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Feminineaddiction
08-03-2020, 11:54 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_police_officers_convicted_of_mur der
Feminineaddiction
08-03-2020, 11:55 AM
I dont understand why that link wasnt included.
miss.a.p1600
08-03-2020, 12:05 PM
That's how it used to be. I'm sorry, but it is. Now, SO MANY PEOPLE are pissed. They don't do anything about this they are going to lose their jobs. As for Breonna wait and see, you might just get a ray of light. I hate to say this to you, but look at all the white faces that are in there protesting for her (And George). Things are changing.
I know, i was one of them. Have some faith.
Unless you carry around a Crystal Ball, or some Tarot Cards, you don't know what's in store.
I could be wrong be I recall reading somewhere that those officers might get off because the victims boyfriend allegedly shot at police first.
Nevermind the fact that police were at the wrong house to begin with.
*Ill have to do more research before I can elaborate more
miss.a.p1600
08-03-2020, 12:11 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_police_officers_convicted_of_mur der
21 compared to the number of actual murders committed by law enforcement is a very very small number but I suppose it’s a start
Raziel
08-03-2020, 01:19 PM
I could be wrong be I recall reading somewhere that those officers might get off because the victims boyfriend allegedly shot at police first.
Nevermind the fact that police were at the wrong house to begin with.
*Ill have to do more research before I can elaborate more
That boyfriend had no idea it was even the cops. And she was SLEEPING. If that's the case, why not shoot the Boyfriend. Why the SLEEPING WOMAN. What harm is she? She's ASLEEP!
This is all senseless. If they don't do something about this, someone's going to lose their job.
Raziel
08-03-2020, 01:29 PM
They come in in plain clothes and start shooting,Pump nine bullets into my girlfriend? Hell, i'd shoot at 'em too!!!
Idiotic cops.
miss.a.p1600
08-03-2020, 07:05 PM
^idiots is right!
The most rookie mistake is going to the wrong house. Should have at least discreetly scouted the area first or something.
I recall reading a similar situation where police went to a house - I think it was wrong house, threw a grenade type weapon inside the house, grenade landed in baby crib and severely injured the baby.
Most the times they do their job properly by Sometimes They be doing some real fucked up shit
Raziel
08-03-2020, 11:12 PM
Yeah, there are good cops and we need them. They always show up to help. But either these morons or the Murderers disguised as cops need to GO.
MrDuckie
08-04-2020, 07:18 PM
Aurora, Colorado seems like a pretty scary place. Last year police killed a black man and then took pictures to cheer up a fellow policeman. A couple weeks ago at a BLM assembly someone drives their car through the crowd and a demonstrator got shot. Now we read that the police pulled a car over with the same license number as a motorcycle that was stolen... then laid the kids out on the ground, handcuffed, while they did their investigations... of course the people were black.
How much more outrageous would that have been if it had been a local white family? (I'm being faceious.)
Resist.
eagle2
08-07-2020, 06:13 PM
Oprah Winfrey had 26 billboards put up in Louisville, demanding arrests in Breonna Taylor's killing.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/08/07/900192570/oprah-winfrey-commissions-26-billboards-demanding-arrests-in-breonna-taylors-kil
miss.a.p1600
08-07-2020, 06:19 PM
^im surprised but good to see celebs using their platform to bring forth justice
Don Lemon called for celebrities to do something to obtain positive change during these times. And he got heckled by Dave Chappelle of all people.
Anyways I read somewhere that Oprah gave up her magazine cover for the first time ever to feature Breonna
miss.a.p1600
08-07-2020, 06:20 PM
I’ve been reading the protests going on in Portland. Seems like it got pretty bad there.
Raziel
08-07-2020, 07:03 PM
Yeah, the Gestapo was active there.
