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miss.a.p1600
03-04-2020, 12:08 PM
^ You had the candid convo with him ?

Somewhat.

Somehow we came up on the conversation about husbands/wives and then it transitioned into shared/individual accounts

He mentioned something about spouses buying a house together and each party having 'their half' of the downpayment. Then he said he let his ex (a woman he married then divorced) move into his house. He never asked her to contribute to the mortgage but he also never put her name on the deed. So in his mind, if she left, she would not own the house HE had been paying mortgage for years. IDK still didn't make sense cause when they divorced I would assume she would still own her share of equity in the house during the time they were married.

He said she made more money than him - and im not sure if he felt emasculated or if thats what he preferred.

And just hearing him talk about this stuff just seems like he is the 50/50 type dude who would *need* his wife to work.

carmen_b
03-04-2020, 01:37 PM
^ No, typically if it's one persons name on the property they own the equity ( or any loss ) .
BUT that can vary state to state.

Well he did let her move in for free haha. Maybe he would for you.
With M ( before he turned nuts ) it seemed like moving me in was very generous.
Too bad he was nuts and I had to bail.

carmen_b
03-04-2020, 01:44 PM
Yeah I have to admit that I did. It was a very simple affordable dinner.
It was just this drastic departure from my outings with crazy M and with my Hawaii friend . ;/
Like .... I *thought* I could date someone with a more normal income . I still *think* I can but he should have pounced on it as well as had drinks at his place knowing I was likely coming over. The whole thing left me feeling a little off. I paid $20 for that luxe gym pass to soak / sauna / scrub my way to looking amazing prepping for him .

I wonder if he might be a little depressed due to the clutter around .
I try not to judge given that I CAN'T EVEN HOST at all lol.



I would have felt off too!

I remember dating a guy who turned out to be a narcissist. One of the dates he tried to pretend like he 'forgot' his wallet.....Girl I damn near wanted to punch him in his jugular.

lurkingtitties
03-04-2020, 07:20 PM
^^Some people just don’t drink like that yo...I keep weed at my house always but rarely have any booze. Honestly if a date came over and got salty that I didn’t have drinks in the house I’d think *that* was weird!

Just a different perspective for ya to think about...I think we can all agree that awkwardness over a $25 dinner tab is far more serious! Haha

carmen_b
03-04-2020, 07:26 PM
^ Yeah, I've chilled on the whole thing.
He texted and referenced how his arm fell asleep and he was hurting now. I felt bad.
I came on here and complained and he gave me exactly what I wanted and asked him for so I shouldn't complain.

I was in a bad mood too though which I think affected my vibe. I wanted to get the keys to a house I intended to rent for three months THAT day and was also being picky about not wanting to wait. :)

carmen_b
03-04-2020, 07:40 PM
I did like his touch. I think the more subtle approach kind of gets lost on me.
I am reminding myself that he is probably trying to be respectful.
He sent a text today referencing the " next time " we get together and I found that charming.

carmen_b
03-04-2020, 10:49 PM
Guess who texted me right as I was leaving last night at 11:30 ? Mr. NY !!
;/
I am really trying not to see him while I see where things go with D . I had a weak moment and was like " I'm in this area, can I come to you ? " then felt ashamed of myself. The next day I was glad he fell asleep. I would *like* to think that I wouldn't have just gone over and pounced on him directly after leaving D's place but the jury is out since I did invite myself there.

*** No quoting please as I'm chalking it up to a just being super horny + bad mood combo . ***

carmen_b
03-05-2020, 02:59 PM
Today I have been worried all day that I won't hit the dick lottery again.
Mr. NY and M were well endowed. For 5'8'' and 5'9'' I couldn't believe my luck.
I just don't have much experience with normally sized men .
I have been stressing today that I won't hit the " lotto " again as D is in that 5'8'' / 5'9'' range.

I think maybe D was pouty I didn't stay the night a couple days ago but he didn't *invite* me to stay.
That is why I left at 11:30. My body pretty much shuts down by 11:45.

I texted D this :
" I really like your touch by the way. I was turned on but trying to be mellow and subtle " .

