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Djoser
07-03-2020, 03:34 AM
For chrissakes get the math straight, whichever side you're on. ;D
It seems likely that some are doing a little more double checking than others.
I'm hearing about more younger people in the high risk stripping industry getting it. Two guys in one south Florida club, and one died at age 40 or so, a bouncer so not as likely in horrible shape. Though I've seen a few like that, and some of the guys who rely on size predominantly are clearly overweight so have weaker heart etc. Who knows, but he wasn't some grandpa with a walker. The other guy I know better, a DJ about 40 and in decent shape, damned good for 40. It gave him a very hard time.
Anyway I'm trying to be cool and keep this open. Thanks for your co-operation.
And please stay safe.
Djoser
07-03-2020, 03:39 AM
Hey all-just popping on here to let everyone know, that I had such a severe case of Covid that 2 weeks ago, I was admitted to the hospital for pneumonia...
...So please-take this virus seriously, stay safe, and don’t believe the conservatives and conspiracy theorists who say Covid “is a hoax”/“just a flu”/“you’ll be fine unless you’re really old or have underlying health problems”. They have NO clue about how devastating and downright evil this virus is. I actually thought I was going to die in that hospital, with no loved ones allowed by my side. PLEASE stay safe!!!!!
So glad you made it, thanks for letting us know.
lurkingtitties
07-03-2020, 07:56 AM
Even if covid were only killing senior citizens (this isn’t the case, but for the sake of argument)...why is that ok? We don’t have to care about people over 60? That’s messed up.
miss.a.p1600
07-03-2020, 09:36 AM
Probably cause the sociopathic government don’t want to payout that social security n they figure the elderly gone die soon anyways. https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/03/9602550/elder-abuse-neglect-coronavirus-old-people-dying
But this guy thinks seniors would rather take an L for the team https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick
A good way for seniors (and actually anyone) to protect themselves https://www.today.com/health/how-protect-people-over-60-coronavirus-dr-oz-shares-advice-t175424
sugartaste
07-03-2020, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the support and kind words, everyone! It’s one reason I love this board, even though my dancing days are long gone. I do see that my post went over some people’s heads, I’m not shocked though (though I didn’t think EricStoner, being from the same area as me, would deny the severity of what this illness can do to ANYONE).
I shared my story on my FB page and while 99% of the response was positive, I did get a few comments/PMs from people accusing me of being a “liar”, “fear-mongerer”, “you must work for the MSM” and my personal favorite-“you’re just an actor being paid by George Soros”. Hey, George? I sure could use that money right about now lmao :D:D
eagle2
07-03-2020, 01:26 PM
That is one city in one state.
I just saw on the news, Arizona hospitals are running out of beds in ICU units.
miss.a.p1600
07-03-2020, 03:46 PM
^so is Texas I believe https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-hospital-capacity-coronavirus/
I know here they have overflow facilities. Our dumb ass city “leaders” spent millions on overflow space instead of just doing preventative measures in a timely fashion. Wouldn’t need overflow if the government took it serious back in January/February
xxxGothBarbie
07-03-2020, 04:40 PM
It just enrages me when idiots think they know it all when it comes to something this serious. I'm scared to death for my own health right now bc of ppl like that that are being so careless about it. After reading SugarTastes's post about her experience I got even more worried bc as far as I know I don't have any underlying health issues & I def don't want this thing. I had pnemonia alot as a kid & it was hell & prob did a number on my lungs as it is.
I'm gonna start being aggressive AF the next asshole that doesn't respect my distance & or doesn't wear a mask around me. It's on!