Djoser
08-08-2020, 11:53 PM
Holy shit now this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=0wA2PSNT8_4&feature=emb_logo
miss.a.p1600
08-09-2020, 03:31 AM
^might as well just arrest yourself before police pull up
Even then they probably be ready to shoot n kill on sight
That actually reminds me of the guy who was pulled over by police. He told police he has a gun in his car and when he reached for his ID/registration they thought he was reaching for his gun so the shot (n killed) him ..... right in front of his wife n kids.
His wife caught a lot of criticism for live streaming the incident instead of calling 911. Well what else was she supposed to do? Police can be shady when it comes to releasing body cam or dash cam footage
Raziel
08-09-2020, 04:00 AM
Yeah, we gotta stop this shit. They think that badge makes them gods, it doesn't. I understand that i have white privilege now in a way i never have before. Cops stop me and i'm not even slightly worried, i wonder, now, what it's like for my Black brothers and sisters. There has to be something we can do about the Gestapo.
miss.a.p1600
08-09-2020, 08:11 AM
^I could be wrong but I think majority of the time white privilege gets thrown out the window when attempting to help non-whites during rogue law enforcement encounters
white privilege doesnt make white people immune to police brutality
I do think white privilege means less likely to be racially profiled, and less likely law enforcement will provoke altercations But when it comes to protests n rogue le encounters .....white privilege is limited.
unfortunately if you dealing with unsavory law enforcement trying to help non-whites....... you’ll get treated like one
miss.a.p1600
08-09-2020, 08:33 AM
Speaking of law enforcement and white privilege
I inadvertently dated a guy who I discovered was a narcissist and white supremacist. (I quickly ditched him once his true colors came out)
This idiot told me about how he got sloppy drunk, drove, then got pulled over by police. He was pissed cause he got a DUI and ended up spending a good bit of time in jail.
He was so pissed about the fact he had to stay in jail and erroneously thought that only certain types of people got pulled over and stayed in jail....if ya know what I mean.
Nevermind the fact he was forgetting that money and class also factor in. He apparently didn’t want to admit that he simply didn’t have the bankroll to pay his way out of trouble. he learned his racial privilege could only take him so far even during non-rogue law enforcement encounters
Raziel
08-09-2020, 10:49 AM
^I could be wrong but I think majority of the time white privilege gets thrown out the window when attempting to help non-whites during rogue law enforcement encounters
white privilege doesnt make white people immune to police brutality
I do think white privilege means less likely to be racially profiled, and less likely law enforcement will provoke altercations But when it comes to protests n rogue le encounters .....white privilege is limited.
unfortunately if you dealing with unsavory law enforcement trying to help non-whites....... you’ll get treated like one
Yeah that can be true. But i don't get beat. And the times I've been arrested, and there WERE a few, I just got taken to the car. No problems or issues were there. I just assumed it was like that for everyone. Apparently, i was wrong.
Speaking of law enforcement and white privilege
I inadvertently dated a guy who I discovered was a narcissist and white supremacist. (I quickly ditched him once his true colors came out)
This idiot told me about how he got sloppy drunk, drove, then got pulled over by police. He was pissed cause he got a DUI and ended up spending a good bit of time in jail.
He was so pissed about the fact he had to stay in jail and erroneously thought that only certain types of people got pulled over and stayed in jail....if ya know what I mean.
Nevermind the fact he was forgetting that money and class also factor in. He apparently didn’t want to admit that he simply didn’t have the bankroll to pay his way out of trouble. he learned his racial privilege could only take him so far even during non-rogue law enforcement encounters
Well, he shouldn't have been piss drunk while driving. It's like that for most white supremacists, they don't know the laws apply to them as well. But doing that, you can KILL a family of four. Call a fucking CAB.
Anyway, i'm glad you ditched that guy. If he's a White supremacist, he was no good.
It's OK to be White, but it's NOT ok to be White at anybody elses expense. We all have things that are good about us. Diversity is strength. We can all learn from each other. I firmly believe this.
