View Full Version : New Skype TOS incoming - "Ban on inappropriate language, pornographic content"
PixiieGirl
04-08-2018, 11:01 AM
totally stuck on what to use for indie at the moment tbh, may be a case of having to just use camsites for me :/
naomi_doll
04-10-2018, 06:35 AM
Looks like discord made a clear statement finally - https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/983434095714799617
seashell
04-10-2018, 08:52 AM
Looks like discord made a clear statement finally - https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/983434095714799617
That sucks. I genuinely am curious if, how, and when, they will actually crack down on us. As in, deleting accounts and servers.
naomi_doll
04-10-2018, 11:27 AM
I'm on a few servers with a lot of nsfw content, and nothing has happened yet with them.
kortneykay
04-10-2018, 05:23 PM
I knew, knew, knew 'cortana' was spying on us. I remember the microsoft/windows updates and I muted it because I thought to myself "This bitch is spying!" and then she popped up on skype too of course with microsoft and no matter HOW many times you delete it, it re-adds itself to your friend's list. Said the same for fb when 9 yrs ago they were asking for phone numbers. I said "Nah, this guy is spying." never did sign up with my #. I think me living near the NSA and DISSA had me too shooketh with speculation and paranoia and it looks like I was right to think so, lol.
Anytime companies that have access to the personal lives of its clients (remember, skype was for communication as well when it first launched) the GOVMENT always wants to control that shit and listen in for our 'safety'. Fuckers.
Magical_Hoohah
04-10-2018, 06:09 PM
Some Wire TOS stuff that I'm not sure about
I don't know the answers for sure, but I have some thoughts...
b. Without limiting the foregoing, you agree that you will not: ... (iii) charge any person, or receive any compensation for, the use of the Apps, the Site and/or the Service, unless you are specifically authorized to do so in a separate written agreement with the Company;
c. Without limiting the foregoing, you agree that you will not (i) charge any person, or receive any compensation, for the use of the Service, or (ii) use the Service in any manner not permitted by the licenses granted herein;
I think this is related to charging someone just to use Wire, such as some unauthorized person charging people to download the app. We don't charge people to use the platform, we charge for our time and expertise. We're more like a lawyer or therapist that charges an hourly rate for a Skype meeting - they aren't charging you for using Skype, they're charging for their services.
Submitted Content
10.1. Content of Communications. The Company is not the source of, does not verify or endorse and takes no responsibility for the content of communications made using the Service. By using the Service, you agree that any content that you submit may be transmitted to the recipient of your communication. The content of communications is entirely the responsibility of the person from whom such content originated. ... (iv) an advertisement or solicitation of business;...
I don't think we really use our platforms to advertise or solicit in the way that they mean. We do our advertising on LCMS, CMD, Twitter, etc., and then we use Skype/Wire to conduct business communications with customers that approach us.
Likewise, soliciting is usually just doing cold-calls, like knocking on every door or calling every phone number trying to sell stuff. Since our guys voluntarily come to us, our Skype/Wire accounts are much more like having a store where interested people (who saw our advertisements elsewhere) can come in and shop.
Teddy_Bear
04-11-2018, 06:38 PM
I'll stick with Skype until they ban me. It's not like Skype can take all the money I've earned from using their platform away, there's nothing to lose, when Skype shut me down I'll move onto a different platform but until then why bother? Plus custies are more likely to know about/have moved over themselves to the 'cool new thing' by then so the transition will be easy.
kortneykay
04-13-2018, 04:26 PM
^^^I'd still reach out to all clients with the backup option and username while you can w an email/non-skype option because I have a strong feeling that some of us just won't be able to log into our accounts one of these days.
magicgembliss
04-19-2018, 09:59 AM
https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2018/03/28/microsoft_services_agreement_bars_offensive_langua ge/
Microsoft..*sigh* Does not surprise me. So how likely do you think this is to affect us over on NiteFlirt?
kortneykay
04-19-2018, 10:11 AM
They're FUCKING rediculous. But it's cool, yahoo messenger and other platforms are still available. It shouldn't affect anyone by much. Just move your shit on over. Fuck 'em.
Magical_Hoohah
04-19-2018, 10:19 AM
These threads are dedicated to the topic, and there's probably info scattered across all the indy cam site threads (e.g. the CMD thread) as well.