Djoser
07-04-2020, 12:13 AM
“you’re just an actor being paid by George Soros”. Hey, George? I sure could use that money right about now lmao :D:D
Hey George is busy eating babies, and plotting his next disease in that secret commie pinko democrats' lab in China; so they can again infect their own country, India, Italy, Spain, the entire world, and oh also the USA, so they can depose Trump even though the Talking Bush personally Chose him. :D
miss.a.p1600
07-04-2020, 10:10 AM
Some Cities Fining people who don’t abide by mandatory mask orders to protect against spread of coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-city-fine-people-who-dont-cover-faces-outside-coronavirus
https://nypost.com/2020/04/08/california-county-threatens-1k-fine-for-not-wearing-face-masks-in-public/
xxxGothBarbie
07-04-2020, 08:02 PM
Some Cities Fining people who don’t abide by mandatory mask orders to protect against spread of coronavirus
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-city-fine-people-who-dont-cover-faces-outside-coronavirus
https://nypost.com/2020/04/08/california-county-threatens-1k-fine-for-not-wearing-face-masks-in-public/
I think they should be arrested on spot for refusing to w3ar one! Im gonna be wearing 2 masks now instead of 1. Im paranoid.
Djoser
07-04-2020, 08:14 PM
This shit is real. Two more industry people in Key West have it for sure. Testing going on now to see how much it's spread from there.
rickdugan
07-04-2020, 10:59 PM
For chrissakes get the math straight, whichever side you're on. ;D
It seems likely that some are doing a little more double checking than others.
I'm hearing about more younger people in the high risk stripping industry getting it. Two guys in one south Florida club, and one died at age 40 or so, a bouncer so not as likely in horrible shape. Though I've seen a few like that, and some of the guys who rely on size predominantly are clearly overweight so have weaker heart etc. Who knows, but he wasn't some grandpa with a walker. The other guy I know better, a DJ about 40 and in decent shape, damned good for 40. It gave him a very hard time.
Anyway I'm trying to be cool and keep this open. Thanks for your co-operation.
And please stay safe.
Here in FL every single person under 40 who has died from COVID was morbidly obese and ha several other co-morbidities. It is also an extremely small number. Now none of that take away from the tragedy of losing a young life, but rather I simply use this as a point regarding letting fear dominate our thought processes.
eagle2
07-05-2020, 12:17 AM
I think they should be arrested on spot for refusing to w3ar one! Im gonna be wearing 2 masks now instead of 1. Im paranoid.
If you want extra protection, I suggest wearing a face shield over your mask. Something like this:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transparent-Protective-Full-Face-Shield-Film-Adjustable-Shield-Anti-splash-Isolation-Shield-Safety/550174530
moneybags
07-05-2020, 01:06 AM
It just enrages me when idiots think they know it all when it comes to something this serious. I'm scared to death for my own health right now bc of ppl like that that are being so careless about it. After reading SugarTastes's post about her experience I got even more worried bc as far as I know I don't have any underlying health issues & I def don't want this thing. I had pnemonia alot as a kid & it was hell & prob did a number on my lungs as it is.
I'm gonna start being aggressive AF the next asshole that doesn't respect my distance & or doesn't wear a mask around me. It's on!
Right. I was working out and this bitch walks up without a mask and ask for help. I was nice. I should have told her that I don’t talk to people that don’t wear masks. That’s a really good idea.
Adelina
07-05-2020, 07:37 AM
They are counting the number of cases, including presumed positive cases and those who had Corona and recovered from it. The number that is important is the number of deaths FROM Corona. Not WITH Corona. You can die from a heart attack and test positive for Corona at the time of death, and they count it as a Covid death. You can die in a car accident and test positive for Corona, and it's still counted as a Covid death. What about the deaths of those people who are scared to go to the hospital for other illnesses because they are afraid to catch Corona and who die from strokes, heart attacks etc.? What about suicides, depression due to loss of income and social isolation? How many people have been injured and killed due to increase in crime and riots we are witnessing? What about long term implication on the economy and the value of the dollar's purchasing power due to the issues with the supply chain if the economy is stalled? Covid is a distraction. While we are bombarded by the news about Covid cases, the social fabric of our society is disintegrating and is noone noticing that our Union may repeat the fate of the Soviet Union? In this times, we all need to unite our efforts to preserve the health and sanity of our society to avoid seeing our country take a dangerous path towards Balkanization. You've already seen a glimpse of an attempt of a secession in Seattle. Don't think it cannot be repeated in other parts of the country.