Raziel
08-09-2020, 10:53 AM
By the way, i have been arrested, but i'm no bank robber. I'm just a guy who forgot his court dates for traffic tickets a couple of times. Please don't judge, i don't do that anymore.
R-209
08-09-2020, 06:03 PM
Here's my story of white privilege and police:
It was a beautiful, sunny day. I am a white male, late 30's to early 40's. I am of an unassuming stature and neatly dressed for an important doctor appointment. I had plenty of time to kill so I decided to go for a walk. It's a good part of the city, featuring an upscale mall and lots of restaurants.
I was preoccupied with my phone as I walked, not really paying attention to my surroundings. Just as I passed the Pink Elephant car wash, two police cars screeched to a halt right in front of me. I quickly turned to get out of their way.
Suddenly, one called out "sir!" I looked behind me and there was no one there. Again they called out "sir!" and I looked to them. They were talking to me! My mind was racing, trying to think of what possible reason they could have for stopping me while I was on foot.
One officer hurried toward me, but she was clearly concerned, not confrontational. "Sir, are you alright?" she asked. Dumbfounded, I replied that I was. She explained that they were responding to a 911 ping from my exact location. I said I had just been on Twitter and was in no danger. "Are you sure?" she asked again, before returning to the cruiser.
She could not possibly have been nicer. It was so bizarre. I continued on my way to my appointment, where I relayed the story to my doctor, who is a person of color.
"You're lucky you are a white man," she said.
Raziel
08-11-2020, 03:19 PM
Dude, it's a REAL drag sitting in the back of that cop car, Mind Numbing. I wanted to be ANYWHERE else. Send me to Hell! Just not in this fucking car. I was NOT thrilled.
Raziel
09-04-2020, 12:04 PM
How about Trump sending SOLDIERS into those neighborhoods. He's talking about it...
rickdugan
09-05-2020, 07:22 PM
^ The people who live in those neighborhoods under siege would probably welcome it. These aren't simple protests anymore. The violence, looting and vandalism are getting out of control.
Djoser
09-07-2020, 02:48 AM
I'm seriously appalled at the hatred and senseless destruction from both ends.
I see people posting on Facebook how they hope there's a civil war so they can legally hunt liberals. And I've seen the videos of senseless destruction, old men getting their jaw broken and worse, for trying to stop people burning down their life's work. Trucks full of guys spraying protestors, a guy getting murdered for a fucking hat, on and on.
Just goes to prove that we are primates above all. Moon rockets notwithstanding.
Raziel
09-08-2020, 05:53 PM
I'm seriously appalled at the hatred and senseless destruction from both ends.
I see people posting on Facebook how they hope there's a civil war so they can legally hunt liberals.
Alt-right pipe dream. Never going to happen. First off, how do you know whose a Liberal? You don't.
Raziel
09-09-2020, 05:39 PM
All i have to do is say "YAY TRUMP," and they're never the wiser. These people aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 10:36 AM
Yeah, the Gestapo was active there.
I'm sorry but WHO is the "Gestapo" in Portland ? I'm sorry but I don't think it is the Portland Police. It's not the Federal agents who are/were simply preventing Federal buildings and facilities from being attacked and burned. From their behavior the ones acting like "Brownshirts" are the Antifa and BLM people. Rioting , violence and property destruction are NOT peaceful protests.
And what exactly are they protesting in Portland of all places ? One of the most liberal, progressive cities in this country. Ridiculously so imho. Or Seattle ? Or NYC for that matter.
