusive Husbands love their wives? They don't. They might say they do, but a man that loves his wife doesn't ball up his fist and hit her. A man who loves his wife DEFENDS her and takes care of her, she is precious to him. Abusive men want nothing but to rule them. It's sickening.