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 08:22 AM
https://youtu.be/J6OhuIknM2c
Hope y’all stayed safe during the holiday and avoided large crowds and mask less people without social distancing
Sadly cases are up. And the US is hitting records. Not good records though. We are the country with the most coronavirus cases over 2.7 million now. (Stats found at WHO)
50k+ new cases .... just on Friday.
dpacrkk
07-05-2020, 08:31 AM
What about the deaths of those people who are scared to go to the hospital for other illnesses because they are afraid to catch Corona and who die from strokes, heart attacks etc.? What about suicides, depression due to loss of income and social isolation? How many people have been injured and killed due to increase in crime and riots we are witnessing? What about long term implication on the economy and the value of the dollar's purchasing power due to the issues with the supply chain if the economy is stalled?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
rickdugan
07-05-2020, 08:56 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
I guess it's easier to apply a simplistic label to something you don't want to hear rather than actually process the points.
These are real concerns with real consequences. For example, here in FL, government leaders and major hospital systems are practically begging people to come back to the medical system and not let COVID fears keep them away, but it has been an uphill battle and our numbers are still way down vs. pre-COVID.
Those other issues are real concerns as well. For every action there is a reaction. When we shut down businesses, trap people in their homes and perpetuate a never-ending high level of anxiety, there will be negative consequences. The longer it goes on, the worse those consequences will be, ranging from a variety of economic and social ills to increasing defiance.
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 09:08 AM
The “what if” posts has nothing to do with the topic of the thread (perhaps starting a new thread with those points would be better)
And secondly the poster fails to realize the slow response from the government is the cause of a now unchecked pandemic and disease spreading like wildfire.
Had we had leaders with common sense who react to pandemic health threats appropriately vs. gaslighting Americans by saying “this is all a hoax” “it’s just 1 person from China” “I’m not wearing a mask because....” and dividing the country by unnecessarily politicizing a highly contagious n deadly disease the economy wouldn’t have to shut down.
I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion but it’s a bit irrelevant to the topic which comes across as unnecessarily debative to people who read a thread titled “HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM THE COMING SURGE” because they actually are concerned about their health, their loved ones health, and containing the spread of disease so that the economy can flourish
rickdugan
07-05-2020, 09:35 AM
This thread veered in broader policy discussions hundreds of posts ago, pretty much right out of the gate. I'm not sure that anyone is confused about how to protect oneself: Stay home as much as possible, don't let others visit you, sanitize everything that comes in the door and wear PPE when you absolutely must go out. How a population protects itself with varying personalities and priorities, however, is somewhat more complicated and has occupied the bulk of posts in this thread - understandably so.
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 09:44 AM
States are rolling back or pausing their reopening as cases go up substantially in 3/4 of the country
And an increase in hospitalizations/deaths.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/28/the-great-coronavirus-rollback-california-the-latest-state-to-abandon-reopening-plans-amid-record-coronavirus-surge/#778c7b225bd9
dpacrkk
07-05-2020, 09:48 AM
I guess it's easier to apply a simplistic label to something you don't want to hear rather than actually process the points.
I guess it's easier to claim someone is applying a simplistic label than to realize that, even if correct, moral choices of other actors are irrelevant to the logic of the argument.
rickdugan
07-05-2020, 10:02 AM
I guess it's easier to claim someone is applying a simplistic label than to realize that, even if correct, moral choices of other actors are irrelevant to the logic of the argument.
Please elaborate dpac as this was a bit ambiguous. She made very concrete points about the ills caused by the current COVID hysteria and personally I didn't find her logic to be lacking.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-05-2020, 10:14 AM
States are rolling back or pausing their reopening as cases go up substantially in 3/4 of the country
And an increase in hospitalizations/deaths.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/28/the-great-coronavirus-rollback-california-the-latest-state-to-abandon-reopening-plans-amid-record-coronavirus-surge/#778c7b225bd9
We're starting to feel the effects of those rollbacks here in Florida. I need to renew my CDL and I can't get an appointment until September. It's all appointment only. In addition to that some hospitals are back to cancelling elective surgeries to accommodate the resurgence (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-coronavirus-florida-hospitals-surgeries-20200701-6vrg6wmykvhkbbcs7kkasahvf4-story.html%3foutputType=amp). My aunt needs a cyst removed and may have to wait again. And this is after it being postponed for 60 days. She'll know for sure tomorrow. The waiting has been driving me nuts.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243937167.html
dpacrkk
07-05-2020, 10:24 AM
Please elaborate dpac as this was a bit ambiguous. She made very concrete points about the ills caused by the current COVID hysteria and personally I didn't find her logic to be lacking.