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?220854-New-Skype-TOS-incoming-quot-Ban-on-inappropriate-language-pornographic-content-quot
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?221045-Discord-just-responded-to-me-on-Twitter-and-confirmed-we-can-use-it-for-our-needs!!
magicgembliss
04-19-2018, 10:24 AM
They're FUCKING rediculous. But it's cool, yahoo messenger and other platforms are still available. It shouldn't affect anyone by much. Just move your shit on over. Fuck 'em.
Thanks! I just had for the first time, someone request a Google hangout session for a NF show. So far so good! And it's Google, so everyone will pretty much already have an account automatically.
I agree over how bizarre that is... I mean a huge company like that encompassing so many different programs utilized in businesses (all types, not just fancy-pants corporate ultra-polite office jobs) should NEVER be that straight-up Fascist over censoring content. How much business is Microsoft going to lose because of this?
magicgembliss
04-19-2018, 11:12 AM
I love how "anti sex trafficking" is devolving into "no pornography or nudity EVER."
So, SO much this. It must be the (reactionary?) effect of electing a president who consistently dates porn stars.
Hopefully a better alternative will come along.
There's a great business idea for major profits sitting right here. Anyone looking to head a startup? I'd even pay a few dollars monthly for a pro-free speech, pro-sex work platform for video chat for a "business account" which is free and easy for clients to use.
LaceyCummings
05-02-2018, 12:14 PM
I'm so confused.
From what I was reading (and now frustratingly can't find again) skype says that the TOS does not apply to skype for business accounts.
If I understand correctly, then shouldn't we be able to open a skype for business account and use that to provide nude cam shows?
I'm afraid to ask skype directly.
LaceyCummings
05-02-2018, 12:21 PM
https://www.skype.com/en/legal/
Consumer Terms
These terms apply to Skype’s consumer software applications and products. They do not apply to the Skype for Business product and online service offered by Microsoft Corporation.
Terms of Use (Microsoft Service Agreement)
RoseD
05-03-2018, 10:19 PM
Full article here:
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"Don’t publicly display or use the Services to share inappropriate content or material (involving, for example, nudity, bestiality, pornography, offensive language, graphic violence, or criminal activity)."
...
I took that to mean that you can't show nudity, porn, etc. in areas where "anyone" can see it. So not on your profile or in the chat, but perhaps it would fly on video. Of course, if they are mining indy Skype usernames then that point is moot. I've created a Discord account and backed up my Skype contacts in case I run into trouble, for all the good that may do me.
SweetLilyRaven
05-09-2018, 12:42 AM
Skype will def feel the pinch when many of us drop their asses. Also, no one ever considers some people use skype for long distance calls/fun time with their lovers. When my ex was in basic and traveling during the military that's what we used to 'communicate', lol.
This is what bothers me the most. Skype is the only way I can keep in contact with my boyfriend of 6 years who lives over in England. I can't even count how many times we've been naked on video calls...and now that Skype is doing this BS, neither of us feel safe in getting intimate during video chats. :|
magicgembliss
05-09-2018, 09:24 AM
.. Because i dont want my skype account banned i and everyone else has to train these NF guys to stop using skype and use another video share platform and guys dont like change they like what theyre used to and typically dont like to budge from their norm . I'm making the switch to discord as my perferred video share platform RN - i already have a server that i made when video rolled out now i forsee it getting ultilized to its fullest
Kik and Snapchat are options too they both have video share options that ive used i cant say theyre on par with skype because i wasnt paying attention but it wasnt noticailly bad either so take that for what you will.
Customers will go where the camgirls are...no one likes change but if it's necessary, just as easy and becomes the standard platform for camming - they'll change over in a jiffy.
Grateful for Snapcat and Discord!
magicgembliss
05-09-2018, 11:20 AM
Here's a youtube vid I found about the changes on Skype. It's about 2 hours long, so a LOT of info and analysis.
https://youtu.be/331b0UHZL2M
Watching now, is a really good vid.
bigbootyjudy1
05-09-2018, 11:28 AM
Lets keep our panties on and dont panic ladies, LOL.Keep hustling and promoting skype and backup your skype contacts.Also create a back up sskype name thats similar to the one you have now.
Also if a guy acts fishy ,ask to much question or just plain time waster just block his ass.To protect yourself.Im still rocking with skype till the end of time lol.
magicgembliss
05-09-2018, 12:22 PM
Lets keep our panties on and dont panic ladies, LOL. Keep hustling and promoting skype and backup your skype contacts.Also create a back skype name thats similar to the one you have now.
