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Selina M
01-16-2021, 11:33 PM
I once knew a girl that was a Dancer (this was a long time ago, I was a kid, well not a Kid Kid, but a Teenager) she was a bit older than me (I don't remember how much). She didn't do anything with Customers, but she liked Nerds. That was her thing. I couldn't figure it out, but she was ALL OVER them. Normally you expect a hot girl to fawn all over some Football player, but she just dropped them all (and sometimes they got pissed about it). Honestly some dude that's gonna peak in College, and then I find him BAGGING MY GROCERIES, he has no place next to a guy that will actually be able to take care of her. She was smart. Nerds are actually better able. They have a future. And understand how lucky they are to have her.

Now, I'm not harshing on Football players (a lot of these dudes are actually pretty cool) but a lot of these people were someone you might want to have a dalliance with, but not a long term relationship. Most of them are not going anywhere. For many of them, this is the top of their life. It's all downhill from there.

That girl had it figured out. The best guys come in strange packages...

Reminds me of that bit in Revenge of the Nerds where the cheerleader asks the lead nerd "How are you so good at sex?" and he goes "All jocks think about is sports, all we think about is sex". I know that movie gets trashed for that scene nowadays, but it's pretty true. Every 'cool' guy I've dated has sucked in the sack. The nerds are FAR superior.

My ex was exactly what you're talking about, the cool 'preppy' stereotype back in high school. I liked him because he had some cute dorky qualities that he hid from everyone else, but he was majorly preoccupied with being Mr. Popular (Asshole) Football Player. It was all downhill for him after graduation. He tried to continue being cool by selling pot and hanging out with 'actual' drug dealers, which bit him in the ass and landed him a felony charge.
Now he's 32 & still working a shitty hourly job, renting a room from a friend & driving the same beat up truck. My friends have found him on dating apps, lying about being a doctor or in pilot training :O Definitely glad I did not hitch my wagon to him when I was still young and optimistic!

Raziel
01-17-2021, 01:34 PM
That girl had it figured out. The best guys come in strange packages...

Reminds me of that bit in Revenge of the Nerds where the cheerleader asks the lead nerd "How are you so good at sex?" and he goes "All jocks think about is sports, all we think about is sex". I know that movie gets trashed for that scene nowadays, but it's pretty true. Every 'cool' guy I've dated has sucked in the sack. The nerds are FAR superior.

My ex was exactly what you're talking about, the cool 'preppy' stereotype back in high school. I liked him because he had some cute dorky qualities that he hid from everyone else, but he was majorly preoccupied with being Mr. Popular (Asshole) Football Player. It was all downhill for him after graduation. He tried to continue being cool by selling pot and hanging out with 'actual' drug dealers, which bit him in the ass and landed him a felony charge.
Now he's 32 & still working a shitty hourly job, renting a room from a friend & driving the same beat up truck. My friends have found him on dating apps, lying about being a doctor or in pilot training :O Definitely glad I did not hitch my wagon to him when I was still young and optimistic!

Yeah, you need to actually get a fucking Education. Do the shit young people do, that's fine. But it can't be only a party and chasing girls. You have to actually get your nose on that Grindstone. Make something of yourself. But the problem is (and forgive me for this) pussy is all they care about. And that ruins their lives.

"Would you like fries with that?" Said the McDonalds employee

MrDuckie
01-29-2021, 02:31 PM
I've been to this question before. Based on a current relationship I have... Everybody has work they want or have to do. I'm thinking that a marriage especially must be based on trust and helping the partner be the best they can be, making the partner's happiness a high priority. Given that, maybe every marriage would have better chance of success, including any kinds of 'sex' workers.

best regards to all of you.

Raziel
02-07-2021, 12:33 AM
Really it just depends. I mean, is she marriage material? Is she faithful? I mean, you're not marrying a Stripper or Porn Star or whatever. You're marrying a Woman. Because that's what she is. You have to think about it that way.

Don't marry WHAT she is, marry WHOM she is.

Stanislaw
03-23-2021, 03:39 PM
That girl had it figured out. The best guys come in strange packages...