That's not the point. "What about ____" doesn't disprove the original argument and isn't a counterpoint.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-05-2020, 10:26 AM
If you want extra protection, I suggest wearing a face shield over your mask. Something like this:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transparent-Protective-Full-Face-Shield-Film-Adjustable-Shield-Anti-splash-Isolation-Shield-Safety/550174530
My husband's job had a contract with the city to make these with their 3D printers. This was back in the beginning some agencies had a ppe shortage. It turned out that they were effective for some situations and problematic in others. They tend to steam up causing visibility problems. I've worn them out a few times and on my food truck... the stares my God. Check out this bubble suit.
53244
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 10:39 AM
^too bad we can’t go back to when doctors made house calls. I know the uber rich have that option but that should be an affordable option for simple outpatient type procedures. But I’m not a licensed physician so I don’t know if that’s viable
Looks like FL has over 20k+ new cases this weekend. A 17% positivity rate. Anything over 5% is concerning. The median age is 36-37. Miami Beach closes but Clearwater and Daytona beaches still open (and probably packed). These stats are from msnbc
The thing that’s driving me nuts is having to protect not just physically but mentally as well.
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 10:58 AM
My husband's job had a contract with the city to make these with their 3D printers. This was back in the beginning some agencies had a ppe shortage. It turned out that they were effective for some situations and problematic in others. They tend to steam up causing visibility problems. I've worn them out a few times and on my food truck... the stares my God. Check out this bubble suit.
53244
And I’m sure the stares can’t compare to the stares at the people of Walmart
https://youtu.be/wW55OknWcwE
eagle2
07-05-2020, 11:41 AM
They are counting the number of cases, including presumed positive cases and those who had Corona and recovered from it. The number that is important is the number of deaths FROM Corona. Not WITH Corona. You can die from a heart attack and test positive for Corona at the time of death, and they count it as a Covid death. You can die in a car accident and test positive for Corona, and it's still counted as a Covid death. What about the deaths of those people who are scared to go to the hospital for other illnesses because they are afraid to catch Corona and who die from strokes, heart attacks etc.? What about suicides, depression due to loss of income and social isolation? How many people have been injured and killed due to increase in crime and riots we are witnessing? What about long term implication on the economy and the value of the dollar's purchasing power due to the issues with the supply chain if the economy is stalled? Covid is a distraction. While we are bombarded by the news about Covid cases, the social fabric of our society is disintegrating and is noone noticing that our Union may repeat the fate of the Soviet Union? In this times, we all need to unite our efforts to preserve the health and sanity of our society to avoid seeing our country take a dangerous path towards Balkanization. You've already seen a glimpse of an attempt of a secession in Seattle. Don't think it cannot be repeated in other parts of the country.
There isn't any basis for what you're saying. You're just listing hypotheticals without knowing if they're true. I doubt very much that people who die in car accidents are having the cause of death listed as coronavirus. If you're going to make claims like this, please provide links showing evidence supporting your claims. The number of deaths from the virus is more likely to be undercounted than overcounted, since people who die at home from the virus, often aren't included in the totals. Besides the number of deaths attributed to the virus, there has also been a significant increase in the mortality rate in the US, which is further evidence the coronavirus is causing a significant number of deaths. See:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-covid-19-deaths-are-counted1/
There was no overall increase in crime, and many cities saw a decline.
https://www.inquirer.com/crime/coronavirus-crime-rates-baltimore-washington-denver-houston-20200519.html
The number of deaths from coronavirus is over 130,000 so far. I don't even think there were 20 deaths resulting from the protests. What happened in the Soviet Union is very unlikely to happen here, because if people become dissatisfied with our government, we can vote them out of office.