^ I want another date + invite over again. We will see.........

carmen_b
03-06-2020, 02:20 PM
Lurking, thanks for pointing that out. I will make sure date #3 is drink free so he doesn't suspect I have an issue. :)
I don't but I get nervous on dates and find that even 1 drink the first few dates does help.

Dating is so much work. I was at the salon three hours today and de-fuzzing in the tub 15 minutes. That is without my pussy even . Lol. I'll have to address that later. Winter + a break from dancing has done a number on me. Lol. I could only spare shorting my work day by three hours. I really don't want to be doing body maintenence OR working after 6 p.m. today.

I am making myself not text D in order to see if he plans.

carmen_b
03-06-2020, 05:39 PM
I think I’m bored of D already.
^ Oh, UPDATE : Never mind. We cracked into this deep conversation today via text.
We revealed our baggage . It was refreshing. He initiated that convo .
I was so into the convo that I missed a movie ( I love theatres and movies out ).
Surprising.
I revealed my pain stuff from my 7 year partner not fighting for the relationship in 2018 + the abuse from M.
He revealed he was seeing someone for 6 months, broke it off in early Dec., and then she said she was pregnant in late Dec.
She ended the pregnancy in early Feb. and he feels sadness about it ( he was feeling depressed ) . I personally wonder if she ever was even pregnant. How often do you hear THAT you know ? Like all of sudden women are " pregnant " after the guys leaves ? Oldest trick in the book.

carmen_b
03-08-2020, 09:25 AM
I'm bored all around with D. I do sympathize with the above stuff though. ^

My plan was to just give him " a few days " but meh.

carmen_b
03-08-2020, 12:34 PM
I am dating myself since no one can pull their shit together.
Japanese food + a movie at the Indy theatre last night.
Nice evening.

carmen_b
03-08-2020, 07:42 PM
I should pause online dating again. I spied on D's profile and he changed it ( sometime in the 7-8 days) to something about " I want the cream of the crop . I want crazy chemistry that causes goosebumps " ...... something like that . It made me want to send him something nasty like " Um ..... you barely even TRIED with me ! ".

He is saying he has a lot to offer but the person I met seemed pouty and had a small cluttered apartment in need of a good scrub. He is a nice person. Could be a friend so who cares. Gah.

He is touch with me but I grew madder at him progressively over the weekend due to him not trying to seduce me.

carmen_b
03-09-2020, 12:30 PM
I text Mr. NY that I booked a hotel.
Finally he’s like “ oh did you really book it ? I can host but out doing errands”.
He gave no time to meet or address.
Go away Mr NY.

UPDATE : 8 p.m. I went back to the gym + jacuzzi with the jets lol . He texts me to see " where I am " .
I opted not to get together.

miss.a.p1600
03-09-2020, 08:30 PM
I know I might sound like a broken record but

I deleted the billiards guy’s number. (I would block him but I feel like if I block him
He will know and assume I will have been “in my feelings” or whatever that stupid phrase is)

I just realized I’ve been back talking to him since November ish

He has only called me twice. All the other times I’ve called him. And the last few times I’ve called him he doesn’t answer or call me back.

He has only made a real effort to see me once

I was going to try to end my celibacy with him but his dumb ass is clueless and slow so I’m for real over it.

I don’t want to make anymore effort and if I do it will be on someone new.

miss.a.p1600
03-10-2020, 09:25 AM
I feel like I need to delete and block both their numbers

Guess I’m going to follow my intuition for once in my life

carmen_b
03-10-2020, 09:29 AM
Omg ! Yes, please be done with him !

All he has done is text you since Nov. ? Barf ! You'll never reclaim that time wasted so just make sure not to give him any more.

I think this is a good decision.

carmen_b
03-10-2020, 09:38 AM
Yesterday at the gym I realized I am really not pleased with anyone .
I think I will be treating myself to a week or two of intentionally not dating ( including not speaking to anyone haha ). I'll restart with a " fresh " canvas in a couple weeks.

My reasoning for this :

Mr. NY didn't even make meeting up yesterday smooth and easy . He seems to only be offering sex so when I positioned my schedule to accept that offer he didn't help much. I shouldn't say that. He does sometimes offer outdoor outings too but we never seem to catch each other.