Branding, always a great idea. Had a Skype yesterday with a first-timer who came and found me there randomly after my Streamate crashed LOL
Also if a guy acts fishy ,asking to much question or just plain time waster just block his ass.To protect yourself.Im still rocking with skype till the end of time lol.
This is me every day. Learned to cut those fake subs down quick as they NEVER buy, at least not from me! Cleaning out my Skype list today too after the negative feedback I got on NF.
anonymous camgirl
05-09-2018, 02:00 PM
Very true!.. Yahoo used to be the popular messenger and then it was the eyeball chat thing? I forgot what it was called.. and then it became Skype.. things have forever changed..
Customers will go where the camgirls are...no one likes change but if it's necessary, just as easy and becomes the standard platform for camming - they'll change over in a jiffy.
Grateful for Snapcat and Discord!
LaceyCummings
05-09-2018, 03:50 PM
Has anyone actually gotten in trouble with skype yet?
JoyKitten
05-09-2018, 11:55 PM
This is what bothers me the most. Skype is the only way I can keep in contact with my boyfriend of 6 years who lives over in England. I can't even count how many times we've been naked on video calls...and now that Skype is doing this BS, neither of us feel safe in getting intimate during video chats. :|
IMO your situation, and others like you (Example: all the guys in the military who stay in touch with those at home, and yes, I mean rubbing one out with their sweetie during Skype sessions) things are going to go on as usual.
My gal pal said that while she was dating a guy who was a contracted employee over in Afghanistan, they actually provided guys private 'Skype cubical/hut' presumably for this reason. Or, at least that's what he was doing in there when he'd call her. LOL
The longer I've had to research and contemplate this whole thing, the less I feel MS/Skype is going to do anything about general monitoring of our feeds, shutting down sex on their service. Tho, that said, shutting down SkyPrivate or other sex apps that specifically run on their site, that's another story. SP could be seen as possibly facilitating forced sex work via studios. But until they shut SkyPrivate & other apps down, I'll keep using them until they cancel my account.
Serena113
05-25-2018, 03:25 AM
Has anyone actually gotten in trouble with skype yet?
I just tried to log into an account that I had linked to a MFC account I never used. That skype account had been closed. When I tried to log back into my vanilla account, I was locked out. Still haven't gotten back in and I'm panicking a bit.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-25-2018, 03:44 AM
I just tried to log into an account that I had linked to a MFC account I never used. That skype account had been closed. When I tried to log back into my vanilla account, I was locked out. Still haven't gotten back in and I'm panicking a bit.
Are you in Europe by any chance and how long has it been since you last logged into Skype? I ask because today is May 25th, the day that the latest update for the European Data Protection law goes into effect and some Europeans aren't able to access some sites.
Serena113
05-25-2018, 03:58 AM
Are you in Europe by any chance and how long has it been since you last logged into Skype? I ask because today is May 25th, the day that the latest update for the European Data Protection law goes into effect and some Europeans aren't able to access some sites.
I am in the US. I use my vanilla account on a near daily basis as I have friends and language-learning partners overseas. I last logged into the account for indy camming a month or two ago just for shiz and giggles, and tonight I decided to see if it had been at all affected by the SESTA/FOSTA bs even though I had no nude pix on it and hadn't actually used it for camming.
ETA: Last time I logged in to the indy account, some guys had found my (unused!) MFC account and apparently searched skype for me, and I had a bunch of obscene messages asking for skype shows. I hadn't been using the account and never responded. Maybe that had something to do with it?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-25-2018, 04:09 AM
I am in the US. I use my vanilla account on a near daily basis as I have friends and language-learning partners overseas. I last logged into the account for indy camming a month or two ago just for shiz and giggles, and tonight I decided to see if it had been at all affected by the SESTA/FOSTA bs even though I had no nude pix on it and hadn't actually used it for camming.
ETA: Last time I logged in to the indy account, some guys had found my (unused!) MFC account and apparently searched skype for me, and I had a bunch of obscene messages asking for skype shows. I hadn't been using the account and never responded. Maybe that had something to do with it?
That really sucks! Its possible that the "obscene" language used by those guys is what did it. But did you even get an email letting you know that your accounts were being shut down? I don't use my skype as often as I once did, but I made sure to remove all mention of camshows and pay2pay from my bio and updates. Just for clarification, did you have any mention of being a camgirl on your skype? I ask so that other cammers will know how to stay under the radar if possible. Try creating a new skype account from a different device and then login if you want to keep up with your mainstream friends.