Reminds me of that bit in Revenge of the Nerds where the cheerleader asks the lead nerd "How are you so good at sex?" and he goes "All jocks think about is sports, all we think about is sex". I know that movie gets trashed for that scene nowadays, but it's pretty true. Every 'cool' guy I've dated has sucked in the sack. The nerds are FAR superior.



I think that's because jocks are used to being there. Nerds are just happy to be invited lol. They may not have the looks to fall back on so they have to make up for it with their "work ethic."

theeastcoast757
03-23-2021, 09:57 PM
Definitely just depends on the actual person if you love someone enough you should be able to look past it. Not sure if I would marry a politician though.

Raziel
03-24-2021, 07:15 AM
I wouldn't touch a politician with a ten foot pole!

DeathAndTaxes
03-24-2021, 12:21 PM
I don't think jocks vs nerds is a fair comparison, I have seen plenty of nerds that only care about hacking machines and not the human body. But to be fair they are not interested in a relationship in the first place.

As for the topic at hand the issue would be hacking relationships, from my observation is two-fold problem

A) societal stigma
B) Insecurity born from jealousy.

If the man is part of conservative social circles the first is probably an insurmountable problem, so I would definitely 100% avoid anybody that belongs to a sex negative culture.

While insecurity is a personality attribute so probing for this is important.

indyindy85
08-02-2021, 12:23 AM
Didn't read the whole thread. No I would not consider marrying somebody in the adult industry.

Cashman1234
09-09-2021, 06:18 AM
I like to think Im secure enough to handle a marriage with a sex industry worker.

In my view, if I fall for someone, their line of work isnt going to change my feelings.

That being said, theory and practice can be different.

Bahuba
09-09-2021, 08:03 AM
That being said, theory and practice can be different.

Isn't that the truth

Cashman1234
09-09-2021, 10:22 AM
I agree. I think thats when it can become difficult for many partners (of sex industry workers).

Trust is key. Its either there and very strong - or its going to be very difficult.

peculiarprofessionalellow
11-17-2021, 05:51 PM
I definitely would be comfortable with that, and yet I don't know how many Adult industry females would be into Marriage, or even a sustainable relationship with a Man who would be supportive and enthusiastic about her success.

Nanny76
11-17-2021, 07:16 PM
I think it depends how you love a person without looking at their past, without judgement at all.

naomi_doll
11-17-2021, 07:25 PM
I definitely would be comfortable with that, and yet I don't know how many Adult industry females would be into Marriage, or even a sustainable relationship with a Man who would be supportive and enthusiastic about her success.

Why would someone in the adult industry be less into marriage or a long term relationship than anyone else? Especially if according to you the partner was supportive?

laurielegs
11-17-2021, 07:34 PM
I definitely would be comfortable with that, and yet I don't know how many Adult industry females would be into Marriage, or even a sustainable relationship with a Man who would be supportive and enthusiastic about her success.

That makes zero sense. wtf.

peculiarprofessionalellow
11-17-2021, 07:55 PM
I would expect an adult worker to experience more bouts of jealousy, and drama from a partner, and be more avoidant to seek long term relationships. Not that I assume they are less likely to want them. I don't know, obviously if anyone read that I was implying otherwise it was a miscommunication.

peculiarprofessionalellow
11-17-2021, 07:57 PM
I would expect an adult worker to experience more bouts of jealousy, and drama from a partner, and be more avoidant to seek long term relationships. Not that I assume they are less likely to want them. I don't know, obviously if anyone read that I was implying otherwise it was a miscommunication.

@naomi_doll

naomi_doll
11-17-2021, 08:28 PM
I would expect an adult worker to experience more bouts of jealousy, and drama from a partner, and be more avoidant to seek long term relationships. Not that I assume they are less likely to want them. I don't know, obviously if anyone read that I was implying otherwise it was a miscommunication.

But if the person was supportive like you said, there's no reason to be avoidant.

Oh, and if you reply with the "reply with quote" button on my post, it replies to me.

peculiarprofessionalellow
11-17-2021, 10:22 PM
But if the person was supportive like you said, there's no reason to be avoidant.

Oh, and if you reply with the "reply with quote" button on my post, it replies to me.

Thanks.