D seems to be in his " I'm a tortured soul phase " and he wants to " date around a bit before committing " . He told me this a couple days ago via text. I do like how we are completely open with each other though. We laid it ALL out on the table which I do think is really cool. I don't think there is anything wrong with that but he obviously isn't drawn enough to me to really take much action even in the " you are one of a couple or few women I date " category. I haven't seen him since last Tues. for our Thai Food / Cuddle thing.

B ..... omg. The devil himself is now in my state updating me with photos . I plan to create some sort of story about " seeing someone " because I don't want to see him. I am 99% sure that seeing him will result in getting hurt badly in early May like I was last year.

miss.a.p1600
03-10-2020, 04:18 PM
Omg ! Yes, please be done with him !

All he has done is text you since Nov. ? Barf ! You'll never reclaim that time wasted so just make sure not to give him any more.

I think this is a good decision.

Thanks!

you’re right. I think because we are “friends” and have known each other a long time I was willing to cut him some slack. And granted, he did state a couple times “let me know if you want to hang out this week” and offer to meet up for a happy hour (though it was last min) - i didnt offer a reschedule so idk if it’s my fault too but when I try to call to iron out reschedule details, he hasn’t been answering or calling me back.

The older I get the less willing I am to waste my time.

I’m just going to be out living my best life n posting Instagram thirst traps and just do me and not worry about it.

I honestly think me telling him I was celibate (he asked but maybe I should have lied) could have been a turn off for him. We dated for several months about a decade ago and I never gave him head or pussy despite him spending on dates n gifts etc. so he may feel like I’m impossible or something idk.

miss.a.p1600
03-10-2020, 04:30 PM
Yeah that NY guy seems to be too full of himself rn. If I were you I’d create a story (about seeing someone) for him too and then use him as the clandestine secret side dick dude. Let it be known to him he has to be a secret and your time (AND his window of opportunity) is very limited lol

carmen_b
03-10-2020, 07:48 PM
^ That is so funny !! I was thinking of that too !

Like .... if I want to see an y/ or all of them .... I'll just tell them about my " open " relationship and give my limited time windows. Lol !!

miss.a.p1600
03-10-2020, 09:39 PM
Ugh! And he called me tonight

Carmen you were right I think his plan is to move slow enough (probably cause he don’t want to spend money on dates) to spread out 4-6 dates over 4-6 months vs 4-6 weeks and eventually fuck by end of May or June LOL!!!

Maybe I should call up the thirsty clingy dude. Does oral sex count as something that would end celibacy?

This makes me want to post in the i hate men thread

carmen_b
03-10-2020, 09:51 PM
I should count how many times B has tried to pin my location down since mid Feb.!!

Lol. Two more today trying to see where I’ll be .
Granted ... he actually hasn’t SAID he is in state.

I sent a photo of a snow covered path.

carmen_b
03-10-2020, 09:54 PM
8 -10 times since Feb 17!! Lol ^^^

seashell
03-13-2020, 02:04 AM
Englishman bought me flights to England & Albania. I felt so turned on when he was reading me his credit card info over the phone... ;D

I know it's not the ideal time for international travel... but since I'm moving to Serbia, and won't be able to see him for about 2 months, there's really no way around it.

Also, I did hang out with the Serbian guy, and we did end up sleeping together. I know I can't be doing this. I need to just cut off that friendship/whatever it is. I feel really shitty about it, I need actual friends with actual boundaries.

miss.a.p1600
03-13-2020, 06:44 AM
^Yassss!!!

And don’t feel bad.....men be doing this to us ALL the time without one iota of guilt.

Just make sure no one EVER finds out about the other n you good.

carmen_b
03-13-2020, 11:56 AM
Seashell : might be time for boundary talk with the Englishman ?
I assume no talk yet of exclusive?
So after that talk happens just behave and consider your adventure a quirk / opportunity .

miss.a.p1600
03-14-2020, 08:49 AM
I guess it’s over with the clingy guy.