If you listen to what some of those folks are saying they are arguing for total anarchy. I'd like to ship a few hundred of them to a deserted island with some tools and a few months of supplies and let them see how much fun real anarchy can be. Either they'd kill each other (dog eat dog; survival of the fittest ) or they'd have to establish order and govern themselves according to laws and rules that would have to be enforced. They could even get a producer and make a reality TV show - "Anarchy Island" and then split the profits. I think the real fun will be to see who argues for what split. Will the Black participants argue that they are entitled to greater shares ? Given their public rhetoric ( on the rare occasions when they actually articulate anything intelligible ) they almost undoubtedly will. Will the people who worked harder ; built better shelter ; hunted and gathered more food etc. argue for greater shares. Heaven forbid ! That would be CAPITALISM ! Eeek ! Can't have any of that. Will they be entitled to protect the shelters they built ; decide who gets to come in or who must leave ; decide with whom to share the food they gathered while others sat on their ass and meditated on the beach ? OMG ! Private property ! Fruit of one's own labor ! Horrors !
kamiliam
09-10-2020, 10:50 AM
You need to do some research big city nw police departments and their relationship with the citizens. Most do not live anywhere close to the cities they work in and hold little of the same beliefs. I say this as someone born and raised in the nw.
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 10:58 AM
You need to do some research big city nw police departments and their relationship with the citizens. Most do not live anywhere close to the cities they work in and hold little of the same beliefs. I say this as someone born and raised in the nw.
That may be true BUT I am going by the tremendous restraint shown by the Portland P.D. ; the failure ( apparently deliberate ) to arrest and prosecute vandals ; the violent and other lawbreakers .
So what if they have "different beliefs" ? I am going by their policies and procedures as evidenced by their behavior during some very vicious and mindless RIOTING !
Unless you are saying that the Portland Police are deliberately holding back and letting Portland be trashed and burned because they don't care what happens to Portland ? Or they have a political motive hoping for a major backlash against anarchy and its liberal enablers ? Pretty shrewd. Even Machiavellian . Didn't know the Portland police were that clever.
kamiliam
09-10-2020, 11:07 AM
Well to your last point, yes there are many in the union and many in the force who believe just that.
If you support state rights you support that state to determine their political process. The actual left has a voice in this region and they often clash with local liberal politicians. The left and the liberals are politically very different but the culture here is to have that right. The police in Portland/Seattle have been fighting with both the government and the protesters for YEARS
Raziel
09-10-2020, 11:18 AM
I'm sorry but WHO is the "Gestapo" in Portland ? I'm sorry but I don't think it is the Portland Police. It's not the Federal agents who are/were simply preventing Federal buildings and facilities from being attacked and burned. From their behavior the ones acting like "Brownshirts" are the Antifa and BLM people. Rioting , violence and property destruction are NOT peaceful protests.
And what exactly are they protesting in Portland of all places ? One of the most liberal, progressive cities in this country. Ridiculously so imho. Or Seattle ? Or NYC for that matter.
If you listen to what some of those folks are saying they are arguing for total anarchy. I'd like to ship a few hundred of them to a deserted island with a few months of supplies and let them see how much fun real anarchy can be. Either they'd kill each other (dog eat dog; survival of the fittest ) or they'd have to establish order and govern themselves according to laws and rules that would have to be enforced. They could even get a producer and make a reality TV show - "Anarchy Island" and then split the profits. I think the real fun will be to see who argues for what split. Will the Black participants argue that they are entitled to greater shares ? Given their public rhetoric ( on the rare occasions when they actually articulate anything intelligible ) they almost undoubtedly will. Will the people who worked harder ; built better shelter ; hunted and gathered more food etc. argue for greater shares. Heaven forbid ! That would be CAPITALISM ! Eeek ! Can't have any of that. Will they be entitled to protect the shelters they built ; decide who gets to come in or who must leave ; decide with whom to share the food they gathered while others sat on their ass and meditated on the beach ? OMG ! Private property ! Fruit of one's own labor ! Horrors !
It was those Assholes that came INTO Portland and started fucking with the protesters. I'm not talking about anybody FROM Portland. Trump sent in dudes in unmarked cars, no Badge, no name tags, to arrest everybody. That's the Gestapo.
I didn't say anything about the Portland Police, perhaps i wasn't clear enough.