How does finding,or meeting that supportive s/o when not already in a relationship with a supportive and understanding Gentleman look? Like through chance encounter via learning about some like minded passion, let say an Astrology forum for example astro-seek.com do you, as an adult worker take a chance and reach out, or perhaps you are waiting to be approached until the attraction begins? How many Adult industry females are single and hoping for romance?

kamiliam
11-17-2021, 10:35 PM
Thanks.

How does finding,or meeting that supportive s/o when not already in a relationship with a supportive and understanding Gentleman look? Like through chance encounter via learning about some like minded passion, let say an Astrology forum for example astro-seek.com do you, as an adult worker take a chance and reach out, or perhaps you are waiting to be approached until the attraction begins? How many Adult industry females are single and hoping for romance?

like you find any other person? We aren't "touched" by a special dick. Just be more mindful of statements like you made previously...

laurielegs
11-17-2021, 11:09 PM
Thanks.

How does finding,or meeting that supportive s/o when not already in a relationship with a supportive and understanding Gentleman look? Like through chance encounter via learning about some like minded passion, let say an Astrology forum for example astro-seek.com do you, as an adult worker take a chance and reach out, or perhaps you are waiting to be approached until the attraction begins? How many Adult industry females are single and hoping for romance?

Your questions make no sense. It's no different than any other group of people. It's a job and has nothing to do with how we might meet someone.

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Cashman1234
11-18-2021, 09:05 AM
My view is very simple. We dont control who we fall for. We have some control with where we choose to go - to meet people. Its a very simple thing - and it must happen organically - to work. Thats the easy part - falling for someone.

The tricky part happens when you begin to learn more about that person - as we all make judgements in our minds. It can be a challenge when you are falling for someone - to accept them as they are today. To put judgements aside and open both your mind and heart to that person.

A sex worker, a fry cook, a banker, an electrician - hearing those occupations can create judgements about the person who performs those jobs. Those assumptions are important to put aside, so you can get to know the person (and not the persona).

Sam38g
11-19-2021, 04:09 PM
LMAO Men are worried about if we will cheat.. while we are worried about them beating and killing us. We worry about mental, physical, sexual & financial abuse. Which we have seen so many women in this biz reach out on this site to escape those nightmares.

I am not worried about whether or not a man wants to marry me, more like why would I ever want them!!!! Do men have any redeemable qualities? Can any of you hold down a good job? Can any of you weather an economic downturn without getting all depressed and becoming totally useless? Can any of ya'll manage not to hit & murder women? Not go on murdering rampages when a woman leaves you? How about just handle rejection in a normal way without name calling or getting violent? Can any of you manage to keep your underwear from having brown streaks in them? Or do your own laundy? Cook a meal?

So worried about our history, when men's history of mistreating & abusing women for centuries. Treating us like we are chattle and thinking our sexual history or jobs in this industry like a negative makes any of you desirable is laughable.

Ya'll act like you are in control and determine who is marriage material and who isn't. Which is laughable since women(from all backgrounds) with any kind of financial freedom are choosing NOT to marry and are happier for it.

SuperPookie
11-19-2021, 05:53 PM
I definitely would be comfortable with that, and yet I don't know how many Adult industry females would be into Marriage, or even a sustainable relationship with a Man who would be supportive and enthusiastic about her success.

As happily married sw I disagree.

Robcartruck
11-19-2021, 06:15 PM
LMAO Men are worried about if we will cheat.. while we are worried about them beating and killing us. We worry about mental, physical, sexual & financial abuse. Which we have seen so many women in this biz reach out on this site to escape those nightmares.

I am not worried about whether or not a man wants to marry me, more like why would I ever want them!!!! Do men have any redeemable qualities? Can any of you hold down a good job? Can any of you weather an economic downturn without getting all depressed and becoming totally useless? Can any of ya'll manage not to hit & murder women? Not go on murdering rampages when a woman leaves you? How about just handle rejection in a normal way without name calling or getting violent? Can any of you manage to keep your underwear from having brown streaks in them? Or do your own laundy? Cook a meal?

So worried about our history, when men's history of mistreating & abusing women for centuries. Treating us like we are chattle and thinking our sexual history or jobs in this industry like a negative makes any of you desirable is laughable.