If you're concerned about the health of our country, why wouldn't you be in favor of doing everything we can to prevent coronavirus deaths? What's happening in our country isn't unique. Every other major country in the world is going through the same thing. The only difference is, in most other countries people understand the seriousness of the virus and are willing to make the necessary sacrifices to prevent the virus from spreading and causing even more deaths. We seem to be the only country with this large vocal minority who are opposed to doing anything, regardless of how many people die. That's why the number of cases in most other western countries is plummeting while we're seeing record numbers. Reopening some states before it was safe only resulted in many of them having to shut down again, and prolonging the time until we can safely open back up. In Europe, many countries are slowly starting to reopen, while we're shutting down. It's gotten so bad here that the EU has banned Americans from entering their countries. Our death rate from the virus is higher than in many third world countries.
eagle2
07-05-2020, 11:47 AM
My husband's job had a contract with the city to make these with their 3D printers. This was back in the beginning some agencies had a ppe shortage. It turned out that they were effective for some situations and problematic in others. They tend to steam up causing visibility problems. I've worn them out a few times and on my food truck... the stares my God. Check out this bubble suit.
53244
If I was buying food from a food truck, I would be happy to see the people preparing food wearing face shields. I usually wear one over a mask when I go food shopping. The only time I have a problem with it steaming up is when I open the freezer door to get frozen food. If I wear it over glasses, sometimes my glasses fog up, so I usually don't wear glasses under it.
rickdugan
07-05-2020, 12:57 PM
That's not the point. "What about ____" doesn't disprove the original argument and isn't a counterpoint.
What exactly do you think the original argument was? I didn't see her quote anyone. She made some standalone comments that I agreed with.
miss.a.p1600
07-05-2020, 01:34 PM
That’s interesting eagle. I remember you mentioning the face shield. Do you wear the cloth mask or the disposable mask under the face shield? And if you wear a face shield then would you need a mask per say bc the shield is covering your mouth, nose, and eyes?
I did get a mask with an eye shield although I’m not sure the likelihood of the virus coming through my eyes vs nose/mouth.
Now they have face masks with straw holes? https://www.etsy.com/market/face_mask_straw_hole
eagle2
07-05-2020, 04:19 PM
Yes, I wear a mask under the face shield. The face shield is waterproof, so the virus can't penetrate it, and it covers your entire face, including your eyes. It doesn't cover the bottom, so I wear a mask too if I'm going somewhere where there are many people, like when I go food shopping.
xxxGothBarbie
07-05-2020, 06:15 PM
Ive been wearing sunglasses close to my eyes and 2 surgical masks when i go shopping. Do you also wear masks in the car if your windows need to be down?
eagle2
07-05-2020, 07:52 PM
I usually take off my mask when I'm driving and in the car alone, unless it's a short distance.
laurielegs
07-05-2020, 07:57 PM
Ive been wearing sunglasses close to my eyes and 2 surgical masks when i go shopping. Do you also wear masks in the car if your windows need to be down?
I don't. From what I understand it's not necessary. I only wear mine if I'm going to be within 6 feet of another person.
I take mine off and carry it if I'm outdoors walking and there are no people around, putting it back on whenever I approach someone.
eagle2
07-05-2020, 08:04 PM
41 year old actor Nick Cordero died after months-long battle with COVID-19 complications. I don't know if he had any other medical conditions, but he wasn't overweight. I also read that he had to get one of his legs amputated.
Golden_Rule
07-05-2020, 09:18 PM
I think the areas with smaller cases are better off in reopening.
I’ve heard Costco was enforcing masks for both employees AND members. And I noticed last time I was at target they handed face masks to people coming inside and was like “we’d like you to wear this”.
It’s sad to see people dying because they are killing security who enforce government rules.