Well it never really started tbh

I wouldn’t let him take me on a date cause he kept recommending these cheap places so then he gets frustrated and starts trying to just meet up/offer to give oral sex. Then I told him I was celibate (which is the truth).

This posed a challenge for me cause this dude was not marriage material and I started to consider some type of just nsa oral sex ..... but I didn’t want to end my celibacy for a guy who wasn’t at least 90% of what I wanted.

Anyhow I guess he’s got someone else to cling to now

miss.a.p1600
03-14-2020, 08:51 AM
Now my harem is down to 1 - the slow as a turtle (possibly 50/50 type dude)billiards guy

I need to add some more men to my harem

miss.a.p1600
03-14-2020, 08:53 AM
I guess it’s over with the clingy guy.

Well it never really started tbh

I wouldn’t let him take me on a date cause he kept recommending these cheap places so then he gets frustrated and starts trying to just meet up/offer to give oral sex. Then I told him I was celibate (which is the truth).

This posed a challenge for me cause this dude was not marriage material and I started to consider some type of just nsa oral sex ..... but I didn’t want to end my celibacy for a guy who wasn’t at least 90% of what I wanted.

Anyhow I guess he’s got someone else to cling to now

Also I know this sounds shallow but I want a man with a sexy voice

And he had the voice of a teenaged southern baptist ame church member named Clarence.

Not sexy at all

carmen_b
03-16-2020, 11:28 AM
Enjoying this 5 days in the desert dude free ...............

carmen_b
03-16-2020, 11:29 AM
^ Seems like D and Mr. NY just can't stop texting . Lol.
I guess the only thing that works on dudes is reverse psychology .
Very interesting. Mr. NY has invited himself to the mountains with me .
D says he is open to hang out. Lol .
This is MY time .

They can both wait until it is convenient for me and when / if I want company.

carmen_b
03-18-2020, 10:31 PM
Somehow I ended up texting a lot with both in the last 2-3 days and opening up more to each .
I kind of like them both ?

I came back to town and decided to give D a shot. ;)
My state is on total lock down so I brought some fresh pineapple and coconut juice to his place to relax and watch a movie. He had a little weed for us to smoke and it was nice BUT just light touching on couch was all. I do like how he moves his hands and really explores skin to skin contact. Especially on the weed. Oh, and I made sure not to drink this time. I have to admit I was disappointed that there wasn't more physical contact . The innocent touching / hand holding was nice.

After D didn't make a REAL MOVE last night I was 90% sure he was disinterested so I was like " ok, he is done " this morning. Then he sends some texts over an hour later that said something like I looked great and he wanted to run his hands all over my body and under my dress . He was worried about getting me sick ( he didn't feel the best I guess ).

Then this text :
" I didn't want to rush it and start something when I wasn't fully in the mood. I'm a giver / pleaser and that takes a little more time. "
That one got me turned on and I jerked off to that. Lol.

carmen_b
03-19-2020, 09:27 AM
I also sort of don't trust anyone right now ( just the fact that I know people are outside their routines and bored is making a low trust level this week ). I'm totally back at it during this whole Zombie Apocalypse thing .

carmen_b
03-19-2020, 06:41 PM
I'm mad at D again.
What kind of MONSTER doesn't offer a helping hand on date #3 or #4 ?!? I'm wondering if he is actually sexually conservative and hiding his true self ?
My other theory is maybe he is seeing someone he likes more and I am the " back up " option ?
One thing I do know is that I won't see him for a bit in case he pulls this bullshit again and I will not have guilt about seeing Mr. NY.

carmen_b
03-19-2020, 06:46 PM
It just occurred to me that sugar dating is probably going to be RIPE in 1-2 weeks . Think of these wealthy dudes stuck with their bratty kids for two weeks of no school ! They are going to be DYING for some fun adult time !

miss.a.p1600
03-19-2020, 07:24 PM
he might just be conservative or self-conscious or whatnot....

because dudes trying to keep backup options will still be out tryin to fuck

carmen_b
03-19-2020, 08:29 PM
^ I think there is just *something* about me he must not like . He has changed his Tinder bio 4-5 times in three weeks. He is asking for me basically ( outdoorsy with a dog ) . I shouldn't spy on it because every time he changes it I get pissed off ( realizing he is clearly in " search " mode ) .
I only had one evening to spare in the last 7 days. I would have given that time to Mr. NY and not him.
I feel like D made the choice to BORE me in three weeks instead of be a fun lover .