Ya'll act like you are in control and determine who is marriage material and who isn't. Which is laughable since women(from all backgrounds) with any kind of financial freedom are choosing NOT to marry and are happier for it.

Wow...I truly am sorry you have seen what you have seen with relationships. I promise you not all men are bad. Some of us are naive, jealous, spoiled, just not sure how to approach things, etc. etc. We are men. I do not think I am a lot of the things you mentioned, other than being a man, but of course I am far from perfect :)

There must be others like me out there that can cook a good meal, wash their own clothes, and have zero underwear with brown streaks...(gotta tell ya, that one is pretty gross). Lots of us do hold down good jobs, even through the economic downturns, and crazy COVID days. Lots of us, really do try to take very good care of a woman. But again, we are far from perfect, but we do try...

kamiliam
11-19-2021, 06:59 PM
Wow...I truly am sorry you have seen what you have seen with relationships. I promise you not all men are bad. Some of us are naive, jealous, spoiled, just not sure how to approach things, etc. etc. We are men. I do not think I am a lot of the things you mentioned, other than being a man, but of course I am far from perfect :)

There must be others like me out there that can cook a good meal, wash their own clothes, and have zero underwear with brown streaks...(gotta tell ya, that one is pretty gross). Lots of us do hold down good jobs, even through the economic downturns, and crazy COVID days. Lots of us, really do try to take very good care of a woman. But again, we are far from perfect, but we do try...

To say that isn't a 'real man', or 'not all men' the issue, minimizes the violence female presenting people face; that only is real when it happens to someone you love. I haven't had all those things directly happen to me, but I have multiple women in my life who have. They had it all minus murder.

You certainty know women like that too, whether you are aware of it or not. And so reducing the feminine experience to merely an individual bad man issue, takes away accountability from all men.

This should also clarify why us in the adult industry need to be extra cautious about who we pick, not if a dude would have us. Redflag for myself would be a man hunting for a sw to marry.

Robcartruck
11-19-2021, 07:48 PM
To say that isn't a 'real man', or 'not all men' the issue, minimizes the violence female presenting people face; that only is real when it happens to someone you love. I haven't had all those things directly happen to me, but I have multiple women in my life who have. They had it all minus murder.

You certainty know women like that too, whether you are aware of it or not. And so reducing the feminine experience to merely an individual bad man issue, takes away accountability from all men.

This should also clarify why us in the adult industry need to be extra cautious about who we pick, not if a dude would have us. Redflag for myself would be a man hunting for a sw to marry.

not trying to minimalize the issues women face, not my point, and did not mean it in that way. I, like everyone, know women whom have been through very bad things. my only point was not all men are bad, and some really do try to be good.

DeathAndTaxes
11-19-2021, 08:22 PM
This should also clarify why us in the adult industry need to be extra cautious about who we pick, not if a dude would have us. Redflag for myself would be a man hunting for a sw to marry.

What if I thought sw were smart ladies that I can have a legitimate conversation with? I mean I have been asked once or twice "why am I here?" well yeah you are not boring people, you are worth my time having a chat once in a while, and I know some of you feel the same way.

But I will not deny that sometimes these blanket statements about our gender are damn harsh. I wish I could legitimately wave a magic wand and end all crime, but at the end of the day it would be fair, even when women are the aggressor, and for some reason this is always so damn controversial. I have never hit a woman but they have hit me, never drugged one but they have me (super traumatic), never groped one without her consent but they have me (very common, but I don't really care).

This is customer conversation so it is our little corner to vent lol.

Sam38g
11-20-2021, 05:44 AM
Your customer corner of whether or not we make good marriage material as if we are less than due to our jobs. It is condescending at best, it helps continues the stigma against sex workers. A stigma that allows men to be more abusive and get away with it.

Sex workers are 60% more likely to be abused, but keep telling us how you are all a bunch of good guys while discussing how we aren't really marriage material because we might cheat.

Men always love to throw in and misdirect the conversation to how women beat men too.. but how many women murder their male partners compared to how many men do. How many men are stalked and murdered by their ex's? or past stripper they used to get dances from?