Some strip-clubs in PA have reopened. You have to wear a mask to enter the club, and when walking about, but when seated at a table or at the bar you do not. The dancers are when dancing and walking about. The LD's and CC's are open. I can't see how that isn't going to cause a bump in new infections. {shrugging shoulders}
Meanwhile, this dope was out in the Phillie area last night with an old friend and hit a few clubs. I didn't partake of anything but bar side tipping, but I won't say I wasn't tempted. LOL
It was so boring, sheltering in place as long as I had, that when one of the guys who use to go to the parties I was involved with rang up and asked about a club crawl I couldn't say no.
Golden_Rule
07-05-2020, 09:23 PM
Does anyone else find it odd that the world did NOT shut down for the Spanish Flu ? Or AIDS ? ( well, except for gay baths ) Or H1N1 ? Or Ebola ? Or the Hong Kong Flu ? The death rate for the Hong Kong Flu was comparable to Covid. I got it and survived although I was 11 at the time.
ES, the world of 1918 was very different from today. You can't compare them. They wouldn't have had the same policies there as now.
And HIV-AIDS was primarily a sexually and IV drug use involved disease and they did quite a bit to try and educate folks to shut that down. So, comparing it as apples to apples, they did attempt to "shut the world down".
miss.a.p1600
07-06-2020, 01:43 AM
41 year old actor Nick Cordero died after months-long battle with COVID-19 complications. I don't know if he had any other medical conditions, but he wasn't overweight. I also read that he had to get one of his legs amputated.
I read about that too.
That had to be hard for him and his family.
miss.a.p1600
07-06-2020, 01:57 AM
The White House doesn’t regret pushing states to reopen despite spike in cases https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/505607-mnuchin-white-house-absolutely-does-not-regret-pushing-states-to-reopen
Texas governor regrets reopening ... bars https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/26/greg-abbott-texas-bars-regret/
Warnings about reopening too soon
https://www.businessinsider.com/lessons-1918-flu-reopening-coronavirus-pandemic-too-soon-2020-4
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fauci-serious-consequences-united-states-reopening-warning
miss.a.p1600
07-06-2020, 02:16 AM
I think they should be arrested on spot for refusing to w3ar one! Im gonna be wearing 2 masks now instead of 1. Im paranoid.
That would be hella entertaining to see because it’s disturbing to see people acting like adult babies having meltdowns in public because they’ve been asked to wear a mask or leave.
If they were threatened with being arrested then going to jail - they’d mask up real quick because not only is the threat of coronavirus greater in jail but so is the threat of jail/prison rape
Of course people would complain that’s too harsh of a punishment
Actually some places are threatening jail or fines. https://www.times-standard.com/2020/04/22/district-attorney-fines-for-not-wearing-a-mask-can-be-as-high-as-1000-or-jail-time/
I guess a person could end up in jail by default if they don’t wear a mask, get reported, get fined, don’t pay the fine, have a warrant for their arrest, then get arrested at some later date.
A good lawyer will probably get them out fast and they won’t be in there longer than 90 days according to article above
I do think if a person refused to quarantine themselves, goes in public building after they’ve been diagnosed then they should be arrested mask or not. Or if a person refuses to wear a mask then they should be tested on the spot and if the have coronavirus then they should be arrested.
Unfortunately negative reinforcement (fining people) would need to be used since people don’t follow voluntary recommendations to prevent a surge in cases
Texas governor believes no one should be sent to jail for refusing to wear face mask https://www.foxnews.com/media/greg-abbott-coronavirus-restrictions-texas-masks
Eric Stoner
07-06-2020, 08:46 AM
Where did you get your “data”?
Because young healthy people are not exempt from getting gravely ill/dying from coronavirus
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184291/coronavirus-covid-19-young-people-sick-vulnerable-affected-severe-cases
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e8ebea0c5b6b371812bf71a
That's true. I got a little sloppy BUT if you are young and healthy your chances of getting VERY sick ( meaning hospitalized ) or dying from Covid are very,very low. It can happen and has happened. It's certainly not something that anyone wants to have.
Eric Stoner
07-06-2020, 08:49 AM
Hospitalizations quadrupled for the entire state of Texas. I'm not sure of how much of this was Houston. Please don't give out medical advice when you don't know if it's true. Young, healthy people have died from the virus.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/04/13/covid-young-people
I'm glad you agree we should be wearing masks and social distancing.