Serena113
05-25-2018, 04:26 AM
That really sucks! Its possible that the "obscene" language used by those guys is what did it. But did you even get an email letting you know that your accounts were being shut down? I don't use my skype as often as I once did, but I made sure to remove all mention of camshows and pay2pay from my bio and updates. Just for clarification, did you have any mention of being a camgirl on your skype? I ask so that other cammers will know how to stay under the radar if possible. Try creating a new skype account from a different device and then login if you want to keep up with your mainstream friends.
I don't recall whether there was any mention of camming, but I do not believe so. I was fully dressed but showing a little cleavage in my profile pic. But the name I had listed was the same one I used on my MFC profile. I agree the explicit requests/demands in the messages I got probably played a role, but I never even responded to any. I did not get an email letting me know; just an error message stating that one account (indy) did not exist when I tried to log in. When I tried to log back into the vanilla account on the same device moments later, I received an error message stating my account had been closed (unsure how they'd word this message in English as I use German on my vanilla account) for possible TOS violations. I had successfully switched accounts like this multiple times without any issue.
It gave me instructions to verify my account via text message, but did not accept my phone number. Will ask a friend to use their number once people are awake here.
Serena113
05-25-2018, 03:00 PM
Update: I managed to recover the vanilla account using someone else's phone number. Not even gonna try to revive the other account; too much risk to my vanilla account, plus all evidence of the indy account's existence seems to have disappeared completely.
Esixxx
05-26-2018, 12:36 PM
So the last two Skype shows I did this week were strange, not the shows themselves but what happened during the shows. I think it was Skype that was taking a pictures of the shows- both cams mine and theirs. Then later Scrolling back through the messages it showed that the picture had been removed.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-26-2018, 02:41 PM
So the last two Skype shows I did this week were strange, not the shows themselves but what happened during the shows. I think it was Skype that was taking a pictures of the shows- both cams mine and theirs. Then later Scrolling back through the messages it showed that the picture had been removed.
Is this the first time you've cammed with this person or was both shows with the same person? This has happened to me before but it was because the guy was using a screen recorder script for skype. I think he did a screenshot and then removed it. When you remove stuff on skype it shows that something use to be there and has been removed.
Esixxx
05-26-2018, 03:34 PM
Oh I didn't know that.
Both guys were new cuties to me. I've never had that happen before.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-26-2018, 03:43 PM
Oh I didn't know that.
Both guys were new cuties to me. I've never had that happen before.
I just thought about something else, it could have been a pic that he shared then decided to delete it. It may not have been a skype recorder. I don't wanna scare you.
Procrasturbator
05-26-2018, 05:22 PM
So the last two Skype shows I did this week were strange, not the shows themselves but what happened during the shows. I think it was Skype that was taking a pictures of the shows- both cams mine and theirs. Then later Scrolling back through the messages it showed that the picture had been removed.
This happened to me and I'm as sure as I can be that they weren't doing it on purpose. The first was a very good regular who I just don't believe would do that, it's 100% contrary to his personality and his motivations to record me. Another was I think a new guy but it happened on the same day, when it had never happened before. Both were screenshots of what they were seeing (themselves included), sent in a message. I don't believe it's happened to me since then. It's too much of a coincidence that that would happen twice in such a short time span, I think it's an issue with Skype itself, not the guys.
Esixxx
05-26-2018, 06:10 PM
This happened to me and I'm as sure as I can be that they weren't doing it on purpose. The first was a very good regular who I just don't believe would do that, it's 100% contrary to his personality and his motivations to record me. Another was I think a new guy but it happened on the same day, when it had never happened before. Both were screenshots of what they were seeing (themselves included), sent in a message. I don't believe it's happened to me since then. It's too much of a coincidence that that would happen twice in such a short time span, I think it's an issue with Skype itself, not the guys.
That's exactly what the image I got. I found it a little too coincidental. I figured it was Microsoft letting me know that they are watching me lol.