How many past strippers, escorts or cam girls have hunted you down and stalked you? Yet, it is something we deal with all the time

https://twitter.com/The_HollyEvans/status/1461754760957149191?s=20 Here is a young pregnant gal who was hunted down by a former client from the strip club and murdered. So yes, I am a bit triggered by this conversation.

Tell me how do we tell the difference between the good guys and bad guys, I would really like to know........................

DeathAndTaxes
11-20-2021, 07:18 PM
Your customer corner of whether or not we make good marriage material as if we are less than due to our jobs. It is condescending at best, it helps continues the stigma against sex workers. A stigma that allows men to be more abusive and get away with it.

Sex workers are 60% more likely to be abused, but keep telling us how you are all a bunch of good guys while discussing how we aren't really marriage material because we might cheat.

Men always love to throw in and misdirect the conversation to how women beat men too.. but how many women murder their male partners compared to how many men do. How many men are stalked and murdered by their ex's? or past stripper they used to get dances from?

How many past strippers, escorts or cam girls have hunted you down and stalked you? Yet, it is something we deal with all the time

https://twitter.com/The_HollyEvans/status/1461754760957149191?s=20 Here is a young pregnant gal who was hunted down by a former client from the strip club and murdered. So yes, I am a bit triggered by this conversation.

Tell me how do we tell the difference between the good guys and bad guys, I would really like to know........................

Well a stripper drugged me and stole from me, police laughed in my face, and literally the only justice I will ever get is constantly rejecting her over and over again, because this whale got away and is physically disgusted by her. I still think sw are cool people and she was just an outlier.

As for tips in identifying violent men, just more arrests, get them off the streets and make it easier and easier to document the evidence needed to lock them up.

Bahuba
11-21-2021, 09:25 AM
So just so everyone understands - this is a dancer support site, so if you have thin skin (and even I have, on occasion, whined about an "anti-male" comment) you should probably realize that most of the pinks know very well that there are good men, but this is their place to let off steam about the challenges they face.


Rather than try to convince them that men are good, or you personally are good, try to hear the reality in what the pinks are saying.

Cashman1234
11-21-2021, 10:32 AM
Im not here to change anyones opinion - or brag.

But, I just checked and there are no skid marks in my shorts!

Sam38g
11-22-2021, 05:15 AM
Oh look men on a sex workers site filled with women, telling women how they need a safe place to bash women in this biz and how they are not good relationship material. On here reminding them old tropes and stigmas around their jobs is something they need to reinforce over and over again.

How dare women speak up and hurt men's feelings when men do to them is way worse.

Bahuba
11-24-2021, 05:44 AM
But, I just checked and there are no skid marks in my shorts!

The journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step

OmegaWest
11-24-2021, 11:54 AM
I did notice one thing about this thread.

Why does it matter what work women do, when it comes to falling in love with them and they you?

Same reasoning applies if they are a cop, a mortician, or a Hi rise Window washer. Its a job its not anything else but. Maybe the women dont like your chosen job.

DonaDiabla
11-28-2021, 05:38 PM
Personally, I don't get why men get upset about these things? Most of these things are "blanket statements" are facts. Most pedophiles, sexual offenders, serial killers, bestiality perverts, and rapists are men. Why should that hurt your feelings? Why yell and nag about "not all men"? When both historically and factually it has been mostly men. You think yelling out "Not all men" is going to stop women and children from getting abuse? Or stop pedophiles and rapists from doing what they do? No, many men yell out not all men because they're too weak to admit that a lot men on average are quite dangerous. Dangerous to women, children, animals, and even other men. Sad but true.

Now back to your story. Sure, women can be aggressors like in your case. But female aggressors, murderers, and sex offenders are pretty low compare to their male counterparts. Also women tend to show these tendencies in manners different than men. For example, a lot of women's crimes are often linked to financial gains or taking back power. So, drugging you was most likely about stealing your money without you fighting back. That's why people need to watch drinking and eating stuff from unknown people. But if you encounter a man...he would have did much more damage to you. Group of men would did even more damage. I am not saying this to belittle your experience. I am saying this because it's the truth.




What if I thought sw were smart ladies that I can have a legitimate conversation with? I mean I have been asked once or twice "why am I here?" well yeah you are not boring people, you are worth my time having a chat once in a while, and I know some of you feel the same way.