I never said otherwise. I always thought we should take this pandemic seriously and protect those MOST vulnerable i.e. the elderly and infirm.
eagle2
07-06-2020, 12:35 PM
That's true. I got a little sloppy BUT if you are young and healthy your chances of getting VERY sick ( meaning hospitalized ) or dying from Covid are very,very low. It can happen and has happened. It's certainly not something that anyone wants to have.
Again, please don't give out medical advice that you don't know if it's true. I've seen many cases of young people becoming very sick after catching the virus, including one member of this forum. Please read what sugartaste went through after she caught it:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?228014-As-states-reopen-here%92s-how-you-protect-yourself-from-the-coming-surge&p=3178760&viewfull=1#post3178760
I also recently read of a Florida woman whose daughter caught virus. She gave her daughter hydroxychloroquine and it made it worse. Her daughter ended up dying.
rickdugan
07-06-2020, 01:52 PM
Again, please don't give out medical advice that you don't know if it's true. I've seen many cases of young people becoming very sick after catching the virus, including one member of this forum. Please read what sugartaste went through after she caught it:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?228014-As-states-reopen-here%92s-how-you-protect-yourself-from-the-coming-surge&p=3178760&viewfull=1#post3178760
I also recently read of a Florida woman whose daughter caught virus. She gave her daughter hydroxychloroquine and it made it worse. Her daughter ended up dying.
Since when did cold hard statistics become medical advice? I didn't see Eric handing out prescriptions or giving treatment recommendations. Did I miss something?
We can obsess over dramatic examples of "COVID Gone Bad" all we want, but the numbers are what they are and it is important for us to understand them. They allow us to make rational decisions about realistic risks regarding things like sending our kids back to school or going back to work. Now that we know that this thing is going to be with us for the foreseeable future, understanding the relative risks to different demographics is a vital element in our decision making processes, especially since not everyone we deal with will behave the way we want them to no matter how many forums we complain on.
Golden_Rule
07-06-2020, 04:32 PM
Again, please don't give out medical advice that you don't know if it's true. I've seen many cases of young people becoming very sick after catching the virus, including one member of this forum. Please read what sugartaste went through after she caught it:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?228014-As-states-reopen-here%92s-how-you-protect-yourself-from-the-coming-surge&p=3178760&viewfull=1#post3178760
I also recently read of a Florida woman whose daughter caught virus. She gave her daughter hydroxychloroquine and it made it worse. Her daughter ended up dying.
Reducing it to simply youth might be a mistake. ES is right, youth is a factor in having a lesser chance of dangerous illness from exposure to C-19. However, one must factor in many other factors, including but not limited to obesity, diabetes, hypertension, COPD issues, etc, etc. All these can have an effect, that if present, negates being youthful and passing underneath C-19's radar.
miss.a.p1600
07-07-2020, 06:11 AM
Shop and eat only at places that enforce mask orders is another way to protect yourself (if you go out a lot)
Costco is one.
I know a few weeks ago Target was handing out masks on entry and the door person was like “we’d like you to wear this”
Higher end grocery stores like Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s
Any other places?
miss.a.p1600
07-07-2020, 06:17 AM
Here are the facts about young people becoming seriously ill/dying from coronavirus
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/19/coronavirus-illnesses-can-serious-young-adults-cdc-report/2874271001/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/health/young-people-dying-coronavirus-sanjay-gupta/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/who-says-more-and-more-young-people-are-dying-from-the-coronavirus.html
https://www.livescience.com/genes-for-covid19-coronavirus-severity.html
Young adults spreading coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/young-adults-who-think-they-are-invincible-increasingly-infected-by-coronavirus-newsom-says/ar-BB16ppEo
Young people are not invincible
The findings come as the World Health Organization (WHO) warned against complacency, after media reports showed young people in many countries ignoring the advice to practise social distancing.
“Although older people are hardest hit, younger people are not spared,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a news conference. “I have a message for young people: you are not invincible, this virus could put you in hospital for weeks or even kill you.”
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/coronavirus-young-people-hospitalized-covid-19-chart/