Oh, and said Assholes CAUSED the rioting. Exactly what Trump wanted.
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 11:29 AM
It was those Assholes that came INTO Portland and started fucking with the protesters. I'm not talking about anybody FROM Portland. Trump sent in dudes in unmarked cars to arrest everybody. That's the Gestapo.
I didn't say anything about the Portland Police, perhaps i wasn't clear enough.
Facts are stubborn little things. Trump sent in Federal law enforcement agents to protect the Federal Courthouse and other Federal facilities as was both his right and his RESPONSIBILITY !
"Arrest everybody " ???? Are you serious ? Because they did no such thing. Peaceful protesters were left alone and SOME rioters were arrested and charged with Federal crimes. Trump acted because the Portland Police were unwilling and/or unable to keep order and protect Federal property.
Nobody got "disappeared" like in China or Venezuela . They were arrested and will get their day in court. What's wrong with that ?
What about all the protesters "fucking with " all the just plain folks who are trying to go to work and just live their lives ? Burning down their businesses ; destroying their jobs and livelihoods ? How does that help anybody ? How is it not incredibly counterproductive ? Do you support burning down the Federal Courthouse ? If not, how would YOU prevent it ?
Just ask the "protesters " nicely ? Or join in and burn down the place ?
Raziel
09-10-2020, 11:34 AM
Uh, YES THEY DID. The Arrested didn't STAY arrested but they WERE arrested.
And i would prevent it by just protecting the courthouse, nothing more. Not running around grabbing people.
Raziel
09-10-2020, 11:37 AM
And why didn't they have Badges and name tags? Do we really know WHO these people were? Unmarked cars?
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 11:40 AM
Uh, YES THEY DID. The Arrested didn't STAY arrested but they WERE arrested.
And i would prevent it by just protecting the courthouse, nothing more. Not running around grabbing people.
When someone is trying to burn down a building the BEST way to protect it is to arrest the potential arsonist.
I know there were arrests. Never said there weren't . The issue is WHO got arrested for WHAT.
Sorry but anyone peacefully protesting was NOT arrested. Rioters were. Unless you think that rioting is peaceful protesting so long as your heart is pure and your cause is just ?
Raziel
09-10-2020, 11:41 AM
Peaceful Protesters were arrested. Did you not see the footage. One guy got shot in the head with a rubber bullet, he's STILL in the Hospital.
Raziel
09-10-2020, 11:43 AM
And i'm still waiting to hear from you about the lack of Badges and name tags, and the unmarked cars. That's VERY unusual for the United States.
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 11:45 AM
And why didn't they have Badges and name tags? Do we really know WHO these people were? Unmarked cars?
Did they use black helicopters too. Some of the agents removed their name tags to protect themselves and their families from retaliation. I think they were WRONG to do that and I do NOT support it.
If the Portland Police and other Oregon law enforcement agencies had done their jobs in the first place then Trump would not have had to send in Federal agents. Wouldn't make sense to send them in AFTER the Federal Courthouse had been looted and burned , now would it ?
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 11:46 AM
Peaceful Protesters were arrested. Did you not see the footage. One guy got shot in the head with a rubber bullet, he's STILL in the Hospital.
I did not see peaceful protesters being arrested.
rickdugan
09-10-2020, 11:47 AM
You need to do some research big city nw police departments and their relationship with the citizens. Most do not live anywhere close to the cities they work in and hold little of the same beliefs. I say this as someone born and raised in the nw.
Kam, I actually agree 100% with this. We have strayed way too far away from community policing. Police are becoming too militarized, with tactical gear and even hiding their faces so that they can't be identified.
But with that said, the burning and looting simply cannot be tolerated. Worse though, all too often these geniuses are hurting the fellow minorities who own many of the businesses that they are destroying.
Eric Stoner
09-10-2020, 11:52 AM
And i'm still waiting to hear from you about the lack of Badges and name tags, and the unmarked cars. That's VERY unusual for the United States.