But I will not deny that sometimes these blanket statements about our gender are damn harsh. I wish I could legitimately wave a magic wand and end all crime, but at the end of the day it would be fair, even when women are the aggressor, and for some reason this is always so damn controversial. I have never hit a woman but they have hit me, never drugged one but they have me (super traumatic), never groped one without her consent but they have me (very common, but I don't really care).

This is customer conversation so it is our little corner to vent lol.

DonaDiabla
11-28-2021, 06:03 PM
It's always amusing to hear "Not all men". Because it's always one of most strangest answers for men to give. That's statement itself is weakness. Because it's about not accepting that there's evil in many men's hearts. First of all, stop being naive to this world. Men on average are much violent and physically imposing compare to us women. Openly, they use their physical might against women and children when men don't get their way. Or for their weird sexual interest and to feel more powerful.
Many of them openly hold women back at every turn from not giving us raises in the workforce to leave us defenseless in poverty with our children. A lot of the world's poverty happens because of a lot of men can't or won't take care of the families they started. They don't make enough money, they don't want women to make good money, or they abandon women with children to starve.These are not personal digs at men. These are facts. So, trying to do good is not good enough. Maybe for some who never seen "true good men" or hold men to accountability. But you have be an true stand up guy before preaching about it.


not trying to minimalize the issues women face, not my point, and did not mean it in that way. I, like everyone, know women whom have been through very bad things. my only point was not all men are bad, and some really do try to be good.

DeathAndTaxes
11-29-2021, 05:44 PM
Now back to your story. Sure, women can be aggressors like in your case. But female aggressors, murderers, and sex offenders are pretty low compare to their male counterparts. Also women tend to show these tendencies in manners different than men. For example, a lot of women's crimes are often linked to financial gains or taking back power. So, drugging you was most likely about stealing your money without you fighting back. That's why people need to watch drinking and eating stuff from unknown people. But if you encounter a man...he would have did much more damage to you. Group of men would did even more damage. I am not saying this to belittle your experience. I am saying this because it's the truth.

Yeah not letting my drink off my sight again, which is sad because I never had to worry about it, all I ask is empathy.

DonaDiabla
11-29-2021, 07:39 PM
Oh I have compassion for your case. But I was giving you an warning for next time. For your own stake, don't be naive in this world.


Yeah not letting my drink off my sight again, which is sad because I never had to worry about it, all I ask is empathy.

whirlerz
11-30-2021, 10:37 AM
Many years ago, I lived in a sketchy area known for its bars, several were open 24/7, literally, closing only a couple hours per day for cleaning..
Imagine that clientele?
I, personally was once chased down the street on my way to school, by an idiot in such a place, TG he gave up!

It was rather common for in bar shootings & especially for people having their drink(s) doped (male/female, didn't matter) so they could be 'rolled ' later..

That was then.. fast forward to today, all the shitshows going on.. It makes sense to keep your awareness at all times.

indyindy85
12-23-2021, 01:21 AM
I did notice one thing about this thread.

Why does it matter what work women do, when it comes to falling in love with them and they you?

Same reasoning applies if they are a cop, a mortician, or a Hi rise Window washer. Its a job its not anything else but. Maybe the women dont like your chosen job.

Would you marry a cop that beats and kills innocent people?

Would you marry a mortician that hustles families in grief so they can get the "good" coffin for more money?

Would you marry a chef that will work tons of hours and never be home on holidays because they're cooking

Military? They leave for months at a time

A job creates factors that people should take into consideration when we're talking about marriage.

Maybe you and your values are ok with those....maybe they're not...everybody is different

Would you marry someone whose job entails a lot of lying and manipulating? Some people care. They want to spend the rest of their life with an honest person. Some people don't, they think you gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills.

Sex worker? Well some people value sex with their wife....maybe they don't want them sharing those kinds of things with other people.

Are we what we do 9-5? Well I think some jobs definitely create a grey area.

PS....I couldn't come up with anything negative for a window washer

FrankieSkyPrivate
02-15-2022, 12:49 AM
Before I would have answered with a firm NO, NEVER. But my thoughts have changed, and now I have a more mature mentality. We all have a past and we all change with the time, what matters is who the person is today