carmen_b
03-19-2020, 08:38 PM
Now I feel like I should just stop seeing D .
It's my choice you know. It is my own fault too for spying. Maybe I will do the same thing ( get on there and post updates about how I like a dominant man / alpha type ect ) .

miss.a.p1600
03-21-2020, 07:03 AM
^just went back and read the stuff you said and you may want to follow your gut.

That guy said he just ended a relationship a couple months ago so he’s probably still rebounding from that.

If anything my posts and rants have done is to show how unstable men are after they break up even if they swear up n down they are fine. They’re not. If I were you I’d leave his ass and let him figure it out.

carmen_b
03-21-2020, 09:06 AM
^ Yeah, that's so true. He might be rebounding. But he mentioned problems ( she wanted open relationship when he didn't and she was a smoker ) so to me the problems seemed huge .

I have definitely been on the fence about him. I would just prefer he TRY a litter harder. It's a weird time overall though. I have been sick the last two days and his dad is a high risk ( no immunity from cancer treatments ) so I can't be around him at all anyway even if I'm feeling a little bit sick.

I tried to open up a sexual conversation a week ago ( told him a little about what I like but I didn't receive info about what he liked ) . Like ..... give me something to work with here.

There is definitely *something* there ( I really love his touch ) . I just wish he was more aggressive / taking the masculine role . Maybe I will tell him that is what I like and see what he does. I've been at his house twice .

carmen_b
03-21-2020, 10:27 PM
Guess who just invited themselves to quarantine with me?

^ B , The Aussie. I hope I have the strength to stay away.
He is obviously just trolling for an easy situation and place to stay during the crisis ..........
He hurt me SO bad.

miss.a.p1600
03-21-2020, 11:24 PM
Quarantine and chill.....

At least you saw through the shenanigans

I would tell him to get a COVID-19 and full panel STD test before he can come over. Lol!!! Can’t let the feral penis inside

carmen_b
03-21-2020, 11:43 PM
^ Yeah ...... I realize being in my area lines up with snow boarding season ...... but insulting right ?
I didn't think he was *that* bad of a guy but it is just so gross to me that he thinks I'd even be open to putting him up. It just amazing me that I really did love this person in May - Aug . and he just made no effort to keep us together at all . Like .... one person had a totally different experience than the other person did ? It's just strange.

carmen_b
03-22-2020, 07:14 PM
I hate u D .....

lol

I hinted I’d like the guy to initiate . God, I hate him. How do I end up with these situations ?
At least I’m smart enough this time to admit I’m so bored I want to smack his face instead of kiss it.

carmen_b
03-22-2020, 07:15 PM
There was more sexual excitement and energy in the sink sponge I just squeezed. Lol.

miss.a.p1600
03-22-2020, 09:01 PM
I hate u D .....

lol

I hinted I’d like the guy to initiate . God, I hate him. How do I end up with these situations ?
At least I’m smart enough this time to admit I’m so bored I want to smack his face instead of kiss it.

we need to trade places.

Or trade dudes. Lol!

if this is NBA ladies should be team owners and make trades of players

carmen_b
03-23-2020, 10:10 AM
^ YOU want this turd that can't even offer offer affection despite various hints ?
Please come take him! He is ready with his suitcase pouting with his cat. Lol.

Aw, now I feel bad. He isn't doing well mentally with all this stuff .
I get that but I still feel like you have to keep a good attitude and FIGHT !

carmen_b
03-23-2020, 10:11 AM
Anyway ...... that issue aside ..... I leave to head south in 48 hours.
Mr. NY will be waiting for me. He is leaving today to camp a couple days before hand. :)
I have invited him to my desert quarantine house sit adventure.

lurkingtitties
03-23-2020, 11:21 AM
^^Nice. Good choice.

I started chatting with an MMJ grower who wants to take me out when quarantine is over, so that’s promising.