Snowy0Star
05-26-2018, 06:40 PM
That's exactly what the image I got. I found it a little too coincidental. I figured it was Microsoft letting me know that they are watching me lol.
its really easy to accidentally hit the button that does it as its not very obvi what it does just looking at it. ive done it before trying to make side of the screen bigger or to get to the text log . its a farily new feature that if they dont know its there guys are gonna hit it thinking its something else . they probably both did it on accident trying to do something else
Ladybuggie
02-05-2020, 04:23 PM
Sooo... to top up this magnifincent week on cam, my Skype account has been blocked. It happened when I changed from having no profile pic (I got suspended before for having suggestive - not pornographic- pics ), to one in which I'm fully clothed. I've contacted support but I don't really have much hope. Has anyone had luck with unblocking their accounts or should I be making a new one? Thanks!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-05-2020, 04:31 PM
Sooo... to top up this magnifincent week on cam, my Skype account has been blocked. It happened when I changed from having no profile pic (I got suspended before for having suggestive - not pornographic- pics ), to one in which I'm fully clothed. I've contacted support but I don't really have much hope. Has anyone had luck with unblocking their accounts or should I be making a new one? Thanks!
What was the reason they gave you for the ban? To my knowledge appealing something like this doesn't work. When you create a new one try doing it from a different device.
SaraLaughs
02-05-2020, 04:47 PM
I've been thinking about what I should do in case my account gets banned, luckily I've been able to evade detection for the time being but it's probably just a matter of time.
Is there any program that will automatically record the Skype ID's of my contact list and hold it in a file or do I have to do it manually?
Ladybuggie
02-06-2020, 04:36 AM
What was the reason they gave you for the ban? To my knowledge appealing something like this doesn't work. When you create a new one try doing it from a different device.
From a different device you mean from another computer or from my phone? Would that make a difference? Thanks for your advice, btw. Yeah I thought it wouldn't work to complain. Sigh. I'm gonna have to go through all my CMD and Skyprivate emails and add clients manually to my new Skype. Fun!
Ladybuggie
02-06-2020, 04:38 AM
I think they said something about their TOS but it wasn't a definite reason. It was probably my picture. No picture from now on!
Nikki_Fox
02-06-2020, 09:01 PM
can someone share with me how to back up my skype contacts? windows 10 or iphone - all i am finding are ways to make a csv file and it is full of " skype suggestions " like people I actually know outside of adult who are NOT in my adult skype contacts list - and not one of my actual contacts is showing on the csv list or it wants me to sync my contacts -
please and thank you!!! :)
Ladybuggie
02-10-2020, 11:55 AM
My new Skype account got temporarily locked within days of opening it. After unlocking it I see that they've deleted my profile picture, which was a landscape. I have NO IDEA why, but it seems to be the deciding factor for them. From now on I'll have no picture whatsoever. This is fucking bullshit, I almost have a heart attack.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
02-16-2020, 12:19 PM
can someone share with me how to back up my skype contacts? windows 10 or iphone - all i am finding are ways to make a csv file and it is full of " skype suggestions " like people I actually know outside of adult who are NOT in my adult skype contacts list - and not one of my actual contacts is showing on the csv list or it wants me to sync my contacts -
please and thank you!!! :)
I didn't get this experience and I'm not sure why you did? I used this link (https://secure.skype.com/portal/overview) to find the option to download the .csv file and then opened it with Excel. All of my skype contacts were right there. Syncing your contacts will add them to your phone contacts, I believe.
Ladybuggie
02-17-2020, 12:21 PM
I didn't get this experience and I'm not sure why you did? I used this link (https://secure.skype.com/portal/overview) to find the option to download the .csv file and then opened it with Excel. All of my skype contacts were right there. Syncing your contacts will add them to your phone contacts, I believe.
Thanks for the tip! I managed to download my contacts and it all works perfectly =)
princesslucy
02-29-2020, 11:56 AM
So I've had to create a new skype account 4 times in the past month. I do Skype shows with customers. Does anyone else have this problem? I'm getting so frustrated because I have to keep telling my customers on my cam site
Ladybuggie
03-02-2020, 02:43 PM
Just a heads up: I messaged Skype support right after my account got blocked just to see if I got lucky and they reactivated it for me a few days ago! It took a couple weeks but I did get it back! They did tell me that my pic is what got me banned so my advice is: do not use a profile pic at all. I won't from now on. Also, BACK UP your contacts. Good luck everyone! I'm beyond happy x
JGB2009
03-05-2020, 03:59 PM
How do you back up ur contacts?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
03-06-2020, 09:30 AM
I didn't get this experience and I'm not sure why you did? I used this link (https://secure.skype.com/portal/overview) to find the option to download the .csv file and then opened it with Excel. All of my skype contacts were right there. Syncing your contacts will add them to your phone contacts, I believe.
How do you back up ur contacts?
That link will take you to a page where you can download your contacts. But do it from a desktop and not your phone.