So what ? Who cares ? The arrested people got due process and were not disappeared. Forms got filled out with the names of the arresting agents and the agencies they work for so who cares about the lack of name tags and badges ? The only practical effect was to protect the agents , their homes and families. Or so they thought.
There is ZERO evidence Trump ordered the agents to conceal their identities in any way. I'm sure he sympathizes with why they did it but the agents did that themselves. I too sympathize with them but I still think they shouldn't have done it. BUT it's not like there were no records of who did what. There are. The Feds are great at creating voluminous records.
Raziel
09-10-2020, 12:07 PM
I did not see peaceful protesters being arrested.
I did.
Raziel
09-10-2020, 12:08 PM
So what ? Who cares ? The arrested people got due process and were not disappeared. Forms got filled out with the names of the arresting agents and the agencies they work for so who cares about the lack of name tags and badges ? The only practical effect was to protect the agents , their homes and families. Or so they thought.
There is ZERO evidence Trump ordered the agents to conceal their identities in any way. I'm sure he sympathizes with why they did it but the agents did that themselves. I too sympathize with them but I still think they shouldn't have done it. BUT it's not like there were no records of who did what. There are. The Feds are great at creating voluminous records.
No name tags and Badges is highly unusual for such and operation. Who knows who these fucking people were?
Djoser
09-10-2020, 05:25 PM
Alt-right pipe dream. Never going to happen. First off, how do you know whose a Liberal? You don't.
It has already happened.
Eric Stoner
09-11-2020, 07:24 AM
I did.
Let me see it. Please post a link to the footage showing peaceful protesters being arrested.
Btw, the mainstream media has been using a very broad definition of "peaceful". So long as you are not actually shooting anybody, that's peaceful. Throwing rocks and bricks ; arson ; looting ; trashing cars = all peaceful activities.
Eric Stoner
09-11-2020, 07:26 AM
It has already happened.
I'm sorry but what are you referring to ? Please , try to limit it to current events and recent unrest.
Raziel
09-11-2020, 07:55 AM
Let me see it. Please post a link to the footage showing peaceful protesters being arrested.
Btw, the mainstream media has been using a very broad definition of "peaceful". So long as you are not actually shooting anybody, that's peaceful. Throwing rocks and bricks ; arson ; looting ; trashing cars = all peaceful activities.
I don't even know if it's online, i saw it on the news. I can check, though. I saw a Girl get arrested and she wasn't doing anything.
While i'm writing (Which these days i do a lot of, to my publisher's delight, but not mine), i keep the news on.
Raziel
09-11-2020, 08:04 AM
It doesn't bother you at all that they had no name tags, badges, and were in unmarked cars? That's shit the Nazi's did.
Eric Stoner
09-11-2020, 08:56 AM
It doesn't bother you at all that they had no name tags, badges, and were in unmarked cars? That's shit the Nazi's did.
Actually the Nazis, after they came to power, were very open and obvious about arrests and the like. Part of the fear factor they liked to employ.
I already posted that I thought their attempts to conceal their identities were wrong.
The unmarked cars do not bother me. The rioters were arrested by Federal agents ; they were processed properly ; they were arraigned before Federal Magistrates; most were released on bail and there are voluminous records involving their arrest and prosecution.
I'm sorry but I think it is a very sloppy argument to equate Federal law enforcement with Nazis. About as valid as comparing Trump to Hitler.
There was ONE (1) arrest the Feds made that the media made a lot of hay out of. It was of a Navy veteran who was "protesting".
Afaic it is not clear whether or not he was in any way violent or destructive. Possibly it was a mistake or he may have been at the wrong place , at the wrong time with the WRONG group of people. If truly peaceful protesters hang out with the violent and destructive and make no effort to separate themselves from the nihilists or try to keep their demonstrations truly peaceful then afaic they have little cause for complaint if some of them get swept up and are arrested. You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.